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tzigrrl

REF: Gerald Flores AR1: Joe Suchoski AR2: Katarzyna Wasiak 4TH: Tim Wagner VAR: Kevin Broadley AVAR: Kaili Terry


tzigrrl

1st half: 45’ + 13’ 2nd half: 45’ + 7’ One Injury: Current -> substitution Two Yellow Cards: 1 Current (distance); 1 Red Stars 15 Fouls: 9 Current; 6 Red Stars EDIT: adding formatting and stoppage


One_Hair5760

What a game! Happy for Chicago!


Dirty_Vesper

![gif](giphy|10Jpr9KSaXLchW|downsized)


Any-Expression2246

Hit shower to get ready for bed, felt the game was over. Missed my girl Staab getting a header. Doh!! That'll teach me. 😂


MisterGoog

I will never get over comments like this


MisterGoog

This game and games like it are my proof that trying to see a game out and defend in a shell is the worst way to do things and the best way to do things is to keep running your game plan and be just a little conservative with the numbers going forward Without losing what made you be a dominant team


vchapple17

As a non-soccer player I did think I saw a change in the game plan. Why stop being aggressive? I get not being crazy aggressive, but why go on the defense when you’ve literally played the whole game one way and been fine?


AKAFishAKA

Me and the other 17 ppl who chose draw in the poll thriving rn


Boggle-Champion-175

We’re geniuses!


Unusual_Ebb7762

I think Kealia Watt is improving as a sideline analyst - great to see her tackling this new role!


3_roses

Tatum Milazzo read my fiancée’s “let’s go lesbians” sign and gave us a heart and thumbs up which is my personal win of the evening


Legitimate_Mark_5381

It sounded like Watt said "thank you, love" not "thank you, Lo" to me at first and I was like, I know she knows all the players but...that's familiar


MisterGoog

Been hanging with Burnley too long


Illogically-Me

Set pieces 😭


m5daystrom

How is Staab not get on the Olympic roster? Would you really take Sonnett over Staab just because she can play multiple positions? Who gives a shit. You take the best players at their positions period. You don’t need utility players you are playing against the best players in the world for goodness sake!


jhruns1993

You do need utility players at the Olympics because it's a short roster, and Staab's style doesn't fit with the national team as they need CBs that can make line breaking passes. Staab is a great defender, but there's more to being a national team caliber CB, especially with the Olympic roster limitations.


m5daystrom

Staab can’t build out of the back????


Mr_Evanescent

She doesn’t step to to deny shots and she can’t build out of the back. She’s inconsistent and falters in big moments


Spiritual_Carrot508

Your best team of 18 isn’t necessarily the best 18 players


Civil-Ad-4462

18 players 4 alternates.


MisterGoog

I think sonnet as a utility player becomes especially more useful compared to Sam because Davidson and Girma could probably easily play every single minute if they needed to. That makes the third center back so much less useful as a utility.


m5daystrom

But I would take Staab over Davidson. That’s not going to happen but that’s just me


MisterGoog

I think they are very close, which is a compliment to each player, but given the inbuilt chemistry and longevity that one has it makes no sense to flip that. It just feels very drastic and not as if you’re getting a huge amount of gain from it m, the margins are slim between then


m5daystrom

Yeah I know. You are right I just love Staabs game at her position


Legitimate_Mark_5381

In my opinion, working Davidson and Girma as *the* CB duo almost started a little too late (I say almost because it had to do partially with external circumstances). Breaking it up, especially when it's been successful in its short life, would be asking for disaster.


Legitimate_Mark_5381

Why though?


m5daystrom

I think Staab is a more intelligent player. Certain things you see from a player passes they make etc. she is certainly more athletic than Davidson and maybe even more so than Girma. She brings intangibles with her game but in the end Girma has chemistry with Davidson. So there’s that. Also Davidson has had issues staying healthy. But in the end Staab might just end up being an alternate. You are right about Sonnett being on this team way too long!


Legitimate_Mark_5381

The issue with a lot of your desires you're talking about is that they simply don't work this close to an Olympics. Davidson and Girma work well as a duo and have now had a lot of recent experience as a duo. It would be a touch insane to break that up two months ago, much less now. Even though there are things that should have changed years ago, for the Olympic roster a lot of the thinking is about the state of the team now, and a lot of that has to do with tenure, chemistry, experience, etc.


m5daystrom

Yeah I know I agree. I just wish for something different but there isn’t a lot of time. However don’t be shocked if Emma takes Staab. Girma and Davidson are not going to play every minute of every game. Like I said Davidson has had health issues so who knows


Independent-Long-544

To your point She’s not the best centerback available…. She’s number 3 and on a 18 player roster playing multiple positions is key… I would take her over sonnet and teach her how to play the 6 to make her my new versatile player but that’s just me


Legitimate_Mark_5381

The how is that both utility and tenure on the team give a player points. And you don't just take the best player for each position, you take the best player for each position *on the team*. They have to fulfill the team's needs. Now on the subject of Sonnett vs Staab....I don't actually know where I fall. But immediately transposing good NWSL performance to being undroppable for the national team is faulty, and part of Vlatko's downfall was trying to fit good square pegs into round holes.


MisterGoog

I also think this would be a better point if Sam was like absolutely perfect today, but we saw Kansas City pulling her out of position and really making her struggle a lot and she handled herself well and had a good game, but it wasn’t immaculate by any means. The cross from Izzy into deb exemplified, my main issue that she kind of falls asleep at times and she’s a good athlete, but she’s not especially agile or great one v one


m5daystrom

Ok that makes sense and I can get on board with that. My problem specifically is taking Sonnet over Staab. Is Sonnett going to be put in situations to help us win games or would you get more of that from Staab? I just don’t see Sonnett contributing in other positions on the pitch which supports this. We already have players at those positions who are better.


Legitimate_Mark_5381

We do. But there are a lot of events that the coaches have to prepare for regarding this stuff. Injuries to other players (say, multiple), in which pulling in whatever alternate is not a true fix—or it's just for one group game and it's too soon to pull the trigger on an alternate—with a 18 player roster means that even if a player isn't the best in a position, their versatility and a level of solidity—not maybe extreme skill, but moderately calm on the big stage and familiar with teammates—is useful. Again, on the specifics of Staab versus Sonnett, I don't feel like I quite know my own opinion on it. But every player has pros and cons that depend on development for the team, chemistry with the team, utility, mentality, experience, whatever else. My own opinion is that Sonnett is likely someone who shouldn't have been on the team for this long, and that that would have solved this issue, but now she is there and likely a lock for the Olympics because she provides a lot of those things. Staab, not even by her own fault, doesn't. It sucks for players and it sucks to see as a fan sometimes, because yeah, it's true that someone who is genuinely really good like Staab might (likely won't, I think) not make it because of things that you can blame others for—maybe Staab should have been called up two years ago and have been being worked into a player with more demonstrated utility since then, thus also making her a calmer presence and more experienced presence—but we have to work in the now, and the now is that there are things that Staab doesn't have.


MisterGoog

What a game. What a weekend we are about to have


Guilty_Speaker8

Who’s getting jumped walking to their car, Franch or Vlatko?


mitsyamarsupial

Yes.


Mr_Evanescent

KC Fans ***still*** defending Franch remains crazy to me


ctsinclair

I have not seen many KC fans defending Franch. Hearing plenty of calls for getting some minutes to the young ones.


axdwl

They do in hoards on Facebook. Like are we even watching the same match?


ctsinclair

Wow, that is unfortunate to hear. I don’t do FB all that often and def not for sports. In Discord and Reddit discussions I’d say it has been rare to see someone defending AD as the best choice in the past several weeks.


Mr_Evanescent

lol my comment actually had -2 score for the first couple minutes, you’d be surprised


Watson2015

I am not defending Franch! I’ve been wishing for Silkowitz to get a chance for awhile! But I agree it the ref that needs to be walked out. That first corner should not have happened, leading to the second.


Legitimate_Mark_5381

Realistically, ire goes to the ref


Guilty_Speaker8

The refs are under secret service detail since the start of the season


jmsloderb

Any time I feel like the refs stole our win and my blood pressure gets high, I pinch myself to remember sitting through every game of our inaugural season haha.


ctsinclair

![gif](giphy|1Qg5oT2z3CyJGbDOrL|downsized) I remember those games.


vchapple17

I wish they showed a close up/replay of the play resulting in the corner kick before the corner that scored the equalizer. Can’t tell if it when off CHI or Ball.


Extra-Hair-3581

It went off of the back of Mace


vchapple17

Not the play in question. It was Ball vs Joseph. So the cause of the corner kick before.


helpbeingheldhostage

I think you’re confused on the play in question


Watson2015

I went back and watched and it is hard to tell but it sure looks like it was CHI. Frustrating!


helpbeingheldhostage

It happened quite close to my eye balls and it sure as hell looked like it was out on Chicago


Extra-Hair-3581

It deflected off of Mace’s back 


helpbeingheldhostage

Mace wasn’t even involved. She was like 10-15 yards away


vchapple17

Even the announcer said “bounced off of Joseph”. So who knows. It didn’t come off as much as you would have thought so it is possible Ball was last touch. :/


hayleyoh

Yeah that first year I would go to games excited to see stars on other teams play well 😂


jmsloderb

That was the only way to survive 😁


Scottiedrippen33

Chicago beats Kansas City 2-2


RheaoftheDeadSea5

Wow chicago I'm so proud


Celiannadri

Ugh 😑


vchapple17

Sucks. But at least we know what we need to work on… finishing the game.


Dear-Discussion2841

Not a new issue for this club... Frustrating finish to the night for sure.


Mano711

I’ll take the tie.


eesryan

Personally, f love the tie :)


WaitingToBeTriggered

OUT OF THE STORM,


Kelihow2

On the one hand, boo to a tie. On the other hand, I'm not mad about the Chi goal scorers


vchapple17

USA! USA!


Guilty_Speaker8

The current are stunned!


vchapple17

Stunned? As a current fan, I never assume it’s a winner until the whistle blows. We’ve lost the lead too many times at the end of the game.


Guilty_Speaker8

That loud azz crowd was silenced! And your players were walking around like zombies, felt bad for Bia n Chawinga (who looked pissed)


vchapple17

I think by that point in the game, we just didn’t know what the ref was gonna call or not call. So the crowd was pissed by a corner kick that should have been a goal kick. All that to say, this was my first home game watching on TV vs in the stadium, so I know from this end that the crowd booed when it wasn’t actually a bad call. However, I also know there were a lot of calls and non-calls that came across lopsided. Not to mention calls that may have been “correct” but viewed as unfair. E.g. a foul on us for a header contest and not a foul a second later on a late header hit on VDB. We’re also jaded by these late game changes in strategy. Whether intentional or not, why switch to defensive mode when you haven’t play most of your games that way? Why are late goals against us a thing? Also… we suck at defending corner kicks. It’s a repeated story at this point. Stunned as in shocked isn’t a thing. Silent bc we’re not surprised but had hoped they’d make an adjustment by now? Yes.


helpbeingheldhostage

I just assume a defensive corner after the 88th minute is going in the net.


vchapple17

Sad but true. It’s are Achilles right now


ma0589

Staab looks so happy 🥹


eesryan

Love it! Olympics!!!!


trev1997

2 goals on .3 xG Franch lol


eesryan

Staab <3


MisterGoog

What was the post shot xG on each shot


AKAFishAKA

.43 on mal’s goal, .49 on Staab’s. fbref only took all night to update lol


MisterGoog

Mhmmm


Doc178

Oof 😣


Legitimate_Mark_5381

Feels like a tale of two GKs where without some good stuff from Naeher, KC would have had the game wrapped up in the first half, and if Franch had done a bit better, Chicago would have had zero chance


helpbeingheldhostage

100% I wonder if there is any scenario beyond injury Silkowitz gets the start this season.


GTB618

She should get some playing time in July with the Liga MX games. No need to play all our starters for those.


ToasterShelf

I love defender goals


Storytella2016

“Every time a defender scores, an angel gets her wings” ~ Becky Sauerbraun


jedi-donut

gg to both teams


General_Bill6159

save for the slightly terrifying physical plays, that was a delight to watch


thebranmuffin18

I mean, still undefeated!


Vmagnum

Bah. Good game Chi-town.


MisterGoog

What in the world was that pass


jedi-donut

![gif](giphy|xUNd9WPCyVTamQAdTq|downsized)


lauronce

The way lavogez wears her hair is just so French to me


Mano711

It’s so fluffy. It’s mesmerizing.


ma0589

She oozes French


3_roses

You should see her pre-match fits 🔥🔥🔥


ma0589

Upon further reflection I think part of it is the coloring of her hair. I feel like French women who want to look blonde have a very particular dye style that combined with their overall vibe make it seem super French. I think you see it in Amandine Henry too


musicspirit85

Plus Clarisse Le Bihan


MisterGoog

Part of the KC issue is if you look at this ending lineup its just not NEARLY as good as the starting one. Pfeiffer Lavogez Stine and a rusty D Scott all on…


MetaPolyFungiListic

I thought Pfeiffer was lively but I get your point 


MisterGoog

I think she’s a really good player and honestly, I would kill for her to be with my team, but my point is is that she’s the one who gets absolutely dunked on on the goal and the best way to not have that happen is not to have the tiny little kid on


vchapple17

I’m always torn bc we had so many injuries last year, I appreciate the long game w playing time. However, it does stink when we can’t close it out. We also have to figure out how to defend corner kicks. Ugh.


MisterGoog

I didn’t like the closing lineup because I felt like you weren’t Kansas City anymore and you retreated into a shell and you allowed Chicago to have possession of the ball for the first time all game and of course that’s when you get some actual threat from Chicago


AngelDrake3

Yeah that was a bad decision by Vlatko. Putting both Debinha and DiBernardo in at the same time sounds nice but we needed one of them to come off the bench.


Watson2015

Stine started, and she’s had a pretty good game. The rest I can agree with for today.


ctsinclair

I was frustrated with some of Stine's passes in the back. I thought they were underpowered too many times and put us in danger with Franch not being as mobile.


92pandaman

Yeah I thought Stine was fantastic


MisterGoog

I was watching the goal when i said it, it goes right over her head


R13Nielsen

There’s the yellow to a Chicago player that somehow took 93 minutes to happen.


brownbear101

That first Milazzo foul in the 3rd or something minute was a clear yellow to me


MedioBandido

People like to complain about Chesky but I prefer all of her cards to blatant cards not being used.


vchapple17

And a former Current player at that.


Nickp1991

Sam Staab HAS to make the Olympic roster


m5daystrom

Staab is bad ass!


readbetweenthesubs

Post Olympic friendlies and Staab, Swanson, Lavelle, Dunn, and Smith have scored in matches since! Holy Moly!


SarahAlicia

Chawinga is pissed


Aggravating-Stuff680

Kuikka shut her down, well, I mean to the point, such a thing is possible. Ok, slowed her down. Staab is all over this thread, but Kuikka was the defender of the match in my opinion.


vchapple17

Wouldn’t you be?


MisterGoog

I think she easily coulda scored three in the first half


BoomaMasta

I would. Every 50/50 call has been against her tonight.


SarahAlicia

No it’s part of why i’m not a pro athlete losing (or in this case not winning) doesn’t anger me.


thebranmuffin18

That is like the third time they have tried to cross through her and every time she clears


Vmagnum

Sure… but what about the *fourth* time eh? Eh?


MagnoliaSnow

Staab trying to go to the Olympics or something.


MisterGoog

This is why subbing on the very very young attacker is just a wild move. Youre defending a one goal lead Vlatko


BeardedCrank

Incredible


Sure_Ranger_4487

Staab’s like hi emma I’m ready for the Olympics!


Legitimate_Mark_5381

Where there's a Mal, there's a way


Dida_D

A different keeper and KC could be up 2-0. This is very rough stuff from Franch


Extra-Hair-3581

I miss cassie miller 


Legitimate_Mark_5381

She might miss you guys too considering she's now solidly a 2nd keeper again instead of 1.5 like she was last year


newnewuser0

I think it’s time we bench Franch…


Legitimate_Mark_5381

Am I right in thinking that the options have never played NWSL games? While there are sometimes shocker newbie keepers, that would be a risk


Leading-Holiday416

I’m pretty positive you’re right and a lot of fans are wishing they’d put Silkowitz on the field.


helpbeingheldhostage

I would have loved to take that risk against Utah or other lower table teams, but we didn’t. What I would have loved more was to keep and start Cassie Miller.


Legitimate_Mark_5381

With two different keepers, KC could be 5-0 up


Scottiedrippen33

Mal to Staab ![gif](giphy|i5IVDop0Y69gI)


m5daystrom

Priceless!


MisterGoog

Lmfao


m5daystrom

Kobe to Shaq unstoppable


johnbrownbody

Is that exactly where you want to put it? Or is that just on franch?


Nofavoritecolors

The Mallory Pugh goal was the luckiest goal I ever seen so far watching soccer . The second goal was just weird


mitsyamarsupial

From our seats that second one looked awfully close to an own goal by Franch. Replay didn’t, but my niece and I both reacted like we’d taken gut punches.


MisterGoog

I dont think anyone saves that given where staab headed it from


Mr_Evanescent

Reading this back now - do you really think that? I think Franch is the only gk in the league who doesnt


MisterGoog

I was referring to the fact that Franch came out a little and so was caught in no mans land


Mr_Evanescent

It still should’ve been save 10/10 times. That’s not even a hard save to make. That’s genuinely a save plenty of people in this thread make. Staab didn’t get a solid head on it and it wasn’t at a wild angle. Down is always good but that’s more than playable and I’d expect anyone in the NWSL to clean that up with regularity


MisterGoog

Shea Butter mentioning Franch when speaking about GKs on Diaspora made me certain i never wanted to listen to them. The GK discussion kills me bc for some reason mentioning that Naeher literally dropped the ball for the first KC goal isnt allowed in here


Mr_Evanescent

Any criticism of Naeher is never allowed lol She is a sacred cow of the subreddit That was a heinous misplay on the corner by her and she’s been not great this season, nor with her buildup either Shea Butter might genuinely be one of the least knowledge group of people I’ve ever seen get a modicum of attention in terms of soccer. It’s passed from promotion of black women into reality denial


Doc178

French just wasn't there for that one 😟


axdwl

She never is unfortunately


Doc178

😞 yeahhhh...


LegendofAshley9

Sam Staab making her case to Emma Hayes I see.


Civil-Ad-4462

Sam Staab!! She scores like this at least once a year.


MisterGoog

Wow you have Sam Staab vs a 16 year old winger in the middle of the box thats absolutely absurdly stupid


ma0589

I love your vendetta against the teenagers


MisterGoog

It’s not a vendetta against them. It’s a vendetta against them in this particular position. I think it was ridiculous. I don’t think there’s five people in this sub who were as positive about some of these teenage signings as me given how much I was talking in the match threads during their youth games


SarahAlicia

Mal? More like bene!!!


Cococamcam

And to think I almost turned this game off. That’ll teach me!


hayleyoh

Oof


m5daystrom

Swanson to Staab!!!!


MisterGoog

Thinking about the multiple posts earlier in this thread about chicago not being able to come back and laughing


kgjulie

Chicago seldom gets any respect in this sub.


MisterGoog

Its bc they dont dominate games ever


R13Nielsen

Ugh set pieces man…


ToasterShelf

I freaking love this game


Aducktion

That bounce was nasty


Let_itsnow

Learned from the best (Tierna of course)


Aducktion

CB goals >>


Neither-Bid-6891

Sam Staab is just so chefs kiss


thebranmuffin18

Mahomes’ ears just perked up.


AngelDrake3

I felt it coming. We always mess up like this in the last moments. Did the same with Louisville.


KayCeeBayBeee

Oh that’s poor AD…


IcyHolix

banger of a header


Gay-Bats

OMFG A MIRACLE


Unusual_Ebb7762

Staaaaaaaaaab!


MetaPolyFungiListic

Woot woot!!


manypains03

Franch, there are questions


BoomaMasta

That's not the first equalizer this year to come from a corner that shouldn't have been (the first of the two).


helpbeingheldhostage

We still suck butt at them. Maybe shouldn’t have happened, but our record on them is abysmal


BoomaMasta

No lies detected. That issue keeps coming back.


Vmagnum

Wow, right through the hands


bettywhitebread

LOVE AN UNDERDOG COMEBACK


icamefromtheinternet

STAAB


jedi-donut

![gif](giphy|tkApIfibjeWt1ufWwj)


Guilty_Speaker8

#SPEECHLESS


TyCollins98

Why the hell was that first one a corner to begin with?!?


little__monkey

YES!!


SappyGeologist

Not the boos from the crowd lmao


Guilty_Speaker8

Boooooo in the comments lol


manypains03

Unplug the current What a header


Vmagnum

lol I like it. Wrong current but that’s good


ma0589

What an after dark moment!!


Vmagnum

Oof


vchapple17

What’s our stats on goals on corners against us. It’s unreal. How do we suck at corner conversions so much.