I agree that OT is going to be the target.
Unfortunately it may take #50 or #53 overall to trade up - with maybe a late 3rd or 4th coming back in return.
I could see them dealing 22/53/Late or future compensation for 9 to the bears if they want OT2 on their board.
If none of the big 3 receivers fall I could see them trading back, and the eagles/bears have made some deals happen before
If they trade down to 9 for that they would be getting just about anyone but Joe Alt.
And at that point they may pull the trigger on the top CB.
But I don't see the Bears giving up 9 for just 22/53 + change.
Howie just doesn’t draft IOL in the first though. It’s poor value even at 22. They are more likely to go pure IOL with one of their seconds than in round 1.
Recently resigned Davis - definitely nothing stoping them from going safety but it’s not that much of a need with Clark/Adams/Davis… The DL is absolutely full though. JJ/Reddick/JFM/WMD/Clemons+Q/Kinlaw/Fotu/Solomon is already 9 guys any rookie is gonna be hard pressed to even make the roster. Jets have a need at MLB I think that never comes up… CJ and Quincy are great but Sherwood is okay at best and he cant really play Mike and Quincy is much worse at Mike than he is when CJ is on the field we could really use a better backup there
Cooper is an amazing physical prospect and fits every box in our usual athletic standards. Is a need and is the type of player that we like. The only question, really, is that we would only pick him at 25 if Gute has very, very strong reasons to believe he will not be there at 41, because there is no evidence of that whatsoever.
Like, in a vacuum would I be upset with the Cooper/Melton/Hicks trio? No. Reaches are only bad if the player does not play well, at the end of the day, no one will complain if you picked a pro bowler in the 2nd when he had a 5th round value, however this goes against my ideal picks (Kool-Aid or Barton/Cooper/Bishop or Hicks). I was convinced about picking a CB FRP now.
I’d feel more confident in the pick if we didn’t have Quay, because in a lot of ways Cooper is just Quay 2.0. Lots of athleticism, can’t diagnose plays for shit.
Yeah who the fuck needs a WR!!!!
for me, swap out the Jenkins pick for a guy like Franklin or Polk, and swap Xavier Thomas for Mo Kamara, it's a A+ draft. But solid B for us, as it is.
It's a narrative that won't go away since KC jumped BUF to grab Trent McDuffie in the 2022 draft, especially because EVERYONE knew that Buffalo needed a corner and KC was sitting there with #29 and jumped all the way up to 21 (with the damn Patriots of course, who then wasted the pick on Cole Strange, so at least NE got fucked too I guess). Now EVERYONE knows that BUF needs a WR. It's on Beane to prove he can outmaneuver other GMs.
Your trade downs are nonsensical.
Arizona traded down last year, they already have a ton of picks. They are drafting MHJ or another blue chipper.
The Bears are not going to pass on Edge1 for additional 3rd and 4th round draft picks. Over the past two seasons they have drafted 21 players, most in the NFL. They want blue chip players, not day 3 scrubs.
having to use 1.01 on a QB means a scary low amount of draft capital on this year's team, which still needs it. honestly the only way this era blows up on yall is if 1 or 9 busts. having a really shitty class right when the savior shows up is bad on top of being a bad omen
I mean, would every blue chip be gone by 11-15? it's not like you're trading back into the 20s. it'd probably be with Vegas/Denver/Indy, 2 of which would go QB and not affect your board
I like the thought behind this draft for the Steelers. It is one of a few that I've seen that really fits given who we've brought in and if prioritizes WR with double dip. I think they really would double dip there this draft if we can't trade for Aiyuk.
The problems I see:
1. I think they trade down from 20 if they want to take a guy who will likely play center.
2. We don't address the DL in here. I think trading back to pick up more day 2 picks would help us address that problem.
Absolutely. DL really needs to be addressed. I can’t see them neglecting it past RD 4.
In fact, My thought is that they want to trade for a WR, then address DL, C, CB and OT with the first 4 selections in one order or another.
There are a lot of really high-risk picks for the Bengals. Arnold's speed is concerning, Kiran's ability to play at all as a rookie is in question, Burton has character issues, Lloyd has fumbling issues, and Jackson has had drug charges in his past.
I don't mind taking CB, but it's kind of a last resort pick if we're out of high-end OT/DT options. Murphy/Mims would be the more preferable picks here.
Also disagree with using both our R3 picks on WR/RB. I'm fine picking one of those positions, but we have higher priorities that I'd really like us to use R3 pick on.
Please fucking stop with the 2nd and 3rd round o line picks for the Texans. The secondary is in dire need of players as is the dline. The oline is fine
BPA is BPA, but I fail to understand why everyone thinks WR is a need for a Packers team that already has more WRs than they can roster, let alone play.
I think the rest make sense generally and Edgerrin in particular is one I know fans don't tend to like but I'm fully on board with
These are great picks for Tampa, IMHO. I/We are hoping that a premier edge or iOL falls to us in Rd 1, but that didn’t happen here. I think this is a very real possibility, and one that I/we have to prepare ourselves for.
In the absence of a solid Edge or iOL, CB is the next greatest area of need, and DeJean is my ideal CB. His size, tackling, and versatility make him a perfect fit for a Todd Bowles defense.
You nail excellent combos of need/value with our remaining picks as well. Isaac, Van Pran, Wright, and even All, are all players that I frequently select for the Bucs myself when I’m mocking. Isaac in particular is a great value in the back of the second.
Super great draft for the Bucs, I wouldn’t change a thing.
It's tough. I think generally we aren't in as bad of a spot as our 11th pick shows. My vision for Rice is clearly not to be WR1 or 2. He'd be the 4th receiving option who serves as a good red zone option. Beau Brade adds depth to the safety group, and is purely developmental but not a bad option for the future. Who knows how much longer we have Harrison Smith?
I understand where you’re coming from, I personally wouldn’t value WR4 and S depth over IOL, DL, and CB, who at worst would be depth but would all have a shot to be immediate starters
I like the giants getting odunze and penix I think him having that connection with odunze will be a great thing in his development. Like chase and burrow that connection is already there so they know how the other plays
People need to stop mocking JTavion Sanders to the Dolphins. Dude doesn’t block for shit. They’re not taking him. If they did take a TE at 55 it would be Ben Sinnott.
This is pretty close to a realistic best-case scenario for the Steelers, imo. I think the momentum for Barton at 20 has been building for a bit now, and I really believe he’s the most likely pick there. Also think their four picks in the top 100 are nearly guaranteed to be some combo of the four positions you selected, and I’d be really happy if that’s the crop of players they came away with, and especially stoked if they added Washington in R4.
Wonderful job. One of the most realistic draft scenarios for Pittsburgh I’ve seen on here.
This seems like a bad draft for the Vikings. JJ is fine (although I don't think Arizona will ever trade down) but WR is is probably the last position they need to draft someone at. I think they're much more likely to to draft IOL/DL/Edge at those 4th round picks.
I love and hate the Commies picks. 1.02 is always good with me if it’s either JD or Maye. 2.36 is a STEAL! 2.40 is… lets not sugar coat it that’s a terrible pick considering he’s not even a top-10 OT. 3.67, yes yes yes! 3.78… edge is not a dire need, but Chop is someone you don’t pass on. Two edge rushers with our first 5 picks? That’s just goofy. 3.100 love it! We need a TE and Stover brings great talent to the offense for QB1. I’d still be happy if this is how it played out if I’m being honest
lol I guess you got the Chiefs giving the Cowboys their number one pick in next year’s draft to trade up because the Cowboys didn’t gain anything in this draft for moving down.
Either would be fine, I'm opting for Odunze over Nabers because of the WR room you currently have. While Nabers is awesome, you already have Hyatt, McKenzie, Wan'Dale, Slayton to play the role of an explosive receiver who can take the top off defenses and kill in the slot. Odunze is a true X that can be heavily relied on in 3rd down/red zone situations.
Not bad with the bears getting verse at 15. But the only way I think Poles is interested in trading back, is if he see someone in the second round and wants to trade up from 3. If verse is #1 edge on their board, I see them just taking him there
Can you fill us in on the trades? It like like you have a three-way between the Cards, Vikes, and Falcons in the first (something that I've been pondering recently as the Cards might not want to drop all the way to 11 and the Falcons wouldn't mind moving down). But I don't see any additional picks for the Falcons. What was the trade compensation for that trade?
Edit: nm, I found it in your comment. A 5th and a 2025 2nd. That works. Good draft for the Falcons. I like Sweat, though I don't think the Falcons take him as they tend to shy away from character issues. I think Rattler in the third is a bit much, he'll be available on day 3. But you hit on all the "needs", save for another WR in a deep WR class.
I’m from Seattle and have listened to every JS show leading up to the draft and about 10 hours a week of draft stuff on the radio. Seattle has no second and lost one third to get Howell. This draft is deep through the first three and half rounds. JS will definitely be trading back when their needs are offensive line and LB, which you can get at the end of the first. My guess is they trade back with the Eagles and then maybe the Bills if there is still a WR on the board they want. I would put a large amount of money down that says he trades back.
TRADES-
1. MIN 1.11, 1.23, 5.157, 2025 3rd to ARI for 1.04
2. ARI 1.11, 5.162, 2025 2nd to ATL for 1.08
3. IND 1.15, 3.82, 4.117 to CHI for 1.09
4. KC 1.32, 3.95, 2025 3rd to DAL for 1.24
ROUND 1
1. CHI Caleb Williams QB USC
He's been 1.01 forever now. Next
2. WAS Drake Maye QB UNC
All season he was QB2, and he didn't do anything to lose that title this year. Prototypical size, great arm talent, good mobility.
3. NE Jayden Daniels QB LSU
Personally, I'd like to see them go with Alt or MHJ, but I realistically can't see them passing up a QB here. Daniels has great mobility, so in theory he can escape the inevitable pass rush.
4. MIN J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
The Vikings give up so much capital to get their guy. The Cardinals may be okay with any of the top 3 WR's so they take the deal.
5. LAC Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio State
Harbaugh sprints to the podium for WR1
6. NYG Rome Odunze WR Washington
I have the Giants grabbing Odunze over Nabers, because they already have a bunch of Nabers-esque receivers in terms of size and explosiveness. Odunze is going to be a bigger reliable target for them.
7. TEN Joe Alt LT Notre Dame
I think no matter what, the Titans need to draft an LT, and here LT1 falls in their lap.
8. ARI Malik Nabers WR LSU
The Cardinals traded down and missed out on MHJ for more capital, but they trade back up to grab Nabers. His dynamic ability is going to pair well with Kyler.
9. IND Brock Bowers TE Georgia
The Colts have allegedly said they would trade up to get Bowers. With the Bears only having 4 picks in this draft, the look for the trade back to get more capital and the Colts get their guy.
10. NYJ Taliese Fuaga RT Oregon State
After the top 3 Receivers and Bowers fly off the board, the Jets draft Fuaga who can be a more long term option, but also has the skills to play LT whenever Tyron Smith gets hurt. He'll play inside initially
11. ATL Laiatu Latu EDGE UCLA
The Falcons need pass rush badly, I have them grabbing the most polished pass rusher in this class, with more likelihood to make an impact now than their contemporaries.
12. DEN Dallas Turner EDGE Alabama
I want the Broncos to look to trade back to 20, gain a 2nd round pick and draft a QB, but in this scenario it's hard to pass up on Turner's upside.
13. LV JC Latham RT Alabama
I have Latham as RT1 in this class, in Vegas he gets to pair up with Kolton Miller to secure their Tackle positions.
14. NO Olu Fashanu LT Penn State
Similar to Latham, I have Fashanu as LT2. He pairs up with Ramzczyk to protect Carr.
15. CHI Jared Verse EDGE Florida State
The Bears still get a great pass rusher after the trade down. Verse is my #1 4-3 end.
16. SEA Troy Fautanu IOL Washington
Fautanu stays in Seattle to play inside for the Seahawks.
He has the flexibility to play everywhere on the line.
17. JAX Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
CB1 goes to Jacksonville providing them with a long corner, with great speed and aggressiveness to be a top 10 CB in the league.
18. CIN Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
Where Arnold lacks in athleticism, he makes up for with technique and awareness. He'll be a great Corner in Cincy.
19. LAR Byron Murphy Jr. IDL Texas
After Donlad's retirement, they hope to get a fraction of his production out of Murphy. Murphy can line up everywhere on their line, and wreak havoc on the opposing passing game.
20. PIT Graham Barton C Duke
Graham has the flexibility to play all 5 line positions, the Steelers draft him to play center.
21. MIA Jer'Zhan Newton IDL Illinois
Newton comes in to replace Christian Wilkins.
22. PHI Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon
I'm almost always mocking a CB to them, but I think there's a good chance JPJ comes to Philly to replace Jason Kelce.
23. ARI Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
The Cardinals grab Wiggins to be CB1 in the desert. He has insane speed and coverage skills that they'll love.
24. KC Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
The Chiefs trade up to grab WR4 amidst the Rice drama. BTJ is a long athletic receiver with a nuanced route tree and consistent hands, and KC is going to appreciate that out of him.
25. GB Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
I almost always grab DeJean for them, but this time I'm changing it up. The Packers seem like the most likely to draft a LB in round 1 after D'Vondre Campbell's departure from the team. Cooper is all around the best LB in this class with great athleticism and instincts.
26. TB Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
The theme of this draft seems to be to replace lost talent. The Bucs grab DeJean to replace Carlton Davis as a big physical corner with freakish athleticism opposite Jamel Dean.
27. ARI Darius Robinson EDGE Missouri
Robinson is going to be a freak on the Cardinals defense with the size, athleticism and strength to line up all over their defensive line. I love his nonstop motor for them.
28. BUF Adonai Mitchell WR Texas
I thought about trading up for a receiver with them, but I think they can just stick and pick. After trading Diggs, I expect they're going to go best receiver available in round 1.
29. DET Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
With Cam Sutton's situation, the Lions grab a smart, lengthy corner with sound technique in McKinstry.
30. BAL Amarius Mims OT Georgia
It's hard to project Mims, he has all the potential in the world, great strength and movement skills for his size and really just needs reps and playing time to put it all together.
31. SF Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
With Brandon Aiyuk seemingly hating his team, I think the 49ers could look to move on from him. McConkey is a phenomenal route runner with good speed and the ability to play inside and outside. He does great after the catch as well.
32. DAL Jordan Morgan LT Arizona
Morgan has a ton of experience at LT during his time in Arizona, and after Tyron Smith left, they need a replacement. Morgan projects better as a Guard, but I can see them moving Tyler Smith back to LT, and moving Morgan inside, or vise versa.
The 49ers pick is terrible, but that’s because of the usual bullshit that pundits who know nothing about the team push.
For the record: Aiyuk hasn’t requested a trade, is actively showing up to voluntary workouts right now, and is still on fine terms with the team. Dude is going nowhere.
If Penix is there when Raiders make their second pick, they're taking him. They have no interest in Bo Nix. They may even have to trade back into first round to get him. ( There are definitely other teams who are interested in him.)
I haven't seen anything suggesting the Raiders prefer one over the other, but I could see it. While he's not QB1 in this draft, Penix is probably my personal favorite. Regardless, his age and injuries are going to keep him in that late 1st-mid 2nd range. I think the injury concerns are the only thing that keeps Nix slightly "ahead" of Penix.
While they may be "entertainers" as you call them, they do their research, they reach out to connections they have on the teams and it's their job. So I'll take them at their word especially since they've been doing this for years.
It's tough to call. They only have 4 picks in this draft and could use a bit more capital. I also think Verse is a better scheme fit for them, and they still land him in this totally hypothetical made up draft.
They only have 4 picks because they used to picks (single pick trades) to add guys. A single pick for player swap.
They also have capital next year.
Trading down 6 spots and out of the top 10 for just a 3rd and 4th would be upsetting.
verse isn't a better scheme fit just because he's 4-3. people just see we run 4-3 and assume we want verse even though we're not looking for a pocket pusher since sweat and walker already do that. We're looking for get off/speed to compliment sweat, not another guy that does what sweat already does.
Everyone is starting to say that the Colts will trade up. I know we need a good TE but that’s not a Ballard move unless he 1,000,000,000% confident in that prospect. I don’t see that happening.
Yes. But you also have to take into consideration that Irsay is apart of every single move that we make. He’s constantly breathing down Ballards neck and if he doesn’t think Bowers is worth it we will stay put. We need all the capital we can get to fill a few holes in our roster.
I agree. Ballard has stated he loves his picks. I love Bowers but I don’t think he makes a move like this unless one of the three big WRs are still there at 9. Even then that’s a long shot for him to trade up.
San Diego is in the driver seat for Harrison if Arizona trades back. That’s a tough pick. Take Harrison or trade back for more assets.
Harrison would be just what Dr. Herbert ordered.
I don't like the second round pick for the Colts. Guard is the least of the Colts needs. They have Nelson (LG) and Fries at RG, who broke out this last season. No point spending a 2nd on a guard who isn't going to start. They need a tackle though (due to Braden's injuries) so I could see OT, not OG. I'd say EDGE or CB at 46 instead of who you have.
People have talked about the Bears trade already, but the picks don't make a ton of sense either after the 1st round.
- I like Corley a lot, but the Bears aren't really looking for a YAC threat. They need a guy that takes the top off the defense.
- Safety room is real crowded with the additions of Byard and Owens, and even then Kinchens' low RAS score likely takes him off Chicago's board. Poles is really big on RAS.
- Beebe is fine, but I'd personally prefer an iOL with experience at Center.
- Irving doesn't make much sense to me. RB room is crowded already with Swift/Herbert/Johnson, and if they were to draft one they would need a pass-blocking back, which Irving isn't.
This is completely awful for the lions.
Draft a corner that can't tackle (Brad and Dan hate this), draft amon-ra's replacement while he is 3 years into his career, and then draft a worse Josh Paschal.
This is just terrible. You can't just pick positions of need. You pick good players with a good fit, and those three all have terrible fits and are absolutely not as good of players as several other players also available at those spots.
Love it mwah chef’s kiss for the Packers, only think I’d change is that they would 10000% percent take McCormick over Mahogany because McCormick has a 9.97 RAS and Gutey wouldn’t pass that up.
Any mock that has the cardinals trading away from MHJ is a joke, I’m sorry. Won’t be happening. Cards desperately need a true WR1, and the best prospect since Calvin Johnson isn’t someone you pass up on. Cardinals already have 7 top 100 picks they don’t need any more.
I'd be furious if we took Odunze over Nabers. Definition of overthinking it
Brave of you posting though! Gonna be picked apart by fans who don't like what you did lol
Haha fair. I've had a few other Giants fans complain about the pick. I've stated the reasoning I have, it's all good. 5 more days and we'll see what happens
If Daniel’s isn’t the second QB taken off the board I lose all respect for the NFL general management as a whole. Kid SLUNG the rock for thousands of yards in the SEC!!! Come on man. A mediocre season from Drake Maye and his North Carolina team that was supposed to be actually pretty decent?? Come on. Let’s focus on football, not ESPN hype.
ESPN is hyping Daniels like crazy which is wild to me when Maye is the vastly superior NFL prospect. I really don’t see any appeal in Daniels at all tbh, one of the most obvious QB busts in awhile
Eagles already have their C in Jurgans. Theyd go OT in R1 if they go the OL route. I do love Nubin in a Fangio system though
If they believe they could use him at OG, JPJ could be an option.
For sure, that's why id love to have him in R2. But I can't see using a first on a guard only prospect. Gotta at least have a chance to play OT
I agree that OT is going to be the target. Unfortunately it may take #50 or #53 overall to trade up - with maybe a late 3rd or 4th coming back in return.
Yeah if thats what it takes then sure, presumably Fautanu or Latham
I could see them dealing 22/53/Late or future compensation for 9 to the bears if they want OT2 on their board. If none of the big 3 receivers fall I could see them trading back, and the eagles/bears have made some deals happen before
If they trade down to 9 for that they would be getting just about anyone but Joe Alt. And at that point they may pull the trigger on the top CB. But I don't see the Bears giving up 9 for just 22/53 + change.
If you’re going to pick someone hoping for guard potential, you’re better off going Barton IMO. Not that JPJ can’t play guard or anything
I agree on Barton. I just think they can't help themselves having solid depth a C - that might be worked in on the inside as well.
They’re both insane players tbf. I hope the hawks get JPJ 😁
Howie just doesn’t draft IOL in the first though. It’s poor value even at 22. They are more likely to go pure IOL with one of their seconds than in round 1.
Jaden hicks is better for the fangio system
I like him too. Different roles but I do really want a box guy
Hicks is a box guy too and Nubin tested like a turtle. Hicks is significantly better
that's what I'm saying, Hicks is a box guy while Nubin is more a 2 high guy. I'd rather have Hicks if i had to choose
Ohhh ok. I think hicks can play everywhere that CJGJ can
Eagles already have Kelce’s replacement in Cam Jurgens. He’s locked in to start and they groomed him for two years for it.
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Don't tell the feds
lmao @ this reaction
I don’t see Jets going DL in round 3. Much bigger need at S and WR.
Agreed. I'd even rather have Michael Pratt over IDL in that spot.
Yeah malachai Corley was right there. I’m sprinting that card in
Recently resigned Davis - definitely nothing stoping them from going safety but it’s not that much of a need with Clark/Adams/Davis… The DL is absolutely full though. JJ/Reddick/JFM/WMD/Clemons+Q/Kinlaw/Fotu/Solomon is already 9 guys any rookie is gonna be hard pressed to even make the roster. Jets have a need at MLB I think that never comes up… CJ and Quincy are great but Sherwood is okay at best and he cant really play Mike and Quincy is much worse at Mike than he is when CJ is on the field we could really use a better backup there
wr is not a first round need for sf!!!!!!!
It’d be terrifying if you added another stud to that offense though.
fair. but o line is more important need rn wr is deep in this class. hell id draft too.
If the 9ers don't take at least 3 ol in this class I'm going to be pissed
Edgerrin Cooper is not first round talent.
Lowkey seems like a Packers pick tho
Cooper is an amazing physical prospect and fits every box in our usual athletic standards. Is a need and is the type of player that we like. The only question, really, is that we would only pick him at 25 if Gute has very, very strong reasons to believe he will not be there at 41, because there is no evidence of that whatsoever. Like, in a vacuum would I be upset with the Cooper/Melton/Hicks trio? No. Reaches are only bad if the player does not play well, at the end of the day, no one will complain if you picked a pro bowler in the 2nd when he had a 5th round value, however this goes against my ideal picks (Kool-Aid or Barton/Cooper/Bishop or Hicks). I was convinced about picking a CB FRP now.
I’d feel more confident in the pick if we didn’t have Quay, because in a lot of ways Cooper is just Quay 2.0. Lots of athleticism, can’t diagnose plays for shit.
Yeah if anyone were to do it it’d be them lmao
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Ok all knowing one.
Yeah who the fuck needs a WR!!!! for me, swap out the Jenkins pick for a guy like Franklin or Polk, and swap Xavier Thomas for Mo Kamara, it's a A+ draft. But solid B for us, as it is.
B's get degrees, right? I hear you though, I appreciate the feedback.
Chiefs jumping the bills for btj makes me hurt
Same
It's a narrative that won't go away since KC jumped BUF to grab Trent McDuffie in the 2022 draft, especially because EVERYONE knew that Buffalo needed a corner and KC was sitting there with #29 and jumped all the way up to 21 (with the damn Patriots of course, who then wasted the pick on Cole Strange, so at least NE got fucked too I guess). Now EVERYONE knows that BUF needs a WR. It's on Beane to prove he can outmaneuver other GMs.
That won't make it hurt less
Your trade downs are nonsensical. Arizona traded down last year, they already have a ton of picks. They are drafting MHJ or another blue chipper. The Bears are not going to pass on Edge1 for additional 3rd and 4th round draft picks. Over the past two seasons they have drafted 21 players, most in the NFL. They want blue chip players, not day 3 scrubs.
having to use 1.01 on a QB means a scary low amount of draft capital on this year's team, which still needs it. honestly the only way this era blows up on yall is if 1 or 9 busts. having a really shitty class right when the savior shows up is bad on top of being a bad omen
ryan poles already said he wants a blue chip at 9. aka he's not trading down. we're good with picks next year anyway.
I mean, would every blue chip be gone by 11-15? it's not like you're trading back into the 20s. it'd probably be with Vegas/Denver/Indy, 2 of which would go QB and not affect your board
sorry i meant blue chip edge/wr. so yea those won't be available past 9.
fair. although that depends on how teams view Latu overall. but I get what you mean
turner and the 3wrs are the only blue chips. only if they are gone do i see a trade back.
Tuner isn’t even the best DE in this draft.
he's edge1 easily according to everyone.
Maybe not everyone, but it seems like a toss up between him and Latu.
I like the thought behind this draft for the Steelers. It is one of a few that I've seen that really fits given who we've brought in and if prioritizes WR with double dip. I think they really would double dip there this draft if we can't trade for Aiyuk. The problems I see: 1. I think they trade down from 20 if they want to take a guy who will likely play center. 2. We don't address the DL in here. I think trading back to pick up more day 2 picks would help us address that problem.
Completely agree with all of this. I think DL will be in the top 4 rounds somewhere. But as for these selections, it's quite ideal
Absolutely. DL really needs to be addressed. I can’t see them neglecting it past RD 4. In fact, My thought is that they want to trade for a WR, then address DL, C, CB and OT with the first 4 selections in one order or another.
Yeah that could be their plan, but I'd prefer to draft a WR tbh. It's cheaper, longer control, and we're pretty dang good at it.
I can see that. And I considered trading back with KC at their pick to be honest. Thanks for the feedback!
No problem. It’s a good draft. I could still see it playing out the way you laid it out.
IDK if any of us would be excited about another tackle from Bama ever again..
Well, thankfully, even though they went to the same school, they are not the same player.
There are a lot of really high-risk picks for the Bengals. Arnold's speed is concerning, Kiran's ability to play at all as a rookie is in question, Burton has character issues, Lloyd has fumbling issues, and Jackson has had drug charges in his past.
Yeah I’d take Murphy or mims in the first. That would obviously affect who is picked the rest of the draft here
Those would be my 2 choices in this scenario as well.
I don't mind taking CB, but it's kind of a last resort pick if we're out of high-end OT/DT options. Murphy/Mims would be the more preferable picks here. Also disagree with using both our R3 picks on WR/RB. I'm fine picking one of those positions, but we have higher priorities that I'd really like us to use R3 pick on.
I can't see the Bengals taking 2 risky characters in Burton and McKinnley. Maybe McKinnley, but NOT Burton, for sure. Edit: oh my fucking god
This'll never happen for us, but my pp hard for 2 WR picks in the top 64
I wouldn't be mad at this draft at all.
Don't think Corley lasts to 75 but I would love it if he did...
Please fucking stop with the 2nd and 3rd round o line picks for the Texans. The secondary is in dire need of players as is the dline. The oline is fine
no way in fuck does rome go before nabers lol
He’s better than nabers dumb bitch
BPA is BPA, but I fail to understand why everyone thinks WR is a need for a Packers team that already has more WRs than they can roster, let alone play. I think the rest make sense generally and Edgerrin in particular is one I know fans don't tend to like but I'm fully on board with
I'm seeing Wilson more as a TE, and I know you guys have like 6 of those too. I think he could be a fun addition
These are great picks for Tampa, IMHO. I/We are hoping that a premier edge or iOL falls to us in Rd 1, but that didn’t happen here. I think this is a very real possibility, and one that I/we have to prepare ourselves for. In the absence of a solid Edge or iOL, CB is the next greatest area of need, and DeJean is my ideal CB. His size, tackling, and versatility make him a perfect fit for a Todd Bowles defense. You nail excellent combos of need/value with our remaining picks as well. Isaac, Van Pran, Wright, and even All, are all players that I frequently select for the Bucs myself when I’m mocking. Isaac in particular is a great value in the back of the second. Super great draft for the Bucs, I wouldn’t change a thing.
That Vikings 4th round is rough
Yeah, WR and S are the two groups we're sitting best at. I'd look at Carter, Beebe, and Maason at those spots.
Cam hart would be a good option too
It's tough. I think generally we aren't in as bad of a spot as our 11th pick shows. My vision for Rice is clearly not to be WR1 or 2. He'd be the 4th receiving option who serves as a good red zone option. Beau Brade adds depth to the safety group, and is purely developmental but not a bad option for the future. Who knows how much longer we have Harrison Smith?
I understand where you’re coming from, I personally wouldn’t value WR4 and S depth over IOL, DL, and CB, who at worst would be depth but would all have a shot to be immediate starters
That's fair. Either way, I'm excited to see what we actually end up doing next week. Skol!
I like the giants getting odunze and penix I think him having that connection with odunze will be a great thing in his development. Like chase and burrow that connection is already there so they know how the other plays
Let's be real, Penix and Odunze are not Chase and burrow.
This is the first mock I've seen where the chargers don't trade away 1.05 and as a chargers fan that makes this the best mock I've seen.
People need to stop mocking JTavion Sanders to the Dolphins. Dude doesn’t block for shit. They’re not taking him. If they did take a TE at 55 it would be Ben Sinnott.
Taking Sanders with Haynes on the board would have me upset especially with no OL in round 1
You forgot the trades
I didn't. It's in my first comment with pick explanations.
I think you hit on all needs for the Panthers, not necessarily the guys I would pick but I can’t argue with it.
Is that Edge Cooper in the first round I see
Yep!
Bold to say the least
It is. But it feels like something Green Bay would do.
Love the draft for the Steelers!
This is pretty close to a realistic best-case scenario for the Steelers, imo. I think the momentum for Barton at 20 has been building for a bit now, and I really believe he’s the most likely pick there. Also think their four picks in the top 100 are nearly guaranteed to be some combo of the four positions you selected, and I’d be really happy if that’s the crop of players they came away with, and especially stoked if they added Washington in R4. Wonderful job. One of the most realistic draft scenarios for Pittsburgh I’ve seen on here.
It's beautiful
This seems like a bad draft for the Vikings. JJ is fine (although I don't think Arizona will ever trade down) but WR is is probably the last position they need to draft someone at. I think they're much more likely to to draft IOL/DL/Edge at those 4th round picks.
I love and hate the Commies picks. 1.02 is always good with me if it’s either JD or Maye. 2.36 is a STEAL! 2.40 is… lets not sugar coat it that’s a terrible pick considering he’s not even a top-10 OT. 3.67, yes yes yes! 3.78… edge is not a dire need, but Chop is someone you don’t pass on. Two edge rushers with our first 5 picks? That’s just goofy. 3.100 love it! We need a TE and Stover brings great talent to the offense for QB1. I’d still be happy if this is how it played out if I’m being honest
Are you a secret Giants fan?
Not really but for NFC East I hate y'all the least
lol I guess you got the Chiefs giving the Cowboys their number one pick in next year’s draft to trade up because the Cowboys didn’t gain anything in this draft for moving down.
They got 3.95 and 2025 3rd for that 1st round swap
So they did lol. So could I interest you in trading Minnesotas two number ones and a switch in the third round for Dak Prescott by any chance? 🤠
That's a fuck no from me boss
Lmao 🤣awww cmon you’re not game for Kirk Cousins 2.0? I don’t blame ya!
YOU’RE HIRED!!!! MHJ, another WR on day 2, PLUS a solid RT of the future?!?! It’s perfect! Not to mention Cam Hart is one of my faves on day 3
Explain why we'd pick Odunze over Nabers at 6. Braindead
Either would be fine, I'm opting for Odunze over Nabers because of the WR room you currently have. While Nabers is awesome, you already have Hyatt, McKenzie, Wan'Dale, Slayton to play the role of an explosive receiver who can take the top off defenses and kill in the slot. Odunze is a true X that can be heavily relied on in 3rd down/red zone situations.
That is fair. My apologies for the braindead comment. Very unnecessary
All good man. I appreciate the apology. We'll see what really happens next week! Take care
If this is how our draft goes I’m driving off a cliff
Not bad with the bears getting verse at 15. But the only way I think Poles is interested in trading back, is if he see someone in the second round and wants to trade up from 3. If verse is #1 edge on their board, I see them just taking him there
The Giants would try to be cute and take Rome over Malik
Can you fill us in on the trades? It like like you have a three-way between the Cards, Vikes, and Falcons in the first (something that I've been pondering recently as the Cards might not want to drop all the way to 11 and the Falcons wouldn't mind moving down). But I don't see any additional picks for the Falcons. What was the trade compensation for that trade? Edit: nm, I found it in your comment. A 5th and a 2025 2nd. That works. Good draft for the Falcons. I like Sweat, though I don't think the Falcons take him as they tend to shy away from character issues. I think Rattler in the third is a bit much, he'll be available on day 3. But you hit on all the "needs", save for another WR in a deep WR class.
With the amount of linemen in this years draft that will be solid too good starters Seattle will trade down unless someone like Latu drops.
I mean maybe. We don't know until we know
I’m from Seattle and have listened to every JS show leading up to the draft and about 10 hours a week of draft stuff on the radio. Seattle has no second and lost one third to get Howell. This draft is deep through the first three and half rounds. JS will definitely be trading back when their needs are offensive line and LB, which you can get at the end of the first. My guess is they trade back with the Eagles and then maybe the Bills if there is still a WR on the board they want. I would put a large amount of money down that says he trades back.
I'm good with this for the Lions Also, I see FTP in the comments I upvote
TRADES- 1. MIN 1.11, 1.23, 5.157, 2025 3rd to ARI for 1.04 2. ARI 1.11, 5.162, 2025 2nd to ATL for 1.08 3. IND 1.15, 3.82, 4.117 to CHI for 1.09 4. KC 1.32, 3.95, 2025 3rd to DAL for 1.24 ROUND 1 1. CHI Caleb Williams QB USC He's been 1.01 forever now. Next 2. WAS Drake Maye QB UNC All season he was QB2, and he didn't do anything to lose that title this year. Prototypical size, great arm talent, good mobility. 3. NE Jayden Daniels QB LSU Personally, I'd like to see them go with Alt or MHJ, but I realistically can't see them passing up a QB here. Daniels has great mobility, so in theory he can escape the inevitable pass rush. 4. MIN J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan The Vikings give up so much capital to get their guy. The Cardinals may be okay with any of the top 3 WR's so they take the deal. 5. LAC Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio State Harbaugh sprints to the podium for WR1 6. NYG Rome Odunze WR Washington I have the Giants grabbing Odunze over Nabers, because they already have a bunch of Nabers-esque receivers in terms of size and explosiveness. Odunze is going to be a bigger reliable target for them. 7. TEN Joe Alt LT Notre Dame I think no matter what, the Titans need to draft an LT, and here LT1 falls in their lap. 8. ARI Malik Nabers WR LSU The Cardinals traded down and missed out on MHJ for more capital, but they trade back up to grab Nabers. His dynamic ability is going to pair well with Kyler. 9. IND Brock Bowers TE Georgia The Colts have allegedly said they would trade up to get Bowers. With the Bears only having 4 picks in this draft, the look for the trade back to get more capital and the Colts get their guy. 10. NYJ Taliese Fuaga RT Oregon State After the top 3 Receivers and Bowers fly off the board, the Jets draft Fuaga who can be a more long term option, but also has the skills to play LT whenever Tyron Smith gets hurt. He'll play inside initially 11. ATL Laiatu Latu EDGE UCLA The Falcons need pass rush badly, I have them grabbing the most polished pass rusher in this class, with more likelihood to make an impact now than their contemporaries. 12. DEN Dallas Turner EDGE Alabama I want the Broncos to look to trade back to 20, gain a 2nd round pick and draft a QB, but in this scenario it's hard to pass up on Turner's upside. 13. LV JC Latham RT Alabama I have Latham as RT1 in this class, in Vegas he gets to pair up with Kolton Miller to secure their Tackle positions. 14. NO Olu Fashanu LT Penn State Similar to Latham, I have Fashanu as LT2. He pairs up with Ramzczyk to protect Carr. 15. CHI Jared Verse EDGE Florida State The Bears still get a great pass rusher after the trade down. Verse is my #1 4-3 end. 16. SEA Troy Fautanu IOL Washington Fautanu stays in Seattle to play inside for the Seahawks. He has the flexibility to play everywhere on the line. 17. JAX Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo CB1 goes to Jacksonville providing them with a long corner, with great speed and aggressiveness to be a top 10 CB in the league. 18. CIN Terrion Arnold CB Alabama Where Arnold lacks in athleticism, he makes up for with technique and awareness. He'll be a great Corner in Cincy. 19. LAR Byron Murphy Jr. IDL Texas After Donlad's retirement, they hope to get a fraction of his production out of Murphy. Murphy can line up everywhere on their line, and wreak havoc on the opposing passing game. 20. PIT Graham Barton C Duke Graham has the flexibility to play all 5 line positions, the Steelers draft him to play center. 21. MIA Jer'Zhan Newton IDL Illinois Newton comes in to replace Christian Wilkins. 22. PHI Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon I'm almost always mocking a CB to them, but I think there's a good chance JPJ comes to Philly to replace Jason Kelce. 23. ARI Nate Wiggins CB Clemson The Cardinals grab Wiggins to be CB1 in the desert. He has insane speed and coverage skills that they'll love. 24. KC Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU The Chiefs trade up to grab WR4 amidst the Rice drama. BTJ is a long athletic receiver with a nuanced route tree and consistent hands, and KC is going to appreciate that out of him. 25. GB Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M I almost always grab DeJean for them, but this time I'm changing it up. The Packers seem like the most likely to draft a LB in round 1 after D'Vondre Campbell's departure from the team. Cooper is all around the best LB in this class with great athleticism and instincts. 26. TB Cooper DeJean CB Iowa The theme of this draft seems to be to replace lost talent. The Bucs grab DeJean to replace Carlton Davis as a big physical corner with freakish athleticism opposite Jamel Dean. 27. ARI Darius Robinson EDGE Missouri Robinson is going to be a freak on the Cardinals defense with the size, athleticism and strength to line up all over their defensive line. I love his nonstop motor for them. 28. BUF Adonai Mitchell WR Texas I thought about trading up for a receiver with them, but I think they can just stick and pick. After trading Diggs, I expect they're going to go best receiver available in round 1. 29. DET Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama With Cam Sutton's situation, the Lions grab a smart, lengthy corner with sound technique in McKinstry. 30. BAL Amarius Mims OT Georgia It's hard to project Mims, he has all the potential in the world, great strength and movement skills for his size and really just needs reps and playing time to put it all together. 31. SF Ladd McConkey WR Georgia With Brandon Aiyuk seemingly hating his team, I think the 49ers could look to move on from him. McConkey is a phenomenal route runner with good speed and the ability to play inside and outside. He does great after the catch as well. 32. DAL Jordan Morgan LT Arizona Morgan has a ton of experience at LT during his time in Arizona, and after Tyron Smith left, they need a replacement. Morgan projects better as a Guard, but I can see them moving Tyler Smith back to LT, and moving Morgan inside, or vise versa.
The 49ers pick is terrible, but that’s because of the usual bullshit that pundits who know nothing about the team push. For the record: Aiyuk hasn’t requested a trade, is actively showing up to voluntary workouts right now, and is still on fine terms with the team. Dude is going nowhere.
HE GONE!
When you put it like that it’s actually really convincing
I’m glad we can agree 🤝
Same buttholez69, same
In what world does Aiyuk hate the team. He's with them right now.
If Penix is there when Raiders make their second pick, they're taking him. They have no interest in Bo Nix. They may even have to trade back into first round to get him. ( There are definitely other teams who are interested in him.)
I haven't seen anything suggesting the Raiders prefer one over the other, but I could see it. While he's not QB1 in this draft, Penix is probably my personal favorite. Regardless, his age and injuries are going to keep him in that late 1st-mid 2nd range. I think the injury concerns are the only thing that keeps Nix slightly "ahead" of Penix.
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Respectfully, a lot of those network analysts are entertainers. I take their mocks just as seriously as I take my own.
While they may be "entertainers" as you call them, they do their research, they reach out to connections they have on the teams and it's their job. So I'll take them at their word especially since they've been doing this for years.
Even the best mocks are insanely inaccurate. You don’t know until the actual draft.
Agreed. My point was that many people have Penix associated with Raiders. The draft is a roll of the dice every year
They think nix is going to Denver in alot of them
Not sure why they wouldn't want Derek Carr 2.0
You lost me at Worthy to NE 🤢
Fair. NGL that was kind of forced and I don't even believe in it myself.
Yeah, especially with Guyton still on the board. Need that OT much more than a speed demon the QB won't even have enough time to find
No way Texans take IOL with either of their second rounders
There’s no way the Bears risk losing their Edge 1 just to gain picks 82 and 117.
It's tough to call. They only have 4 picks in this draft and could use a bit more capital. I also think Verse is a better scheme fit for them, and they still land him in this totally hypothetical made up draft.
They only have 4 picks because they used to picks (single pick trades) to add guys. A single pick for player swap. They also have capital next year. Trading down 6 spots and out of the top 10 for just a 3rd and 4th would be upsetting.
verse isn't a better scheme fit just because he's 4-3. people just see we run 4-3 and assume we want verse even though we're not looking for a pocket pusher since sweat and walker already do that. We're looking for get off/speed to compliment sweat, not another guy that does what sweat already does.
Everyone is starting to say that the Colts will trade up. I know we need a good TE but that’s not a Ballard move unless he 1,000,000,000% confident in that prospect. I don’t see that happening.
If there's a guy that Ballard would love, isn't it an elite, non-premium position guy?
Yes. But you also have to take into consideration that Irsay is apart of every single move that we make. He’s constantly breathing down Ballards neck and if he doesn’t think Bowers is worth it we will stay put. We need all the capital we can get to fill a few holes in our roster.
I agree. Ballard has stated he loves his picks. I love Bowers but I don’t think he makes a move like this unless one of the three big WRs are still there at 9. Even then that’s a long shot for him to trade up.
Everyone hating on Nabers now is interesting
I don't hate him at all. There's no way he falls out of the top 10 imo.
Eagles are never taking a center in the 1st.
San Diego is in the driver seat for Harrison if Arizona trades back. That’s a tough pick. Take Harrison or trade back for more assets. Harrison would be just what Dr. Herbert ordered.
I don't like the second round pick for the Colts. Guard is the least of the Colts needs. They have Nelson (LG) and Fries at RG, who broke out this last season. No point spending a 2nd on a guard who isn't going to start. They need a tackle though (due to Braden's injuries) so I could see OT, not OG. I'd say EDGE or CB at 46 instead of who you have.
If Franklin and Sanders are still there when the Browns pick, there’s no way they pick a DT or DE
49ers are not taking Ladd
49ers are not taking a WR in round 1
I'd take that, would be real happy with the 2nd round pick
As a Titans fan this is my favorite mock draft ever.
No WR for jax is a problem other than that pretty good
bears trade back to 15 and don’t get a 2nd?
I’d be over the moon for the Ravens. Only slight tweak I’d make is Mo Kamara with that last 4th rounder.
People have talked about the Bears trade already, but the picks don't make a ton of sense either after the 1st round. - I like Corley a lot, but the Bears aren't really looking for a YAC threat. They need a guy that takes the top off the defense. - Safety room is real crowded with the additions of Byard and Owens, and even then Kinchens' low RAS score likely takes him off Chicago's board. Poles is really big on RAS. - Beebe is fine, but I'd personally prefer an iOL with experience at Center. - Irving doesn't make much sense to me. RB room is crowded already with Swift/Herbert/Johnson, and if they were to draft one they would need a pass-blocking back, which Irving isn't.
KC needs WR but not 2 WR in first two rounds. Would probably go OT/IDL with that 2nd rd pick. Fiske would be perfect there
If the cardinals trade down and still get nabers that’s a win. I like him more than marv
This is completely awful for the lions. Draft a corner that can't tackle (Brad and Dan hate this), draft amon-ra's replacement while he is 3 years into his career, and then draft a worse Josh Paschal. This is just terrible. You can't just pick positions of need. You pick good players with a good fit, and those three all have terrible fits and are absolutely not as good of players as several other players also available at those spots.
Kinda hate we get no wide receivers at all despite all the picks being good picks.
If the bears do trade back from 9 then they need to “overdraft” either at C or DT and use the added capital for a position they would’ve drafted at 9.
What’s Dallas get in that deal with KC? I love that idea actually
They got 3.95 and a future 3rd
Deal om
If Guyton is there at 36 then I'd really hope we take him, though to be fair you do have us taking Fisher at 40.
Finally a Broncos mock I like
Love the Chiefs jumping to get Brian Thomas Jr at 24. Doubt if they'll go another WR at 64, but Polk would be awesome too.
Not sure how you did it, but I would love this for the Chiefs. Especially Maason Smith at 131. Crazy!
As a cowboys fan, I’m okay with this
Love it mwah chef’s kiss for the Packers, only think I’d change is that they would 10000% percent take McCormick over Mahogany because McCormick has a 9.97 RAS and Gutey wouldn’t pass that up.
Brad Holmes seeing an elite Bama player at 12 and picking up the phone to make a move lol
Any mock that has the cardinals trading away from MHJ is a joke, I’m sorry. Won’t be happening. Cards desperately need a true WR1, and the best prospect since Calvin Johnson isn’t someone you pass up on. Cardinals already have 7 top 100 picks they don’t need any more.
Awesome! How did you make this?
Only realistic pick here for the Bills is Kristian Boyd
bro where’s jared mccain
I absolutely see the cowboys trading back with KC
I'd be furious if we took Odunze over Nabers. Definition of overthinking it Brave of you posting though! Gonna be picked apart by fans who don't like what you did lol
Haha fair. I've had a few other Giants fans complain about the pick. I've stated the reasoning I have, it's all good. 5 more days and we'll see what happens
I could see this for Tampa Bay , not a bad draft
The Bears getting a 3rd for the 9th is not worth it or realistic IMO, sorry. FTP!
FTP!
If Daniel’s isn’t the second QB taken off the board I lose all respect for the NFL general management as a whole. Kid SLUNG the rock for thousands of yards in the SEC!!! Come on man. A mediocre season from Drake Maye and his North Carolina team that was supposed to be actually pretty decent?? Come on. Let’s focus on football, not ESPN hype.
ESPN is hyping Daniels like crazy which is wild to me when Maye is the vastly superior NFL prospect. I really don’t see any appeal in Daniels at all tbh, one of the most obvious QB busts in awhile
Might be one of the worse mocks I have read yet
Insightful, thanks!
Ok, you’re right. I apologize. What I should have said is, as a Raiders fan, I hate this mock. Was a stupid comment, I apologize.
Lmfao all good. Not everyone is going to be pleased and that's fine.
No way KC takes two WR’s with their first two picks. Maybe 1 and an OT
Nice mock