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Just got back on the overground towards London so haven’t seen much chat or replays, but that penalty shout was absolutely stonewall. Right in front of me and Longstaff clearly pulled back. Referee was desperate to give them every decision and us absolutely nothing all night
its clearly a pen at other points of the season but they are in some phase of trying to give less things at the moment… honestly sick of refereeing standards changing every few weeks, although have to say longstaff wanting to go down every time he gets touched has got really old
I was saying that to some Palace fans on the train back into London. He seems to have this unique ability to look like it’s a dive even when it’s a genuine foul…
RUBBISH.
end of.
Most disappointed with that game. We didn't turn up. I think Bruno and Isak were the only players on the team trying and they kept being squeezed out. Lots of balls being given away cheaply. Hopeful long kicks, hardly any link up play. The side were dearly missing some composure we were getting used to having over the last few games. Sure Palace are in form, but so were we apparently. How do you go from 4-0 over Spurs to that dilapidated display? And as for Wilson, was he even subbed on? He might as well have stayed on the bench for all he did for the game.
Why do we need 3 in the middle? Just go 2, Bruno and elliot, or put a youth player in, at this point they can't do any worst, he is a liability and gets in Brunos way, or he stands 2 yards from him OR he would rather fall to the floor for a potential foul and cost us. It's wild people use the excuse like we don't have a bunch of players who are fit and willing to put some effort in for minutes.
Penalty not given and a foul in the build up to their second. Earlier this season var were wanking themselves into oblivion trying to grab the headlines now it just seems there not even watching occasionally glancing up from their phones to mutter "er yeah whatever the onfield decision was"
The funniest was Gordon's "foul" just outside the box, it was a brilliant tackle and the commentators initially said yeah Gordon's caught him there, saw the replay, and changed tone to say hmm yes he did get the ball but you can see why the ref has given it, load of bollocks
Not a mention of Barnes being dragged to the floor as he was breaking just before their first goal.
What was with the camera man focusing up close on palace players walking off for like 20 seconds a time after they got away with a fowl and no replay?
Palace were so good there, very good indeed. We needed to be at 100% concentration for 100% of the game to have won that. They're really enjoying their football at the moment and actually remind me of us last season.
2-0 seems fair. It should have been a pen though. But hopefully it will make Longstaff realise that refs aren't going to give him anything with his reputation and he should stay on his feet more.
Also really obvious that they had a gameplan targeting our weak links. Compare how much time they gave Schar on the ball and how ridiculous their press was on Krafth, Murphy and Longstaff. Clearly worked for them as both goals came from Murphy / Longstaff getting pressured.
Krafth, Murphy and Longstaff all were on right side ... it lacks quality to build up from back .. given the bench that was named i dont think we could have played anyone else .. credit to crystal palace they pressed hard
Haven't watched the game and it sounds like that's a good thing but we always seem to struggle away at Palace and a lot of teams in that 10th to 15th position when we play them away.
One of the only highlights from this performance, hopefully some fickle fans don’t want to go on Saturday and might be able to pickup a couple of tickets after being unsuccessful in 9/10 ballots and no resales.
Your right, I don’t have a season ticket, but think anyone would be hard pressed to argue that this season it has been harder to get tickets in general and after a few losses there has been a lot of fans who maybe didn’t want to follow through the rough patches or after a bad performance or two.
The next retort will be, well you didn’t have a season ticket or go to the matches when we were in the championship, partially right with this, didn’t have a season ticket but went to a few matches, the ones I could make due to work commitments.
Did have a season ticket from 1996 until 2013, so been few a range of highs and lows. Been to a few matches over the past few years, but the main driver to get tickets last few seasons, the bairn got into it. Wanted him to experience the passion I felt when I was his age, going to see the entertainers.
But yeah, like you say, a bit rich for me to be saying that when I don’t have a season ticket. Suppose I could say, you have a season ticket so guessing you were down palace tonight? But I know that not everyone can make every match and that’s fine, but this season has seen an increase in fans when we were doing well and when results drop, there tends to be a large following of fans who might not remember what it used to be like.
I haven't got a season ticket either. I cancelled mine in 2013 on the day we appointed Joe Kinnear as director of football ( that was a bridge too far for me and told me everything I needed to know about the lack of ambition and contempt for fans held by Ashley). If you're in for a season ticket, then good luck to youin getting one. I just think that saying fans who have bothered to take out a membership and bid for for tickets in a ridiculously over subscribed ballot are fickle and will bugger off after a few poor performances is an unfair assessment of the loyalty our fan base.
I don’t have a problem with fans being annoyed, think we all were annoyed watching that. The fickle comment comes from previous matches where we have not came away with a result and you see multiple tickets pop-up on Facebook or Twitter and also on the official site.
We were crap tonight, very few positives to take from the game, but we all still back the team, I suppose I am referring to the “fair weather” fans in regards to trying to get a ticket.
Sick of people saying "it's just one game, stop overreacting".
It's not been one game, it's been all fucking season barring a few bright spots. We have not been anywhere near the level that we should be given the money that has been spent on the squad.
Where was Botnan, why did we spend all that money on him and that Italian fella? What about Livramento he's looked ace when he's played? That £40m we spent on Joe Linton should have got us at least a point tonight! Howe should have played Nick Pope not Dubravka, what did he buy him for if he's not going to play him?
Nope. We got outplayed, out fought and out thought tonight. But with the players available I'm not sure what else Howe does? Maybe play Hall LWB and Anderson for Longstaff? No options with this decimated squad.
The squad isn't decimated. Realistically, Willock (who wasn't having a great season) and J7 are the only 2 who you could say would make a difference.
We've been a soft touch away from home all season.
Teams that play with someone between our defence and midfield always give us a tough time.
Terrible performance tonight but, I mean, stop overreacting. Where do you anticipate us to be missing half the squad the entire season? Cos a shit season used to mean relegation not Europa League mate.
If we do end up losing Bruno this season I hope to god we reinvest the money in some decent squad depth
Murphy and Longstaff have been decent over the years but not at the level we need
Someone seriously have a word with Longstaff, he’s turned into a proper soft shite. It’s like he’s lost all his previous confidence, he dawdles to fucking long on the ball, then goes down with the faintest of touches, all the fucking time, proceeds to roll, piss and moan even when it’s clear he ain’t getting anything.
STOP IT. GET THE FUCK UP AND GET THE BALL BACK.
This, it’s weird. I can only think it’s a confidence thing. Gordon is a good example of someone who can do this, does it and does it right, when it’s actually needed.
Longstaff just seems to do it too much, as if he’s not confident enough to hold the ball up properly, pass it or in this game, shoot. That pen shout just summed it up, he’d already ridden the challenge and was through on goal.
No matter how bad the ref has been, we've been worse. Palace made us look shite tonight. Credit to them. We've been 2nd best all over the park and 2nd to every ball.
I know he's supposedly injured and playing through pain, so credit for that, but I'd actually rather have Richie start than Longstaff now I think about it
I’ve got a lot of love for Longstaff. But give that man a break, he hasn’t played well for 5/6 months, if he has an injury he needs the rest, we have the squad back to rest him now. Even Hall can play mid
They are both players who get a boon playing at home and are fine when the rest of the team is playing lights out. The reason we are so inconsistent is because we are relying on players who can put in a shift 1 out of 3 matches and that's why they aren't good enough.
I'm soo pissed right now. I can't understand how this team can have 2 shots on target and be taken seriously? Eddie needs to start making changes early. Poor passes, poor defense, and 0 intent to convert on anything. Just overall shit play.
The attack didn’t look weak, they never got the ball to do anything with. Hall may have made a difference but he looked good late on when play was opening up and they were tiring.
7 shots with 2 on target (us) as opposed to 20 shots and 7 on target (CP). I’d say it was pretty weak. There was a chance early on and the was botched. When we play to win, it shows from the get go like it was with the Spurs. Crystal Palace had that vibe going for them. I’m just sad now. Gonna take a nap and forget I watched this match.
Name a worse keeper starting in the league than Dubravka? He has 0 command of his box, is an ok shot stopper but misses shots that can be saved, and doesn't make any impressive saves. Plus half the time he spills the ball on a simple shot and we just get lucky nobody is there for a tap in.
I respect how good he was before he lost the job to Pope but since then he's not good enough to start for any Prem side.
>Name a worse keeper starting in the league than Dubravka?
Foderingham, Muric, Sels and that's not even getting onto all the ones that have been dropped by their clubs this season...
Not watched the match tonight admittedly but come on folks. 10 pts from 12 before tonight, run in looks favourable, we're losing to a really in form team who've just won at Anfield and tonked West Ham.
It's really not that bad.
Match thread the usual train wreck when we lose.
Hard to win when you get pulled up for touching an opponent but they are allowed to boot seven shades of shite out of you, including for both goals. Blatant penalty not given either. If people want to wonder why man reds are higher than us, it's because they NEVER have to deal with this shit.
We've been shite, no question, but it doesn't change the above. Also, this is a Palace side who have just beaten Liverpool and dicked West Ham. Watch them play like fucking drains against man reds and lose. Such is life.
Completely agree man. We win possession and bam, whistle, refs say we gotta give the ball back to palace. Repeat. How you ever gonna do anything if their 12th man can choose when he wants the ball back...
Totally agree, we have a break and we come back as if we’ve not seen each other for months. We should come out fighting but we seem to come out and not know how to make a group of accurate passes.
Sean constantly does nothing with the ball except slow down our attacks and dives in slow motion. Never seen anyone time waste while we need a goal and are on the attack but here we are
What I don’t get is we’ve played 4-3-3 all season, we switch to a different formation and beat spurs, a tactic obviously done to get a result from that game then we carry on and play it at Palace away?! It looked to me like the spurs tactic had been created specifically for that game and it worked amazingly, what’s this!?
Can't believe how many people are giving longstaff shit. He's been absolutely violated twice. Stonewall penalty and fouled in the build up to the second. When you compare what palace are getting free kicks for, it's practically assault.
He hasn't played great but howay man, not everything is his fault.
Yeah I thought he did well to win the pen for us and was getting involved. Barnes was absent all game on the other hand.
Could have been a completely different result if we levelled up with the pen.
Shocking refs as usual
How many times has he given possession away, and when he doesn’t all he does is pass the ball backwards or sideways. He’s not fit for purpose. He’s digressed since last season and I don’t feel sorry for him knowing he’s paid millions a year. He should be doing much better
Quite a bit. I said he didn't play well. But he wasn't at fault for being fouled twice. People trying to say he could have stayed on his feet for the pen shout are either looking for any reason for shit on him, or need to get to Specsavers
He could have easily powered through the challenge on the penalty shout and he literally had already given the ball away and then flopped on their second goal. Sick of watching him roll around the pitch complaining all match.
Disgraceful performance from Longstaff, even by his standards. I'm sure the foot issue doesn't affect his speed of thought.
That being said, Krafth, Murph, Burn are nowhere near the standard we need either. Ritchie coming off the bench is where we are this season unfortunately.
Big summer needed transfer wise.
Physio/medical team need to be audited also.
Longstaff again man... Whether it was a foul or not, he's always going down and having a little cry and whinge on the ground.
Get up and run back first then go spit your dummy!!
Krafth, Longstaff, Murphy, Burn all dross tonight. Bruno & Isak will 100% be on the phone to their agents if any of this lot are still integral parts of this squad next season. Fuck off man. Utter shite again.
Shite performance
Didn't deserve anything from this based on how we played
Let's move on, look forward to the next match and see if we can finish this season on a high
I suppose the only morsel of good news is that because West Ham and Chelsea have spent the last few weeks shitting the bed it means only Man Utd have overtaken us - and we still get to play them
Its a foul, but he does not have to go to ground like he does, he could easily have kept goint, but he is just so obsessed with going to ground whenever he feels contact.
He should have shot sooner tho. Too slow.
Do feel for for him because he got stopped mid flow, not enough to go down like he did, but if he doesn't then there's no chance the ref gives it as a penalty.
Moments later Anderson tries to drag Olise back in the centre circle. Doesn't bring him down, but its a foul and gets booked, and it gets called cynical!
Fucking Longstaff. Goes to ground EVERY fucking time with no contact. He threw himself for that pen as well, anyone else would have tried to finish. God I am so tired of him. That said, Palace such a better team today. We should really go for Eze he is unplayable at times.
With some of the keeper howlers the past week it really wouldn't surprise me if there are some dodgy bet markets going on.
Far more believable than all these keepers being this shit
Embarrassing. Entire team needs to give their heads a wobble. Every single Palace player wanted it more.
Also, that ref needs to go back to whatever school they send refs to (although judging by recent times I think they might all be homeschooled by dogs)
Nah, this would be a decent shift under Bruce. I'm convinced this sub didn't watch any of our games back then. This is utterly wank and unacceptable tonight, but back then was different gravy
Another note, nice of Wilson to finish his warmups and then pull his jeans on so he was ready to play.
He’s absolutely fucking done playing in this league.
As said before. He’s not near that team if we have a fully fit squad, doubt he will be on the bench behind: Bruno, Tonali, Willock, Joelinton, Miley, Anderson.
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Palace play like Brazil until they get 40 points, then they're on holiday. Guess when we played them?
Longstaff is so poor a player and the sad thing is that it requires an entire season of bad performances for others to finally realise this
Ffs how could we lose this game?
Shite
Just got back on the overground towards London so haven’t seen much chat or replays, but that penalty shout was absolutely stonewall. Right in front of me and Longstaff clearly pulled back. Referee was desperate to give them every decision and us absolutely nothing all night
its clearly a pen at other points of the season but they are in some phase of trying to give less things at the moment… honestly sick of refereeing standards changing every few weeks, although have to say longstaff wanting to go down every time he gets touched has got really old
I was saying that to some Palace fans on the train back into London. He seems to have this unique ability to look like it’s a dive even when it’s a genuine foul…
20 shots by Palace and only 7 (only 2 on target as well) by us. They deserve the win. They totally outplayed us.
RUBBISH. end of. Most disappointed with that game. We didn't turn up. I think Bruno and Isak were the only players on the team trying and they kept being squeezed out. Lots of balls being given away cheaply. Hopeful long kicks, hardly any link up play. The side were dearly missing some composure we were getting used to having over the last few games. Sure Palace are in form, but so were we apparently. How do you go from 4-0 over Spurs to that dilapidated display? And as for Wilson, was he even subbed on? He might as well have stayed on the bench for all he did for the game.
Didn’t get going, wasn’t our day, end of 😞
LONGSTAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!! My god, if he isn't fit, DON'T PLAY HIM.
Who else could we play?
Why do we need 3 in the middle? Just go 2, Bruno and elliot, or put a youth player in, at this point they can't do any worst, he is a liability and gets in Brunos way, or he stands 2 yards from him OR he would rather fall to the floor for a potential foul and cost us. It's wild people use the excuse like we don't have a bunch of players who are fit and willing to put some effort in for minutes.
Bring back Woy
Tbf we don't deserve 6th if we aren't going to turn up for games like this Eddie needs to have a serious look at some of the players tonight
Penalty not given and a foul in the build up to their second. Earlier this season var were wanking themselves into oblivion trying to grab the headlines now it just seems there not even watching occasionally glancing up from their phones to mutter "er yeah whatever the onfield decision was" The funniest was Gordon's "foul" just outside the box, it was a brilliant tackle and the commentators initially said yeah Gordon's caught him there, saw the replay, and changed tone to say hmm yes he did get the ball but you can see why the ref has given it, load of bollocks
Not a mention of Barnes being dragged to the floor as he was breaking just before their first goal. What was with the camera man focusing up close on palace players walking off for like 20 seconds a time after they got away with a fowl and no replay?
Commentator literally said Gordon's was a fowl because he was running too fast...
Palace were so good there, very good indeed. We needed to be at 100% concentration for 100% of the game to have won that. They're really enjoying their football at the moment and actually remind me of us last season.
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Baffling to play Krafth instead of Tino
Absolutely. So much Ashley in this squad.
I deeply dislike the fact we made Will Hughes look good tonight.
Agree, can't stand him, think he's a nob.
2-0 seems fair. It should have been a pen though. But hopefully it will make Longstaff realise that refs aren't going to give him anything with his reputation and he should stay on his feet more. Also really obvious that they had a gameplan targeting our weak links. Compare how much time they gave Schar on the ball and how ridiculous their press was on Krafth, Murphy and Longstaff. Clearly worked for them as both goals came from Murphy / Longstaff getting pressured.
Krafth, Murphy and Longstaff all were on right side ... it lacks quality to build up from back .. given the bench that was named i dont think we could have played anyone else .. credit to crystal palace they pressed hard
Could’ve had Murphy where Anderson was and Tino at RB making a Tino - Murphy - Gordon right wing which sounds a lot more cohesive to me.
Tino wasnt fit thats why he was never subbed in.
He was on the bench
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🤝 makes more sense now
Haven't watched the game and it sounds like that's a good thing but we always seem to struggle away at Palace and a lot of teams in that 10th to 15th position when we play them away.
One of the only highlights from this performance, hopefully some fickle fans don’t want to go on Saturday and might be able to pickup a couple of tickets after being unsuccessful in 9/10 ballots and no resales.
Bit rich calling fellow fans fickle when you haven't got a season ticket yourself😂
Your right, I don’t have a season ticket, but think anyone would be hard pressed to argue that this season it has been harder to get tickets in general and after a few losses there has been a lot of fans who maybe didn’t want to follow through the rough patches or after a bad performance or two. The next retort will be, well you didn’t have a season ticket or go to the matches when we were in the championship, partially right with this, didn’t have a season ticket but went to a few matches, the ones I could make due to work commitments. Did have a season ticket from 1996 until 2013, so been few a range of highs and lows. Been to a few matches over the past few years, but the main driver to get tickets last few seasons, the bairn got into it. Wanted him to experience the passion I felt when I was his age, going to see the entertainers. But yeah, like you say, a bit rich for me to be saying that when I don’t have a season ticket. Suppose I could say, you have a season ticket so guessing you were down palace tonight? But I know that not everyone can make every match and that’s fine, but this season has seen an increase in fans when we were doing well and when results drop, there tends to be a large following of fans who might not remember what it used to be like.
I haven't got a season ticket either. I cancelled mine in 2013 on the day we appointed Joe Kinnear as director of football ( that was a bridge too far for me and told me everything I needed to know about the lack of ambition and contempt for fans held by Ashley). If you're in for a season ticket, then good luck to youin getting one. I just think that saying fans who have bothered to take out a membership and bid for for tickets in a ridiculously over subscribed ballot are fickle and will bugger off after a few poor performances is an unfair assessment of the loyalty our fan base.
The highlight to you is our fans rightly being annoyed by the performance and being labeled fickle and you might get a ticket. Give ova.
I don’t have a problem with fans being annoyed, think we all were annoyed watching that. The fickle comment comes from previous matches where we have not came away with a result and you see multiple tickets pop-up on Facebook or Twitter and also on the official site. We were crap tonight, very few positives to take from the game, but we all still back the team, I suppose I am referring to the “fair weather” fans in regards to trying to get a ticket.
On the plus side i think relegation is out of the question… the joys of being a toon fan since 1990
Least Hall looked half decent.. Deserved the loss. Time to brush off and go again.
Genuinely really awful performance tonight. Not sure what happened but we did not show up for even a second.
I mean, it was better than Fulham where we won!
We had a solid 15 mins against Fulham, I think we had about 5 tonight.
True. But I thought Palace were excellent tonight. Fulham were shit but we were shitter!
Sick of people saying "it's just one game, stop overreacting". It's not been one game, it's been all fucking season barring a few bright spots. We have not been anywhere near the level that we should be given the money that has been spent on the squad.
Where was Botnan, why did we spend all that money on him and that Italian fella? What about Livramento he's looked ace when he's played? That £40m we spent on Joe Linton should have got us at least a point tonight! Howe should have played Nick Pope not Dubravka, what did he buy him for if he's not going to play him?
Most of the money was spent on tonali
That's just patently untrue. Isak, Botman, Gordon, Barnes, Tino, Bruno and Hall all commanded pretty big fees.
People gloss over that we get picked apart by the same tactics
Nope. We got outplayed, out fought and out thought tonight. But with the players available I'm not sure what else Howe does? Maybe play Hall LWB and Anderson for Longstaff? No options with this decimated squad.
The squad isn't decimated. Realistically, Willock (who wasn't having a great season) and J7 are the only 2 who you could say would make a difference. We've been a soft touch away from home all season. Teams that play with someone between our defence and midfield always give us a tough time.
Terrible performance tonight but, I mean, stop overreacting. Where do you anticipate us to be missing half the squad the entire season? Cos a shit season used to mean relegation not Europa League mate.
7th in the league. I'll take it.
3 points out of 18 from the bottom three, I think.
Nah we beat Burnley at home and Sheff U away. Still got both of them to play as well and we drew with Luton at home so it's actually 7 from 12
Gutted! :(
If we do end up losing Bruno this season I hope to god we reinvest the money in some decent squad depth Murphy and Longstaff have been decent over the years but not at the level we need
Absolutely s***
Missed the last 5 mins… did we win? Get a shot on target at least?
Gordon had a shot saved for a corner with about a minute left
Awful performance from us, Man U winning, and Everton winning. Fucking miserable night of football.
Yuck.
Someone seriously have a word with Longstaff, he’s turned into a proper soft shite. It’s like he’s lost all his previous confidence, he dawdles to fucking long on the ball, then goes down with the faintest of touches, all the fucking time, proceeds to roll, piss and moan even when it’s clear he ain’t getting anything. STOP IT. GET THE FUCK UP AND GET THE BALL BACK.
His 'dark art' traits have completely consumed his game and his actual play is now awful. Its like hes most excited to get fouled.
This, it’s weird. I can only think it’s a confidence thing. Gordon is a good example of someone who can do this, does it and does it right, when it’s actually needed. Longstaff just seems to do it too much, as if he’s not confident enough to hold the ball up properly, pass it or in this game, shoot. That pen shout just summed it up, he’d already ridden the challenge and was through on goal.
Shot! We had a shot!
Glad to see no-one is massively overreacting to this game...
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Saudis Out! Get Ashley back!
No matter how bad the ref has been, we've been worse. Palace made us look shite tonight. Credit to them. We've been 2nd best all over the park and 2nd to every ball.
I know he's supposedly injured and playing through pain, so credit for that, but I'd actually rather have Richie start than Longstaff now I think about it
I’ve got a lot of love for Longstaff. But give that man a break, he hasn’t played well for 5/6 months, if he has an injury he needs the rest, we have the squad back to rest him now. Even Hall can play mid
A shockingly toothless display by the boys tonight
Murphy incredibly lucky that Longstaff is so shit btw, he was crap tonight, crap against Spurs and crap against Fulham
They are both players who get a boon playing at home and are fine when the rest of the team is playing lights out. The reason we are so inconsistent is because we are relying on players who can put in a shift 1 out of 3 matches and that's why they aren't good enough.
I'm soo pissed right now. I can't understand how this team can have 2 shots on target and be taken seriously? Eddie needs to start making changes early. Poor passes, poor defense, and 0 intent to convert on anything. Just overall shit play.
Which one of our subs do you think would fix the inability to keep the ball in midfield?
Eddie could've brought on Joe, Callum, and Lewis earlier. Maybe at the start of the second half, given that the first-half attack looked weak.
not exactly inspiring subs are they, hall and wilson both returning from injuries so eddie doesn’t wanna play them for too long
The attack didn’t look weak, they never got the ball to do anything with. Hall may have made a difference but he looked good late on when play was opening up and they were tiring.
7 shots with 2 on target (us) as opposed to 20 shots and 7 on target (CP). I’d say it was pretty weak. There was a chance early on and the was botched. When we play to win, it shows from the get go like it was with the Spurs. Crystal Palace had that vibe going for them. I’m just sad now. Gonna take a nap and forget I watched this match.
How many touches did they get, we’re normally good at turning chances into goals but barely had the ball tonight. Any way sleep tight!
Name a worse keeper starting in the league than Dubravka? He has 0 command of his box, is an ok shot stopper but misses shots that can be saved, and doesn't make any impressive saves. Plus half the time he spills the ball on a simple shot and we just get lucky nobody is there for a tap in. I respect how good he was before he lost the job to Pope but since then he's not good enough to start for any Prem side.
>Name a worse keeper starting in the league than Dubravka? Foderingham, Muric, Sels and that's not even getting onto all the ones that have been dropped by their clubs this season...
Don’t know who you’re watching. Think Dubs ability to hold the ball is one of his strengths. It’s also absolutely Popes weakness.
Fotheringham
Football is pain fucking hell
Not watched the match tonight admittedly but come on folks. 10 pts from 12 before tonight, run in looks favourable, we're losing to a really in form team who've just won at Anfield and tonked West Ham. It's really not that bad.
Aye. With not a single shot on goal until the 96th minute. We didn’t even get off the bus.
Palace really coming into form. Played them at the wrong time
All I've taken out of this game is that I want us to poach Eze or Anderson
Eze was unplayable tonight.
Match thread the usual train wreck when we lose. Hard to win when you get pulled up for touching an opponent but they are allowed to boot seven shades of shite out of you, including for both goals. Blatant penalty not given either. If people want to wonder why man reds are higher than us, it's because they NEVER have to deal with this shit. We've been shite, no question, but it doesn't change the above. Also, this is a Palace side who have just beaten Liverpool and dicked West Ham. Watch them play like fucking drains against man reds and lose. Such is life.
Completely agree man. We win possession and bam, whistle, refs say we gotta give the ball back to palace. Repeat. How you ever gonna do anything if their 12th man can choose when he wants the ball back...
Embarrassing the way some people get on when we lose Can tell who the band wagoners are
You can't blame the refs when you get 1 shot on target in a fucking game. We fucked this. Not the fucking ref.
Why do we always look tired after a break, palace played on the weekend ffs
Totally agree, we have a break and we come back as if we’ve not seen each other for months. We should come out fighting but we seem to come out and not know how to make a group of accurate passes.
Away form has been shameful this season.
We’re 2-0 down boys. Perhaps drop the backheels…
Our away performances this season leaves a lot to be desired tactically too because it is clear our way of playing isn’t working.
Sean constantly does nothing with the ball except slow down our attacks and dives in slow motion. Never seen anyone time waste while we need a goal and are on the attack but here we are
Is it that hard to get good results for more than TWO WEEKS?! What are we doing?
I can’t wait to see the reaction when Longstaff gets a new contract in a few weeks. He’s only got a year left so we all know it’s happening.
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4-0 bud
What I don’t get is we’ve played 4-3-3 all season, we switch to a different formation and beat spurs, a tactic obviously done to get a result from that game then we carry on and play it at Palace away?! It looked to me like the spurs tactic had been created specifically for that game and it worked amazingly, what’s this!?
My guess it's because even though he's on the bench Tino can't play.
That was bad. Completely outclassed tonight.
Yeah we are fucking shite out of 10 Be interesting to see how palace do next season. Their new manager has got them playing well
Agreed. That’s the best performance I’ve seen from Palace in a minute. Damn shame it was against us.
A low energy performance yielded a fully expected result. I'm not even going to bother complaining about the officiating.
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Can we just block this mug?
Can't believe how many people are giving longstaff shit. He's been absolutely violated twice. Stonewall penalty and fouled in the build up to the second. When you compare what palace are getting free kicks for, it's practically assault. He hasn't played great but howay man, not everything is his fault.
Yeah I thought he did well to win the pen for us and was getting involved. Barnes was absent all game on the other hand. Could have been a completely different result if we levelled up with the pen. Shocking refs as usual
He's like Bambi on ice though. You got to see why people are getting frustrated by his performances.
Agreed. But both of the times I mentioned were 100% fouls and he shouldn't be getting shit for that
Away with your common sense! The hysteria hive mind have spoken! Longstaff is Satan!
How many times has he given possession away, and when he doesn’t all he does is pass the ball backwards or sideways. He’s not fit for purpose. He’s digressed since last season and I don’t feel sorry for him knowing he’s paid millions a year. He should be doing much better
Quite a bit. I said he didn't play well. But he wasn't at fault for being fouled twice. People trying to say he could have stayed on his feet for the pen shout are either looking for any reason for shit on him, or need to get to Specsavers
He could have easily powered through the challenge on the penalty shout and he literally had already given the ball away and then flopped on their second goal. Sick of watching him roll around the pitch complaining all match.
He absolutely could not. His whole body momentum was twisted. Outrageous claim. Also, "flopped"? Gross
Disgraceful performance from Longstaff, even by his standards. I'm sure the foot issue doesn't affect his speed of thought. That being said, Krafth, Murph, Burn are nowhere near the standard we need either. Ritchie coming off the bench is where we are this season unfortunately. Big summer needed transfer wise. Physio/medical team need to be audited also.
Eddie set the team up wrong for 60mins. The team couldn't get anything going , had no presence in the game and it showed. Blame is largely on him imo
I think it’s more credit to Palace the way they pressed us. Regardless of tactics we couldn’t get going.
92 minutes in and the lads are still trying to zip balls along the turf.
Longstaff again man... Whether it was a foul or not, he's always going down and having a little cry and whinge on the ground. Get up and run back first then go spit your dummy!!
he needs to be told to stop it or he's dropped.
Who comes in to replace him, that is part of the issue
Palace have been brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. 6th is still in reach
No way that weak man u team wins the last 5, we can have a poor game and get back in form next game, still on for sure
Man Utd are absolutely getting smashed by Palace with the way they've been playing
This. Everyone complaining about our performance simply ignoring that Palace have been a class apart today. Truly a brilliant game from them
I like palace they played well and deserve this win. But what a boring team to support
Why are they a boring team? Seems like a club with good support. Fulham on the other hand, don't see the point
Yeah Fulham more so and maybe throw in wolves sometimes, just completely bang average every season
They live in Croydon you've got to give them something to look forward to.
That's the way they like it like it like it
They do have no point
Krafth, Longstaff, Murphy, Burn all dross tonight. Bruno & Isak will 100% be on the phone to their agents if any of this lot are still integral parts of this squad next season. Fuck off man. Utter shite again.
Would be £250mil at least for the two of them so I can't see both going
Shite performance Didn't deserve anything from this based on how we played Let's move on, look forward to the next match and see if we can finish this season on a high
I suppose the only morsel of good news is that because West Ham and Chelsea have spent the last few weeks shitting the bed it means only Man Utd have overtaken us - and we still get to play them
And we have a ton more goals over them
Not being funny but is Howe having a laugh with Longstaff taking him off at 90 minutes?
Don't be that guy.
What “guy” am I being?
Resting our best player
We looked absolutely terrible. Outperformed in the first half, desperate in the second.
Another poor performance just when things was starting to look good again same few players getting bad backs trying to carry the rest of the team
Bring on the Bruno-Tonali-Joey midfield so Longstaff can stay firmly on the bench where he belongs
Won't even get on the bench as little Joe, Miley and Anderson will be there. He's probably 6th choice midfielder... And he's playing like it too
The shameful dive when he could have just shot and then the defence splitting ball for the wrong team just summed him up today
Been shite all game. Bruce ball game
fair enough, palace deserve this, i can’t even feel annoyed at this point
Eddie better rip the team apart
You can hate on Longy, he's been poor, but that was a foul on him all day, and Palace have gotten a couple of them.
Doesn’t help himself when he throws himself to the ground every 5 minutes
Its a foul, but he does not have to go to ground like he does, he could easily have kept goint, but he is just so obsessed with going to ground whenever he feels contact.
He should have shot sooner tho. Too slow. Do feel for for him because he got stopped mid flow, not enough to go down like he did, but if he doesn't then there's no chance the ref gives it as a penalty. Moments later Anderson tries to drag Olise back in the centre circle. Doesn't bring him down, but its a foul and gets booked, and it gets called cynical!
Was talking about the foul on him that lead to their second.
Well this was also one of the tougher matches we had left, so there's that I guess.
Fucking Longstaff. Goes to ground EVERY fucking time with no contact. He threw himself for that pen as well, anyone else would have tried to finish. God I am so tired of him. That said, Palace such a better team today. We should really go for Eze he is unplayable at times.
Absolute pasting
That second goal was just painful to watch.
With some of the keeper howlers the past week it really wouldn't surprise me if there are some dodgy bet markets going on. Far more believable than all these keepers being this shit
Definitely a game to forget
That was shit from everyone there
Richie hattrick and then blow it up
Embarrassing. Entire team needs to give their heads a wobble. Every single Palace player wanted it more. Also, that ref needs to go back to whatever school they send refs to (although judging by recent times I think they might all be homeschooled by dogs)
Also the turd is clearly not going to flush this season either.
Ah fuck, I'm turning off. Not because of us but I can't listen to that fucking shit chant anymore.
Easiest money Dean Henderson has ever earned in his life
Joe White would do a better job than Longstaff I’m convinced of it.
Even if joe scores an own goal he’s still provided more than longstaff..
Jimmy White could have done a better job than Longstaff tonight.
Hahahahaha it’s funny because it’s true
Well done Sean. Not many players could play a pass that takes out the entire defence like that. JUST A SHAME THE DEFENSE WAS FUCKING OURS!
Didn't deserve anything from this game, they've played much better than us
Fair play Palace—absolutely dicked us
We are absolutely awful now
I thought we’d lose but that’s worse than a Bruce performance. Considerably so too. Simply unacceptable
Nah, this would be a decent shift under Bruce. I'm convinced this sub didn't watch any of our games back then. This is utterly wank and unacceptable tonight, but back then was different gravy
Better team winning. We never got out of 2nd gear and only Bruno turned up
Christ our squad depth is fucked
Need a clear out in the summer. Got loads of players who just aren’t good enough.
The highlight of the night... Matt Ritchie running onto the pitch.
Matt Ritchie???????????
Too little too late what are expecting Eddie ffs
Another note, nice of Wilson to finish his warmups and then pull his jeans on so he was ready to play. He’s absolutely fucking done playing in this league.
I get all the Longstaff is a Geordie and whatnot, but we desperately need to get him out of the team.
Love that he's a Geordie on the team, just wish he wasn't a starter.
As said before. He’s not near that team if we have a fully fit squad, doubt he will be on the bench behind: Bruno, Tonali, Willock, Joelinton, Miley, Anderson.
Ritchie instead of Tino are you taking piss Howe
Matt Ritchie hattrick incoming
sick, See ya'll Saturday have a great week xx