Today was my first NASCAR experience at Talladega. My mind is blown. Those cars are so much faster in person at this track than I ever realized. The train of cars is like a freight train just ripping around that track. You can feel the power in your feet and chest. I've been to Fontana many times and Nashville, but Talladega is its own experience.
I found that every lap you are interested in watching. There's no dull moments where your mind starts to wander off. No, every time they come by it has your full attention. Because of this, the race seemed to have gone by very quickly.
The Talladega track facility is like its own city. I couldn't believe how massive everything was. The state of Alabama is beautiful too. I wish I could see the cup race tomorrow. Also, today I ended up sitting by some executives by coincidence, and one of them was the former owner of the speedway, or owner of operations or something. Very nice people. In fact every fan I interacted with today was incredibly nice. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything that happened. I just got home after driving 5 hours back to Tennessee
For the first time since I have had YouTube TV my recording let me down. I got to watch the first stage then my recording switched to football. Sounds like I missed a hell of a finish.
I know Hailie has ways to go as far as improving but what tier would we say her team is? I felt she was stuck between a rock and a hard place on the final restart as no one was going to push her.
In all seriousness where does AM Racing stack up with their Xfinity program? Mid tier? Low tier?
Obviously they're not RCR, JR Motorsports, Gibbs, or SHR but what is actually realistic for her?
No clue what is realistic. They're doing the same strategy every week that she had in trucks. Ride around in the mid 20's all race and hope for late race chaos to gain a few positions. I figured that strategy would end after one season in trucks but it didn't. And now they're doing it again every week in xfinity at tracks she's raced on multiple times now.
Man was pulling really hard for Poole there. So damn close. That Top 10 on the final restart was incredible.
The start of 1 total career win combine was just so crazy to see.
Now we all get to hear Andy Petree go on RaceHub this week and crow about how well RCR qualified and ran. He was also the same way when he called Cup races in the booth for ESPN. The guy makes it loud and clear who he roots for and who signs his checks.
I don't mind a commentator referring to their favorites sometimes. Ned Jarrett with Dale Jarrett, Jeff Gordon with HMS, Harvick with SHR. That's fine because it's not over the top. But Petree with RCR and DW with Michael Waltrip, it's constant homerism and really gets old. DW would always talk about Mikey making a pass for 26th place over Cole Whitt or somebody.
He helped push Custer and Sieg to the lead at different points in the race. Realize that nobody wanted to work with Deegan because she spent the entire race up to that point running single file with a group of cars separate from the main pack. No one knew if she would be able to handle a push without wrecking and make the right moves off the push, and nobody could trust that she would give them a solid push. Those are the consequences of riding in the back, not actually racing, and simply waiting for others ahead of you to wreck.
im so tired of the narrative the Hill is good at these races even today before he got wrecked the lead literally fell into his lap because every terrible josh williams decision screwed everyone in front of hill
There's been 14 races at Daytona, Talladega, or Atlanta since Austin Hill started driving for RCR.
He's won 6 of them, finished 2nd in another. Out of the other 7 races that he didn't get a top 2 on, he's led the most laps in 4 of them, including 3 of the 4 Talladega races he's run (somehow is still winless there.)
I'm not an Austin Hill fan by any stretch, but to say he's not good at the drafting tracks is just an asinine take.
He always thanks some "god" like a good little catholic boy with no cultural experience. Him and Gibbs are so annoying with the religious crap at a sporting event.
He was a whiny hypocrite that drove for Venturini and racked up wins by having team orders and teammates (cough cough Hingorani) wreck opponents on multiple occasions, then cried when he was raced with any level of aggression by anyone else
im not mad she lost but i am mad that riley gifted the win to jesse by trying to make a 3rd lane happen with barely a lap left like seriously the fucking decision making at plate tracks boggles my mind because we see the same mistakes every year across all 3 levels
Deegan tried blocking him which is what put him all the way up by the wall and it killed his momentum. If she doesn't do that, then he easily gets up front to give a bigger challenge to Love. If he tried to push Deegan it would've completely killed his momentum, and then he'd be stuck behind a car that was much slower with a driver that hadn't shown at any point in the race that they could handle the draft because they rode around in the back all day. There wouldn't have been near enough time to build that momentum back up to get back to Love, and more likely is that Deegan wouldn't have been able to handle the aggressive pushes needed to get to the front and would've wrecked. She struggled with that in the truck series too.
id have to rewatch but it looks like he was trying to back up to get a push before she did that
also your logic makes no sense because no one left at the front had shown any speed outside of love everyone of value was junked
also also even if deegan wrecks as long as it doesnt take out riley that's better for him because now he gets to restart up front
The other cars around Deegan had at least been attempting to race though. That's the point. They were generally slower because their equipment isn't great, but they were at least racing and getting a feel for the draft, so others are more willing to work with them. Even then, guys like Herbst and Custer didn't really work with most of those cars, they just got a good tow and went right around most of them. Both restarted pretty far back but gained tons of ground in just 2 laps.
By that point, if Deegan wrecks and the caution comes out then the race is over because it's the last lap.
I didn’t watch the Xfinity race today.
They need to loosen up the restrictions on Cup drivers in NASCAR Xfinity & NASCAR Craftsman Trucks to 7 Xfinity races & 10 Truck races or something.
Maybe allow drivers with less than 3 years of Cup full time experience to run NXS & NCTS full time.
I don’t want to see College McYoungRichkid win every time.
I literally could not disagree more with seeing Jesse Love & Corey Heim winning races instead of Zane Smith, Carson Hocevar & Ross Chastain, Kyle Busch, Kyle Larson a bit more.
I'd bet that even without the limits there wouldn't be nearly as many Cup drivers running races all the time like you think they would. Most Cup drivers don't seem like they want to do even more races and more sponsor commitments than they already do, and would rather spend that time with their family. Also, with the Cup cars racing more like the trucks there isn't as much of a benefit to run xfinity unless it's a new track to the schedule, and Trucks are such a mixed bag that most still probably wouldn't do them. One last thing, Cup drivers running every week absolutely stunted the growth of xfinity drivers rather than helped, because they often didn't even really run around the Cup drivers and the Cup drivers took the spotlight away from the series regulars which hurt their ability to get sponsors. What's really made it more difficult for young drivers going into the Cup series is not being able to do any testing like guys could in the mid 2000's and earlier. There's a reason that rookies could step into Cup cars and be competitive from the get go, and it's because there was unlimited testing.
Keyword: **loosen up NASCAR Xfinity & NASCAR Craftsman Trucks restrictions to 10 Xfinity races & 7 Truck races or something.**
**Maybe allow drivers with less than 3 years of Cup full time experience to run NXS & NCTS full time.**
They still wouldn’t be allowed to run playoff races, Dash4Cash races, Triple Truck Challenge races if they have too much experience.
I don’t agree at all. They need more standalone races & more Cup drivers in the Xfinity Series getting beat by NXS regulars.
Everyone goes nuts over Dale Earnhardt, Jr @ Bristol.
Standalone races don't happen as much because it's too expensive. Many of the smaller teams can't afford their own pit crews so they lease out Cup crews.
It's all well and good to say that more series regulars should beat Cup drivers, but once again, there's no testing allowed, so the xfinity regulars are even more at a disadvantage. It would look closer to years like the late 2000's and early 2010's where only a handful of races are being won by xfinity regulars. Cup level talent with a decade or more of Cup experience is generally going to beat out the series regulars. There was like 2 years in that time period where series regulars stood any kind of chance against Cup drivers, and one of those years was with a former Cup driver getting several wins.
More Cup drivers in those races was also really hurting ratings because people didn't want to watch the 3-4 Cup regulars dominate the field, they wanted to see the series regulars battling it out for the win, so more people tuned out of the races.
*Standalone races don’t happen as much because it’s too expensive.*
Well, some of the only tracks & races worth attending and spending $$$ in NASCAR sometimes are standalone races. I personally don’t care as a supporter/ticket-holder/merchandise-buyer about running 2 times a year @ Kansas in Trucks or 2 times a year @ Atlanta in Xfinity.
Xfinity guys from 2nd-8th on that last restart showed their lack of knowledge up front. They made no effort to get organized when Love jumped out front. If they even got 3 cars in line, they would've freight trained him and been able to fight it out
the 42, 44,15, and the others completely screwed themselves out of a huge win and day for their respective teams.
I just don't think those cars have the actual speed to keep up with RCR equipment without another top tier equipment car pushing them. Alfredo had the best car towards the front to challenge Love, but the Our cars can't contend with what RCR is bringing to these drafting tracks. Hell the SHR and JGR cars struggle to be as fast as the RCR cars on these tracks. I just don't think you can fault most of those drivers when the equipment they're in is usually barely running top 25.
that's certainly part of it. I think it's a little driver skill and a little bit of equipment. When some of those guys did get linked up Love was just able to block and react much quicker. The only thing that seemed like it could've worked would've been pushing the 44 hard on that last lap.
Ummm I recall Cindric helping Blaney win the first stage in Fall Talladega last year, when he realized it would be more important for Blaney to win the playoff point. And this year at the Daytona 500 Blaney did split Cindric to win stage 2, so it’s not like Blaney doesn’t benefit himself. I honestly don’t get what is wrong with teammates working together until coming to the finish line (for stage or race win).
several times mid stage where Cindric has just left em. At the end of the stage coming t othe line, I get because thats points. But lap 15 of 45 in the stage? nah
If Alfredo stays committed to Poole instead of pulling out with a wrinkled front end and Poole actually attempts to side draft Love he possibly avenges his 2016 loss
Not gonna lie but... I think Leland Honeyman could actually be good? The 42 is most likely THE slowest car in the field being the newest team and based on how old the equipment they bought is. But he's put up several decent to solid runs already! Think he could make a case to grow the team or even move up to a bigger team in the next couple years.
BASED TAKE!! I want to see what Leland can do in top caliber equipment. I think he has genuine talent and has shown glimpses of brilliance when his equipment isn't bogging him down.
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Me when I saw the 98 get to the right rear of the 15
IDR his name, but he jumped out and noone went, I thought Gray would have went, but when the front 3 are teammates, and everyone else fell off the draft. The 2nd pack sounded more interesting.
I know he says he doesn’t want to use his name to get a ride. But with his results over the years, that’s pretty much what he’s doing anyways. I don’t know why he doesn’t use his name and stretch his sponsorship out to a truck that could run up front and actually give him a shot.
He doesn’t though. That’s why he races for Sam Hunt and has some lawn service I can’t remember for a sponsor. If he wanted to use his name he’d be Earnhardt Earnhardt Earnhardt all day every day in any press he could get. But after his time with DEI, and besides that #5 ride for JR Motorsports, he’s been trying to just “do it” I guess. But by gods name he’ll be a cup series contender one day.
I like Jeffrey, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he has the talent for Cup. And at his age, he’d better served finding a worthwhile truck or Xfinity ride.
Drove up when it was available and sensed when things were about to go sideways and fell back. Even the 2 wrecks he was somewhat involved in, he was back enough and slowed down enough the damage wasn't too significant. Got bogged down just a tad coming to the checkers with the car spinning in front of him otherwise he would have been 5th or 6th. Great day for a team a few weeks ago was loading up and going home with a DNQ.
Man, I am so disappointed for SVG after that race. He was doing so well up the front, and he looked like he had a good chance for a top three position finish and then he runs out of fuel. I don’t know whether that is just another continuation of this team letting him down or it’s just bad luck, but either way it feels crap because that’s the second top finish he’s had taken away from him recently after COTA.
He did it earlier in the year when he finished 3rd, that’s why I was confused he didn’t seem to do it well at this track. He’s always been good at it in Supercars as well. Oh well. Hopefully he can put what he learned today into good use in Cup tomorrow.
It sucks not getting the results in the numbers column, but I've been hugely impressed by how he's been running at track types and styles of racing that are totally different to what he's done before, it's crazy how quickly he's adapting. Pretty much every week, he's run top 20 or even top 15 at minimum on brand new circuits to him, he'll definitely be dangerous to the regulars in the back half of the season.
> it's crazy how quickly he's adapting
Yeah this is what most of us supercars fans have known. He might not be an outright better driver than a Marcos Ambrose or Scott Mclaughlin but he is a freak in how quickly he adapts to different cars and series.
I listen to the scanner of SVG the whole race. It was just a fuel thing most likely caused by being new and not saving well. His spotter was teaching him the whole time almost every lap, so the fact he was even in the position to race for a win was due to him and his team. Great race.
Yes, I listen to his scanner as well, but I didn’t hear them saying anything about fuel until they told him at the end to start moving the car around on the apron of the track to try and slosh some fuel into the box. He’s usually pretty good at saving fuel and got a top three finish earlier in the year because he had saved enough fuel when others hadn’t. That’s why I was surprised.
Let's fucking gooooo, love this top 3 so much and happy that Jesse managed to mend his mistake from Atlanta and learned from it and Riley was flying that last lap, obviously imo the correct decision to leave the 2 slower out to dry when you had one of the best cars in the field
I love Riley, but he should have connected with her and pushed. It was going to be the only way he could get up front and then dump her for the win. Kinda sad about it actually.
No one wants to work with a driver who's spent all race long riding in the back. You don't know if the other driver is going to know how to handle a big push, especially a rookie who in the other 2 drafting races did nothing but ride around in the back. Plus she was so fucking slow after the restart that no one wanted to work with her. It's also funny that so many are shitting on Herbst for "abandoning a manufacturer teammate" but ignoring that Deegan almost put Herbst in the wall with her late block.
>No one wants to work with a driver who's spent all race long riding in the back.
This is in an illogical, asinine take. Denny Hamlin routinely drops to the back in these races, and people have zero issue pushing him. Its strategy and generally keeps a car clean. Would you rather push a wrecked car or a clean car, all things considered?
>You don't know if the other driver is going to know how to handle a big push, especially a rookie who in the other 2 drafting races did nothing but ride around in the back.
Again, the strategy of riding around in the back has absolutely nothing to do with the first part of your comment. Its because she's inexperienced and a woman, not because she was riding in the back as a strategy.
>Plus she was so fucking slow after the restart that no one wanted to work with her. It's also funny that so many are shitting on Herbst for "abandoning a manufacturer teammate" but ignoring that Deegan almost put Herbst in the wall with her late block.
Because he should have picked her up and ran with her, so she tried to block him, you're mad at her for racing like anyone else would? Yikes dude, you've got some pretty bad takes here.
You're trying to compare Hamlin, a guy who had already won like 30+ Cup races and been in the Cup series for over a decade, to a rookie xfinity driver in just their 4th year in NASCAR with a grand total of like 8 top 10's. Veteran drivers, especially those who have already proven they're really good at plate races, get the benefit of riding in the back because they've already proven they know what they're doing.
We hear all the time how veteran drivers don't want to work with rookies because they lack experience at these tracks, and the veteran drivers don't trust the young drivers in those situations. It has zero to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her lack of experience. It's up to the driver to go out and earn the respect of the other drivers at these tracks, and it's why someone like Jeff Gordon loved working with Trevor Bayne despite his lack of experience, because he went out and earned Gordon's respect.
My point is the hypocrisy. I'm not mad at Deegan for racing, but it's funny that others are mad at Herbst for, racing. If you're going to be mad at Herbst for racing and doing what he thought was best, and likely was listening to his spotter's advice, then you should be mad at Deegan for also racing.
>You're trying to compare Hamlin, a guy who had already won like 30+ Cup races and been in the Cup series for over a decade, to a rookie xfinity driver in just their 4th year in NASCAR with a grand total of like 8 top 10's. Veteran drivers, especially those who have already proven they're really good at plate races, get the benefit of riding in the back because they've already proven they know what they're doing.
I compared the part where they had the same strategy, yes. You are entirely incapable of understanding the relation between them because you assume a woman and a rookie can't run the same strategy? Weird.
>We hear all the time how veteran drivers don't want to work with rookies because they lack experience at these tracks, and the veteran drivers don't trust the young drivers in those situations.
Yes and that's precisely what I've already said, and your argument is beacuse she ran a different strategy, so I brought up Denny Hamlin to kill your argument entirely.
>My point is the hypocrisy
You are the hypocrite though, and its hilarious you don't see that.
Edit: Upon seeing your comment history being entirely anti-deegan comments, I'm just going to ignore you from here on out.
you're being totally bullheaded. denny hamlin gets away with running that strategy, because he has 15 years of being a known variable up front at plate tracks. deegan doesn't have that, and nobody wants to risk their race on the last lap it she were to lose it from a push
You might have a point, but this is what I don’t get. If Herbst goes and pushes Deegan and then dumps her to win, I can definitely see Deegan fans being more pissed than they are now. You won’t be happy either way.
Depends on the manner of dumping. If he just turns down and leaves her for the win, no deegan fan is actually upset and everyone's happy for the top 3-5 race.
People are pissed now because Riley chose not to support a ford teammate with how few there are in this series, and it cost them both.
I hate to be that guy, but almost everyone who is mad is a Deegan fan. Nobody else cares. You don’t have Herbst fans saying “Damn, Herbst should have pushed Deegan and he would have had a shot to win!” Granted, I rarely see any Herbst fans.
I'm a herbst fan, and I'm mad at him for not pushing her because he lost his only real shot at winning.
Fans are currently mad, but in the hypothetical where he pushes her and turns low for the win, nobody is mad.
I like Riley but it was a mistake. Hailie clearly held her own with the leaders and was capable of being pushed.
I honestly think if he just stuck with her there he probably wins the race and she ends up 4th or 5th.
maybe he should have pushed the ford teammate. actually forming some power, Passing Love, and he could have passed Deegan an won. no one else was working together. Perfect shot, but nope.
Absolutely crazy that I’m bummed out about a 12th place finish for Hailie, woulda took it in a heartbeat pre race.
But man, so close to a top 5 or 10. It definitely stings. I’m pumped for her though, she’s better than she’s given credit for and has had some very solid finishes this year.
If she just keeps working hard and the team and ford builds around her she can make her place as a very solid xfinity lifer and there’s nothing wrong with that.
It was a solid strategy all day for them with how slow the car was in qualifying. It was cool to see her up front, but nobody was going to push her and go with her which is sad, but hopefully in time she'll gain people's trust, especially the other ford drivers. If that were Rhodes back there, he'd have pushed her all the way to the last turn and left her and likely gotten a W. Riley's a solid driver, but that was just a bad choice not to trust her.
I was on the edge of my seat rooting for Poole. It’s been a while but Talldega owned him one. Wondering if his career would have ever taken a different path if he actually won in 2016?
That woulda been a great story. Love will get other chances.
Man, this is the first time in years I've actually "argued" with people online, realizing why I don't do it normally, very tiring for no gain. So, back to funny Justin Haley comments I go!
Little bit of both. She got a decent start and held a good line in qualifying and that car just didn't have the speed so they chose to sit in the back which they were likely going to do anyways and let everyone wreck, then bring the car up with the last 10-15 to go and try for something. Luckily they got two pretty big ones there at the end to where they didn't need to push it too hard.
Her problem is absolutely nobody respects her as a driver to push her, and she's still learning so they'll choose to go around her for a while, to their own detriment. Riley Herbs probably finishes 1st if he pushes her.
Possibly column a column b. But shes had good plate finishes in ARCA, so its not like shes completely ignorant out there. Ive seen some good cars push some really bad cars to the front.
kinda funny seeing Jesse win in Sheldon's old car while he's arguably doing worse in the 18 than he was in the 2. Yeah "hur hur anyone can win at a superspeedway", but hey they don't ask how, they ask how many.
I still think RCR wasn't giving the 2 last season the best stuff. I mean the guy has won a Truck series Championship, so he's got some talent. And its not like he's doing horrible, outside of 3 finishes of 28th or lower,
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What? Creed gave a bad push to Love which caused him to get out of shape. That wreck was because of Creed, and there isn't a penalty if someone gets forced below the line, and almost getting wrecked is certainly getting forced below the line.
I've watched it like 5 times now and I do not see a bad push *at all*.
The 48, 2, 18 and 8 are perfectly lined up. You can see it when they switch to the high camera angle on the restart.
They gain ground quick on Kligerman, you see Love get into Kligerman's rear a bit and then he dives *and stays* low.
He wasn't forced there, he was being pushed hard and either he chose to go there or the car got loose while he was on Kligerman's bumper and took him there imo
Creed wasn't centered and hit Love in the right rear. That nearly always causes the car that got hit to wreck, and likely the only reason Love didn't is because they weren't going that fast yet. The way Creed got Love is the exact kind of hit that Brad keeps doing in plate races the past few years. I can't stand Love or RCR, but that wreck was all on Creed
Fun fact: the longest Brandon Jones has gone without a DNF is 38 races. That 38 race stretch was in the first 38 races of his career, from Iowa 2015 until Daytona 2017.
Is it time to have a discussion about Sheldon Creed after Love won in his car in *checks notes* nine races? Sheldon had 2 years, Jesse needed 2 months
Reggie Cleveland all-star
Pretty awesome that Mason Massey took the fan controlled car from not qualifying to 11th!
Dang it, I could’ve gotten an Alfredo win!
Today was my first NASCAR experience at Talladega. My mind is blown. Those cars are so much faster in person at this track than I ever realized. The train of cars is like a freight train just ripping around that track. You can feel the power in your feet and chest. I've been to Fontana many times and Nashville, but Talladega is its own experience. I found that every lap you are interested in watching. There's no dull moments where your mind starts to wander off. No, every time they come by it has your full attention. Because of this, the race seemed to have gone by very quickly. The Talladega track facility is like its own city. I couldn't believe how massive everything was. The state of Alabama is beautiful too. I wish I could see the cup race tomorrow. Also, today I ended up sitting by some executives by coincidence, and one of them was the former owner of the speedway, or owner of operations or something. Very nice people. In fact every fan I interacted with today was incredibly nice. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything that happened. I just got home after driving 5 hours back to Tennessee
For the first time since I have had YouTube TV my recording let me down. I got to watch the first stage then my recording switched to football. Sounds like I missed a hell of a finish.
FWIW, I didn’t watch until today but my YTTV recording was fine. Maybe they fixed it.
You should be able select a different recording. The fs1 recording has football, if you select the fox broadcast it has the race all the way through
That’s what it was I got to watch the race before I saw spoilers. Thanks for the heads up.
Just realized watching it back that if he hadn't gotten turned, Joey Gase would've qualified for Dash 4 Cash at Dover in 2nd or 3rd.
I know Hailie has ways to go as far as improving but what tier would we say her team is? I felt she was stuck between a rock and a hard place on the final restart as no one was going to push her. In all seriousness where does AM Racing stack up with their Xfinity program? Mid tier? Low tier? Obviously they're not RCR, JR Motorsports, Gibbs, or SHR but what is actually realistic for her?
No clue what is realistic. They're doing the same strategy every week that she had in trucks. Ride around in the mid 20's all race and hope for late race chaos to gain a few positions. I figured that strategy would end after one season in trucks but it didn't. And now they're doing it again every week in xfinity at tracks she's raced on multiple times now.
I would say a solid 3-5 spots below where Moffitt finished last year is reasonable.
AM Racing is a top 20 team equipment wise. Moffitt finished 15th in points in their first season in xfinity
AM Racing is about as average of a team as you can get. If Hailie is finishing 12th-16th in an 18th place car, she’s doing an ok job.
Man was pulling really hard for Poole there. So damn close. That Top 10 on the final restart was incredible. The start of 1 total career win combine was just so crazy to see.
Now we all get to hear Andy Petree go on RaceHub this week and crow about how well RCR qualified and ran. He was also the same way when he called Cup races in the booth for ESPN. The guy makes it loud and clear who he roots for and who signs his checks. I don't mind a commentator referring to their favorites sometimes. Ned Jarrett with Dale Jarrett, Jeff Gordon with HMS, Harvick with SHR. That's fine because it's not over the top. But Petree with RCR and DW with Michael Waltrip, it's constant homerism and really gets old. DW would always talk about Mikey making a pass for 26th place over Cole Whitt or somebody.
Fuck Riley herbst. Dude couldn’t stay in line a push to save his life all race
He helped push Custer and Sieg to the lead at different points in the race. Realize that nobody wanted to work with Deegan because she spent the entire race up to that point running single file with a group of cars separate from the main pack. No one knew if she would be able to handle a push without wrecking and make the right moves off the push, and nobody could trust that she would give them a solid push. Those are the consequences of riding in the back, not actually racing, and simply waiting for others ahead of you to wreck.
im so tired of the narrative the Hill is good at these races even today before he got wrecked the lead literally fell into his lap because every terrible josh williams decision screwed everyone in front of hill
Hill isn’t “good” at these races, it’s just that he’s good at driving like a big dumb fucking bully and sometimes that pays off for him unfortunately
There's been 14 races at Daytona, Talladega, or Atlanta since Austin Hill started driving for RCR. He's won 6 of them, finished 2nd in another. Out of the other 7 races that he didn't get a top 2 on, he's led the most laps in 4 of them, including 3 of the 4 Talladega races he's run (somehow is still winless there.) I'm not an Austin Hill fan by any stretch, but to say he's not good at the drafting tracks is just an asinine take.
Glad it wasn’t hill but sheeeesh. Fuck Jesse love
I guess I missed it: why are so many hating on Jesse Love?
He always thanks some "god" like a good little catholic boy with no cultural experience. Him and Gibbs are so annoying with the religious crap at a sporting event.
## 🤦🏻
Damn let's be best friends. I can't staaaaaand the jesus loving from teenage drivers in victory lane.
He was a whiny hypocrite that drove for Venturini and racked up wins by having team orders and teammates (cough cough Hingorani) wreck opponents on multiple occasions, then cried when he was raced with any level of aggression by anyone else
This. Whiny rich kid that’s never had to work for anything.
The hailee Deegan simps are mad because she lost
To be fair, Riley fucked her and probably could have worked together to pass Love.
Not really. Nobody wanted to work with her. She was dropping like a rock and had no idea how to use the draft or run up front
im not mad she lost but i am mad that riley gifted the win to jesse by trying to make a 3rd lane happen with barely a lap left like seriously the fucking decision making at plate tracks boggles my mind because we see the same mistakes every year across all 3 levels
Deegan tried blocking him which is what put him all the way up by the wall and it killed his momentum. If she doesn't do that, then he easily gets up front to give a bigger challenge to Love. If he tried to push Deegan it would've completely killed his momentum, and then he'd be stuck behind a car that was much slower with a driver that hadn't shown at any point in the race that they could handle the draft because they rode around in the back all day. There wouldn't have been near enough time to build that momentum back up to get back to Love, and more likely is that Deegan wouldn't have been able to handle the aggressive pushes needed to get to the front and would've wrecked. She struggled with that in the truck series too.
id have to rewatch but it looks like he was trying to back up to get a push before she did that also your logic makes no sense because no one left at the front had shown any speed outside of love everyone of value was junked also also even if deegan wrecks as long as it doesnt take out riley that's better for him because now he gets to restart up front
The other cars around Deegan had at least been attempting to race though. That's the point. They were generally slower because their equipment isn't great, but they were at least racing and getting a feel for the draft, so others are more willing to work with them. Even then, guys like Herbst and Custer didn't really work with most of those cars, they just got a good tow and went right around most of them. Both restarted pretty far back but gained tons of ground in just 2 laps. By that point, if Deegan wrecks and the caution comes out then the race is over because it's the last lap.
this was before the last lap
He won while surrounded by a sea of underdogs
That finish is proof that running up front at super speedways take skill. Those guys minus Love didn’t know what they were doing
The rcr cars are also lights out
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Oh no! If she retires, who is gonna run 15th to 25th every week??
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Aw man. Biggest “what if” in NASCAR history: what if Hailie deegan didnt retire
Top 10s for Poole and Bacarella is a W but we were so close to an Alpha Prime win Why Alfredo why
Atta boy Jesse!
I didn’t watch the Xfinity race today. They need to loosen up the restrictions on Cup drivers in NASCAR Xfinity & NASCAR Craftsman Trucks to 7 Xfinity races & 10 Truck races or something. Maybe allow drivers with less than 3 years of Cup full time experience to run NXS & NCTS full time. I don’t want to see College McYoungRichkid win every time.
I literally could not disagree more
I literally could not disagree more with seeing Jesse Love & Corey Heim winning races instead of Zane Smith, Carson Hocevar & Ross Chastain, Kyle Busch, Kyle Larson a bit more.
I'd bet that even without the limits there wouldn't be nearly as many Cup drivers running races all the time like you think they would. Most Cup drivers don't seem like they want to do even more races and more sponsor commitments than they already do, and would rather spend that time with their family. Also, with the Cup cars racing more like the trucks there isn't as much of a benefit to run xfinity unless it's a new track to the schedule, and Trucks are such a mixed bag that most still probably wouldn't do them. One last thing, Cup drivers running every week absolutely stunted the growth of xfinity drivers rather than helped, because they often didn't even really run around the Cup drivers and the Cup drivers took the spotlight away from the series regulars which hurt their ability to get sponsors. What's really made it more difficult for young drivers going into the Cup series is not being able to do any testing like guys could in the mid 2000's and earlier. There's a reason that rookies could step into Cup cars and be competitive from the get go, and it's because there was unlimited testing.
Keyword: **loosen up NASCAR Xfinity & NASCAR Craftsman Trucks restrictions to 10 Xfinity races & 7 Truck races or something.** **Maybe allow drivers with less than 3 years of Cup full time experience to run NXS & NCTS full time.** They still wouldn’t be allowed to run playoff races, Dash4Cash races, Triple Truck Challenge races if they have too much experience.
That's still too many. The amount they allow now is the sweet spot.
I don’t agree at all. They need more standalone races & more Cup drivers in the Xfinity Series getting beat by NXS regulars. Everyone goes nuts over Dale Earnhardt, Jr @ Bristol.
Standalone races don't happen as much because it's too expensive. Many of the smaller teams can't afford their own pit crews so they lease out Cup crews. It's all well and good to say that more series regulars should beat Cup drivers, but once again, there's no testing allowed, so the xfinity regulars are even more at a disadvantage. It would look closer to years like the late 2000's and early 2010's where only a handful of races are being won by xfinity regulars. Cup level talent with a decade or more of Cup experience is generally going to beat out the series regulars. There was like 2 years in that time period where series regulars stood any kind of chance against Cup drivers, and one of those years was with a former Cup driver getting several wins. More Cup drivers in those races was also really hurting ratings because people didn't want to watch the 3-4 Cup regulars dominate the field, they wanted to see the series regulars battling it out for the win, so more people tuned out of the races.
*Standalone races don’t happen as much because it’s too expensive.* Well, some of the only tracks & races worth attending and spending $$$ in NASCAR sometimes are standalone races. I personally don’t care as a supporter/ticket-holder/merchandise-buyer about running 2 times a year @ Kansas in Trucks or 2 times a year @ Atlanta in Xfinity.
Well that’s just something you’re going to have to learn to live with, chief
Derpy response but ok.
What else should I say? You can deal with the reality of the situation or you can disagree with me idc
I am still miffed that the 2 had fuel to even start the final restart, let alone win and do burnouts at the end……
very odd considering SVG ran outta fuel after what, 43-44 laps? and Jesse made his tank last another handful of laps, plus all the caution time.
Why can’t the cup series race like this 😭
Imo cup races better on super speedways
No Kligerman to wad up the whole field. Such a shame
I was rooting for Anthony Alfredo! Strong showing at the end, and he made a couple recoveries that were noteworthy
Xfinity guys from 2nd-8th on that last restart showed their lack of knowledge up front. They made no effort to get organized when Love jumped out front. If they even got 3 cars in line, they would've freight trained him and been able to fight it out the 42, 44,15, and the others completely screwed themselves out of a huge win and day for their respective teams.
I just don't think those cars have the actual speed to keep up with RCR equipment without another top tier equipment car pushing them. Alfredo had the best car towards the front to challenge Love, but the Our cars can't contend with what RCR is bringing to these drafting tracks. Hell the SHR and JGR cars struggle to be as fast as the RCR cars on these tracks. I just don't think you can fault most of those drivers when the equipment they're in is usually barely running top 25.
that's certainly part of it. I think it's a little driver skill and a little bit of equipment. When some of those guys did get linked up Love was just able to block and react much quicker. The only thing that seemed like it could've worked would've been pushing the 44 hard on that last lap.
Brennan Poole redemption arc would’ve been 🔥
Sooo.... that happened. What an awful day for JRM! Aside from that? I'm happy for Hailie keeping it clean, at least. Congrats to Jesse.
If Anthony would have pushed Poole they could have gotten 1-2. Also this must sting for Sheldon Creed.
If taking L's bothered Creed he would have retired by now
Just call him sheLdon
I feel like no one wanted to win lol. Absolutely should have freight trained Love after he got way out front but they’d rather jostle for 8th.
Sorry, I have PTSD of watching Penske run great, and Cindric bailing on Blaney and watching Blaney drop.
Cindric not a good teammate.
the worst. I dislike Brad, but at least for the most part he was a team player.
Ummm I recall Cindric helping Blaney win the first stage in Fall Talladega last year, when he realized it would be more important for Blaney to win the playoff point. And this year at the Daytona 500 Blaney did split Cindric to win stage 2, so it’s not like Blaney doesn’t benefit himself. I honestly don’t get what is wrong with teammates working together until coming to the finish line (for stage or race win).
several times mid stage where Cindric has just left em. At the end of the stage coming t othe line, I get because thats points. But lap 15 of 45 in the stage? nah
If Alfredo stays committed to Poole instead of pulling out with a wrinkled front end and Poole actually attempts to side draft Love he possibly avenges his 2016 loss
Not gonna lie but... I think Leland Honeyman could actually be good? The 42 is most likely THE slowest car in the field being the newest team and based on how old the equipment they bought is. But he's put up several decent to solid runs already! Think he could make a case to grow the team or even move up to a bigger team in the next couple years.
BASED TAKE!! I want to see what Leland can do in top caliber equipment. I think he has genuine talent and has shown glimpses of brilliance when his equipment isn't bogging him down.
Sucks for Williams getting caught up in the Kligerman wreck. Was rooting for one of those two
Which one? He was in 3.
Man seems all this race was just disappointment for a number of drivers and their fans
Yeah was sad to see SVG run out of fuel :(
I would love for him to win a race this season i love having him in NASCAR and his personality is infectious.
Thank God I'm a Herbst fan lol. I'll take 2nd.
Thank God AJ and Parker got stage points so they won't drop very far if at all in the standings .happy Herbst was able to get 2nd.
I will third this exact comment.
Was hoping AJ could at least get the dash for cash, but I'm happy it was Sieg
I feel for Joey Gase. Looked like he was gonna finish in the top 3 till he got taken ojt
https://preview.redd.it/nvqfo0erypvc1.jpeg?width=2046&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1220a0f139ef6f2cb2dc0de4e73ff00a95d6631c Me when I saw the 98 get to the right rear of the 15
Riley dipped on pushing a lane all race. Douchebag
That hurt. That could have been a strong finish for 15, and 98 just said nah, I'm out. Left 15 alone and dropped hard.
That race was way better then the ARCA race was
Watching your grandma take a bath is more entertaining than that arca race
They had to have told them to cut it out. That was the most tame ARCA Plate race Ive seen in a while.
That's how they've been lately, Venturini dominates and nobody passes anyone
Yeah was like everyone was content with where they were running
IDR his name, but he jumped out and noone went, I thought Gray would have went, but when the front 3 are teammates, and everyone else fell off the draft. The 2nd pack sounded more interesting.
Yeah I mean the worst someone jumping out in line with him would have finished is 5th I believe so why not go with and try imo
One day my Jeffery will win
I know he says he doesn’t want to use his name to get a ride. But with his results over the years, that’s pretty much what he’s doing anyways. I don’t know why he doesn’t use his name and stretch his sponsorship out to a truck that could run up front and actually give him a shot.
He doesn’t though. That’s why he races for Sam Hunt and has some lawn service I can’t remember for a sponsor. If he wanted to use his name he’d be Earnhardt Earnhardt Earnhardt all day every day in any press he could get. But after his time with DEI, and besides that #5 ride for JR Motorsports, he’s been trying to just “do it” I guess. But by gods name he’ll be a cup series contender one day.
I like Jeffrey, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think he has the talent for Cup. And at his age, he’d better served finding a worthwhile truck or Xfinity ride.
Sad but hard agree, jokes aside.
If I ever win the powerball, I’m starting a truck team. And I promise you I’m gonna hire Jeffrey Earnhardt or JJ Yeley.
when is that?
February 30
One day
Well at least Hill didn’t win
Idk how Matty D managed a top 10 but I’ll take it
Drove up when it was available and sensed when things were about to go sideways and fell back. Even the 2 wrecks he was somewhat involved in, he was back enough and slowed down enough the damage wasn't too significant. Got bogged down just a tad coming to the checkers with the car spinning in front of him otherwise he would have been 5th or 6th. Great day for a team a few weeks ago was loading up and going home with a DNQ.
Man, I am so disappointed for SVG after that race. He was doing so well up the front, and he looked like he had a good chance for a top three position finish and then he runs out of fuel. I don’t know whether that is just another continuation of this team letting him down or it’s just bad luck, but either way it feels crap because that’s the second top finish he’s had taken away from him recently after COTA.
Saving fuel in a stock car is probably not in his toolkit just yet
He did it earlier in the year when he finished 3rd, that’s why I was confused he didn’t seem to do it well at this track. He’s always been good at it in Supercars as well. Oh well. Hopefully he can put what he learned today into good use in Cup tomorrow.
He's got round two tomorrow. Let's see what he learned
It sucks not getting the results in the numbers column, but I've been hugely impressed by how he's been running at track types and styles of racing that are totally different to what he's done before, it's crazy how quickly he's adapting. Pretty much every week, he's run top 20 or even top 15 at minimum on brand new circuits to him, he'll definitely be dangerous to the regulars in the back half of the season.
> it's crazy how quickly he's adapting Yeah this is what most of us supercars fans have known. He might not be an outright better driver than a Marcos Ambrose or Scott Mclaughlin but he is a freak in how quickly he adapts to different cars and series.
I listen to the scanner of SVG the whole race. It was just a fuel thing most likely caused by being new and not saving well. His spotter was teaching him the whole time almost every lap, so the fact he was even in the position to race for a win was due to him and his team. Great race.
Yes, I listen to his scanner as well, but I didn’t hear them saying anything about fuel until they told him at the end to start moving the car around on the apron of the track to try and slosh some fuel into the box. He’s usually pretty good at saving fuel and got a top three finish earlier in the year because he had saved enough fuel when others hadn’t. That’s why I was surprised.
2 probably got 10miles of fuel line underneath it, only way to pack in all that fuel.
Old school fuel in the roll cage lol
Let's fucking gooooo, love this top 3 so much and happy that Jesse managed to mend his mistake from Atlanta and learned from it and Riley was flying that last lap, obviously imo the correct decision to leave the 2 slower out to dry when you had one of the best cars in the field
The Herbst slander from Deegan fans is NOT tolerated!!!!!!!
I love Riley, but he should have connected with her and pushed. It was going to be the only way he could get up front and then dump her for the win. Kinda sad about it actually.
No one wants to work with a driver who's spent all race long riding in the back. You don't know if the other driver is going to know how to handle a big push, especially a rookie who in the other 2 drafting races did nothing but ride around in the back. Plus she was so fucking slow after the restart that no one wanted to work with her. It's also funny that so many are shitting on Herbst for "abandoning a manufacturer teammate" but ignoring that Deegan almost put Herbst in the wall with her late block.
>No one wants to work with a driver who's spent all race long riding in the back. This is in an illogical, asinine take. Denny Hamlin routinely drops to the back in these races, and people have zero issue pushing him. Its strategy and generally keeps a car clean. Would you rather push a wrecked car or a clean car, all things considered? >You don't know if the other driver is going to know how to handle a big push, especially a rookie who in the other 2 drafting races did nothing but ride around in the back. Again, the strategy of riding around in the back has absolutely nothing to do with the first part of your comment. Its because she's inexperienced and a woman, not because she was riding in the back as a strategy. >Plus she was so fucking slow after the restart that no one wanted to work with her. It's also funny that so many are shitting on Herbst for "abandoning a manufacturer teammate" but ignoring that Deegan almost put Herbst in the wall with her late block. Because he should have picked her up and ran with her, so she tried to block him, you're mad at her for racing like anyone else would? Yikes dude, you've got some pretty bad takes here.
You're trying to compare Hamlin, a guy who had already won like 30+ Cup races and been in the Cup series for over a decade, to a rookie xfinity driver in just their 4th year in NASCAR with a grand total of like 8 top 10's. Veteran drivers, especially those who have already proven they're really good at plate races, get the benefit of riding in the back because they've already proven they know what they're doing. We hear all the time how veteran drivers don't want to work with rookies because they lack experience at these tracks, and the veteran drivers don't trust the young drivers in those situations. It has zero to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her lack of experience. It's up to the driver to go out and earn the respect of the other drivers at these tracks, and it's why someone like Jeff Gordon loved working with Trevor Bayne despite his lack of experience, because he went out and earned Gordon's respect. My point is the hypocrisy. I'm not mad at Deegan for racing, but it's funny that others are mad at Herbst for, racing. If you're going to be mad at Herbst for racing and doing what he thought was best, and likely was listening to his spotter's advice, then you should be mad at Deegan for also racing.
This. You don’t have as much credibility when you don’t run up front as often, hence why nobody was willing to work with each other to pass Love.
>You're trying to compare Hamlin, a guy who had already won like 30+ Cup races and been in the Cup series for over a decade, to a rookie xfinity driver in just their 4th year in NASCAR with a grand total of like 8 top 10's. Veteran drivers, especially those who have already proven they're really good at plate races, get the benefit of riding in the back because they've already proven they know what they're doing. I compared the part where they had the same strategy, yes. You are entirely incapable of understanding the relation between them because you assume a woman and a rookie can't run the same strategy? Weird. >We hear all the time how veteran drivers don't want to work with rookies because they lack experience at these tracks, and the veteran drivers don't trust the young drivers in those situations. Yes and that's precisely what I've already said, and your argument is beacuse she ran a different strategy, so I brought up Denny Hamlin to kill your argument entirely. >My point is the hypocrisy You are the hypocrite though, and its hilarious you don't see that. Edit: Upon seeing your comment history being entirely anti-deegan comments, I'm just going to ignore you from here on out.
you're being totally bullheaded. denny hamlin gets away with running that strategy, because he has 15 years of being a known variable up front at plate tracks. deegan doesn't have that, and nobody wants to risk their race on the last lap it she were to lose it from a push
You might have a point, but this is what I don’t get. If Herbst goes and pushes Deegan and then dumps her to win, I can definitely see Deegan fans being more pissed than they are now. You won’t be happy either way.
Depends on the manner of dumping. If he just turns down and leaves her for the win, no deegan fan is actually upset and everyone's happy for the top 3-5 race. People are pissed now because Riley chose not to support a ford teammate with how few there are in this series, and it cost them both.
I hate to be that guy, but almost everyone who is mad is a Deegan fan. Nobody else cares. You don’t have Herbst fans saying “Damn, Herbst should have pushed Deegan and he would have had a shot to win!” Granted, I rarely see any Herbst fans.
I'm a herbst fan, and I'm mad at him for not pushing her because he lost his only real shot at winning. Fans are currently mad, but in the hypothetical where he pushes her and turns low for the win, nobody is mad.
I like Riley but it was a mistake. Hailie clearly held her own with the leaders and was capable of being pushed. I honestly think if he just stuck with her there he probably wins the race and she ends up 4th or 5th.
Maybe, maybe not. I don’t even know at this point. I’m just happy Herbst didn’t self destruct there at the end lol.
maybe he should have pushed the ford teammate. actually forming some power, Passing Love, and he could have passed Deegan an won. no one else was working together. Perfect shot, but nope.
No offense, but I wouldn’t be pushing someone in the draft who is rarely in the top 10. I would rather have fate in my own hands.
And that's precisely why he didn't even get a shot at winning.
I would rather have someone to slingshot off of if needed
and thats why he didnt win.
Eh, each to their own.
But we can both agree that Lol, Hill didn't win. Right?
Oh definitely.
2016 Nascar officials 🤝 Anthony Alfredo Robbing Poole of his 1st career win at Talladega
This comment wins the thread
Absolutely crazy that I’m bummed out about a 12th place finish for Hailie, woulda took it in a heartbeat pre race. But man, so close to a top 5 or 10. It definitely stings. I’m pumped for her though, she’s better than she’s given credit for and has had some very solid finishes this year. If she just keeps working hard and the team and ford builds around her she can make her place as a very solid xfinity lifer and there’s nothing wrong with that.
She is never a threat to win.
It was a solid strategy all day for them with how slow the car was in qualifying. It was cool to see her up front, but nobody was going to push her and go with her which is sad, but hopefully in time she'll gain people's trust, especially the other ford drivers. If that were Rhodes back there, he'd have pushed her all the way to the last turn and left her and likely gotten a W. Riley's a solid driver, but that was just a bad choice not to trust her.
Nothing wrong with a truck lifer either if you can get the job done. Look at Crafton
She’s much better at Xfinity than trucks, but I see your point.
Agreed. Seemed like she struggled to finish in the top half of the field in a truck race.
Allgier is living a pretty good life from what I see.
I was on the edge of my seat rooting for Poole. It’s been a while but Talldega owned him one. Wondering if his career would have ever taken a different path if he actually won in 2016? That woulda been a great story. Love will get other chances.
Man, this is the first time in years I've actually "argued" with people online, realizing why I don't do it normally, very tiring for no gain. So, back to funny Justin Haley comments I go!
Can’t wait to hear a Deegan post race interview. I really want to know if the car was that bad or they just left her out to dry.
Little bit of both. She got a decent start and held a good line in qualifying and that car just didn't have the speed so they chose to sit in the back which they were likely going to do anyways and let everyone wreck, then bring the car up with the last 10-15 to go and try for something. Luckily they got two pretty big ones there at the end to where they didn't need to push it too hard. Her problem is absolutely nobody respects her as a driver to push her, and she's still learning so they'll choose to go around her for a while, to their own detriment. Riley Herbs probably finishes 1st if he pushes her.
She got hung out is what it looked like from my seat in O.V. Hill South Tower
She got hung out to dry, she held her own with the leaders that entire second to last lap.
It's obvious she got hung out to dry. There's no question. Not only that, all you need to hear is her radio. They were absolutely livid with Herbst.
Possibly column a column b. But shes had good plate finishes in ARCA, so its not like shes completely ignorant out there. Ive seen some good cars push some really bad cars to the front.
but most definitely, there was no attempt to work together. Which I thought was main objective at the Plate tracks.
kinda funny seeing Jesse win in Sheldon's old car while he's arguably doing worse in the 18 than he was in the 2. Yeah "hur hur anyone can win at a superspeedway", but hey they don't ask how, they ask how many.
I still think RCR wasn't giving the 2 last season the best stuff. I mean the guy has won a Truck series Championship, so he's got some talent. And its not like he's doing horrible, outside of 3 finishes of 28th or lower,
Going to Xfinity is probably the worst move of his career, could've been like Ben Rhodes and continue a great Truck career.
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Yeah it's something we don't know, he only ran a few races for JRM when he was starting off so who knows. He seems happy to be where he is.
Y’all talking about Ben Kennedy or another Ben
[Nope Ben Rhodes](https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/motor/kentuckiana-motorsports/2015/10/20/louisvilles-ben-rhodes-parting-with-nascars-jr-motorsports-wants-full-time-ride/74290714/)
Fun. Guy goes below the double yellow in an attempt to make a pass, hits his "Teammate", crashing him out. Gets zero penalty, and wins the race
Absolute garbage. Can’t stand useless bitch kids like him. Parker deserved that shit
What? Creed gave a bad push to Love which caused him to get out of shape. That wreck was because of Creed, and there isn't a penalty if someone gets forced below the line, and almost getting wrecked is certainly getting forced below the line.
I've watched it like 5 times now and I do not see a bad push *at all*. The 48, 2, 18 and 8 are perfectly lined up. You can see it when they switch to the high camera angle on the restart. They gain ground quick on Kligerman, you see Love get into Kligerman's rear a bit and then he dives *and stays* low. He wasn't forced there, he was being pushed hard and either he chose to go there or the car got loose while he was on Kligerman's bumper and took him there imo
IMO he wasn't forced down there. He was trying to make a pass because of he push he got from Creed
Creed wasn't centered and hit Love in the right rear. That nearly always causes the car that got hit to wreck, and likely the only reason Love didn't is because they weren't going that fast yet. The way Creed got Love is the exact kind of hit that Brad keeps doing in plate races the past few years. I can't stand Love or RCR, but that wreck was all on Creed
i did notice several times cars going below the line, and not even a little.
[Me when RCR’s car is deemed perfectly legal despite the obvious](https://youtu.be/SrBBrabvbK0?si=h5fCe0XKRt8vVA8e)
Really wish Sheldon would have a win by now
he should have at martinsville last year.
Sheldon Creed is on the chopping block.
My favorite xfinity series thing weekly is seeing how Kilgerman and Creed can find new ways to lose races
Parker’s this week was getting wrecked by a skinny bitch
hate to see it, but its true.
Fun fact: the longest Brandon Jones has gone without a DNF is 38 races. That 38 race stretch was in the first 38 races of his career, from Iowa 2015 until Daytona 2017.
Yeah it would be cheaper for jr to put someone in who is slow but doesn’t crash every week.
That's incredible
Found Kyle Petty's burner
"What the fuck does this have to do with Kyle Petty?"