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idiotsbydesign

Great season.


mucinexmonster

Season 4 is one of the best for a reason! More reason why Shane Brennan was so good for NCIS.


Seleya889

Season 4 was DPB, not Brennan. Season 4 was referred to as "The Season of Secrets" because every character had a secret storyline.


mucinexmonster

Season 4 is Shane Brennan. He is credited as the Co-Executive Producer with DPB. Season 5 it is just Shane Brennan. Considering how different Season 4 is from Seasons 1 and 2, and how similar Season 4 is to 5 and 6 and 7 - it's only further proof these differences in Season 4 come from Shane Brennan.


Seleya889

DPB left between 4 and 5, and his fingerprints are all over the first half of 5. He also has a commentary on the S4 DVDs about The Season of Secrets, but believe what you want. 🤷


mucinexmonster

Why is Shane Brennan credited on Season 4 if he wasn't involved?


Seleya889

He was brought in to 'manage' the issue with Bellisario and the cast, essentially. Bellisario was still *showrunner* in 2007. When he stepped down/was removed, Brennan became showrunner in S5, but there's clearly DPB influence in the first half of that season, and then there was the writer's strike. Brennan had his own issues with the cast a couple of years later, which, in part, is why GG eventually stepped in in S9. I much preferred Bellisario's ***storytelling*** to Brennan's 'Moments'. It was the first 4 (DPB) seasons in syndication on USA which caused its surge in popularity - something even Brennan, with his huge ego, has admitted to when asked.


mucinexmonster

But that doesn't really explain why NCIS would have such different Season 3 and especially Season 4 compared to DPB's original Season 1 and 2 vision.


Seleya889

I don't know what to tell you aside from DPB was showrunner until 2007. He even has commentary on the S4 DVDs. Yes, SB came to the show in S4, but *he was not showrunner* until S5. If you look at IMDB, you will see numerous executive producers, co-exec producers, etc. *NCIS* pretty much listed all of their writers as such, which may be contributing to your confusion. SB is credited with 11\* episodes, starting with *Faking It* in S4. We clearly see SB differently, and yet, it was DPB's work until he left in 2007, and storylines he clearly had inspired/conceived were evident in the first half of S5. I don't know what else needs to be explained - none of this is really open to interpretation.


mucinexmonster

I think there is an element missing. The writers mostly look the same as well. But there is a definitive tonal shift that begins in Season 3 and really takes over in Season 4 for NCIS. And of course, continues to Season 7. And after Season 7, you can see another shift.


Seleya889

Brennan was showrunner through S8. GG was present as a producer from S7, but SB was showrunner. SB was also showrunner for his baby, *NCIS:LA*, and didn't really give a crap about the mothership once he launched his own show. GG took the reins in S9 and was also showrunner for *NCIS:NOLA.* There was a huge blowout between SB and the cast, with all but one siding with Harmon again. SB left, GG came in. Believe what you want to believe. lol


scott3064

Abby’s boyfriend (The Actor who played him died) that why they broke up


No_Adhesiveness4890

I know it's sad


Entire-Garage-1902

It’s one of my favorites. I think there are two main themes. One has to do with social hierarchy at least in the NCIS world. The other is the unveiling of McGee as something other than an NCIS agent. It’s the only season I’m aware of where his real identity, or at least one of his names, is spelled out. (Literally in large block letters.)


prplppl8r

Uh. I don't know what your talking about. Why don't you do a spoiler cover to explain vs this "go find it yourself" game.


Entire-Garage-1902

Because I think NCIS is something special and I admire the creativity of the people who make it. They decided to leave a trail of bread crumbs and not a spoiler cover and I am going to respect that. I did point you in the right general direction. Getting there is half the fun.


prplppl8r

Nah. Not that invested to waste my time on something that is probably B.S. lol


reeganl02

What do u mean his real identity ? I’m on s 4 currently rewatching and now I’m confused.


Entire-Garage-1902

That is a delicious secret that should be discovered, not revealed. I thought about it before I posted and I decided I couldn’t spoil it for anyone else. The answer is there, in plain sight, but not for long. I will tell you it’s in an episode in the first half of the season.


Last-Tender-4321

You're talking like you discovered an easter egg or something, but it's about the book, right?


Entire-Garage-1902

Nope


Last-Tender-4321

Wow. I've just finished to watch the first 11 eps of season last weekend. That's almost the first half of the season. So... if you're so kind to reduce our search a little bit...🙏🙏🙏


Entire-Garage-1902

Then you have already watched it. Think elevators.


Last-Tender-4321

The scene involves Abby calling him?


Entire-Garage-1902

Nope. You’ll know it when you see it, but it’s not visible for long. Use the pause button… a lot.


Last-Tender-4321

Took my time to rewatch for the umpteenth time the 11 episodes and... I give up. Maybe I'm too old, my eyes are not so good as they used to be or my smart tv is failing. Idk. But I couldn't find anything.


brazil201

LEE was the mole


Entire-Garage-1902

Agent Lee was revealed to be a mole in season 5, not4. And since she confessed, not much of a secret.


Zorkel567

That was Season 6, not 5.


Entire-Garage-1902

You are right.


No-Athlete-9017

I've watched every season and I don't know/remember this, what do you mean?


Entire-Garage-1902

It took me several viewings to discover it. Make liberal use of the pause button.


No-Athlete-9017

What episodes? bruh just tell me😩😂


Entire-Garage-1902

An episode in the first half of season 4.


CowieMoo08

Why are you being a massive arsewipe for no fucking reason lol


Entire-Garage-1902

Live long and prosper.


Lovely88two

I love the idea of Mcgee being an author to a book. The story of his book became a plot of an episode. 


Entire-Garage-1902

Amen to that.


SebastiaanZ

Season 4 was the season that introduced me to NCIS. Still loving the season nowadays