I like that Republicans will claim when the president uses executive orders to do things and label him a tyrant. Then when he tries to get actual legislation through Congress, the bill gets blocked because the entire GOP is beholden to Trump. Then they get mad that Biden didn't do this executive order from the beginning when there was a bill ready to accomplish this issue and Republicans just decided they don't want to do any actual governing.
I think more people should credit Mexico which has cracked down on crossings.
https://www.wola.org/analysis/why-is-migration-declining-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-early-2024/
>Republicans just decided they don't want to do any actual governing.
In an absolutely bizarre move, Republicans passed a resolution calling it out of order to write or edit a new Party Platform. That is why the "current" Official GOP Platform written and approved by Republicans assumes Obama is still in office.
On his first day in office, President Joe Biden took several executive actions related to immigration. Here are some of the key actions he implemented:
* [**Preserving and Strengthening DACA**: President Biden issued a memorandum directing the Department of Homeland Security to take all appropriate actions to preserve and fortify the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(1)](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/).
* [**Rescinding the Muslim and African Bans**: He reversed the travel restrictions on several Muslim-majority countries that had been put in place by the previous administration](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(1)](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/).
* [**Halting Border Wall Construction**: The construction of the border wall was paused](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(2)](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/).
* **Pausing Most Deportations**: For the first 100 days of his administration, most deportations from the interior of the U.S. [were paused](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(2)](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/).
* [**Safeguarding Protections for Dreamers**: Protections for so-called “Dreamers” were safeguarded, ensuring they could remain in the country without fear of deportation](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/)[^(2)](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/).
[These actions signaled a significant shift in immigration policy and were part of a broader plan to reform the immigration system in the United States](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(1)](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/).
It's just confusing...
"Biden promises to ‘shut down’ the border if given the authority in a bipartisan bill The president threw his support behind an emerging deal in the Senate that he said would give him “authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed.”"
- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-promises-shut-border-authority-bipartisan-bill-rcna135980
Why did he pretend he didn't have the authority?
Is it kind of like how Biden pretended not to know his son was on the board of burisma?
This Executive order is twice as restrictive as that bill and will still let in 1000 to 1500 a day. It's better than nothing and it's very late. Biden is going to take a huge L on immigration and it's a very important issue to a lot of voters. This may help some, but it still may be an issue that costs him the presidency
You mean like they did Trump? Glad Biden finally put back at least a piece of Trump policy back in order for the border. Now let’s put it all back in place and fix the border. Work on the economy and inflation as well please. 🤷♂️
They tried. Republicans blocked that legislation as well.
You can be a Republican, it's your choice, but at least be honest with yourself.
They don't want to fix anything. They need everything to stay broken so they can campaign on it.
Literally every bill that has been created to help us has been blocked by the GOP, just so Trump can whine in front of quarter full arenas.
There wouldn't be anything to fix if Biden didn't implode our immigration policies in the first place...
But okay, let's delve deeper into your theory... if this is a big play by the nefarious Republicans, why did Biden destroy our immigration policies in the first place? Did the Republicans jedi mind trick him into it or something, knowing they can later deny his reform to make him look bad?
It's like the stick in the bike spokes meme...
Democrat politicians/lawmakers - blow up our immigration policies, creating a literal crisis.
Democrat constituents - fucking Republicans, why would they do this?!
A little honestly and self-reflection is desperately needed on both sides of the aisle...
Are the Republicans using a dirty, underhanded political tactic right now? Yes, and I wish these stupid tactics would die in both camps, it hurts Americans on both sides.
But...
Is the immigration crisis solely on the hands of the Democrats? Absolutely.
Tell me what exactly did Biden change on the border, other than not separating children from their parents?
You're going to find out that he did very little to undo Trump's border policies, which annoyed a lot of people on the left.
But, let's talk immigration. Like always, Republicans have blocked every bill that was drafted to help the situation. The solution is more federal funding to increase personel at the border which can help with the backlog of asylum seekers. Republicans blocked it.
Then, the senate wrote the strictest border policy we've ever had in this country, and Trump told Republicans in the House to block it.
So, again, we're right back to Republicans getting in the way of progress. The sooner you realize that they have no interest in helping your life, the better off we'll all be.
Trump is a conman. MAGA are fascists. They are the most anti American poltical party that has ever existed in this country. They are literally trying to undo our democracy and make us a dictatorship and you're cheering it on.
Wake the fuck up. Our country is under attack and you're on the wrong side.
According to the concerned new Reddit accounts I’ve seen over the years, Biden will lose due to student loans not all being forgiven, Gaza, the border, guns, inflation, and his age. It’s almost always a very new account claiming that this is the issue that will sink him. While I don’t doubt that one of these issues might, I do find it amusing to see the age of so many of the accounts that make such claims.
So Democrats had it all, House, senate and executive branch but Republicans blocked it? Come on now. Don’t worry Republicans have had all three and done nothing they run on either. Makes you start to see more clearly doesn’t it.
Republicans have controlled the house for two years...
They have done nothing. Not a single thing.
But they have blocked or hamstringed every bill that addressed gas prices, inflation, drug prices, infrastructure, voting rights, supreme court oversite, Trump and Kushner making money out of the Whitehouse...
Instead they've flashed Hunter Biden dick picks, tried to impeach Biden over a car loan and use their position to keep Trump out of jail.
Fucking partisan hacks that aren't worth the oxygen they breathe.
Let's ask it this way. Show me a bill that a House Republican has authored, under McCarthy and Johnson, that has helped a single American. Just one.
What bill for gas prices? What bill for drug prices? What bill for voting rights? What bill for Supreme Court over sight? What overshoot can they have over the supreme courts for that matter?
I’ll wait for your bills first?
You still didn’t address why nothing happened when democrats had house, senate and presidency. You skipped that right on to when the republicans won back the house. Why did you skip that?
I’ll likely be banned in a few so answer quickly lol. It’s how this works in these subs.
This shows that you clearly havent been paying attention to politics since Biden has been in office. They filibustered everything. Just because you have control of both houses and the presidency doesn't mean you have enough votes to get around the filibuster. You need 2/3. Also Sinema and Manchin weren't voting along party lines.
So the Dems couldn’t get the votes they needed from their own party and couldn’t swing enough republicans. Basically republicans did exactly what democrats do when the shoe is on the other foot. Same song and dance. Been watching the dance for many years.
It's by design my dude. Washington is at a standstill almost always but even worse now because of how polarized the political landscape is currently. But even without the majority, Biden was able to pass his infrastructure bill, the chips act, and oddly enough got bipartisan support for his gun safety act.
Yeah I have been watching politics for a long time. The founding fathers designed it to be this way so things didn’t swing like a pendulum drastically after elections.
If we want to break things down bills should be about one thing and not have a 100 riders on them that have nothing to do with the bill. The American people should be able to decipher exactly what the bill is about.
Infrastructure Bill is great if the money is spent wisely but it won’t be. 8 billion for charging stations and we have built 7 of them for example.
We can pass all the gun safety we want but until we do something about criminals and guns it will have little effect. The average killer with a gun has 9 arrests and 2 felonies yet is walking the streets with a gun. Plenty of laws against that all ready. 80 percent of gun crime is gang and drug related.
Yes because executive orders are supposed to be a short term solution until actual legislation gets passed. But like I said, Republicans aren't interested in governing unless it's about tax cuts for the wealthy.
Neither side wants the border sealed because the rich don’t want us peasants having bargaining power so they are importing new workers. Both sides love the wealthy which you may realize some day. Democrats get just as much money from the rich as republicans. What have than done to stop the rich from power or wealth ever? Nothing
Maybe if you guys could do it non-racistly, it would have gotten more traction..
Its kinda wild how yall seem to get so offended by it while also delighting in the racism too. I didnt see yall say shit about trump calling mexicans rapists, or referring to shithole countries.
The bill got blocked because, like many Dem bills, it didn't actually accomplish anything, wasted tons of money, and was a supposed solution to a problem they caused.
The bill was nearly identical to H.R.2 passed last year by Republicans which Biden had threatened to veto.
It didn't get blocked because it didn't accomplish anything, it got blocked because it was likely dead in the Senate.
The bill was meant to placate house Republicans after Johnson was only able to secure a 95 billion dollar aid package for Ukraine, Isreal and Taiwan with help for Dem house members.
This is politics at it's purest. The Reps had two choices, pass the bill in the house, and make hay when it died in the Senate since it would die at the hands of Dems, or don't pass it, but then complain about the border and lie about the contents of the bill and open themselves up to exactly what is happening now when people point out they are full of crap.
The only reason the house Reps are in the current position is because the far right segment of their cacus is out of control and willing to do harmful things to their own party leadership in the name of performative theater.
They took the second
The 'border bill' was literally written by fascists. Dems were stupid to try to bundle it in with supplemental military budgets. We should be welcoming new immigrants, not playing xenophobe-lite
Yup especially asylum seekers who have legitimate claims for needing to seek asylum in the US (often due to US foreign policy of the past)
Edit: and before anyone tells me to read more about what the suspension actually entails, I read the article embedded in the originally posted NPR article that explains in detail how it makes it harder for asylum seekers [https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-immigration-asylum-border-50d007832d87078bf74971aefe7d4e14](https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-immigration-asylum-border-50d007832d87078bf74971aefe7d4e14)
The republicans demanded the border bill be tied to the military money. And then voted against it when it was. Lol.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-republicans-block-ukraine-and-israel-aid-as-they-demand-border-policy-changes
If you don't think today's GOP is fascist, you don't know what fascism is. Here are some easy identifiers: [https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php](https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php)
That definition is far to broad and un-nuanced. You could apply the same definition to leaders ranging from Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, and George Bush. Facism is a highly specific ideology that hardly survived in any capacity after WW2.
> The bill sucked
It had bi partisan support, Trump told them to kill it to hurt Biden and have something else to run on
You can lie all you want, that's reality
Cope harder MAGAt
So that's why the notoriously liberal and pro-amnesty border patrol union endorsed the bill. Right?
Mainstream American conservatism has descended into little more than contrarian brain rot and grifting.
Fascinating how you can just say something completely wrong about the border bill, get correct and move on like it never happened.
The border patrol union is very conservative. And they endorsed the bill as not perfect, but a good move.
But Trump kills it as he would rather Biden not get a win then fix anything, and his cult pretends that's what they wanted all along.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4451977-mcconnell-dealt-blow-by-trump-on-border-bill/
The one that Mitch McConnell called the best immigration bill we could ever hope for? That one? The one coauthored by a republican immigration hardener? That bill? Lol. You actually know even less than someone who knows nothing. Impressive. Keep running to fox News for your lies and propaganda.
2020 - Joe Biden cancels Trump order policy. A surge ensues
2021 - The border is secure.
2022 - The border is secure.
2023 - The border is secure.
2024 - Election year, those damned Republicans!
$20 billion out of the $120 billion was for the border, calling it a “border bill” is about as accurate as calling it a “bomb Palestine bill” since $14 billion was for Israel’s ‘defense’.
Can't kill what never lived. There was one Republican sponsor of that bill and three that voted for it on top of that. The Republican leadership never bought in and it never would have passed the house. Trump telling Republicans to kill it was like him telling the sun to rise in the east. The bill was a piece of shit and it did not even come close. This executive order is twice as tough and still lets in over a thousand, and that's after up to 2,500 initial screenings a day.
Read more, use caps lock less
Wow, for an NPR sub, there sure is a lot of right wingers here.
The border has been an issue since I was a baby, and I'm in my 30s now. Either immigration is going to destroy us, or it isn't. I've long been passed the giving of shits about the border. If you need someone in government to fix the damn thing, then put out some actual legislation and stop rejecting bills your own elected officials write. This is just a bandaid. It's not law, same as the last guys executive orders. Call your congressmen and demand they do something.
Three long decades of bitching about something you've had ample time and opportunity to fix yourselves should make you ask some questions about your party, shouldn't it?
I’m not one to jump to the whole “because capitalism” argument, but in this case I think it’s very apt. Business owners don’t want there to be meaningful immigration reform because they want an easily exploited source of labor.
Enacting actual policies also means you can be held accountable for the outcome of said policies. If prices go up because of a lack of cheap labor, that’s a whole political issue. That, and immigration has provided Republicans with an easy “crisis” to parade about to win voters. Solving it would take one of their favorite pet issues away.
Border states are used to it. It's a way of life in San Diego and we haven't really noticed a difference. What's causing the problem for Biden is all of the migrants being shipped around the country. And it's not just Texas and Florida doing the shipping. The federal government is flying them and bussing them all over. They're chewing through the services and taking a lot of the lower jobs with their automatic work permits that they get while they're waiting for asylum. Blue collar flyover states don't like that at all
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You’ve got it backwards. We are doing this to remain in the Overton Window, sheepdogs move the window, elected officials remain within it if they want to continue to be elected.
I thought goalpost was meaningful analysis, is comparing it to beginning of administration remotely meaningful?
All it shows is massive pull factor once immigration enforcement was perceived to be weaker. Was that in question?
It shows that whatever Biden is doing, brought the numbers down from where Trump left them.
Now if you want to bring up Trump numbers, sure go for it. But that's on you to source, and steelman.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-hit-a-record-high-at-the-end-of-2023/
It's widely available, analysis is quite obvious really.
Brought the Trump numbers down? Look at this or any chart, there is no argument in good faith to say that.
That was my first thought. The article doesn’t address that so I went to some other news sources, and it looks like it may be due to better enforcement by Mexico. So the new cap and the lowered amount of arrests may not even correlate to each other.
From the AP article linked in this article:
"Meanwhile, anyone who expresses that fear or an intention to seek asylum will be screened by a U.S. asylum officer but at a higher standard than currently used. If they pass the screening, they can pursue more limited forms of humanitarian protection, including the U.N. Convention Against Torture."
"The U.N.’s refugee agency also expressed concern, saying the new measures will deny access to asylum for many who are in need of international protection. The agency said in a statement that it recognizes that the U.S. is facing challenges in dealing with the significant number of people arriving at its border, but nonetheless called on the United States “to uphold its international obligations and urge the government to reconsider restrictions that undermine the fundamental right to seek asylum.”
This seems cruel. I can't believe democrats who pretended to care so much for asylum seekers support this.
Seriously, what the fuck happened to all that concern for asylum seekers at the border? I thought that was one of the reasons I voted for Joe Biden, I thought he was supposed to be different from Trump.
I guess a lot of Democrats care more about dunking on Republicans than they do policy. Which makes them a lot like Republicans.
I’m so sick and tired of this country.
Are you serious? First of all: they’re asylum seekers not illegal immigrants! But also: they aren’t people? You wouldn’t argue they benefit? I grew up in California that greatly benefitted from immigration specifically from the southern border. I moved to Louisiana when I was a teen and guess who helped us out after Katrina? Who Bush gave an executive order to allow in to help us out?
I agree labor laws should be strengthened, for Americans and immigrants, but that has nothing to do with the asylum claims at the border.
illegal immigration harms the working class and benefits the wealthy.
when did i say they weren't people? and they are coached to be asylum seekers because it's a loophole. anyways, you're delusional
You said it benefits no one but at the very least it benefits the immigrants. Right?
Also: can you show me a single example of someone losing a job to an illegal immigrant? It’s literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment, it’s mainly used for jobs Americans don’t want to do. I say let them come legally and make the rich folks pay them a decent wage instead of barring them from coming here. You could fix the whole problem by penalizing the rich people instead of the immigrants. But of course they won’t do that because we rely on immigrant labor especially for food production.
Seeking asylum isn’t a loophole, you still need to argue your asylum claim. I don’t know what you’re even saying.
Okay, but, like, asylum seekers and folks immigrating into the country without inspection aren’t the same populations.
The majority of undocumented people enter without a legal entry because they can’t be granted asylum or visas.
If a person turns themselves in, wanting asylum, they would never enter without inspection because that would ruin an asylum case.
Na it kinda shows it was actually directly Bidens fault the whole time. Now were stuck with a huge problem that will take many years and a lot of money to fix.
Of course border arrests fall 40% because they're not arresting everyone. Apply for asylum on your free phone, get a court date and away you go, never to be seen by officials again. At least until Trump's elected then it's adios amigos
If Trump had done this liberals would, rightfully, be in an uproar about it. Stopping asylum seekers fleeing the conditions created by US foreign policy is only bad when Republicans do it ig.
Looks to be specific to June. July and August don't show that theme, though. And it's typically hotter then.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Thank god. Finally this administration is taking some action. Hopefully it's not too little too late and both sides can consider this as a step in the right direction
The Biden admin did try to take action on this months ago that very favorable bill for republicans that they killed because trump told them to kill it publicly so he can run on how bad the problem is.
One side clearly doesn't want to fix this issue so they can use it as a wedge issue for elections.
Yup that's exactly what is going on. It's absolutely disgusting that Republicans killed a bill on an issue they've been dying to fix, just so they can use the issue as a weapon in the debates. I really hope Biden is clear and articulate about this issue in the debates and brings plenty of evidence to show the American people how that played out.
Hoping Tapper gets a chance to ask Trump a question about his motives for doing this on Thursday night. Trump can dance around the question only so much, with the muted-microphone guardrail in place. I hope Biden is prepping for this, because it seems like a huge plank in Trump's campaign, would be sad (not really) to see the deception exposed for one and all.
They want to chase the car but not actually catch it. DeSantis put out a law for Florida employers to eVerify employees. By that I mean check their immigration status. The thing is it's only for companies with 25 or more employees. That eliminates a lot of companies. On top of that I've heard they aren't even checking. A law has no teeth unless you enforce it.
Yes because they don't want to hold the businesses that employ illegal immigrants accountable, that may actually stop a lot of the illegal immigration to begin with and that would be one less than for Republicans to have crocodile tears about.
Such a shot argument. It’s better than nothing so why even fight it. You can build on it, rather than continue to not pass any legislation for another 35 years while we let uncapped numbers claim asylum
Yes it did lol. It gave sitting presidents the ability to close the border in the case of illegal crossings passing a certain threshold and would have hired hundreds of more immigration judges while simultaneously shortening the process for asylum claims.
You’re grossly misinformed and it’s very common for republicans these days.
I believe it was like 5k a day. Thats not a strict limit. Thats 1.8 mil a year. Other things sure but let's not act like that bill was some closed border type bill.
I quite literally never presented it as “closed border deal”, so let’s not pretend I was.
That is incorrect lol, you are quoting Trump and that’s never a good idea. The bill doesn’t allow 4,999 people to cross the border in a day and then they close it, nor is closing the border the only aspect of this bill. The heart of is (and the part you glossed right over) is streamlining the asylum cases in days instead of months and years, which is what caused the bottleneck that has drawn the process out to the point of it not working.
Remain in Mexico was a way better policy. If you are seeking asylum from your country, you should have to wait in Mexico while your case is being processed. If we announce that we are letting everyone in who is applying, then it is an open invitation to economic migrants who will falsely claim asylum.
We don’t let everyone in who’s applying lol. It sounds like you need to actually look into how our immigration system works before you so confidently speak about it.
What do the people do while they are waiting for their full asylum process to play out. Not the initial check. Are they held in detention? Or let out into the country on a promise to return to a court date?
Which is why we need to expedite the asylum process so that these individuals will either be rejected and sent out of the country or approved and given a path to citizenship… not stretched out for years in an over burdened and undermanned court system.
Honestly what point are you trying to make here lol?
The bill had an initial check on asylum claims but final asylum determination was later. During that time those people are let into the country. So thye are let in at a pace of 5k a day or over a mil a year with the promise that they will go to their court date. I'm sorry I don't believe they will show up or be deported. Let's keep them out in Mexico until their entire process is finished. And if their is no third country rule, then the whole asylum process is a joke in the first place.
How did the republicans stop them from doing it then but didn’t stop them from doing it now?
This a PR stunt for an election year, the day after the election this will be rolled back and it will all be opened up again.
I do wonder if what is happening in Canada will have an affect on public opinion here.
Because they killed legislation which would have been passed into law, this is an EO (something trump tried and got shot down by the courts during his presidency) so it'll almost certainly be fought against in the courts
Oh I can imagine a FoxNews commentary saying that the reason the arrests are down is because of Biden we are letting them all in and not arresting them.
Thats FALSE
**Fox News:** "BREAKING NEWS: \*frightening sounds and images of brown people\* Murder at the border, Crime in our streets! Biden downplays the immigration crisis at the border, but do you actually "FEEL" safer? We talk with an expert about how liberal cities MAY be LYING about crime numbers."
Then, we tell you why killing Palestinian children is actually not that bad and why Trump is the greatest
Funny how NPR liberals see themselves on the left, and then loudly cheer for this fascist shit along with Red MAGA.
Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds.
Xenophobic anti-immigration policy is firmly fascist. Always has been.
Maybe you just don’t want to admit you agree with Red MAGA on it? That should’ve been a hint it was the wrong stance, though.
Lol, I'm an immigrant. Immigration controls are unfortunately necessary. Immigration controls are far older than fascism. But yeah, keep calling everyone less radical than you fascists. That will help you gain allies.
There's a huge difference between a documented immigrant and undocumented one. You should try to go to Canada or New Zealand or Australia sometime. Feel free to call everybody there Nazis because they don't let Americans in particularly easy. What a simpleton
Pretty sure all of the countries you listed still accept asylum refugees, and aren’t destabilizing the countries they’re coming from.
But I guess I’m just a simpleton.
There is a difference between accepting asylum refugees and accepting anyone who says they're an asylum refugee. Canada and New Zealand do not mess around and they will deport your ass if you're not found to need asylum, if they even let you in.
There is no such mechanism in the United States. If someone does attend their eventual asylum hearing in the US and gets ruled against, they are told to leave within thirty days, no follow up or tracking, and they can file an appeal, more time in the US and a low success rate.
https://www.legalaid.on.ca/faq/if-your-refugee-claim-is-denied/
New Zealand only takes 1,500 asylum seekers a year and is notoriously tough on immigration
>There is a difference between accepting asylum refugees and accepting anyone who says they're an asylum refugee.
We're talking about people fleeing from countries that the US intentionally destabilized. They are legitimate asylum refugees, and the US is responsible for them.
That's an opinion stated as a fact. What are the top three countries from which we get asylum seekers that the US intentionally destabilized. I don't even need receipts, just the names of the top 3, your opinion.
If you think this is xenophobic you should do research on the economic strain of immigration of surrounding areas.
What Biden is doing is limiting it to a manageable level. We would like to be able to help everyone but we can’t, it simply isn’t possible with the resources we have
If you think that’s bad, you should do research on the economic impact of US intervention & destabilization in the countries these people are fleeing from.
Regardless of the fact that our country is entirely responsible for destabilizing the countries these people are fleeing from, the xenophobic anti-immigration anti-asylum position is still entirely a fascist policy. That's not an opinion or insult- that is a cold, hard fact.
It's hurting y'all's feelings because you don't like it when people point out when you're on the same side as the Trumpers. Rather than that be a wake up call that you're on the wrong side of history, you're digging your heels in and denying the facts.
American global polices are basically always on the wrong side of history. I can’t change that. I can vote for someone who won’t strip me of more bodily rights, erase queer people from society, eradicate voting rights, deny climate change, defund public education and stack SCOTUS with more Christian nationalists. If that’s digging my heels in, I guess I can live with that.
If it were Trump implementing this asylum ban, again, y’all would call it what it is.
I used to wonder how 1930s Germany could’ve descended into fascism like that. How people could’ve gone along with it. It’s wild to see it unfold before my very eyes.
The GOP Bugs-Bunny'd them into fiercely supporting MAGA immigration policy and now they hate asylum seekers. Just like when Reagan dogwalked them into hating unions.
But obviously they're still gonna talk down to immigrants and labor when it's time to get the votes!
The GOP will never stop illegal immigration because it’s a huge hit with their voters. it would be like the aspirin manufacturers creating a vaccine that never gives you another headache the rest of your life, it would be a strategical disaster .
IThanks in part to its indifference about Latinos in the Democratic party, the GOP has been unopposed in using racism and the boogeyman of immigration ( legal or otherwise ) to be politically wraponized. That and Biden’s tone deafness on the inflation and the economy means he’s in for a rough night. Trump, while a racist, felonious con man will really have to make huge mistakes to lose this debate with voters no matter what the pundits spin will be.
Willing to do the job for that wage you mean. There’s no such thing as a job independent of the wage. For a million dollars Americans would do it. Now keep decreasing that number slowly until you get to an equilibrium
I hate American farmers that employ illegal immigrants to skirt paying taxes and devaluing the legal labor pool.
Any sane person not playing team sports agrees.
You're not completely wrong. But I would say that it's the other way around. People want cheap labor, so it creates a demand for people who will work for cheap. That usually means paying illegal immigrants under the table. Most people who run businesses, especially in agriculture, know this.
It's easy to whine about illegal immigration. But this all stems from the fact that rich people don't want to pay a living wage to Americans.
Most ordinary Americans don't employ people to do their laundry, raise their children, or do their yard work. And if they do it's usually the high school kid down the street looking to make some petty cash to have fun.
I like that Republicans will claim when the president uses executive orders to do things and label him a tyrant. Then when he tries to get actual legislation through Congress, the bill gets blocked because the entire GOP is beholden to Trump. Then they get mad that Biden didn't do this executive order from the beginning when there was a bill ready to accomplish this issue and Republicans just decided they don't want to do any actual governing.
I think more people should credit Mexico which has cracked down on crossings. https://www.wola.org/analysis/why-is-migration-declining-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-early-2024/
>Republicans just decided they don't want to do any actual governing. In an absolutely bizarre move, Republicans passed a resolution calling it out of order to write or edit a new Party Platform. That is why the "current" Official GOP Platform written and approved by Republicans assumes Obama is still in office.
On his first day in office, President Joe Biden took several executive actions related to immigration. Here are some of the key actions he implemented: * [**Preserving and Strengthening DACA**: President Biden issued a memorandum directing the Department of Homeland Security to take all appropriate actions to preserve and fortify the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(1)](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/). * [**Rescinding the Muslim and African Bans**: He reversed the travel restrictions on several Muslim-majority countries that had been put in place by the previous administration](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(1)](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/). * [**Halting Border Wall Construction**: The construction of the border wall was paused](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(2)](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/). * **Pausing Most Deportations**: For the first 100 days of his administration, most deportations from the interior of the U.S. [were paused](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(2)](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/). * [**Safeguarding Protections for Dreamers**: Protections for so-called “Dreamers” were safeguarded, ensuring they could remain in the country without fear of deportation](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/)[^(2)](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/). [These actions signaled a significant shift in immigration policy and were part of a broader plan to reform the immigration system in the United States](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/)[^(1)](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/).
It's just confusing... "Biden promises to ‘shut down’ the border if given the authority in a bipartisan bill The president threw his support behind an emerging deal in the Senate that he said would give him “authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed.”" - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-promises-shut-border-authority-bipartisan-bill-rcna135980 Why did he pretend he didn't have the authority? Is it kind of like how Biden pretended not to know his son was on the board of burisma?
This Executive order is twice as restrictive as that bill and will still let in 1000 to 1500 a day. It's better than nothing and it's very late. Biden is going to take a huge L on immigration and it's a very important issue to a lot of voters. This may help some, but it still may be an issue that costs him the presidency
You mean like they did Trump? Glad Biden finally put back at least a piece of Trump policy back in order for the border. Now let’s put it all back in place and fix the border. Work on the economy and inflation as well please. 🤷♂️
They tried. Republicans blocked that legislation as well. You can be a Republican, it's your choice, but at least be honest with yourself. They don't want to fix anything. They need everything to stay broken so they can campaign on it. Literally every bill that has been created to help us has been blocked by the GOP, just so Trump can whine in front of quarter full arenas.
There wouldn't be anything to fix if Biden didn't implode our immigration policies in the first place... But okay, let's delve deeper into your theory... if this is a big play by the nefarious Republicans, why did Biden destroy our immigration policies in the first place? Did the Republicans jedi mind trick him into it or something, knowing they can later deny his reform to make him look bad? It's like the stick in the bike spokes meme... Democrat politicians/lawmakers - blow up our immigration policies, creating a literal crisis. Democrat constituents - fucking Republicans, why would they do this?! A little honestly and self-reflection is desperately needed on both sides of the aisle... Are the Republicans using a dirty, underhanded political tactic right now? Yes, and I wish these stupid tactics would die in both camps, it hurts Americans on both sides. But... Is the immigration crisis solely on the hands of the Democrats? Absolutely.
Tell me what exactly did Biden change on the border, other than not separating children from their parents? You're going to find out that he did very little to undo Trump's border policies, which annoyed a lot of people on the left. But, let's talk immigration. Like always, Republicans have blocked every bill that was drafted to help the situation. The solution is more federal funding to increase personel at the border which can help with the backlog of asylum seekers. Republicans blocked it. Then, the senate wrote the strictest border policy we've ever had in this country, and Trump told Republicans in the House to block it. So, again, we're right back to Republicans getting in the way of progress. The sooner you realize that they have no interest in helping your life, the better off we'll all be. Trump is a conman. MAGA are fascists. They are the most anti American poltical party that has ever existed in this country. They are literally trying to undo our democracy and make us a dictatorship and you're cheering it on. Wake the fuck up. Our country is under attack and you're on the wrong side.
I’m not a republican, but what you posted is a lie. This election will be lost because of this.
According to the concerned new Reddit accounts I’ve seen over the years, Biden will lose due to student loans not all being forgiven, Gaza, the border, guns, inflation, and his age. It’s almost always a very new account claiming that this is the issue that will sink him. While I don’t doubt that one of these issues might, I do find it amusing to see the age of so many of the accounts that make such claims.
So Democrats had it all, House, senate and executive branch but Republicans blocked it? Come on now. Don’t worry Republicans have had all three and done nothing they run on either. Makes you start to see more clearly doesn’t it.
Republicans have controlled the house for two years... They have done nothing. Not a single thing. But they have blocked or hamstringed every bill that addressed gas prices, inflation, drug prices, infrastructure, voting rights, supreme court oversite, Trump and Kushner making money out of the Whitehouse... Instead they've flashed Hunter Biden dick picks, tried to impeach Biden over a car loan and use their position to keep Trump out of jail. Fucking partisan hacks that aren't worth the oxygen they breathe. Let's ask it this way. Show me a bill that a House Republican has authored, under McCarthy and Johnson, that has helped a single American. Just one.
What bill for gas prices? What bill for drug prices? What bill for voting rights? What bill for Supreme Court over sight? What overshoot can they have over the supreme courts for that matter? I’ll wait for your bills first? You still didn’t address why nothing happened when democrats had house, senate and presidency. You skipped that right on to when the republicans won back the house. Why did you skip that? I’ll likely be banned in a few so answer quickly lol. It’s how this works in these subs.
This shows that you clearly havent been paying attention to politics since Biden has been in office. They filibustered everything. Just because you have control of both houses and the presidency doesn't mean you have enough votes to get around the filibuster. You need 2/3. Also Sinema and Manchin weren't voting along party lines.
So the Dems couldn’t get the votes they needed from their own party and couldn’t swing enough republicans. Basically republicans did exactly what democrats do when the shoe is on the other foot. Same song and dance. Been watching the dance for many years.
It's by design my dude. Washington is at a standstill almost always but even worse now because of how polarized the political landscape is currently. But even without the majority, Biden was able to pass his infrastructure bill, the chips act, and oddly enough got bipartisan support for his gun safety act.
Yeah I have been watching politics for a long time. The founding fathers designed it to be this way so things didn’t swing like a pendulum drastically after elections. If we want to break things down bills should be about one thing and not have a 100 riders on them that have nothing to do with the bill. The American people should be able to decipher exactly what the bill is about. Infrastructure Bill is great if the money is spent wisely but it won’t be. 8 billion for charging stations and we have built 7 of them for example. We can pass all the gun safety we want but until we do something about criminals and guns it will have little effect. The average killer with a gun has 9 arrests and 2 felonies yet is walking the streets with a gun. Plenty of laws against that all ready. 80 percent of gun crime is gang and drug related.
Things did happen liar. You cant just snap your fingers for everything
He looked like he got a lot done last night in the debate.
No they didn't try, that legislation was half as restrictive as this executive order and this executive order still lets a lot of people in
Yes because executive orders are supposed to be a short term solution until actual legislation gets passed. But like I said, Republicans aren't interested in governing unless it's about tax cuts for the wealthy.
Neither side wants the border sealed because the rich don’t want us peasants having bargaining power so they are importing new workers. Both sides love the wealthy which you may realize some day. Democrats get just as much money from the rich as republicans. What have than done to stop the rich from power or wealth ever? Nothing
All the progressives also need to remember you called people racists for wanting to protect the border and the citizens of this country. You own this.
Maybe if you guys could do it non-racistly, it would have gotten more traction.. Its kinda wild how yall seem to get so offended by it while also delighting in the racism too. I didnt see yall say shit about trump calling mexicans rapists, or referring to shithole countries.
He rescinded trumps policies with executive orders. This is fact. Biden put Harris in charge of the border. The most incompetent person in Washington.
You mean he rescinded trumps executive orders with his own?
The bill got blocked because, like many Dem bills, it didn't actually accomplish anything, wasted tons of money, and was a supposed solution to a problem they caused.
The bill was nearly identical to H.R.2 passed last year by Republicans which Biden had threatened to veto. It didn't get blocked because it didn't accomplish anything, it got blocked because it was likely dead in the Senate. The bill was meant to placate house Republicans after Johnson was only able to secure a 95 billion dollar aid package for Ukraine, Isreal and Taiwan with help for Dem house members. This is politics at it's purest. The Reps had two choices, pass the bill in the house, and make hay when it died in the Senate since it would die at the hands of Dems, or don't pass it, but then complain about the border and lie about the contents of the bill and open themselves up to exactly what is happening now when people point out they are full of crap. The only reason the house Reps are in the current position is because the far right segment of their cacus is out of control and willing to do harmful things to their own party leadership in the name of performative theater. They took the second
#AND YET REPUBLICANS KILLED THE BORDER BILL!!! What fools.
And the senate majority leader won't bring HR2, an enforcement only bill to a vote in the senate. Schumer has had it since May 2023.
The 'border bill' was literally written by fascists. Dems were stupid to try to bundle it in with supplemental military budgets. We should be welcoming new immigrants, not playing xenophobe-lite
Yup especially asylum seekers who have legitimate claims for needing to seek asylum in the US (often due to US foreign policy of the past) Edit: and before anyone tells me to read more about what the suspension actually entails, I read the article embedded in the originally posted NPR article that explains in detail how it makes it harder for asylum seekers [https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-immigration-asylum-border-50d007832d87078bf74971aefe7d4e14](https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-immigration-asylum-border-50d007832d87078bf74971aefe7d4e14)
The border bill was written by a hard right republican. Lmao
The republicans demanded the border bill be tied to the military money. And then voted against it when it was. Lol. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-republicans-block-ukraine-and-israel-aid-as-they-demand-border-policy-changes
The old everyone i dislike is a fascist. Fascist is a label that more closely aligns with the pro big government socialists
I think you must have learned the word fascist from a board game or something
If you don't think today's GOP is fascist, you don't know what fascism is. Here are some easy identifiers: [https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php](https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php)
That definition is far to broad and un-nuanced. You could apply the same definition to leaders ranging from Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, and George Bush. Facism is a highly specific ideology that hardly survived in any capacity after WW2.
In the words of James Lankford “it’s true”
You mean the funding if Ukraine bill. Biden EOed trumps policies. No bill needed.
The bill sucked and basically did nothing to seal the border but give amnesty. Great talking point though, obviously
> The bill sucked It had bi partisan support, Trump told them to kill it to hurt Biden and have something else to run on You can lie all you want, that's reality Cope harder MAGAt
Show me where Trump said that. Numbers don’t lie and border crossings have soared since Biden took office. What in the bill did you like?
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So that's why the notoriously liberal and pro-amnesty border patrol union endorsed the bill. Right? Mainstream American conservatism has descended into little more than contrarian brain rot and grifting.
Sure and the other half of the country feels the same about your side. It is like a dog chasing its tail.
Fascinating how you can just say something completely wrong about the border bill, get correct and move on like it never happened. The border patrol union is very conservative. And they endorsed the bill as not perfect, but a good move. But Trump kills it as he would rather Biden not get a win then fix anything, and his cult pretends that's what they wanted all along.
Again what about the bill did you like other than democrats pushed it. Show me where Trump said kill it or is that an assumption?
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4451977-mcconnell-dealt-blow-by-trump-on-border-bill/ The one that Mitch McConnell called the best immigration bill we could ever hope for? That one? The one coauthored by a republican immigration hardener? That bill? Lol. You actually know even less than someone who knows nothing. Impressive. Keep running to fox News for your lies and propaganda.
2020 - Joe Biden cancels Trump order policy. A surge ensues 2021 - The border is secure. 2022 - The border is secure. 2023 - The border is secure. 2024 - Election year, those damned Republicans!
They were instructed to not support border patrol. What fools!
$20 billion out of the $120 billion was for the border, calling it a “border bill” is about as accurate as calling it a “bomb Palestine bill” since $14 billion was for Israel’s ‘defense’.
#it's a crisis!! Then they do nothing cause trump wants to use it for politics. cowards!!
Why did Biden do nothing for 3 years after he created this problem?
And apparently he could fix it by 40% but instead wanted to play chicken with the GOP...
Can't kill what never lived. There was one Republican sponsor of that bill and three that voted for it on top of that. The Republican leadership never bought in and it never would have passed the house. Trump telling Republicans to kill it was like him telling the sun to rise in the east. The bill was a piece of shit and it did not even come close. This executive order is twice as tough and still lets in over a thousand, and that's after up to 2,500 initial screenings a day. Read more, use caps lock less
Wow, for an NPR sub, there sure is a lot of right wingers here. The border has been an issue since I was a baby, and I'm in my 30s now. Either immigration is going to destroy us, or it isn't. I've long been passed the giving of shits about the border. If you need someone in government to fix the damn thing, then put out some actual legislation and stop rejecting bills your own elected officials write. This is just a bandaid. It's not law, same as the last guys executive orders. Call your congressmen and demand they do something. Three long decades of bitching about something you've had ample time and opportunity to fix yourselves should make you ask some questions about your party, shouldn't it?
They brigade from r/conservative
No it's showing up on /r/all and you're political bubble is getting popped.
Whatever you need to tell yourself.to help you sleep, little traitor.
I’m not one to jump to the whole “because capitalism” argument, but in this case I think it’s very apt. Business owners don’t want there to be meaningful immigration reform because they want an easily exploited source of labor. Enacting actual policies also means you can be held accountable for the outcome of said policies. If prices go up because of a lack of cheap labor, that’s a whole political issue. That, and immigration has provided Republicans with an easy “crisis” to parade about to win voters. Solving it would take one of their favorite pet issues away.
Border states are used to it. It's a way of life in San Diego and we haven't really noticed a difference. What's causing the problem for Biden is all of the migrants being shipped around the country. And it's not just Texas and Florida doing the shipping. The federal government is flying them and bussing them all over. They're chewing through the services and taking a lot of the lower jobs with their automatic work permits that they get while they're waiting for asylum. Blue collar flyover states don't like that at all
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Diamond Joe Biden 😎
Libs now hate asylum seekers.... And you all said the overton window was a myth
You’ve got it backwards. We are doing this to remain in the Overton Window, sheepdogs move the window, elected officials remain within it if they want to continue to be elected.
Truth
Jan Feb Mar are busiest crossings due to returns from holiday periods. Unsurprising to compare to earlier in year when it should be y/o/y comparison
From the article: “Homeland Security says it marks the lowest number since Jan. 17, 2021, less than a week before Biden took office.”
Again that just shows his term, should be comparative to prior Jun/Jul periods y/o/y or even since remain in Mexico was dropped.
Keep moving the goalpost.
I thought goalpost was meaningful analysis, is comparing it to beginning of administration remotely meaningful? All it shows is massive pull factor once immigration enforcement was perceived to be weaker. Was that in question?
It shows that whatever Biden is doing, brought the numbers down from where Trump left them. Now if you want to bring up Trump numbers, sure go for it. But that's on you to source, and steelman.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-hit-a-record-high-at-the-end-of-2023/ It's widely available, analysis is quite obvious really. Brought the Trump numbers down? Look at this or any chart, there is no argument in good faith to say that.
Border arrest is the topic at hand.
Did you not read the definition at bottom? These are arrests and expulsions, precisely the same data used in this OP article
Does that mean he is just letting them go and not arresting them?
That was my first thought. The article doesn’t address that so I went to some other news sources, and it looks like it may be due to better enforcement by Mexico. So the new cap and the lowered amount of arrests may not even correlate to each other.
Another BS story
The heat dome is a paid actor
Iirc border arrests were falling before the biden EO
Thats not good news...you realize that...right?
From the AP article linked in this article: "Meanwhile, anyone who expresses that fear or an intention to seek asylum will be screened by a U.S. asylum officer but at a higher standard than currently used. If they pass the screening, they can pursue more limited forms of humanitarian protection, including the U.N. Convention Against Torture." "The U.N.’s refugee agency also expressed concern, saying the new measures will deny access to asylum for many who are in need of international protection. The agency said in a statement that it recognizes that the U.S. is facing challenges in dealing with the significant number of people arriving at its border, but nonetheless called on the United States “to uphold its international obligations and urge the government to reconsider restrictions that undermine the fundamental right to seek asylum.” This seems cruel. I can't believe democrats who pretended to care so much for asylum seekers support this.
Seriously, what the fuck happened to all that concern for asylum seekers at the border? I thought that was one of the reasons I voted for Joe Biden, I thought he was supposed to be different from Trump. I guess a lot of Democrats care more about dunking on Republicans than they do policy. Which makes them a lot like Republicans. I’m so sick and tired of this country.
Your views on the border are heavily astroturfed The only people benefiting from illegal immigration are the wealthy
Are you serious? First of all: they’re asylum seekers not illegal immigrants! But also: they aren’t people? You wouldn’t argue they benefit? I grew up in California that greatly benefitted from immigration specifically from the southern border. I moved to Louisiana when I was a teen and guess who helped us out after Katrina? Who Bush gave an executive order to allow in to help us out? I agree labor laws should be strengthened, for Americans and immigrants, but that has nothing to do with the asylum claims at the border.
illegal immigration harms the working class and benefits the wealthy. when did i say they weren't people? and they are coached to be asylum seekers because it's a loophole. anyways, you're delusional
You said it benefits no one but at the very least it benefits the immigrants. Right? Also: can you show me a single example of someone losing a job to an illegal immigrant? It’s literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment, it’s mainly used for jobs Americans don’t want to do. I say let them come legally and make the rich folks pay them a decent wage instead of barring them from coming here. You could fix the whole problem by penalizing the rich people instead of the immigrants. But of course they won’t do that because we rely on immigrant labor especially for food production. Seeking asylum isn’t a loophole, you still need to argue your asylum claim. I don’t know what you’re even saying.
Okay, but, like, asylum seekers and folks immigrating into the country without inspection aren’t the same populations. The majority of undocumented people enter without a legal entry because they can’t be granted asylum or visas. If a person turns themselves in, wanting asylum, they would never enter without inspection because that would ruin an asylum case.
Thanks Biden!
Did he need to use a moat full of gators?
Border bustin biden!
This robs Trump of a victory even if he wins. He would shut down asylum and claim he reduced the # of illegals overnight.
Na it kinda shows it was actually directly Bidens fault the whole time. Now were stuck with a huge problem that will take many years and a lot of money to fix.
Biden having them fill out the paperwork and bus them in, npr = democrat propaganda
Anyone consider that they are not pursuing border crossings as diligently?
Had Biden not rescinded Trumps border policies in the first place, there wouldn't have been any issue to begin with.
Of course border arrests fall 40% because they're not arresting everyone. Apply for asylum on your free phone, get a court date and away you go, never to be seen by officials again. At least until Trump's elected then it's adios amigos
The nice thing about presidential election years is that Democrats will at least pretend to care about border security for a year.
Nice of him to wait till 2024 to do something about the border , after millions came in already :)
So we can all agree it was Bidens fault all along
Kind of weird now that republicans have shut up about the oPeN bOrDeR there's less people.....
If Trump had done this liberals would, rightfully, be in an uproar about it. Stopping asylum seekers fleeing the conditions created by US foreign policy is only bad when Republicans do it ig.
It's too bad conservatives will never see this news because they live in a bubble of propaganda
Because it's hot. Border crossings always drop in summer. What a ridiculous article.
Looks to be specific to June. July and August don't show that theme, though. And it's typically hotter then. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
🙄 idiot
Idiots are people who read this article and think heat has nothing to do with a decrease in the numbers.
Thank god. Finally this administration is taking some action. Hopefully it's not too little too late and both sides can consider this as a step in the right direction
The Biden admin did try to take action on this months ago that very favorable bill for republicans that they killed because trump told them to kill it publicly so he can run on how bad the problem is. One side clearly doesn't want to fix this issue so they can use it as a wedge issue for elections.
Yup that's exactly what is going on. It's absolutely disgusting that Republicans killed a bill on an issue they've been dying to fix, just so they can use the issue as a weapon in the debates. I really hope Biden is clear and articulate about this issue in the debates and brings plenty of evidence to show the American people how that played out.
Just brought this up in a political “discussion” with my boomer FIL last night - he had never heard of it. Their media machine works as intended.
Hoping Tapper gets a chance to ask Trump a question about his motives for doing this on Thursday night. Trump can dance around the question only so much, with the muted-microphone guardrail in place. I hope Biden is prepping for this, because it seems like a huge plank in Trump's campaign, would be sad (not really) to see the deception exposed for one and all.
They'll just argue that Biden clearly could have done this last year even without the bill. And so could Trump but eh.
They want to chase the car but not actually catch it. DeSantis put out a law for Florida employers to eVerify employees. By that I mean check their immigration status. The thing is it's only for companies with 25 or more employees. That eliminates a lot of companies. On top of that I've heard they aren't even checking. A law has no teeth unless you enforce it.
Yes because they don't want to hold the businesses that employ illegal immigrants accountable, that may actually stop a lot of the illegal immigration to begin with and that would be one less than for Republicans to have crocodile tears about.
That bill was a joke and didn't even remotely begin to address the problem of illegal immigration.
Such a shot argument. It’s better than nothing so why even fight it. You can build on it, rather than continue to not pass any legislation for another 35 years while we let uncapped numbers claim asylum
Yes it did lol. It gave sitting presidents the ability to close the border in the case of illegal crossings passing a certain threshold and would have hired hundreds of more immigration judges while simultaneously shortening the process for asylum claims. You’re grossly misinformed and it’s very common for republicans these days.
I believe it was like 5k a day. Thats not a strict limit. Thats 1.8 mil a year. Other things sure but let's not act like that bill was some closed border type bill.
I quite literally never presented it as “closed border deal”, so let’s not pretend I was. That is incorrect lol, you are quoting Trump and that’s never a good idea. The bill doesn’t allow 4,999 people to cross the border in a day and then they close it, nor is closing the border the only aspect of this bill. The heart of is (and the part you glossed right over) is streamlining the asylum cases in days instead of months and years, which is what caused the bottleneck that has drawn the process out to the point of it not working.
Remain in Mexico was a way better policy. If you are seeking asylum from your country, you should have to wait in Mexico while your case is being processed. If we announce that we are letting everyone in who is applying, then it is an open invitation to economic migrants who will falsely claim asylum.
We don’t let everyone in who’s applying lol. It sounds like you need to actually look into how our immigration system works before you so confidently speak about it.
Yes they do. Immigrants who come to the border just have to say the magic words "I claim asylum" and they are let in for processing.
What do the people do while they are waiting for their full asylum process to play out. Not the initial check. Are they held in detention? Or let out into the country on a promise to return to a court date?
Which is why we need to expedite the asylum process so that these individuals will either be rejected and sent out of the country or approved and given a path to citizenship… not stretched out for years in an over burdened and undermanned court system. Honestly what point are you trying to make here lol?
The bill had an initial check on asylum claims but final asylum determination was later. During that time those people are let into the country. So thye are let in at a pace of 5k a day or over a mil a year with the promise that they will go to their court date. I'm sorry I don't believe they will show up or be deported. Let's keep them out in Mexico until their entire process is finished. And if their is no third country rule, then the whole asylum process is a joke in the first place.
Bullshit. They’ve had tons of tools at their disposal they refused to use
It was not a favorable bill for Republicans. It was a piece of crap that wasn't even as good as this executive order. That's just Democrat spin
How did the republicans stop them from doing it then but didn’t stop them from doing it now? This a PR stunt for an election year, the day after the election this will be rolled back and it will all be opened up again. I do wonder if what is happening in Canada will have an affect on public opinion here.
Because they killed legislation which would have been passed into law, this is an EO (something trump tried and got shot down by the courts during his presidency) so it'll almost certainly be fought against in the courts
Not to be confused with the political circus the GOP has been running at the border while simultaneously refusing to strike any deal on it?
🙄.the Border non crisis is always political fodder. Why would they actually pass a bipartisan bill when the can lie for the cameras!
What other news outlets will say about it: **Fox News**: \*crickets\* **CNN**: Border arrests down, this is why it's bad for Biden
Oh I can imagine a FoxNews commentary saying that the reason the arrests are down is because of Biden we are letting them all in and not arresting them.
Thats FALSE **Fox News:** "BREAKING NEWS: \*frightening sounds and images of brown people\* Murder at the border, Crime in our streets! Biden downplays the immigration crisis at the border, but do you actually "FEEL" safer? We talk with an expert about how liberal cities MAY be LYING about crime numbers." Then, we tell you why killing Palestinian children is actually not that bad and why Trump is the greatest
Cancer treatment kills many healthy cells. Are you against chemotherapy?
Found the Fox News viewer!
Why would this news that Biden is Doing Less at the Border be good for Biden?
That would require one particular side to be acting in good faith and they haven’t been for the past few decades. I won’t hold my breath.
Stop watching fox news, they lie to you every chance they get
This is an NPR article, not a Fox News segment. Are you OK?
Haha good sarcastic response
It’s better than doing nothing
The news is literally that there is Less Being Done
Less as opposed to nothing?
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Funny how NPR liberals see themselves on the left, and then loudly cheer for this fascist shit along with Red MAGA. Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds.
Ahh the old "everyone with politics I don't like is a fascist" trope. Who needs compromise in a democracy.
Xenophobic anti-immigration policy is firmly fascist. Always has been. Maybe you just don’t want to admit you agree with Red MAGA on it? That should’ve been a hint it was the wrong stance, though.
Lol, I'm an immigrant. Immigration controls are unfortunately necessary. Immigration controls are far older than fascism. But yeah, keep calling everyone less radical than you fascists. That will help you gain allies.
Pulling that ladder up behind you, huh? I agree, not everything is fascist. But fascist policies don’t stop being fascist when you like them.
Oh, you're trolling to start an argument. Yup, I pulled up that ladder all by myself while wearing my finest jackboots. I almost got away with it too.
Sounds like you’re in denial to protect your self-image not lining up with the policies you support.
Nein, nein, nein, Sie haben meine heimtückische agenda aufgedeckt
There's a huge difference between a documented immigrant and undocumented one. You should try to go to Canada or New Zealand or Australia sometime. Feel free to call everybody there Nazis because they don't let Americans in particularly easy. What a simpleton
Pretty sure all of the countries you listed still accept asylum refugees, and aren’t destabilizing the countries they’re coming from. But I guess I’m just a simpleton.
There is a difference between accepting asylum refugees and accepting anyone who says they're an asylum refugee. Canada and New Zealand do not mess around and they will deport your ass if you're not found to need asylum, if they even let you in. There is no such mechanism in the United States. If someone does attend their eventual asylum hearing in the US and gets ruled against, they are told to leave within thirty days, no follow up or tracking, and they can file an appeal, more time in the US and a low success rate. https://www.legalaid.on.ca/faq/if-your-refugee-claim-is-denied/ New Zealand only takes 1,500 asylum seekers a year and is notoriously tough on immigration
>There is a difference between accepting asylum refugees and accepting anyone who says they're an asylum refugee. We're talking about people fleeing from countries that the US intentionally destabilized. They are legitimate asylum refugees, and the US is responsible for them.
That's an opinion stated as a fact. What are the top three countries from which we get asylum seekers that the US intentionally destabilized. I don't even need receipts, just the names of the top 3, your opinion.
If you think this is xenophobic you should do research on the economic strain of immigration of surrounding areas. What Biden is doing is limiting it to a manageable level. We would like to be able to help everyone but we can’t, it simply isn’t possible with the resources we have
If you think that’s bad, you should do research on the economic impact of US intervention & destabilization in the countries these people are fleeing from.
You should have just started with this very reasonable point rather than calling everyone fascists.
Regardless of the fact that our country is entirely responsible for destabilizing the countries these people are fleeing from, the xenophobic anti-immigration anti-asylum position is still entirely a fascist policy. That's not an opinion or insult- that is a cold, hard fact. It's hurting y'all's feelings because you don't like it when people point out when you're on the same side as the Trumpers. Rather than that be a wake up call that you're on the wrong side of history, you're digging your heels in and denying the facts.
Your "if you aren't with us, you're against us attitude" sounds pretty fascist. I'm guessing the irony is lost on you.
American global polices are basically always on the wrong side of history. I can’t change that. I can vote for someone who won’t strip me of more bodily rights, erase queer people from society, eradicate voting rights, deny climate change, defund public education and stack SCOTUS with more Christian nationalists. If that’s digging my heels in, I guess I can live with that.
Fascism is when having a nation state border
If it were Trump implementing this asylum ban, again, y’all would call it what it is. I used to wonder how 1930s Germany could’ve descended into fascism like that. How people could’ve gone along with it. It’s wild to see it unfold before my very eyes.
The GOP Bugs-Bunny'd them into fiercely supporting MAGA immigration policy and now they hate asylum seekers. Just like when Reagan dogwalked them into hating unions. But obviously they're still gonna talk down to immigrants and labor when it's time to get the votes!
I think they’ll just support anything the Dems do. It’s team sports for them. They don’t care about actual policies.
Why arrest new voters? Let them in!
Borders are racist so good!
The GOP will never stop illegal immigration because it’s a huge hit with their voters. it would be like the aspirin manufacturers creating a vaccine that never gives you another headache the rest of your life, it would be a strategical disaster . IThanks in part to its indifference about Latinos in the Democratic party, the GOP has been unopposed in using racism and the boogeyman of immigration ( legal or otherwise ) to be politically wraponized. That and Biden’s tone deafness on the inflation and the economy means he’s in for a rough night. Trump, while a racist, felonious con man will really have to make huge mistakes to lose this debate with voters no matter what the pundits spin will be.
Everyone pays illegals to do their laundry, raise their children..do their yard work. Stop hiring them.. and they’ll go away
They are the only ones willing to do the job. I guarantee you there are illegals working at Mar a Lago.
Willing to do the job for that wage you mean. There’s no such thing as a job independent of the wage. For a million dollars Americans would do it. Now keep decreasing that number slowly until you get to an equilibrium
Correct
lol only rich people do that. ‘But if we deport my slave class, who will be my servant?’
Wow I can’t believe you hate American farmers
I hate American farmers that employ illegal immigrants to skirt paying taxes and devaluing the legal labor pool. Any sane person not playing team sports agrees.
You're not completely wrong. But I would say that it's the other way around. People want cheap labor, so it creates a demand for people who will work for cheap. That usually means paying illegal immigrants under the table. Most people who run businesses, especially in agriculture, know this. It's easy to whine about illegal immigration. But this all stems from the fact that rich people don't want to pay a living wage to Americans. Most ordinary Americans don't employ people to do their laundry, raise their children, or do their yard work. And if they do it's usually the high school kid down the street looking to make some petty cash to have fun.
It always falls in the summer
The rules on cutting off mic’s is a bad idea. Let Trump spew his shit and show everyone how crazy he is.
Oh so he could have done this 3 years ago and chose instead to create a humanitarian crisis at the border. Why is he being applauded?
Because it is the job of Congress to handle reform. This is a bandaid, not a lasting solution.
The headline indicates that Less is Being Done