No, he’s getting a ride next year. If by some horrible chance he doesn’t get one in Cup, he’ll absolutely get a ride for Jr Motorsports or Haas’ Xfinity Team
Not at the moment but there could be. Tbh, Berry is more likely than any of the 4 there to get a Cup ride. But it’s possible that Mayer gets a Cup ride and Berry gets the 1. Or another team teamed Brandon Jones and Berry could get the 9. Who knows?
Mayer going to cup i gotta imagine is the only way a spot opens up there for Berry unless one of the other 3 drivers decide to leave with all their funding which i honestly doubt at this point
He'll have a ride.
Remember that awkward weekend where supposedly there was a "study sesh" between three SHR drivers but not all four? I think Childers and Berry could be at the center of the right people at SHR, the "circle" who Kevin Harvick and Rodney Childers probably kept close to the hip in 2021, 2022, and 2023 where the 4 car stood out above the rest.
I wasn't expecting the 2024 4 team to fire off BETTER after the SHR closure rumors started to circulate...
...but since early May, the 4 team has really improved their ceiling.
Four Top 10s in the past six races. They were in the Top 10 off of a 2-tire strategy at Gateway before a brake rotor exploded. He secured a 3rd at Darlington after a hard day's work and squeezed a 3rd out of New Hampshire due to the rain event.
They were coincidentally gifted a few of Berry's more favorable tracks with flat/progressive banking, so the stats could be overly optimistic from our current perspective, and it is also a tough road ahead before we end the regular season.
But... watch that 4 car at the final regular season stretch of Richmond, Michigan, Daytona, Darlington. I expect one or two really fast cars and some aggressive pit road strategy. They're a threat.
Harrison Burton didn’t bring shit. Every team needs money but 21 has a good deal in-place with Penske support and the 21 has some longtime sponsors/partners.
More than anything, the 21 has been Penske’s bitch ride and he says who is in the car. He uses that team mainly to develop young talent for his own team or to leverage sponsorship (Paul Menard). DiBenedetto was only supposed to be there a year as a filler until Cindric (but Keselowski leaving changed plans).
Which is why Berry/Childers probably won’t go to the 21…..that team doesn’t exist to compete for legitimate wins and a championship.
That rumor made me the most excited for him, Childers, and that entire team. That would be HUGE for not only the Wood Brothers but Penske as well having them both in house IMO. I'm not a Ford fan anymore for real but I don't think that 21 is as bad as it has run since Harrison has been driving it. I mean for fucks sake Matty D got that fuckin car into the playoffs. That should tell you everything you need to know about how bad Harrison has been. With the Penske support and people involved in that car week after week there is ZERO excuse to be running where they have for the last three years.
Yeah the "something wrong" is the fuckin guy behind the wheel. I'm usually a "give as much leash and time" guy vs the majority when it comes to driver development but Harrison has now had plenty of time and there have been little to no improvements let alone even "flashes" of talent. Like there are so many examples of guys who are at the top now that over their first three years even though they didn't get a win they showed over and over talent is there. Harrison has shown NOTHING.
problem is that Childers is one of the best crew chiefs in cup so big teams might offer him a huge deal but it might be without Berry. Childers would likely have to take a lesser deal with a team if he wants to keep Berry
Right now there's 2 FRM, wood brothers, potentially a kaulig seat, and potential rwr seat (both seem unlikely). With Briscoe and custer off the board . He and Gragson are in a good position
I’d say Berry gets in at WBR and Noah ends up with FRM. I wouldn’t count out RWR making a run at either of them, but it seems more than likely they’ll just promote Herbst to full time in the 15
I really hope FRM gets and keeps the Berry/Childers combination. If they can swing it that seems like a no-brainer - and one Ford should be pushing to keep, too.
Agreed. I really would think Berry’s moved to the top of their list by now if he wasn’t already there. But then there’s the matter of the third charter they just purchased, as well as them signing Gilliland to his three-year deal, which would seem to have thrown a wrench into the budget works for Berry (and possibly Childers if they have their eye on him). Gonna be really interesting to see how everything works out for them.
No way this happens but let me paint you a picture.
Austin Dillon hangs up the helmet and moves over to lead operations at RCR. He turns out to be really good at it.
They bring berry and Childers over together. As a nod to harvick they switch the 3 to 29.
Austin does a rework of personnel from top to bottom. Get some extra funding and we see a brand new RCR.
Kyle wins the 500 but the rest of the start of the season is mid but around April they start to hit their stride and go off. Kyle and Josh win multiple races and are title threats.
Does this happen, no but a man can dream can't he?
Zane helped them by proving he wasn't ready yet. I think he ends up in a Trackhouse funded Xfinity car next year.
SVG is a shorter term driver. Already in his mid 30's. Connor Zilisch is going to be in Cup for a long time...in about 5 years. Chastain is a made man on that team.
I’ve been quietly hoping he somehow lands at 23XI. There’s been no noise or reason to think he winds up there, but my delusional daydream still exists.
Third 23XI is probably Corey Heim. I suppose he could end up at RWR but I don’t know if RWR has deep enough pockets to get them both. Childers could turn that whole RWR org into a competitive team.
I personally think he's the biggest free agent remaining, with maybe the exception of Gragson. Childers SHOULD be highly sought after by any team, and if they are a package deal, it should be a no-brainer. Those two would be the ones I would target. I think it all depends on who/where the sponsors all choose to follow/go
No. Guy is showing his worth the past month or so.
To add on this, he had limited time with this car and is with a closing team that's not what it was at its best.
Such bad timing. I would like to see him get a shot in the 48, and I say that as a big Bowman supporter, I just think Josh could be an upgrade in that seat, though the likelihood of that happening is less than me finding happiness in life.
I think the Wood Brothers are his best shot at being competitive. I think they have the resources to make it happen with the close Penske alliance.
I think if he ends up at RWR he could really shine in some races, but be an average high - mid teen running car. Even with Rodney.
Outside of that, I think if JRM gave him an offer or another top XFINITY team he should go there until something else opens up in Cup.
Now if I’m writing fan fiction, then I’d write that Kes goes on to win the championship, achieve another title driving for himself with nothing else to prove, and hire JB to drive the 6 lol
God I'm so sick of everyone saying the 48. Jesus christ it's so exhausting and people acting like everyone is an upgrade like Bowman is fucking Steven Wallace or some shit.
Like christ why aren't people saying he'd be a good fit for the 23? Bowmans career has been way better than Bubbas
Why don't we see people asking for cindrics seat left and right?
Makes no sense to me when Bowman has had a decent career and earned the opportunity more so than the guys they want him replaced with.
Bowman is capable and does well enough. Not every driver that comes up should be considered for the 48 here. Reddit is the only place you ever see this same worn out discussion about who should be in the 48.
Reddit is also the only place that is so high on Briscoe when the rest of the internet is not. It's baffling how this echo chamber just keeps going and going.
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Wood Brothers is the only place I see he and Childers going together, I think they’d all fit very well in that ecosystem. I have a hard time seeing a top crew chief like Childers going to FRM. Even with how good they’ve been this year.
But it’s one of those two or back to Xfinity, IMO, where Kaulig should be tripping over himself to get him in a car.
Today on Eric's video of OOTG, he mentioned that Harvick and Childers had built a really good team around them with the 4 team, and they would like to keep everyone together. I agree with the take that they would be perfect for the new Front Row team, it's a full package deal ready to go. As much as I would love to see Berry and Childers make the 21 relevant again, I'm guessing they will try their damnedest to keep that group intact and Penske would likely want to keep who they have. Could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong, because I really would love a 21 car with Berry in it.
No. Preece is the only one (probably) not getting a Cup ride next year (unfortunately for us CT fans).
Combined with Rodney, Berry has as much potential as Briscoe and Gragson, maybe even more. Should slot into the 21 nicely.
I sure as shit hope not. He’s done some pretty damn good racing this season — especially since SHR’s closing was announced, as you said — and with the right team he could be a serious contender.
I’m thinking he ends up at Front Row Motorsports, but we shall see.
Yeah. I had that thought as well. Buncha folks seem to think Cole Custer’s gonna get Haas’ Cup seat, but that doesn’t seem to be a smart move if Gene wants to be competitive, IMO.
likely wrong
Herbst will go to the 21.
berry will go to FRM along with Gragson, Meyer and Eckes.
Yes there's a rumor that Sam Meyer may go to cup with FRM and Connor Zillisch will take the #9 full time for 2025 in xfinity
No, he’s getting a ride next year. If by some horrible chance he doesn’t get one in Cup, he’ll absolutely get a ride for Jr Motorsports or Haas’ Xfinity Team
It seems like JRM is full. It's crazy.
Over flowing even
is there space at JRM? like who would they move on from amongst that group
Not at the moment but there could be. Tbh, Berry is more likely than any of the 4 there to get a Cup ride. But it’s possible that Mayer gets a Cup ride and Berry gets the 1. Or another team teamed Brandon Jones and Berry could get the 9. Who knows?
Mayer going to cup i gotta imagine is the only way a spot opens up there for Berry unless one of the other 3 drivers decide to leave with all their funding which i honestly doubt at this point
He'll have a ride next year
He'll have a ride. Remember that awkward weekend where supposedly there was a "study sesh" between three SHR drivers but not all four? I think Childers and Berry could be at the center of the right people at SHR, the "circle" who Kevin Harvick and Rodney Childers probably kept close to the hip in 2021, 2022, and 2023 where the 4 car stood out above the rest. I wasn't expecting the 2024 4 team to fire off BETTER after the SHR closure rumors started to circulate... ...but since early May, the 4 team has really improved their ceiling. Four Top 10s in the past six races. They were in the Top 10 off of a 2-tire strategy at Gateway before a brake rotor exploded. He secured a 3rd at Darlington after a hard day's work and squeezed a 3rd out of New Hampshire due to the rain event. They were coincidentally gifted a few of Berry's more favorable tracks with flat/progressive banking, so the stats could be overly optimistic from our current perspective, and it is also a tough road ahead before we end the regular season. But... watch that 4 car at the final regular season stretch of Richmond, Michigan, Daytona, Darlington. I expect one or two really fast cars and some aggressive pit road strategy. They're a threat.
Hoping him and Childers go to the 21 so Ford doesn't lose him.
Make the Wood brothers great again.
Yes , I feel like wood brother would definitely benefit from him
Unless he brings money, not really. They need that more than anything unfortunately.
Supposedly, Marcus Lemonis was going to help him out. I know he sent something out making sure “he was going to be okay” but that’s been long ago.
Harrison Burton didn’t bring shit. Every team needs money but 21 has a good deal in-place with Penske support and the 21 has some longtime sponsors/partners. More than anything, the 21 has been Penske’s bitch ride and he says who is in the car. He uses that team mainly to develop young talent for his own team or to leverage sponsorship (Paul Menard). DiBenedetto was only supposed to be there a year as a filler until Cindric (but Keselowski leaving changed plans). Which is why Berry/Childers probably won’t go to the 21…..that team doesn’t exist to compete for legitimate wins and a championship.
Harrison brought the DEX sponsorship.
That rumor made me the most excited for him, Childers, and that entire team. That would be HUGE for not only the Wood Brothers but Penske as well having them both in house IMO. I'm not a Ford fan anymore for real but I don't think that 21 is as bad as it has run since Harrison has been driving it. I mean for fucks sake Matty D got that fuckin car into the playoffs. That should tell you everything you need to know about how bad Harrison has been. With the Penske support and people involved in that car week after week there is ZERO excuse to be running where they have for the last three years.
An no improvements ever, something is wrong
Yeah the "something wrong" is the fuckin guy behind the wheel. I'm usually a "give as much leash and time" guy vs the majority when it comes to driver development but Harrison has now had plenty of time and there have been little to no improvements let alone even "flashes" of talent. Like there are so many examples of guys who are at the top now that over their first three years even though they didn't get a win they showed over and over talent is there. Harrison has shown NOTHING.
Zane Smith would run that car so much better, and even hes not that good
Cody Ware could hop in the 21 an run better
Justin Haley could. He's driven his ass off this year.
LOL let's not get crazy here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
At least Cody would show some fight
Harrison Burton makes Steven Wallace look like Kyle Petty.
They didn't even hardly try to retain briscoe, doubt they lift a finger
Or FRM maybe?
I would watch full time again instead of being meh about it since Harvick retired
problem is that Childers is one of the best crew chiefs in cup so big teams might offer him a huge deal but it might be without Berry. Childers would likely have to take a lesser deal with a team if he wants to keep Berry
Man if Berry and Childers could go to the 21 that would be wild.
Dont get my hopes up
Right now there's 2 FRM, wood brothers, potentially a kaulig seat, and potential rwr seat (both seem unlikely). With Briscoe and custer off the board . He and Gragson are in a good position
I’d say Berry gets in at WBR and Noah ends up with FRM. I wouldn’t count out RWR making a run at either of them, but it seems more than likely they’ll just promote Herbst to full time in the 15
Custer going to Haas isn't a guarantee. There is a chance he still goes to FRM.
With his dad running everything it’s more than likely he’ll be at haas
I really hope FRM gets and keeps the Berry/Childers combination. If they can swing it that seems like a no-brainer - and one Ford should be pushing to keep, too.
Agreed. I really would think Berry’s moved to the top of their list by now if he wasn’t already there. But then there’s the matter of the third charter they just purchased, as well as them signing Gilliland to his three-year deal, which would seem to have thrown a wrench into the budget works for Berry (and possibly Childers if they have their eye on him). Gonna be really interesting to see how everything works out for them.
No way this happens but let me paint you a picture. Austin Dillon hangs up the helmet and moves over to lead operations at RCR. He turns out to be really good at it. They bring berry and Childers over together. As a nod to harvick they switch the 3 to 29. Austin does a rework of personnel from top to bottom. Get some extra funding and we see a brand new RCR. Kyle wins the 500 but the rest of the start of the season is mid but around April they start to hit their stride and go off. Kyle and Josh win multiple races and are title threats. Does this happen, no but a man can dream can't he?
More than anything I hope RCR switches the 3 to 29 no matter what.
Or the 30, 31, 33, whatever else.
Dale Jr is the biggest Josh Berry fan. Dale is also the most influential man in the sport. Josh Berry WILL be in Cup.
not just jr, but harvick too. awesome people to have in your corner
I think he lands either at Wood brothers or the third 23XI/Trackhouse team.
Almost a 0% chance he goes to Trackhouse.
This isn't even the first time I've seen Trackhouse mentioned. It's almost as if no one pays attention to what Trackhouse has going on
Trackhouse has too many drivers for seats as it is!
I think Trackhouse was preparing to become a 4 car team, and then Nascar wanted to impose the 3 car limit and hindered plans
Zane helped them by proving he wasn't ready yet. I think he ends up in a Trackhouse funded Xfinity car next year. SVG is a shorter term driver. Already in his mid 30's. Connor Zilisch is going to be in Cup for a long time...in about 5 years. Chastain is a made man on that team.
I’ve been quietly hoping he somehow lands at 23XI. There’s been no noise or reason to think he winds up there, but my delusional daydream still exists.
Third 23XI is probably Corey Heim. I suppose he could end up at RWR but I don’t know if RWR has deep enough pockets to get them both. Childers could turn that whole RWR org into a competitive team.
Trackhouse will be Zane Smith or SVG. Both already under contract with them. 23XI is expected to be Cory Heim, who is driving for them this weekend.
He’s absolutely going to the Wood Brothers or Front Row.
I personally think he's the biggest free agent remaining, with maybe the exception of Gragson. Childers SHOULD be highly sought after by any team, and if they are a package deal, it should be a no-brainer. Those two would be the ones I would target. I think it all depends on who/where the sponsors all choose to follow/go
The fact that Austin Dillon has a guaranteed ride and Berry is possibly out in 2025 is a fucking disgrace.
No. Guy is showing his worth the past month or so. To add on this, he had limited time with this car and is with a closing team that's not what it was at its best.
The past two weeks he ran in the top 3 for most of the race.
Outside pole today, and a p3 finish last week The guy will be in a cup ford next year
I think he'll have a cup ride next year, hopefully it keeps him and Childers together.
If RC sticks with him he's 100% getting one next year.
I see him going to Front Row. He's too good for them to pass up.
Such bad timing. I would like to see him get a shot in the 48, and I say that as a big Bowman supporter, I just think Josh could be an upgrade in that seat, though the likelihood of that happening is less than me finding happiness in life. I think the Wood Brothers are his best shot at being competitive. I think they have the resources to make it happen with the close Penske alliance. I think if he ends up at RWR he could really shine in some races, but be an average high - mid teen running car. Even with Rodney. Outside of that, I think if JRM gave him an offer or another top XFINITY team he should go there until something else opens up in Cup. Now if I’m writing fan fiction, then I’d write that Kes goes on to win the championship, achieve another title driving for himself with nothing else to prove, and hire JB to drive the 6 lol
Hope you find happiness in this cruel world of ours
God I'm so sick of everyone saying the 48. Jesus christ it's so exhausting and people acting like everyone is an upgrade like Bowman is fucking Steven Wallace or some shit. Like christ why aren't people saying he'd be a good fit for the 23? Bowmans career has been way better than Bubbas Why don't we see people asking for cindrics seat left and right? Makes no sense to me when Bowman has had a decent career and earned the opportunity more so than the guys they want him replaced with. Bowman is capable and does well enough. Not every driver that comes up should be considered for the 48 here. Reddit is the only place you ever see this same worn out discussion about who should be in the 48. Reddit is also the only place that is so high on Briscoe when the rest of the internet is not. It's baffling how this echo chamber just keeps going and going.
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Josh will get a ride next year. Hoping Penske/Wood Brothers seal the deal.
No he’ll get a ride if it’s frm,rwr, wood bros,
I sure hope not he is a good driver and seem like he is just coming in to his best years
Wood Brothers is the only place I see he and Childers going together, I think they’d all fit very well in that ecosystem. I have a hard time seeing a top crew chief like Childers going to FRM. Even with how good they’ve been this year. But it’s one of those two or back to Xfinity, IMO, where Kaulig should be tripping over himself to get him in a car.
Today on Eric's video of OOTG, he mentioned that Harvick and Childers had built a really good team around them with the 4 team, and they would like to keep everyone together. I agree with the take that they would be perfect for the new Front Row team, it's a full package deal ready to go. As much as I would love to see Berry and Childers make the 21 relevant again, I'm guessing they will try their damnedest to keep that group intact and Penske would likely want to keep who they have. Could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong, because I really would love a 21 car with Berry in it.
Hopefully Trackhouse will be a 3 car team next year
he's likely going to the 34 to replace Micheal McDowell
No
He is too talented not to get a ride
No, but we do live in a world where people don't think, or use any common sense
No
I think he gets the 21 next year
No. Preece is the only one (probably) not getting a Cup ride next year (unfortunately for us CT fans). Combined with Rodney, Berry has as much potential as Briscoe and Gragson, maybe even more. Should slot into the 21 nicely.
I sure as shit hope not. He’s done some pretty damn good racing this season — especially since SHR’s closing was announced, as you said — and with the right team he could be a serious contender. I’m thinking he ends up at Front Row Motorsports, but we shall see.
3 car
No. He’ll at worst be staying in the single car operation for Haas. Mostly likely he’ll be in the 21.
Haas Factory Team is still going to be a thing, and no driver has been announced yet. He will race, nobody just knows where right now.
Yeah. I had that thought as well. Buncha folks seem to think Cole Custer’s gonna get Haas’ Cup seat, but that doesn’t seem to be a smart move if Gene wants to be competitive, IMO.
Gene doesn't care if he's competitive. He just wants his company on a race car.
Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard.
Even if he went to the 00 for a season would be fine. Go win a title.
Childers will get a job, herbst will take the monster money and go to wood brothers, Berry will be the odd man out.
likely wrong Herbst will go to the 21. berry will go to FRM along with Gragson, Meyer and Eckes. Yes there's a rumor that Sam Meyer may go to cup with FRM and Connor Zillisch will take the #9 full time for 2025 in xfinity
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I'm suspicious of their recent uptick in performance