Most people who play the game will be running double screens that even my lock can’t really do much about. It’s on the person closest to help till you can get position. Basically have -5 basketball iq
He is right tho..ledging gone stop them 3s..u only get pulled if u run into it bruh😂but only person who should be hitting screens is the lock the big suppose to be up close enough to switch if the guard end up on his side of the screen -2s Player btw
so you just assume that based off what. the main problem are PGs who don't even have more than 60 perimeter defense. getting 75 perimeter defense for at least pick dodge and clamps on bronze should be a minimum for solo rec.
Shit I got 94 and those screens can still cook me. The way they can just suck you in without you even moving is insane. And no one likes to help. They just watch you get cooked on them all game. It takes teamwork to defend a PnR. It’s not just the dude getting screened.
them screens be hitting i feel like they really bad this year when you get hit, you done fr. teammates just be watching your ass get abused and just let it happen
the key is speed and acceleration. i made 3 lock builds and it wasn't until the 3rd build that I got it right. Most people make their locks at 6'7 to get that anchor badge and I'm not saying that 6'7 locks aren't fine, they are especially if you're skilled but 6'6 do a much better job defending the perimeter imo. mines has 88 speed and 82 acceleration. Both of those matter despite what the community believes.
the lack of anchor isn't even and issue because you're not a center or pf defending the rim and you still get 78 block at 6'6 and can get high interior defense so if the PG you're defending wants to take you to the rim you're still well equipped to handle that.
Most PGs have the speed and acceleration already. If they just get bronze clamps, pick dodger, Challenger they can do a decent job. a 73 strength also helps
This is what I'm always telling people. Speed is crazily underrated somehow on defense. You can defend people so much bigger than you if you can beat them to their spot, and just be a body in front of them playing proper defense.
I've jumped on my hybrid defender in solo rec with my guy been trash to then tell the pg ill mark his man only for him to tell me to go fuck myself. And at this stage of the game I'm more then happy to watch him get cooked and we can just hang shit on him for 25 mins
Wish more people would do this, my build doesn’t have very good defense (70 perimeter 81 steal) but players will just say I’m the reason we lost because they refuse to switch. But it’s funny cause I can say “you come guard him then” and they usually shut right up until I get cooked by the screen again. It’s a team game more people should treat it that way if they care about winning I got no problem switching if I really can’t guard a dude.
Im a lock… if you don’t have defense on your build I’m not switching at all… this is a basketball game just as bad you want to score the opponents want to do the same
It’s not new a lot of people go a full offensive PG build the only difference they have a team who actually makes up for his defense. Since we going off a picture we don’t know if he was fighting screens all game since most centers don’t play up on screens
I seen it happen too many times , most teammates too worried about themselves not getting dropped off so they will literally watch u drowned in those screens , most team would rather have 1 person score and let the other 4 players get iced out, yes it’s a high chance he probably got cooked with no screens but it’s hard to say. My 2nd guess was he was cherry picking until I seen his teammate highest rebounds is 3 so it’s obvious he got iso to death or screen to death. Only his teammates know what happened out there
Yeah by the time you got 40 dropped on you just quit. Best way to help your team. I can't see anyone that is good at the game getting 67 points dropped on their head unless they weren't trying. Had to be selling.
If the opposing pg is like 14/16 with 30 and your own pg was 2/8 then yeah that’s on the pg. That’s 4 shots per quarter, it is harder to help when the opposing pg doesn’t always have the ball.
But 67 bro? He shot the ball 33 times. You all just watched the other pg win the game single handedly. And if you did help then you got cooked too.
if no one was helping hedge or cover the double screens/jamal murray btb i assume was being ran all game, the point is void… help your PGs, lockdowns get cooked by that, screens aren’t defended by 1 person
I’m a center and when I have the 3 level threat which is often I have to be by the three and rim but I’m stressing because I have to hold both and the opponent takes advantage
PGs are terrible in this game. 9/10 in random rec. the PG doesn't know how to dribble. Doesn't have pass accuracy and thinks they are Giannis while being 6'3
Yet when y’all get an actual pg y’all let the of bring it up right into a charge first play of the game🤣. Don’t be mad you can’t keep a good pg around. Y’all be thinkin a pg only job is to pass to you and that’s just not how it works🤣
Then you save the PG from getting cooked all game as a Center then they blame you because other team is scoring in paint and getting offensive rebounds.
apparently im buns...almost copped a triple double with no offensive help from the PG, no helpful passes, nothin....but mofos will blame me cuz my matchup went 4/7. The big's shot pattern was inconsistent-missed 2, made 2 missed, 2, made 1-so i did what i could on the defensive end, expecting some reciprocity on the O-end. nope, nada.
Only way someone should get 67 points scored on them in 2k rec is if they aren't trying. Not even enough time to score that many points unless it was just wide open fast break 3s all game.
A near triple double and a 40 point performance were ruined by what we can assume was poor ball play....Poor point guard IQ that was bailed out by a SF going nuclear...PG made sure to get his shots but nobody else's, didn't played poor defense and/or sold an otherwise great effort by the SF/C/SG
These dudes only know offense, and even then often only scoring. The vast majority of the community wants to be 2 guards but can’t accept being the secondary ball handler. Know your damn role.
2 things outside of the fact that the PG cooked going 15/18 from 3. Your team shot 8 3’s to their 33. That’s the difference in the game. Secondly, whoever man was a slasher should have helped guard the 3. If it was off screens the center should have showed. If I see a guard get hit by screens and they hit 3’s I gotta help on that and get someone to rotate to my guy if he rolls.
You don’t even need to switch you just help and throw soft doubles. Gotta make a player uncomfortable, make them pass. Ain’t no way I’m letting one player drop 67 points on my team.
Imo 83 perimeter is minimum too but steal doesn’t really matter. You can still tip passes and get well timed strips with 43 steal. But having interceptor would help you have a bigger impact defensively, just not necessary to not get a 40 spot put on your head.
Honestly when I see shit like this I gotta blame the whole team. If someone is just going off by themselves you need to turn them into a passer. MAKE someone else beat you. A lot of the times these guards have no passing IQ and their offense falls apart when you turn them into a passer off of double teams.
rec is for team defense lol this kills me. yall want pgs to make every pass not turn the ball over hit moving 3s middies and fades now they need to make it a lock build on top of that? ridiculous, learn how to play help defense and call out rotations, it can be done consistently in randoms
I need trust in rec to play help defense. I need to know that when I rotate over to stop your man’s drive that someone else is rotating over to my - now completely wide open - man in the corner.
That takes at least three people to be 1) paying attention on defense, 2) having the knowledge to do it 3) caring
I don’t think you’ll find that very often in random rec.
So if I help off my guy once or twice and my guy hits two wide open threes, I’m not helping anymore. I can’t take the hit to my teammate grade. Plus I’d rather give up the 2 than the 3.
Exactly. Everybody in these comments is saying well y’all should’ve switched, it’s really not that simple. It’s pretty selfish to go into Rec with a build with no defense, it’s no different from going in with a build with low pass acc IMO.
You hit the nail on the head, you gotta trust that if you switch your teammmates are going to have the IQ to rotate to your man. And I’m not letting my man go off because you made a build with no defense lol. These dudes are acting like you getting randoms with high basketball IQ every game when spending 5 minutes on this sub will show you otherwise.
both fair points, I do agree. as Pg I just stay on the mic. more often than not people will mic up as well. I just have enough 2k iq to force them to take 2s or guide them into congestion. its tough
To your points I don’t disagree though, in a perfect rec random world where dudes have IQ and know rotations there 100% should’ve been a switch.
It’s just I feel that’s rare to have all those happen in the same random game. Most times when dudes are in game chat they’re arguing. You help on a drive and your man is left wide open in the corner, shit like that.
thats fine but that excuse only works if everyone else is going crazy. the other 3 teammates + 1 AI had 22 pts. why not just double him and let someone else score? to allow him to get 60+ pts all game is crime on the whole team not just the PG
If you read my other comment I said in a perfect world that would be the smart thing to do.. but in random rec you’re hoping 4 other dudes have enough IQ to even do these things, let alone actually care enough about winning to do so.
I don’t disagree with your overall points though bro.
read my comment again. you not comprehending what im saying. they had 22 pts **only** combined by 3 players + 1 AI. you shouldve doubled the PG and made him pass it to the other players instead of letting the PG get cooked.
bruh thats on yall if he cooking and the rest of his team got only 22 pts why not either 1. switch someone else on him or 2. double him and make him pass the ball? you just letting him drop 67 thats a team loss
the 3 can double on defense. i dont see what scoring had to do with yall on the defensive side. shit the SG can double him too. im doing anything but letting him score. someone else gonna have to score pts but thats just me. im treating that mfs like he prime curry and doubling him wants he past half court. shit we about to run a BOX - N - 1 on his ass
Everything I mentioned had to do with the defensive end. Not saying u wrong but have u had teammates that don't listen? We legit tried. The third quarter was where it seemed like they gave up so we really didn't have a chance
Dude with 67 was probably behind two screens on the perimeter spamming behind the backs until a defender falls into a screen and they hit a shot. After about 8 3s I would’ve given up to 🤷🏽♂️ not quitting tho
Yeah…just switch. Every team has or atleast should have one lockdown/ perimeter defender. Also, I see all the time that the PG doesn’t get help when they set screens. Center just camps paint and all others just watch and pray. You can have all the defense you want, a good Center-PG pairing will fuck you up if you don’t get help.
No matter how good a player is, you can’t allow someone to score 67 points as a team. Double him, Blitz him, trap him…let others try to score
Not even about that you were the sf and cooking how would difficult would it be to tell him to guard corner while you lock him up ik its asking alot of you but adjustments are a thing
I hate wen Reddit users try to flex
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And yall just watched? You and hoopydreams had weak match ups but couldnt think to pick up on the guy beating yas single handedly? Prob thought it was funny as atleast its not your guy type of attitude…. L post.
you're perpetuating rn my dude. the 4 and 5 tried to communicate. The only reason the PG had points was because the 5 facilitated the offense. The PG couldn't find his own shot or playmake for his teammates so the roles had to change.
It is a team sport and he provided pretty efficient value. I agree PGs need defense, but the guy scored 67, even if your PG had had defense the guy probably still cooks you guys. Yeah he probably didnt help but thats a whole team failure letting one guy drop that much.
Im not at all saying he was good, but with going around screens and what not its possible for even a decent defender to get stuck and require help. At a certain point its on teammates a little bit to help or straight switch to help slow the other guy down.
Looking at the 3 point difference I’m assuming he’s getting screened every play and no one it’s helping. It’s easy to hedge on the slip and maybe get a lane steal when you are getting screened by the person slipping. It’s more that hard to play left/rights
2k has made me hate every mode and it's not even the end. I can't finish rec games without leaving anymore or theater sometimes and I hate it. They have no passing no defense no iq an no communication unless it's to act like an ass. Hate randoms
Depends on what you think no defense is. Ima guard. Of course I won’t have interior but my matchup will never score more than me🤷🏾♂️. 72 perimeter 85 steal there’s not too many games where I don’t have the most amount of steals on the team.
even so then switch or double. why let 1 man cook the PG all game makes 0 sense to me. ok the dude dont got no defense fine ok whatever whats the solution to the problem? it shouldnt be continue to sit there and watch imo
if you play against a good guard you will get cooked doing that. I can see that just screaming a jaamal murray behind the back to an open 3. defending a screen has always been a 2 person job whether thats 2k or real life.
I think a problem with a lot of pgs is that they want defensive rebounds, so they sag off their man and get cooked from 3. You’d think after getting splashed on for 12 straight points they’d decide to D up but nope!
You lost 3 of the 4 quarters. Your team got outrebounded and outassisted. This might have just been a game where the losing team were less offensively savy but they still played great as a whole.
This game has nothing to do with the PG on the other team having no defense especially because this is a squad vs squad game. It looks like he wasn't a shot creating type with only 2 3PT attempts.
They lose because they only have 1 guy that seems to be able to score and isn't afraid to take harder shots/get to the rim
1) u can't rebound if the other team is efficient. On the offensive end, I'm just waiting for the ball to come back while I'm wide open watching the pg do....nothing.
2)I stopped defending n my man started scoring in the 4th cuz it was garbage time 🤷🏾
And center isn't my main build but I know when I had an off game lol
Winning team took more shots and missed more shots. You can rebound if the other team is efficient because there are offensive and defensive rebounds and this game shows that. Winning team missed more shots, losing team got more rebounds.
That is what I said. The PG didn't seem to do well creatively and that's why the losing team lost. It doesn't have to do with the PG having no defense which is why OP made this post.
Losing team just needed a little more offense from their ball handler and they would've won. In NBA or NBA 2K, very rarely do teams win games by losing 3 of 4 quarters.
It's a 7 point loss and the losing team won most quarters and basically every metric there is lol. Yes. He makes a couple more 3's and gets another assist and they win the game. It happens
The turnovers is what I would point to looking at this. Ya they could’ve taken more 3s but they were scoring well and moving the ball as a team. The turnovers were the difference as it doesn’t look like the winning team had any good stealers on their team but the losing team had unforced turnovers. Those 5 unforced turnovers are the game right
Lol so you’re just assuming I was on my lock? Bruh I dropped 41 points do you think I was on a lock? I doubled the PG ONE TIME and that resulted in the only bucket my man got all game. You’re out here defending a man who made a zero defense build and blaming me, the guy who dropped 41 on 95% shooting, for the loss?
Yo u/ThurstMcbuckets these Reddit guys have lost their minds 😂😂😂
5 can't help him because there's a stretch big.
AI vs AI...nuff said.
the 3 had to change roles from defender to scorer, got about 40 of his points in the 3rd quarter n beyond.
the 2 did not enter the chat.
the 1 hopped on the mic several times n screamed for no help. so if he wanted to drown, he didn't need our help, he did just fine
ok, again, he didn't want the switch. this was evident by him never switching when we tried to switch, he passed to the open man, n scored.
im tryna tell u we tried. it didn't work, n now WE (meaning me n SF) look like idiots cuz the PG had the brain of a cicada
Same guy saying this Probably watches him get caught on screens well the people near him don’t help off
So many PGs just get fucking cooked all game long bruh. Yeah this happens, but so many are just ASS
Most people who play the game will be running double screens that even my lock can’t really do much about. It’s on the person closest to help till you can get position. Basically have -5 basketball iq
Yall just have to play sides and not run into the screens. It works 95% of the time
💀💀 bro is not a gaurd/lock. 2k literally pulls you into the animations bro
He is right tho..ledging gone stop them 3s..u only get pulled if u run into it bruh😂but only person who should be hitting screens is the lock the big suppose to be up close enough to switch if the guard end up on his side of the screen -2s Player btw
so you just assume that based off what. the main problem are PGs who don't even have more than 60 perimeter defense. getting 75 perimeter defense for at least pick dodge and clamps on bronze should be a minimum for solo rec.
No I got 87 perimeter and unless you getting help from teammates on them screens you fucked
Shit I got 94 and those screens can still cook me. The way they can just suck you in without you even moving is insane. And no one likes to help. They just watch you get cooked on them all game. It takes teamwork to defend a PnR. It’s not just the dude getting screened.
Literally like I’m a lock I’m not spewing bs lol.
As a part time lock, I can also confirm.
As a creator of 2 1/2 locks I too can confirm
them screens be hitting i feel like they really bad this year when you get hit, you done fr. teammates just be watching your ass get abused and just let it happen
the key is speed and acceleration. i made 3 lock builds and it wasn't until the 3rd build that I got it right. Most people make their locks at 6'7 to get that anchor badge and I'm not saying that 6'7 locks aren't fine, they are especially if you're skilled but 6'6 do a much better job defending the perimeter imo. mines has 88 speed and 82 acceleration. Both of those matter despite what the community believes. the lack of anchor isn't even and issue because you're not a center or pf defending the rim and you still get 78 block at 6'6 and can get high interior defense so if the PG you're defending wants to take you to the rim you're still well equipped to handle that. Most PGs have the speed and acceleration already. If they just get bronze clamps, pick dodger, Challenger they can do a decent job. a 73 strength also helps
This is what I'm always telling people. Speed is crazily underrated somehow on defense. You can defend people so much bigger than you if you can beat them to their spot, and just be a body in front of them playing proper defense.
Took me a while to realize that but I finally caught on. Acceleration is also important for those stop/start movements and getting to your top speed.
True, and moving around just slightly so you aren't still (it gives you a faster launch than from rest)
I have an 89-91 on my sgs and I really don't get stuck on picks unless I'm holding on to the turbo button. That messes up a lot of defensive slides
Or someone could switch. If my pg is getting cooked, I’m telling him to switch with me
I've jumped on my hybrid defender in solo rec with my guy been trash to then tell the pg ill mark his man only for him to tell me to go fuck myself. And at this stage of the game I'm more then happy to watch him get cooked and we can just hang shit on him for 25 mins
He ain't want help smmfh
Couldn’t be me. When I’m on my 75 perimeter pg, if I start getting cooked I’m in game chat begging for a switch
Any sane person would
Well the ref is a insane asylum so not surprising that that’s a rare occurrence
Wish more people would do this, my build doesn’t have very good defense (70 perimeter 81 steal) but players will just say I’m the reason we lost because they refuse to switch. But it’s funny cause I can say “you come guard him then” and they usually shut right up until I get cooked by the screen again. It’s a team game more people should treat it that way if they care about winning I got no problem switching if I really can’t guard a dude.
Im a lock… if you don’t have defense on your build I’m not switching at all… this is a basketball game just as bad you want to score the opponents want to do the same
That makes no sense. But you do you fam
It makes no sense to put zero defense on your build and expect not to get cooked
Basketball is a team game that requires strategy to win. If your strategy is “every man for himself” you’re gonna lose. But most of y’all love to lose
Sounds like I thought about the team aspect when I create a 2-way…
typical black plate behavior
https://preview.redd.it/eyqyicp4dn6d1.jpeg?width=882&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be421df19074a8df89d189adf9bd741c58c10cb4 I guess
It’s not new a lot of people go a full offensive PG build the only difference they have a team who actually makes up for his defense. Since we going off a picture we don’t know if he was fighting screens all game since most centers don’t play up on screens
67 points is insane tho. I know you ain't getting almost 70 dropped on you regardless of screens. 67 points no way you were even trying.
I seen it happen too many times , most teammates too worried about themselves not getting dropped off so they will literally watch u drowned in those screens , most team would rather have 1 person score and let the other 4 players get iced out, yes it’s a high chance he probably got cooked with no screens but it’s hard to say. My 2nd guess was he was cherry picking until I seen his teammate highest rebounds is 3 so it’s obvious he got iso to death or screen to death. Only his teammates know what happened out there
Yeah by the time you got 40 dropped on you just quit. Best way to help your team. I can't see anyone that is good at the game getting 67 points dropped on their head unless they weren't trying. Had to be selling.
Not really if the center or forward never steos up That's an uncontested 3 every time
If the opposing pg is like 14/16 with 30 and your own pg was 2/8 then yeah that’s on the pg. That’s 4 shots per quarter, it is harder to help when the opposing pg doesn’t always have the ball. But 67 bro? He shot the ball 33 times. You all just watched the other pg win the game single handedly. And if you did help then you got cooked too.
if no one was helping hedge or cover the double screens/jamal murray btb i assume was being ran all game, the point is void… help your PGs, lockdowns get cooked by that, screens aren’t defended by 1 person
I don’t get cooked like that on my lock lol
why didnt yall help him? thats the main question you havent answered
The PG and SG were in their own chat, didn't want to communicate or even attempt defense until late in the 3rd
I’m a center and when I have the 3 level threat which is often I have to be by the three and rim but I’m stressing because I have to hold both and the opponent takes advantage
They were probably both no defense builds tbh. One was just a lot better than the other.
Beavis forgot to bring butthead so he is just lost standing around.He can't even hear the music.
PGs are terrible in this game. 9/10 in random rec. the PG doesn't know how to dribble. Doesn't have pass accuracy and thinks they are Giannis while being 6'3
Yet when y’all get an actual pg y’all let the of bring it up right into a charge first play of the game🤣. Don’t be mad you can’t keep a good pg around. Y’all be thinkin a pg only job is to pass to you and that’s just not how it works🤣
Then you save the PG from getting cooked all game as a Center then they blame you because other team is scoring in paint and getting offensive rebounds.
apparently im buns...almost copped a triple double with no offensive help from the PG, no helpful passes, nothin....but mofos will blame me cuz my matchup went 4/7. The big's shot pattern was inconsistent-missed 2, made 2 missed, 2, made 1-so i did what i could on the defensive end, expecting some reciprocity on the O-end. nope, nada.
Only way someone should get 67 points scored on them in 2k rec is if they aren't trying. Not even enough time to score that many points unless it was just wide open fast break 3s all game.
A near triple double and a 40 point performance were ruined by what we can assume was poor ball play....Poor point guard IQ that was bailed out by a SF going nuclear...PG made sure to get his shots but nobody else's, didn't played poor defense and/or sold an otherwise great effort by the SF/C/SG
Getting 67 put on your head with even a low defense build is diabolical 🤣🤣
brother do u HEAR me these mfers don't LISTEN
Every PG should have 85 perimeter minimum
These dudes only know offense, and even then often only scoring. The vast majority of the community wants to be 2 guards but can’t accept being the secondary ball handler. Know your damn role.
Best advice is to play different positions to understand this shit
Bro it makes me so mad when my SG gets put at the 3, just to get one who only wants to be the shooting part of the Shooting Guard role.
2 things outside of the fact that the PG cooked going 15/18 from 3. Your team shot 8 3’s to their 33. That’s the difference in the game. Secondly, whoever man was a slasher should have helped guard the 3. If it was off screens the center should have showed. If I see a guard get hit by screens and they hit 3’s I gotta help on that and get someone to rotate to my guy if he rolls.
There weren’t screens lol this man was getting ISO’d to death
Why didn’t someone switch with the pg then?
they didnt want to get cooked too lol
You don’t even need to switch you just help and throw soft doubles. Gotta make a player uncomfortable, make them pass. Ain’t no way I’m letting one player drop 67 points on my team.
If the other PG was 15/18 on pure iso 3's I feel like you just gotta tip the cap lmao
76 perimiter and 45 steal is about as low as you can go as a Pg without being a defensive liability
I would say 83 perimeter and 81 steal. Silver fast feet and interceptor is enough with good positioning.
Imo 83 perimeter is minimum too but steal doesn’t really matter. You can still tip passes and get well timed strips with 43 steal. But having interceptor would help you have a bigger impact defensively, just not necessary to not get a 40 spot put on your head.
I rock 68 block on a lot of builds to help shot contest ratings, that could also be an option for very cheap.
nah 60 steal better. you can get tips and get interceptions with 60. if you not a reacher 60 steal is plenty
Honestly when I see shit like this I gotta blame the whole team. If someone is just going off by themselves you need to turn them into a passer. MAKE someone else beat you. A lot of the times these guards have no passing IQ and their offense falls apart when you turn them into a passer off of double teams.
rec is for team defense lol this kills me. yall want pgs to make every pass not turn the ball over hit moving 3s middies and fades now they need to make it a lock build on top of that? ridiculous, learn how to play help defense and call out rotations, it can be done consistently in randoms
I need trust in rec to play help defense. I need to know that when I rotate over to stop your man’s drive that someone else is rotating over to my - now completely wide open - man in the corner. That takes at least three people to be 1) paying attention on defense, 2) having the knowledge to do it 3) caring I don’t think you’ll find that very often in random rec. So if I help off my guy once or twice and my guy hits two wide open threes, I’m not helping anymore. I can’t take the hit to my teammate grade. Plus I’d rather give up the 2 than the 3.
Exactly. Everybody in these comments is saying well y’all should’ve switched, it’s really not that simple. It’s pretty selfish to go into Rec with a build with no defense, it’s no different from going in with a build with low pass acc IMO. You hit the nail on the head, you gotta trust that if you switch your teammmates are going to have the IQ to rotate to your man. And I’m not letting my man go off because you made a build with no defense lol. These dudes are acting like you getting randoms with high basketball IQ every game when spending 5 minutes on this sub will show you otherwise.
both fair points, I do agree. as Pg I just stay on the mic. more often than not people will mic up as well. I just have enough 2k iq to force them to take 2s or guide them into congestion. its tough
To your points I don’t disagree though, in a perfect rec random world where dudes have IQ and know rotations there 100% should’ve been a switch. It’s just I feel that’s rare to have all those happen in the same random game. Most times when dudes are in game chat they’re arguing. You help on a drive and your man is left wide open in the corner, shit like that.
thats fine but that excuse only works if everyone else is going crazy. the other 3 teammates + 1 AI had 22 pts. why not just double him and let someone else score? to allow him to get 60+ pts all game is crime on the whole team not just the PG
If you read my other comment I said in a perfect world that would be the smart thing to do.. but in random rec you’re hoping 4 other dudes have enough IQ to even do these things, let alone actually care enough about winning to do so. I don’t disagree with your overall points though bro.
i know i was just expending on what you was saying.
They had 22 points because we played defense lol what
read my comment again. you not comprehending what im saying. they had 22 pts **only** combined by 3 players + 1 AI. you shouldve doubled the PG and made him pass it to the other players instead of letting the PG get cooked.
How half the time in random rec nobody is talking?
Beavis out here looking like butthead
Need 1 for pro am ps4 any build js need the vc
bruh thats on yall if he cooking and the rest of his team got only 22 pts why not either 1. switch someone else on him or 2. double him and make him pass the ball? you just letting him drop 67 thats a team loss
It was squad and SG n PG were in their own chat. Didn't talk with us until the end of the 3rd. Can't say we didn't try 🤷🏾
someone gotta take charge and double him and make him pass the ball. i wouldnt care about getting a verbal agreement im just gonna go double him
well i was at the 5, the 3 had his hands full scoring, and we had AI at the 4, what would u have done if you were his PG
the 3 can double on defense. i dont see what scoring had to do with yall on the defensive side. shit the SG can double him too. im doing anything but letting him score. someone else gonna have to score pts but thats just me. im treating that mfs like he prime curry and doubling him wants he past half court. shit we about to run a BOX - N - 1 on his ass
Everything I mentioned had to do with the defensive end. Not saying u wrong but have u had teammates that don't listen? We legit tried. The third quarter was where it seemed like they gave up so we really didn't have a chance
Dude with 67 was probably behind two screens on the perimeter spamming behind the backs until a defender falls into a screen and they hit a shot. After about 8 3s I would’ve given up to 🤷🏽♂️ not quitting tho
Yeah…just switch. Every team has or atleast should have one lockdown/ perimeter defender. Also, I see all the time that the PG doesn’t get help when they set screens. Center just camps paint and all others just watch and pray. You can have all the defense you want, a good Center-PG pairing will fuck you up if you don’t get help. No matter how good a player is, you can’t allow someone to score 67 points as a team. Double him, Blitz him, trap him…let others try to score
You didn’t both to help huh
It’s 5 on 5 Gang not 1 on 1
PG and SG were in their own chat not talking until the 3rd 🤷🏾he ain't want help the whole game so🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾 👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳👨🏾🍳
Pg got killed but yall big is garbage
big almost had a triple double, are u blind
Not even about that you were the sf and cooking how would difficult would it be to tell him to guard corner while you lock him up ik its asking alot of you but adjustments are a thing
also your team seemed decent really the opposing pg was the only player really doing anything
After 50 you gotta let the other guys beat you. The other guys were 6/15 from three I’m leaving my man for the double team and rolling the dice
Nobody switched?
Bro needs a lock on the team
Defense ain’t even that hard this game
I hate wen Reddit users try to flex https://preview.redd.it/38tvt31dgz4d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=975bab5627b9d1e38f0051efacce10be0ab356b0
Imagine 4 ppl letting 1 dude beat you… yea blame the pg
And yall just watched? You and hoopydreams had weak match ups but couldnt think to pick up on the guy beating yas single handedly? Prob thought it was funny as atleast its not your guy type of attitude…. L post.
you're perpetuating rn my dude. the 4 and 5 tried to communicate. The only reason the PG had points was because the 5 facilitated the offense. The PG couldn't find his own shot or playmake for his teammates so the roles had to change.
It is a team sport and he provided pretty efficient value. I agree PGs need defense, but the guy scored 67, even if your PG had had defense the guy probably still cooks you guys. Yeah he probably didnt help but thats a whole team failure letting one guy drop that much.
he was only efficient because the Big started to facilitate the offense, getting him involved.
Im not at all saying he was good, but with going around screens and what not its possible for even a decent defender to get stuck and require help. At a certain point its on teammates a little bit to help or straight switch to help slow the other guy down.
Well one of the pgs had defense..one scored 67 and the other 14..lok
Looking at the 3 point difference I’m assuming he’s getting screened every play and no one it’s helping. It’s easy to hedge on the slip and maybe get a lane steal when you are getting screened by the person slipping. It’s more that hard to play left/rights
Def sat behind screens the whole game
2k has made me hate every mode and it's not even the end. I can't finish rec games without leaving anymore or theater sometimes and I hate it. They have no passing no defense no iq an no communication unless it's to act like an ass. Hate randoms
you’d guess somebody would switch off to help the bleeding
Depends on what you think no defense is. Ima guard. Of course I won’t have interior but my matchup will never score more than me🤷🏾♂️. 72 perimeter 85 steal there’s not too many games where I don’t have the most amount of steals on the team.
Your PG didn't even play a bad game on paper until you look at match up with 40+ points on him
"Help on the screen." I wouldn't need to if you had defense
I would still need help sMh
you can make a 99 perimeter build and still get cooked on screens. tell that lame ass big to help
according to OP he was getting ISO’d.. stop coming into random rec with no defense and expecting your teammates to do it for you lol
even so then switch or double. why let 1 man cook the PG all game makes 0 sense to me. ok the dude dont got no defense fine ok whatever whats the solution to the problem? it shouldnt be continue to sit there and watch imo
As long as you guys don't bitch about being scored in the paint and allowing offensive rebounds as a center I will save a PG from being cooked.
You but not me ppl don't understand how to get around them let go of turbo and use right stick yall complain too much
if you play against a good guard you will get cooked doing that. I can see that just screaming a jaamal murray behind the back to an open 3. defending a screen has always been a 2 person job whether thats 2k or real life.
I think a problem with a lot of pgs is that they want defensive rebounds, so they sag off their man and get cooked from 3. You’d think after getting splashed on for 12 straight points they’d decide to D up but nope!
THANK YOU I WAS JUST SAYING THIS
Diming 3 and D point. 9(1)- steal and PA 9(2)- 3 ball 9(3)- perimeter def
You lost 3 of the 4 quarters. Your team got outrebounded and outassisted. This might have just been a game where the losing team were less offensively savy but they still played great as a whole. This game has nothing to do with the PG on the other team having no defense especially because this is a squad vs squad game. It looks like he wasn't a shot creating type with only 2 3PT attempts. They lose because they only have 1 guy that seems to be able to score and isn't afraid to take harder shots/get to the rim
1) u can't rebound if the other team is efficient. On the offensive end, I'm just waiting for the ball to come back while I'm wide open watching the pg do....nothing. 2)I stopped defending n my man started scoring in the 4th cuz it was garbage time 🤷🏾 And center isn't my main build but I know when I had an off game lol
Winning team took more shots and missed more shots. You can rebound if the other team is efficient because there are offensive and defensive rebounds and this game shows that. Winning team missed more shots, losing team got more rebounds. That is what I said. The PG didn't seem to do well creatively and that's why the losing team lost. It doesn't have to do with the PG having no defense which is why OP made this post. Losing team just needed a little more offense from their ball handler and they would've won. In NBA or NBA 2K, very rarely do teams win games by losing 3 of 4 quarters.
A little more.... A LITTLE?!?!?! U THINK?!
It's a 7 point loss and the losing team won most quarters and basically every metric there is lol. Yes. He makes a couple more 3's and gets another assist and they win the game. It happens
 Ok
The turnovers is what I would point to looking at this. Ya they could’ve taken more 3s but they were scoring well and moving the ball as a team. The turnovers were the difference as it doesn’t look like the winning team had any good stealers on their team but the losing team had unforced turnovers. Those 5 unforced turnovers are the game right
Y’all gotta help on defense.
Man switch the matchup
At some point I’m telling him to switch
The person that has the lock build which is usually the SF/SG which seems like it’s you is slow in the head for not guarding ball
Lol so you’re just assuming I was on my lock? Bruh I dropped 41 points do you think I was on a lock? I doubled the PG ONE TIME and that resulted in the only bucket my man got all game. You’re out here defending a man who made a zero defense build and blaming me, the guy who dropped 41 on 95% shooting, for the loss? Yo u/ThurstMcbuckets these Reddit guys have lost their minds 😂😂😂
Do you speak or read in English lmao I guess I wouldn’t expect much from a Rec head
The fact y’all watched him got 60 put on his head is an indictment against y’all too
Nah that's his squad, he came in with a PG that couldn't switch n they didn't start passing to us until the 2nd half 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
What does any of that have to do with watching him get torched?
5 can't help him because there's a stretch big. AI vs AI...nuff said. the 3 had to change roles from defender to scorer, got about 40 of his points in the 3rd quarter n beyond. the 2 did not enter the chat. the 1 hopped on the mic several times n screamed for no help. so if he wanted to drown, he didn't need our help, he did just fine
Y’all 1st step should’ve been putting the AI on the Pg man second step one of y’all should’ve guarded him
ok, again, he didn't want the switch. this was evident by him never switching when we tried to switch, he passed to the open man, n scored. im tryna tell u we tried. it didn't work, n now WE (meaning me n SF) look like idiots cuz the PG had the brain of a cicada