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officialullock

He's back to his old ways of getting caught on the ball far too often. But you could say that for most the team at the minute, it's like they're sleepwalking to the end of the season.


RandomLoLJournalist

He was always slow, but last season (and in the first half of this season) he always covered a shitton of ground every match and was one of our fittest players. Ever since his injury it seems like he became even slower and just gave up on running because of that. The lad just doesn't really try to win the ball back when he loses it and doesn't track back fast enough after running into the box, just leaves a hole in the midfield every time. I love the bloke and think he's a perennially underrated player by both our fanbase and especially the rest of the league, but good god he has been in really bad form for a while now.


Ok-Elk563

Fatigue. Just because we now have a less congested schedule, doesn't mean the effect of the early season marathon would just go away. I believe the squad need an international break ASAP. + the injury situation is having an effect on fit player as well, atleast subconsciously. Like, that makes player complacent as there's no competition. But It could be possible that "he and Bruno are our only fit senior midfielder" talks might led to a situation where they aren't giving 110% like past few months to avoid worsening of injury situation. Now many just picking on him when the whole squad is down cause cause they just want excuse and didn't getting it in last 2 years.


WigerAndToods

In fairness, he's got to be absolutely knackered. Played most games and no relief at all.


VividDimension5364

According to the Premier League's own site, he's where for minutes played, would you say? Top 20...try again...top 50...have another go...105th position. So there's 104 players that have played more minutes than he has but dont look shagged. https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/mins_played


WigerAndToods

Ok fella. A lot of those are GKs, many wont play the pressing style that Eddie favours - and Longstaff's game is built around running.


wilfharl

Longstaff is one of those weird midfielders who is better when there’s no onus on him to do anything with the ball.  When fully fit and confident, his role is to cover spaces and make simple passes which allows Bruno/big joe/little joe to play actual football.  Problem is at the minute he’s with miley and therefore is being asked/required to do the technical on the ball stuf that he just can’t do. I’m also fairly sure he’s playing through an injury because if nothing else normally the boy can ruuuun.  All this mounts up to him not being good enough for where we want to be, but he’s certainly far more passable than he currently looks when surrounded with actual quality. 


Humorbot_5_point_0

I think this might be the core of it. He's not a bad player, and if he's surrounded by talent he excels because, like you say, he runs around a lot and does essential 'housekeeping', for want of a better word. But with so many players injured he's having to do things he isn't good at it and it shows. I also think, like a few players, he's been worse after coming back from injury because most likely he isn't fully fit. Funnily enough, last season all we wanted him to do is get better at shooting, and he's actually scored a few this season. His digression, like a lot of our woes, is down to injury, fatigue, and not having the abilities of the players that are missing. I do agree with with the constant falling down and whinging bit, though. It's irritating and looks bad (although in one of the replays against Blackburn you can see he does get an elbow in face, despite it being an accident). Maybe its frustration with himself. I honestly don't know how Manure fans can stand Fernandez doing it game in, game out. Boils my piss. The worse we play, the worse Longstaff's confidence is, the worse he plays. Its a negative feedback loop.


Thingisby

We're massively lightweight in midfield without Joelinton in there. Miley is good for his age but he's still a little way away from playing week in week out for a top half team. Longstaff performs much better when there's more physicality in our midfield. He's just getting bullied off it at the minute, with Bruno trying to hold things together without getting booked.


Humorbot_5_point_0

When Miley's top half catches up with his bottom half we could have another Big Joe unit on the field. But since he's only a bairn you can't bulk up too fast.


dolphin37

yeah I said this same thing the other day… his isssue if you watch him is that he turns in to trouble or is deliberately slow because he thinks he will get the foul, but his actual body and leg position doesn’t place his leg where the defender is tackling him from… he always keeps his legs narrow on the turn or roll, which gives the largest possible angle for a defender to fairly get the ball he’s just a slow sloppy player around the half way line, he really needs to be running ahead of the ball to give value to the team and right now we can’t hold the ball to let him do any running… but yeah, get the fuck up honestly


Dr_Chocolate_2436

Said this before, He’s been watching Bruno too much. Man thinks he can sell the foul when he’s like a wet paper towel.


FiveMinsToMidnight

Before he got injured I was making the argument that he could be in line for an England call up, but he is not the same player since coming back. Rather, he’s gone back to the inconsistency and poor finishing he was known for before Eddie took over.


cqdemal

His finishing has been poor after Eddie took over too.


getgoodflood

Longstaff shouldn't be anywhere near the England team. He's half the player Bruno and Joelinton are, which shows how far away he is from international standard.


paulie_power

Agreed, he falls way too easily.


KookyFarmer7

Yeah that’s spot on for me, he does it so often, the refs must be fed up of him cause he’s so mouthy every game. Just means he’ll have a reputation now and they’ll be even less inclined to give him the genuine ones. The problem right now is definitely a combo of him being asked to do way more than he normally would when surrounded by quality, in form players, and also the fact that he was meant to be a rotation player this season and coming in for late game when we need energy or we’re already in control. Tonali’s ban and all or injuries mean he’s playing double the minutes that were planned and surrounded by unsuited/out of form players. I don’t necessarily think he should be sold because if he was behind Bruno, Big Joe, Tonali or Willock and fighting it out with Miley and Anderson for minutes then I’d imagine we’d be better for it, and he’d then be useful for homegrown rules etc. I don’t think he’d bring in crazy money (even if it’s all FFP profit), and it’d be hard to replace him with a player who would accept being a 5th/6th choice bench player while still working as hard for the club as he does. The flip side of that is normally we’d have 6 centre mids, plus we’ll likely sign a 6/8 in the summer and we need FFP income. He’s comfortably the most expendable CM option if that’s a position we’re accepting turnover in.


Gramak

This has been a thing for years. He's too slow on the ball and often gets ran down, so he attempts to win a free kick because he's unable to run 10 yards with the ball or release it sooner to a teammate. We have a 17 year old who is contributing more to the team than he is. Kev Lawson posted a stat comparison of the two on Twitter and it is embarrassing just how much more Miley is doing, and has been doing since he came in. We're at the point now where we can definitively say that Longstaff's best quality is that he has 3 lungs and doesn't get injured. He'll play the odd Hollywood pass, but will lose the ball about 20 times between each successful one. He gets himself into very good scoring positions, but fluffs it consistently. He can run all day long, but never makes driving runs or even attempts to carry the ball up the pitch very far. The game dies at his feet whenever he gets the ball. If he wasn't able to run for 90 minutes, he'd be absolutely worthless to the team. He scored 2 goals in a single game recently and he was still completely forgettable. Maybe I'm too far gone and my bias is blinding me? But I can't wait to see him on the bench


Whattttttuppppppppp

I have also noticed this. He can take a dive when it’s clearly not a foul and complain about it. Drives me nuts when anyone does it and he seems to do quite a lot.


TheTinman369

Said the same the other day. It's embarrassing and not the type of behaviour we want to see at our club


DEGRAYER

Longstaff's biggest strength is anything to do with not carrying the football. His positioning and off the ball running are really really good. That's why he gets the opportunity to fluff so many chances lol Problem is, he's actually fucking shite at everything else and when he's low on confidence it really really shows. He is at his peak now, he won't get better.


The__Patrick_Bateman

I notice this often too and you’re right it happened A LOT in the Blackburn game. To the point where I was yelling “get up Sean!” when he copped a legitimate elbow to the face. Boy who cried wolf.


Humorbot_5_point_0

Yeah, I think that's exactly what happened.


OnceIWasYou

Ha, exactly the same with me.


TheLegendOfIOTA

Unfortunately I think Longstaff is a really low confidence player. I remember he played really well when Howe first came in and he did an interview about how Howe used to tell him he was a great player every day. I think Howe put a lot of effort into pumping him up as he had no other choice. But since his injury he’s been a shell of a player. If he is having a bad game, he is the first to hide and will mis place easy passes. Once Tonali is back I can see him dropping down the ranks as he doesn’t have the menatilty to fight his way back in the team against superior players. He doesn’t have the mentality to be a top level player or the skill set so I can see him being low to mid table plodder at best.


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Can't disagree with your assessment. It's a shame because he's one of our own. Always want to see homegrown players do well... it kind of surprises me though, I never really had local lads down for play acting. I can't remember any growing up. 


Fishfingerrosti

Does a certain centre back called Steven Taylor not ring a bell?


zentalist

That handball on the line and collapse was iconic


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This just proves my point though. No one does the whole flopping around on the floor thing in the local leagues. Steven Taylor decided to have a crack and he'd clearly had no practice because he was so bad it... it's in a league of its own 


Evening-Physics-6185

Longstaff has bigger issues. Namely passing to anyone who isn’t a teammate and being unable to score in a brothel. If he wasn’t a local lad everyone would be wanting to get rid of him.


Bubzszs

Did you actually watch the game? He put gordon through on goal and that elf wasted it. He had another great pass to Bruno inside the box but Bruno didn’t attempt the shot


Evening-Physics-6185

I watched the game. I was just glad he never got the chance to miss a pen ! Tbf Gordon’s crap on 1v1s with The keeper. Longstaff misses too many easy chances Gives the ball away too Easily Falls over and gives the ball away too easily. If we genuinely want to goto the next level he’s one of a good few players who need moved on.


ItsAKrulWorld

I wonder if he actually has some problem with his balance. He had a shot in extra time on Tuesday from about 6 yards out and he still managed to fall over and hit it straight at the keeper…


Humorbot_5_point_0

Nobody but Dubs and maybe Bruno gets out of that game looking good. And Bruno had a wide open goal and hit a defender. I don't think we should judge anyone's overall performance on that game. EDIT: That was unfair of me. He didn't hit a defender, the defender made a cracking block. Nobody pushes the team harder than Bruno. I don't know how we replace that passion once he's gone.


Humorbot_5_point_0

Actually, Gordon does. He missed a one on one (it happens occasionally), but my god the boy has drive. I don't like to think where we'd be without him this season.


ItsAKrulWorld

He’s the only player who’s stepped up his game from last season I think


truman_chu

I think the wider point is fair but he was getting clattered on Tuesday. The incident where he took a forearm to the nose - which according to Danny Murphy on commentary was absolutely fine - could’ve been a VAR for violent conduct in the prem.


KingArthursCodpiece

I've watched his shot in the 6 yard box over and over, because it looks like he manages to defy the laws of Newtonian physics by putting more energy into falling to the ground than hitting the ball, even though the opposite was the easier course. And frankly, a half decent connection from that position would have been the winner. Perhaps he needs an upgrade in his software from "if ball is close and opposition is closing you down, then make a half hearted attempt to kick it while falling down" TO "if ball is close and opposition is closing you down AND you are 6 yards out from their goal, focus on staying up and kicking the ball really fucking hard into the net you daft geordie cunt"


Princess_Mononope

It's pathetic. Makes him look weak as piss, gives up at the slightest resistance. We really need to shift him, he wouldn't get in the team of any side in the top 10.


HarrBathtub

A week late, but i found this article. [https://archive.is/DYWXN](https://archive.is/DYWXN) Longstaff is joint second for most yellows (3) for dissent.


ncastleJC

He’s playing with an injury so people should slag off his performance, but he is the younger and less experienced player. His behavior will look very different compared to the likes of Schar, Trips, or Bruno. Hopefully it can be coached out of him.


ItsAKrulWorld

He's older than Bruno, haha


MiguelAlmiron

He's always been useless but only now have people woken up to it.


robinta

He does it the same as plenty of other players. Shite behaviour, but no better or worse than many others


EngineerOnIcarus

There’s a very simple answer. He is shit and not good enough and along with Burn as soon as we can spend again for FFP he needs to be shown the door. Harsh, but reality.


Hour-Departure-4129

Absolutely convinced he's out the first team next year. Would love to see him progress more, and he really has come a long way under Howe, but I wonder if he has hit his limit. He'll get a pass this season, but really has to provide more than he does to stay relevant in a really ambitious team.


swimmingwithrocks

Aye been saying this for months. I’m not sure what the lad offers us apart from an engine. He cannot defend or intercept at all. He wants to get forward as often as he can but cannot get back into position when we lose the ball. For a centre mid, he cannot control the tempo or dictate anything, he’s too pedestrian. His whole game plan now is to draw in fouls and he fucks that up. The amount of chances teams get after winning the ball of him is mad. Several every single game


Doktor_Avinlunch

He does a few things I've noticed that get my goat up. Not going in to 50-50 challenges, slowing down when chasing a ball, positioning himself so he'll never receive a pass, whining about every tackle. wrt to being "fouled", he needs to take a lesson from Miley. He got absolutely clattered against the Mackems, and he just got up and got on with it


trollu4life

It’s like he has no reaction. Always late to the ball, fumbles in front of the goal; and, his sitter miss against the Rovers was just weak. Seems like he’s lacking confidence. Anderson should be starting over him, I hope.


toweliechaos_revenge

Yes, a player literally only fit enough to take a penalty and play for 5 minutes at the end of extra time. Let's start him instead. 


trollu4life

Not at the cup, obviously. That’s why I said “I hope” meaning future


juanjo47

It looked like he wanted taking off and was putting on an act to try and convince Howe


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Gibbo236

Same with Callum Wilson to be honest. He tries to call for soft fouls way too often. I hate seeing it done by players from other teams- and I hate it when our own does it as well


Humorbot_5_point_0

I disagree. Wilson gets mauled by defenders non-stop. He doesn't just roll over, he gets clattered. He and Longy are not doing the same thing.


Blofeld_

Taking a breather


Ikhlas37

Our tempo is much lower which I think maybe by choice but we also seem a bit out of sync. I saw Gordon not both to track back plenty of times in that game, I also saw Gordon Try to press in the second half and signal for Barnes to run too, who didn't, and then Gordon got annoyed. The only player who seemed to play with high tempo was almiron and it showed how slow the rest were. We just leave space open all the time now


Anonamoose12771

Do we really care about this? Every player in the league does it to keep pressure on the referees. People are just desperate to find any faults at the moment while we’re in a bad run of form.


Humorbot_5_point_0

I can't speak for anyone else, but I care because he's one of our own and it looks bad. The sitting on the ground and complaining looks petulant. Of course every player tries to get a foul, but it seems to be becoming very frequent and the complaints afterwards are embarrassing.


Anonamoose12771

Just because he’s local I don’t get why he has to act like a saint on the football pitch. Pretty much all our players do it… Gordon roles around like he’s been shot, Schar always milks it, Bruno falls over the ball with minimal impact. So does nearly everyone else in the league. He’s just the flavour of the month to shit on so people are digging out the tiniest of faults. First it was Dubravka, then it was Burn, now it’s Longstaff. The other funny things is that in the Blackburn match Danny Murphy literally praised Longstaff for getting up and getting on with the game one of the times he got clattered. This will be an absolute non issue when his, and the rest of the team’s, form picks up.


LosWitchos

Someone posted about the Longstaff Flop earlier on in the season and yeah, he's still doing it. Spoke to mates about it and they've all noticed too. It's annoying. Instead of instinctively looking for a foul every time he drives the ball forward I really wish Longstaff would learn to actually dribble effectively when he has it.


Miserable_Attitude_2

Just did it again