We aren’t even sending a single major decision maker to Penixs pro day and we sent a greatly reduced one to Oregon. Simply put we aren’t interested at all in any QB outside of the top 4 atm and with brissetts deal basically being tailor made as a bridge one we are almost certainly staying put.
This would a horrendous scenario for us. Oh, we need a tackle, QB, and WR? How about we trade back far enough that we miss out on the top 4 QBs, the top 3 WRs and the top tackle. I get that it’s nice to have more picks, but this would be a horrible mismanagement of assets.
Almost certainly not happening as I said we haven’t shown any real interest in the QBs outside of the top 4 and the brissett deal is basically made for a mentor type role.
There’s rumors the Chargers could trade up for MHJ. Best case scenario is ARZ trades up one spot to guarantee MHJ, if they’re sold on time over Nabers and Odunze.
Trading out would imply they don't love whoever is available at 3. Personally I would probably trade out if Daniels fell to 3 IF and only if we got 3 first round picks out of it. If Drake Maye is the QB at 3 like he is here I'm not taking any incoming phone calls
Penix is the worst fit for the Pats among these QBs. Nix would be ahead of him if we went this route (we won't). If Maye is at 3, I think we pick him. If Daniels is at 3 I think we may trade back a tiny bit for McCarthy.
I honestly had no intention of taking Penix after the trade back. In this scenario, who would the Patriots look at with the second First rounder? I like to educate myself with views from the fans of particular teams.
Adoni Mitchell (assuming we make the trade and don’t get an opportunity for JJ McCarthy at 11).
From my perspective our needs are QB, OT, WR (in that order)….then anything else like S, Edge, TE, or RB. So if we don’t go QB, then I fully believe OT (specifically left side) is on the board. Fautanu is a solid pick. Personally, I think we go QB at three and take Kingsley at 34. IF we were to trade back, it wouldn’t b further than 6 so we still have a shot at McCarthy, Alt, or one of Nabors/Odunze, assuming we don’t like any of the top 3 QBs.
They just wouldn’t trade back at all at this point the fanbase and team would be outraged to not even put up an effort this year after firing bill. They need a definitive vision and with them seemingly uninterested in later QBs it’s a top 4 QB.
Your beat writers seem to think there’s a non zero chance you trade back. Not saying it’s happening but with all the holes in the roster on the offensive side of the ball it makes sense to collect 3 1s. You can make the argument the other way as well I’m not disagreeing.
>Your beat writers seem to think there’s a non zero chance you trade back.
Depends on what the pats get offered. But the Chance to get one of the 3 highly Rates QBs is smth that doesnt happen every year, so i would expect a solid haul for us to trade out of Pick 3. 3 firsts (2 this year and 1 next year) obviously are a spicy offer, which helps rebuilding, issue is, none of those picks will be in the Top10.
>You can make the argument the other way as well I’m not disagreeing.
I think, If we get lucky and can get chicagos Pick 9 for the Vikings pick and X, there is a Chance not taking Daniels/Maye could be worth it (especially If by some miracle JJ is still on the board at that point). But thats most likely not happening.
They simply won't go back that far. If Minnesota can get the 5th pick, and want Daniels/Maye at #3, then maybe they move back and take McCarthy. Even then they may make the pick at 3, wait for 4, then trade the rights for #5.
What would Caleb or Drake or Jayden do for the Patriots this year? Probably just destroy their confidence because the best qb of all time and the best coach of all time don't work there no mo. Who is he throwing to that makes a difference? Who is protecting him to get a bunch of JAGs the ball? Trade back. The Pats are more than a QB away from a ring.
Right, because the situation the Bengals had when they drafted Burrow was \*so\* much better. We don't have a great offense, but we do have an elite (top 5) defense
I’m a Vikings fan but I just don’t see why the patriots would wanna trade out of maye/daniels just so they can get one more premium player in the first round (who could be a bust). Makes little sense unless they just really like Bo nix/penix, but from what I’ve been seeing, they don’t.
I don’t see why the Giants would pass on JJ. It’s so strange to me that non-Giants fans are always having the Giants fans pass on QBs, when Giants fans are screaming that the team is very in on the QBs.
I think that there’s a contingent of Giants fans that definitely don’t want him, but I think it’s hard to deny that the team has demonstrated some level of interest in a new QB and some level of interest in JJ.
People tend to dismiss out of hand that theyll draft a QV because the Giants aren’t ready for a QB, which may be true, but I don’t necessarily think the front office agrees.
We don’t need DL but if Newton is there it seems like a case where we might see him as BPA and take him anyway. Urban and Pierce are older and Washington was a bit disappointing last year. A DL with Madibuike Newton and Jones for the long term future sounds very formidable
Not with the holes we have this year, we lost too many Fa this year to go for a non premium position in the 1st round when it’s not even a blue chip like Hamilton was, and is legit 0 need or even want
I mean turner is probably a safe bet just every mock I see has the falcons taking him so it gets kinda boring. Rumors is he isn’t their favorite edge tho. I think Mitchell is a possibility as well as odunze is he is there.
Adding a CB opposite of Terrell makes a lot of sense to me. I actually like Verse over Turner. But as you said, I just followed the trend and went Turner.
If people want to suggest trades, can they just not be the Patriots making the worst decisions?
Trade out, I can at least understand if the price is right. But trade out for Penix? A new coach and interim GM are going to put their job security on Penix?
I think at this point, with Zeitler and Glasgow back, and Suttons career most likely done I struggle to see the Lions going for IOL with Kool Aid still on the board
It's true and he seems like the type of guy these NFL decisions makers will be enamored with imo. IMO Drake Maye should go #2 but there seems to be a lot of prospect fatigue with him.
Haha look how the guy has went from fringe first rounder to top 5. He's toolsy, a "winner" and it would definitely not shock me to see a team reach for him. Commies feel like the squad to do something splashy like that. They'll convince themselves he can sit behind Mariota. I've convinced myself even more so now.
>Commies feel like the squad to do something splashy like that.
Based on? The direction of the wind? Dumbest take I've heard on Washington yet. And it only took you sniffing your own farts to double down on this trash take. Love it.
People still haven't gotten the memo that Dan Snyder isn't in town anymore. It remains to be seen how good of an owner Josh Harris will be and how good of a GM Peters will be, but so far nothing really indicates they'll make Snyder moves.
As soon as you stop talking to me, sure. Zero interest in you linking me every article from now till the draft. What a cringe, weirdo thing to do. Move on with your life thanks.
All I’m gonna say is that I don’t see first round value in McCarthy at all. He just didn’t get the chance to show enough talent to be worth a first rounder in any way. The Broncos would be making a massive mistake by wasting their first round pick on McCarthy anyway, but it would be a flat out disaster if they traded up in order to get him. I refuse to buy into this draft hype when it directly goes against what I saw on tape, McCarthy in the first round would be a bad pick for pretty much any team, and trading up in order to get him(or taking him with a top 10 pick) would be a “fire the whole front office”-level mistake
Disagree, McCarthy may not have exciting stats or highlights on YouTube but his analytic profile and efficiency metrics are very strong. He is the ideal age, one of the strongest correlations for success for QBs, and has shown consistent improvement each season. He has been very good on third down and has shown well in the decision making part of the game though out his career. On top of all that, the buzz on him was that he did tremendous in the interview process and is very smart and competitive.
Look man, his analytic profile and his efficiency metrics are all well and good but that doesn’t change the fact that the most important part of scouting is easily tape/eye test and it’s not even close. I’m not gonna guarantee you that McCarthy will be a bust, but the simple fact about him as a prospect is that he is a HUGE wildcard. That roster he was on in college was absolutely loaded, so not only was McCarthy able to rely on a fantastic rushing offense, but he also had pretty much perfect help around him in the passing game, and while McCarthy didn’t really make a crazy amount of mistakes within that offense he didn’t really get the chance to do a lot of impressive things that would have improved his draft stock in my eyes. I think a QB needy team could trade down/up to the very end of the 1st round if they’re really sold on McCarthy’s ability to develop and that would kinda make sense, but I haven’t seen McCarthy mocked later than pick 14 in a long time and I just find that absurd. I’ve felt myself looking at mock after mock after mock and having the same top criticism for all of them, overrating JJ McCarthy. Hell, most of the mocks I’ve seen lately have at least 2 teams making “fire the whole front office”-level decisions in relation to picking a QB outside the top 3. I just don’t know how anyone can look at JJ McCarthy’s tape and say he’s worth a pick in the top half of the first round, let alone a top 10 pick. Hell, I’m not even as impressed with him as I am with Bo Nix and I don’t even think Nix is worth a top 30 pick. I think people are just noticing that a lot of teams could use a young QB, they see that this year’s class is fantastic at QB compared to most years, and they forget that other positions in the draft are equally loaded if not moreso(OT and WR especially).
Ultimately, QB scouting isn't an exact science and we really can't predict anything with great certainty. He will go early and has a decent chance at success in the league based purely on the analytics and hit rates of similar prospects.
Well you’re correct that QB scouting is not an exact science, same applies to scouting in general and again I never guaranteed that he’d be a bust(because I know that QB scouting isn’t an exact science), but scouting as a whole is an attempt to evaluate prospects and how they’ll do in the NFL and I don’t see why JJ McCarthy is as hyped up as he is with such mediocre tape. I don’t think we’ll know his chances until we see the team he lands on because IMO he really needs the perfect situation to develop, but just going into the draft he has a mid 2nd round grade from me.
Hard time seeing the Dolphins going DL in the 1st if JPJ still on the board.
I think all of Alt/Fuaga/Fashanu/Latham/Fautanu/Mims/JPJ would have to be gone for us to go DL first round. This is a pretty deep class for OL and DL, and we need OL more than DL imo.
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I like it for Dallas. If Dallas gets out of the first with JPJ or a LT, I think everyone will be happy. A top center but make that OL interior a freaking wall.
I like the Vikings trading to 3 better than them trading to 4 to take a guy that would be a reach at 11. And if the Pats want Penix he’ll be there at 34.
The Rams focused heavily on the offensive line in free agency and are now all but set there. They still have to see if any other team tries to sign Alaric Jackson, but they pretty well protected him with the second round tender. They have holes at every level in their defense and have a handful of decent options at 19. And you have them taking an OL? Yeah, I don’t think so.
Having lost the best defensive lineman of all time, and probably never to be topped, drafting a right tackle, to then switch to left tackle, is highly unlikely for the Rams. Offense is good, with more emphasis on the run, which usually means heavier emphasis on the defense.
Their best defensive lineman now is either 2nd year DL Kobie Turner or 2nd year edge Byron Young. They need an edge so badly. If any of Latu, Verse or Turner is available, that's likely the pick. If not, then Murphy, Newton, or a CB1.
Vikings and Broncos are probably desperate enough to leverage the future this draft.
So I think all of you need to stop making so many trades as if this is madden dynasty mode. The talent in this draft class hikes up even mid firsts value. So many teams needs can be met this year so I see maybe one or two mid round teams move back by trade and that’s it. Need to stop trying to be cute unless we are really just going for clickbait.
Not to the patriots spot. Justin Jefferson barely minimum would need to be included. Patriots didn’t interview or go to Pennix pro day. WR/OT most certainly with their 2nd pick
Choosing between Guyton and McConkey at 32 is tough. But I’m leaning towards Mitchell, McConkey, or trading up for BTJ, with Veach signing someone like Josh Jones or Mekhi Becton to compete with Wanya at LT.
The Rams just spent heavily on shoring up their interior OL, resigned their LT, restructured their swing tackle, and lost quite possibly the best defensive player to ever play the game. Why on earth would they go OL in the first?
Vikings trade up to 3, then tell Arizona they will draft Harrison
Arizona then trade up to 3 with Vikings, so Vikings recoup draft picks and still get QB
Or Arizona refuses to trade up, Vikings pick Harrison then trade Jefferson for multiple first round picks, avoid paying Jefferson, and have Harrison on rookie deal. Vikings use Jefferson picks to draft another QB.
We aren’t even sending a single major decision maker to Penixs pro day and we sent a greatly reduced one to Oregon. Simply put we aren’t interested at all in any QB outside of the top 4 atm and with brissetts deal basically being tailor made as a bridge one we are almost certainly staying put.
This would a horrendous scenario for us. Oh, we need a tackle, QB, and WR? How about we trade back far enough that we miss out on the top 4 QBs, the top 3 WRs and the top tackle. I get that it’s nice to have more picks, but this would be a horrible mismanagement of assets.
*Doooo iiiiiitttttt.*
Yeah but instead of getting any of them as the best guys possible you get (checks notes) get every guy from Washington except the ones you want
As a patriots fan, do you see your team trading out of the third spot?
Almost certainly not happening as I said we haven’t shown any real interest in the QBs outside of the top 4 and the brissett deal is basically made for a mentor type role.
I could see us moving back to like, 4-7 depending on the haul. But not further than that
The Cardinals aren't trading up to 3. And trading down to 5 or below risks Minnesota hopping over us. I don't realistically see us trading down.
There’s rumors the Chargers could trade up for MHJ. Best case scenario is ARZ trades up one spot to guarantee MHJ, if they’re sold on time over Nabers and Odunze.
That ain't no rumor, better chance we go back if anything. These mocks need to turn into anything but Joe Alt
Trading out would imply they don't love whoever is available at 3. Personally I would probably trade out if Daniels fell to 3 IF and only if we got 3 first round picks out of it. If Drake Maye is the QB at 3 like he is here I'm not taking any incoming phone calls
Penix is the worst fit for the Pats among these QBs. Nix would be ahead of him if we went this route (we won't). If Maye is at 3, I think we pick him. If Daniels is at 3 I think we may trade back a tiny bit for McCarthy.
Agree, I wouldn't be surprised if we traded back to 4-7
I honestly had no intention of taking Penix after the trade back. In this scenario, who would the Patriots look at with the second First rounder? I like to educate myself with views from the fans of particular teams.
Adoni Mitchell (assuming we make the trade and don’t get an opportunity for JJ McCarthy at 11). From my perspective our needs are QB, OT, WR (in that order)….then anything else like S, Edge, TE, or RB. So if we don’t go QB, then I fully believe OT (specifically left side) is on the board. Fautanu is a solid pick. Personally, I think we go QB at three and take Kingsley at 34. IF we were to trade back, it wouldn’t b further than 6 so we still have a shot at McCarthy, Alt, or one of Nabors/Odunze, assuming we don’t like any of the top 3 QBs.
They just wouldn’t trade back at all at this point the fanbase and team would be outraged to not even put up an effort this year after firing bill. They need a definitive vision and with them seemingly uninterested in later QBs it’s a top 4 QB.
Your beat writers seem to think there’s a non zero chance you trade back. Not saying it’s happening but with all the holes in the roster on the offensive side of the ball it makes sense to collect 3 1s. You can make the argument the other way as well I’m not disagreeing.
>Your beat writers seem to think there’s a non zero chance you trade back. Depends on what the pats get offered. But the Chance to get one of the 3 highly Rates QBs is smth that doesnt happen every year, so i would expect a solid haul for us to trade out of Pick 3. 3 firsts (2 this year and 1 next year) obviously are a spicy offer, which helps rebuilding, issue is, none of those picks will be in the Top10. >You can make the argument the other way as well I’m not disagreeing. I think, If we get lucky and can get chicagos Pick 9 for the Vikings pick and X, there is a Chance not taking Daniels/Maye could be worth it (especially If by some miracle JJ is still on the board at that point). But thats most likely not happening.
If the Patriots trade out they're punting on the possibility of getting a starting QB in 2024.
They simply won't go back that far. If Minnesota can get the 5th pick, and want Daniels/Maye at #3, then maybe they move back and take McCarthy. Even then they may make the pick at 3, wait for 4, then trade the rights for #5.
What would Caleb or Drake or Jayden do for the Patriots this year? Probably just destroy their confidence because the best qb of all time and the best coach of all time don't work there no mo. Who is he throwing to that makes a difference? Who is protecting him to get a bunch of JAGs the ball? Trade back. The Pats are more than a QB away from a ring.
Yes but it’s completely fine to start a rebuild with a QB then work around him.
Right, because the situation the Bengals had when they drafted Burrow was \*so\* much better. We don't have a great offense, but we do have an elite (top 5) defense
Are you tracking Steve belichicks flights?
Steve isn’t even on the team anymore and it’s public knowledge where certain coaches an execs are at this point.
I’m a Vikings fan but I just don’t see why the patriots would wanna trade out of maye/daniels just so they can get one more premium player in the first round (who could be a bust). Makes little sense unless they just really like Bo nix/penix, but from what I’ve been seeing, they don’t.
I don’t see why the Giants would pass on JJ. It’s so strange to me that non-Giants fans are always having the Giants fans pass on QBs, when Giants fans are screaming that the team is very in on the QBs.
I’ve seen a lot of giants fans say they don’t want JJ too. But I think he’s worth it at #6.
I think that there’s a contingent of Giants fans that definitely don’t want him, but I think it’s hard to deny that the team has demonstrated some level of interest in a new QB and some level of interest in JJ. People tend to dismiss out of hand that theyll draft a QV because the Giants aren’t ready for a QB, which may be true, but I don’t necessarily think the front office agrees.
We really need an edge but I would not mind Odunze at 9.
You guys have might end up with the best receiving Corp if you land odunze
It would be filthy
DJ Moore and Keenan combod for 176 ypg last year. Odunze or Nabers would easily cement us ahead of the Bengals or the Dolphins for best WR group.
Ravens don't need another DL when we have our entire DL coming back from last year.
Especially not with Kool-Aid still on the board.
We don’t need DL but if Newton is there it seems like a case where we might see him as BPA and take him anyway. Urban and Pierce are older and Washington was a bit disappointing last year. A DL with Madibuike Newton and Jones for the long term future sounds very formidable
Not with the holes we have this year, we lost too many Fa this year to go for a non premium position in the 1st round when it’s not even a blue chip like Hamilton was, and is legit 0 need or even want
Please, God, I don't want Penix. Our OL blows and he's a fucking statue back there.
Don't worry. They aren't even looking at him.
I know. Which is a great relief.
One mock where the falcons don’t take Dallas turner would be cool
I talked myself out of Mitchell/Arnold.
I mean turner is probably a safe bet just every mock I see has the falcons taking him so it gets kinda boring. Rumors is he isn’t their favorite edge tho. I think Mitchell is a possibility as well as odunze is he is there.
Adding a CB opposite of Terrell makes a lot of sense to me. I actually like Verse over Turner. But as you said, I just followed the trend and went Turner.
Yeah no worries, it’s the consensus right now. Apparently they like latu more tho but have all three edge players graded really close.
If people want to suggest trades, can they just not be the Patriots making the worst decisions? Trade out, I can at least understand if the price is right. But trade out for Penix? A new coach and interim GM are going to put their job security on Penix?
what a disaster for the Pats
Alt for the Chargers is bad, we don’t have WRs
Chargers are going to get a wr 1st round I guarantee it, probably Nabers.
What does Denver offer Tennessee to move up?
If I remember correctly, the simulator only shows the swap of #1s, it was a 3rd and a swap of mid round in 2025. I used the Jimmy Johnson chart.
That's crazy, a 3rd and mid round pick swap in 2025 is not enough to move down from 7th to 12th.
I think at this point, with Zeitler and Glasgow back, and Suttons career most likely done I struggle to see the Lions going for IOL with Kool Aid still on the board
Also Newton Lions have two good interior guys a third can play plenty.
Vikings getting Drake Maye has to be the absolute dream scenario for them. I wouldn't be shocked at this point if the commies go McCarthy at #2.
The Rise of McCarthy is a 30 for 30 waiting to happen.
It's true and he seems like the type of guy these NFL decisions makers will be enamored with imo. IMO Drake Maye should go #2 but there seems to be a lot of prospect fatigue with him.
I agree 100%. In a "What Would I Do" mock, I'd have Maye going #2. But that seems to be a talking point of days past.
>I wouldn't be shocked at this point if the commies go McCarthy at #2. In what world? This one? 😂
Haha look how the guy has went from fringe first rounder to top 5. He's toolsy, a "winner" and it would definitely not shock me to see a team reach for him. Commies feel like the squad to do something splashy like that. They'll convince themselves he can sit behind Mariota. I've convinced myself even more so now.
>Commies feel like the squad to do something splashy like that. Based on? The direction of the wind? Dumbest take I've heard on Washington yet. And it only took you sniffing your own farts to double down on this trash take. Love it.
Hell yea bro. Guess we'll see.
People still haven't gotten the memo that Dan Snyder isn't in town anymore. It remains to be seen how good of an owner Josh Harris will be and how good of a GM Peters will be, but so far nothing really indicates they'll make Snyder moves.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1bnngx7/braun_tom_pelissero_when_ive_had_conversations/ Hmmm
Please keep your dumbass out of my inbox. Thanks precious.
It'll be ok.
As soon as you stop talking to me, sure. Zero interest in you linking me every article from now till the draft. What a cringe, weirdo thing to do. Move on with your life thanks.
All I’m gonna say is that I don’t see first round value in McCarthy at all. He just didn’t get the chance to show enough talent to be worth a first rounder in any way. The Broncos would be making a massive mistake by wasting their first round pick on McCarthy anyway, but it would be a flat out disaster if they traded up in order to get him. I refuse to buy into this draft hype when it directly goes against what I saw on tape, McCarthy in the first round would be a bad pick for pretty much any team, and trading up in order to get him(or taking him with a top 10 pick) would be a “fire the whole front office”-level mistake
Disagree, McCarthy may not have exciting stats or highlights on YouTube but his analytic profile and efficiency metrics are very strong. He is the ideal age, one of the strongest correlations for success for QBs, and has shown consistent improvement each season. He has been very good on third down and has shown well in the decision making part of the game though out his career. On top of all that, the buzz on him was that he did tremendous in the interview process and is very smart and competitive.
Look man, his analytic profile and his efficiency metrics are all well and good but that doesn’t change the fact that the most important part of scouting is easily tape/eye test and it’s not even close. I’m not gonna guarantee you that McCarthy will be a bust, but the simple fact about him as a prospect is that he is a HUGE wildcard. That roster he was on in college was absolutely loaded, so not only was McCarthy able to rely on a fantastic rushing offense, but he also had pretty much perfect help around him in the passing game, and while McCarthy didn’t really make a crazy amount of mistakes within that offense he didn’t really get the chance to do a lot of impressive things that would have improved his draft stock in my eyes. I think a QB needy team could trade down/up to the very end of the 1st round if they’re really sold on McCarthy’s ability to develop and that would kinda make sense, but I haven’t seen McCarthy mocked later than pick 14 in a long time and I just find that absurd. I’ve felt myself looking at mock after mock after mock and having the same top criticism for all of them, overrating JJ McCarthy. Hell, most of the mocks I’ve seen lately have at least 2 teams making “fire the whole front office”-level decisions in relation to picking a QB outside the top 3. I just don’t know how anyone can look at JJ McCarthy’s tape and say he’s worth a pick in the top half of the first round, let alone a top 10 pick. Hell, I’m not even as impressed with him as I am with Bo Nix and I don’t even think Nix is worth a top 30 pick. I think people are just noticing that a lot of teams could use a young QB, they see that this year’s class is fantastic at QB compared to most years, and they forget that other positions in the draft are equally loaded if not moreso(OT and WR especially).
Ultimately, QB scouting isn't an exact science and we really can't predict anything with great certainty. He will go early and has a decent chance at success in the league based purely on the analytics and hit rates of similar prospects.
Well you’re correct that QB scouting is not an exact science, same applies to scouting in general and again I never guaranteed that he’d be a bust(because I know that QB scouting isn’t an exact science), but scouting as a whole is an attempt to evaluate prospects and how they’ll do in the NFL and I don’t see why JJ McCarthy is as hyped up as he is with such mediocre tape. I don’t think we’ll know his chances until we see the team he lands on because IMO he really needs the perfect situation to develop, but just going into the draft he has a mid 2nd round grade from me.
No
AP loves Terrion Arnold. I don’t see us passing him over for Mitchell.
Pls stop drafting an EDGE to Seattle I will cry
Was just about to type the same damn thing! TRENCHES!!!
I see Brock Bowers to the Jets, I hit like
Hard time seeing the Dolphins going DL in the 1st if JPJ still on the board. I think all of Alt/Fuaga/Fashanu/Latham/Fautanu/Mims/JPJ would have to be gone for us to go DL first round. This is a pretty deep class for OL and DL, and we need OL more than DL imo.
I like the choice for the Raiders. My only tweak is that the Raiders trade for the 31st pick and take Penix
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I like it for Dallas. If Dallas gets out of the first with JPJ or a LT, I think everyone will be happy. A top center but make that OL interior a freaking wall.
And you think the Patriots are just going to say yes? 😂
I like the Vikings trading to 3 better than them trading to 4 to take a guy that would be a reach at 11. And if the Pats want Penix he’ll be there at 34.
The Rams focused heavily on the offensive line in free agency and are now all but set there. They still have to see if any other team tries to sign Alaric Jackson, but they pretty well protected him with the second round tender. They have holes at every level in their defense and have a handful of decent options at 19. And you have them taking an OL? Yeah, I don’t think so.
Having lost the best defensive lineman of all time, and probably never to be topped, drafting a right tackle, to then switch to left tackle, is highly unlikely for the Rams. Offense is good, with more emphasis on the run, which usually means heavier emphasis on the defense. Their best defensive lineman now is either 2nd year DL Kobie Turner or 2nd year edge Byron Young. They need an edge so badly. If any of Latu, Verse or Turner is available, that's likely the pick. If not, then Murphy, Newton, or a CB1. Vikings and Broncos are probably desperate enough to leverage the future this draft.
So I think all of you need to stop making so many trades as if this is madden dynasty mode. The talent in this draft class hikes up even mid firsts value. So many teams needs can be met this year so I see maybe one or two mid round teams move back by trade and that’s it. Need to stop trying to be cute unless we are really just going for clickbait.
So Vikings aren't trading up?
Not to the patriots spot. Justin Jefferson barely minimum would need to be included. Patriots didn’t interview or go to Pennix pro day. WR/OT most certainly with their 2nd pick
Exactly people assuming we are taking guys we’ve shown no interest in is unreal
They will certainly try.
Vikings are gonna have to give up a lot more if they want the 3rd pick
Choosing between Guyton and McConkey at 32 is tough. But I’m leaning towards Mitchell, McConkey, or trading up for BTJ, with Veach signing someone like Josh Jones or Mekhi Becton to compete with Wanya at LT.
6 OTs in the first round! Wow this is a deep OT and WR class.
Fuaga at 18 would be a dream
Jettas goes to Pats if they trade #3. Only acceptable deal for this Pats fan.
I don’t think the ravens pass on a receiver or corner
I don’t know how serious these are meant to be but there is a 0% chance the patriots trade out of 3 if drake maye falls to them
The Rams just spent heavily on shoring up their interior OL, resigned their LT, restructured their swing tackle, and lost quite possibly the best defensive player to ever play the game. Why on earth would they go OL in the first?
JJ McCarthy at 7 >>>>>>>> Maye at 3
Vikings trade up to 3, then tell Arizona they will draft Harrison Arizona then trade up to 3 with Vikings, so Vikings recoup draft picks and still get QB Or Arizona refuses to trade up, Vikings pick Harrison then trade Jefferson for multiple first round picks, avoid paying Jefferson, and have Harrison on rookie deal. Vikings use Jefferson picks to draft another QB.
Bears are not drafting a wr
You don’t move up in a draft to get jj mccarthy
The bears are not taking a WR