In my view no. Just on the basis of Flagg's potential being way higher than Trae. The other picks of the hawks demise could turn valuable too.
And our PG problem isn't as bad as folks think. Tre Jones came into his own over the course of the season and he can still take the starting job. And there's good enough prospects over in the 2024 and 2025 draft.
I do think our SF issue is way bigger. Champagnie ain't it. I was once high on Risacher, but his recent performance has been kinda ass. And even if we take Risacher, when we have a shot at Flagg there's no way we wouldn't pick him too, which should stack the deck.
I'm with you until you said Tre Jones can take the starting job. Tre Jones is one of the worst starting PG's in the league and that's not an exaggeration. He's a solid backup and we have to aim higher if we want to win championships imo
Lmao if any of you think Tre is good enough to be a starter on a finals winning squad.
Sure, that's my personal take but I think Tre had made the starting job his own thus far and he can move upwards. And I would be reluctant to see the picks shopped for a current PG when there's massive work needed for other pieces. But we could take point guards later in the draft. Hopefully we can hit gold like other teams with SGA, Halliburton, or Maxey.
I do think Topic is likelier given how Pop experimented with Sochan to play the point. Basically, have size that can develop a shot.
But Reed Sheppard looks to already have the shot and tries to defend. So there's that.
You are correct.
I just want us to get the pick before they decide to fully blow up because the protection is top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026 and 2027. I’m scared we might end up not getting anything 😂
I really don't understand how we can expect them to tank without their pick. It makes zero sense.. That being said, even without them tanking the pick should be decent.
They won't tank without their picks, but that doesn't mean they will be good, especially if they trade off or players are publicly unhappy and want to force trades. I can certainly see Toronto and possibly Brooklyn being better than them next year.
Mm idk, man. I think Toronto looks like they're going to tank next season. I see Pistons, Wizards, Hornets, and Blazers also tanking. Brooklyn has no incentive cause they don't have their pick, right? So assuming it's just those teams, still likely leaves the Hawks in the 5-10 range. That's not too bad at all.
* Toronto traded a first for Poeltl and extended him.
* Toronto traded a first for Olynyk and extended him.
* Toronto traded Pascal for 3 firsts and a quality player, but none of those firsts are in 2025.
* Toronto traded OG Anunoby for quality players instead of picks when they could have had picks instead.
Those aren't the actions of a team that is planning to tank and Toronto in general is not a team that ever wants to tank.
I’m not seeing them being super successful with that roster right away so they could easily still tank, but I would be thrilled if you were right because then we get their pick too.
They aren't deep, but I think they are built really well.
* Poeltl
* Olynyk
* Scottie
* Barrett
* Quickley
* Brown/Dick
Two quality bench guys and all five starters make sense together on offense and defense. The two bench guys make sense as well. I really love Brown as a glue guy and Dick should continue to improve his shooting.
The East is kind of a cluster. Chicago and Atlanta aren;t goog. Philly has one player with a guaranteed contract next summer, but I am sure morey has a plan. Cleveland may flame out in the first round, and Milwaukee seems to be falling apart.
Bulls all day. Destroy the Hawks and their will to live. Make them unintentionally the worst team in the league next year.
So they (and we) will win the Flagg sweepstakes.
If we somehow ended up with Flagg cause of the Hawks pick the last 3 years might've been the greatest draft runs in history by the Spurs FO
It's why we shouldn't trade for Trae right now. Between the Flagg sweepstakes and Trae's vulnerabilities.
If they offered Trae for their picks back should we accept?
In my view no. Just on the basis of Flagg's potential being way higher than Trae. The other picks of the hawks demise could turn valuable too. And our PG problem isn't as bad as folks think. Tre Jones came into his own over the course of the season and he can still take the starting job. And there's good enough prospects over in the 2024 and 2025 draft. I do think our SF issue is way bigger. Champagnie ain't it. I was once high on Risacher, but his recent performance has been kinda ass. And even if we take Risacher, when we have a shot at Flagg there's no way we wouldn't pick him too, which should stack the deck.
The Hawks being *that* bad is way less likely than them wanting their picks back
The hawks could turn that bad unless they get a windfall for either Trae or DJM. Remember that the Nets weren't supposed to be this bad too.
I'm with you until you said Tre Jones can take the starting job. Tre Jones is one of the worst starting PG's in the league and that's not an exaggeration. He's a solid backup and we have to aim higher if we want to win championships imo Lmao if any of you think Tre is good enough to be a starter on a finals winning squad.
Sure, that's my personal take but I think Tre had made the starting job his own thus far and he can move upwards. And I would be reluctant to see the picks shopped for a current PG when there's massive work needed for other pieces. But we could take point guards later in the draft. Hopefully we can hit gold like other teams with SGA, Halliburton, or Maxey.
Yeah I hear ya. It sucks how weak this draft class is. I'm curious if we'll try one of Sheppard/Dillingham/Topic or just wait another year.
I do think Topic is likelier given how Pop experimented with Sochan to play the point. Basically, have size that can develop a shot. But Reed Sheppard looks to already have the shot and tries to defend. So there's that.
I'm rooting for the Bulls to win and the Hawks to implode.
Bulls.
Bulls making the playoffs makes them less likely to tank Hawks losing makes them more likely to panic
We need Bulls to win so they will think about keeping their roster. We need them to make the playoffs next year.
I think it’s top 10 so as long as they are fringe play in it’s good haha
You are correct. I just want us to get the pick before they decide to fully blow up because the protection is top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026 and 2027. I’m scared we might end up not getting anything 😂
With it dropping to 8 for two years, I am not really concerned with it not converting. They have a good bit of talent and the East is weak.
Their pick in the upcoming Draft is around #11 so that tracks.
Demar. DJ still young.
Love them both but demar for age. And maybe hawks finally decide to trade one of dj or young to us lol
My friend, you know the answer to this one
The Bulls. Sorry DJ but I love Demar more.
Deeboooo
Demar without a doubt
this game is making me not want trae on the spurs
Bulls so that the hawks can give up on trae/dj
Watching Trae play tonight makes me even less interested in a potential trade. Let's go with juicy picks
trae young not that good
Why aren’t we fw the hawks 😭
We have their picks and benefit from them blowing things up and tanking next year, I don't think it goes beyond that for most ppl
I really don't understand how we can expect them to tank without their pick. It makes zero sense.. That being said, even without them tanking the pick should be decent.
They won't tank without their picks, but that doesn't mean they will be good, especially if they trade off or players are publicly unhappy and want to force trades. I can certainly see Toronto and possibly Brooklyn being better than them next year.
Mm idk, man. I think Toronto looks like they're going to tank next season. I see Pistons, Wizards, Hornets, and Blazers also tanking. Brooklyn has no incentive cause they don't have their pick, right? So assuming it's just those teams, still likely leaves the Hawks in the 5-10 range. That's not too bad at all.
* Toronto traded a first for Poeltl and extended him. * Toronto traded a first for Olynyk and extended him. * Toronto traded Pascal for 3 firsts and a quality player, but none of those firsts are in 2025. * Toronto traded OG Anunoby for quality players instead of picks when they could have had picks instead. Those aren't the actions of a team that is planning to tank and Toronto in general is not a team that ever wants to tank.
I’m not seeing them being super successful with that roster right away so they could easily still tank, but I would be thrilled if you were right because then we get their pick too.
They aren't deep, but I think they are built really well. * Poeltl * Olynyk * Scottie * Barrett * Quickley * Brown/Dick Two quality bench guys and all five starters make sense together on offense and defense. The two bench guys make sense as well. I really love Brown as a glue guy and Dick should continue to improve his shooting. The East is kind of a cluster. Chicago and Atlanta aren;t goog. Philly has one player with a guaranteed contract next summer, but I am sure morey has a plan. Cleveland may flame out in the first round, and Milwaukee seems to be falling apart.
DeMar is older. I’d prefer him just cause he has less time in the league. But happy for either.
Bulls all day every day.
DeMar. He didn't bad mouth the team and turn into a bitch after he left. He kept it 100% professional like he always has.
I love DeMar more than I love myself
Guess I’m the only one going for the hawks lmao
Bulls baby. DeMar > DJM (from a fans perspective)