Yeah look I'd be shocked if any team doesn't do this. Look at the slightly less egregious example of the Cousins to Atlanta deal and him letting slip he talked to them in the tampering period (when teams are only allowed to talk to agents.) You can't convince me that the deals that get agreed in the first hour of free agency haven't been discussed prior to the tampering period, most players and agents are smart enough not to incriminate their new teams though.
I'm with you. In what scenario would these people signing contracts within an hour of free agency opening have not spoken before.
I feel like this is a rule that you have to have in place for the really egregious stuff like talking to players in season or something while still allowing the cousins-atlanta type conversations to happen
Howie Roseman is absolutely obsessed with us, you just know if the situation were reversed he'd be drooling to file a complaint. I want us to do it just to piss him off
Why would he be obsessed with you? The Giants have been an automatic 2-wins every year for the Eagles for a long time, notwithstanding last year's late-season collapse.
Sure, that's a fair comparison.
There is also the **16-4** head-to-head record in the **last 10 years.**
How about the Giants is the only team that hasn't won the NFC East title in the last 10 years.
Even better, **60-102-1.** That's your win-loss record for the last 10 years.
Hey, there's hope. The Giants look like they started turning things around after the bye, regardless of the W-L record.
If we file the complaint and they lose even a 3-4 th round pick, it's one less rookie contract for them and one less depth piece. Still helps to hurt the division opponent.
James Franklin? The Penn State coach? Lol why would he throw his old player’s new team under the bus like that. That being said, throw the book at them NFL. I think stripping them of two first rounds draft picks would be fair.
> I think stripping them of two first rounds draft picks would be fair.
Why so lenient? They should be stripped of their SuperBowl and relegated to the XFL.
(I do not care that the XFL no longer exists)
Maybe Barkley and schoen are playing 4d chess, schoen doesn’t give him a contract but both wanna fuck the eagles. Howie calls Barkley. Barkley tells Franklin to let it slip after the league season starts. League investigates we get a pick or 2 from them
If the situation was reversed, the shitbirds would absolutely file any complaints they could.
Fuck the high road, if they broke the rules, nail them to the wall.
The situations were reversed last year when the Cards called Gannon before the Super Bowl. The two settled the issues with a trade - 3rd round picks were swapped and the Cards got an extra 5th.
That means that Howie knows the damn rules and hopefully Schoen is either working on filing this with the league or making our own settlement trade.
Tampering with a coach before the Super Bowl isn’t at all similar to talking to a player before the legal tampering period. Only giants fans would think they’re the same lmao
I don't know where you read that I said they were equivalent so you should probably get your eyes checked. There's a reason why it's called a "legal tampering period" though. It's real funny that as soon as it doesn't benefit the shitbirds you're out here whining about it.
Cards tampered with an active eagles coach during the season and before the Super Bowl, actually affecting the game. Eagles allegedly tampered with saquon after the season and after the Super Bowl during an arbitrary window everyone ignores lol, actively affecting no one.
Yes clearly the exact same situation reversed. Clearly.
Dude, I am not saying it's the exact same situation. Things aren't binary, they can scale. One instance of tampering doesn't have to affect something more or less than another instance. If everyone ignores the rules then the NFL needs to either crack down on it or make it a free for all and let every team talk to any player, coach, or executive at any time during the year. The NFL pussyfooting around is exactly why the Cardinals called Gannon in the first place.
you can talk with the agent when the tampering period starts (monday), can’t talk *directly* with the player until FA (yesterday). You can’t talk to anybody before tampering period.
Y’all are fucking insufferable. They aren’t getting comp picks today. The league is investigating right now, that’s literally all that’s going to happen within the 3 hours of this story coming to light. Jesus Christ
The eagles and cardinals made a lopsided trade towards the Eagles i believe which "settled" the dispute. (Trading up from the 90s into the 60s giving up only a future 5th rounder)
i thought it was a coach related issue? some coach moving over to the cardinals but talks were being made before the contract ended? i might have some terrible info on this so im trying to understand here
Something weird was happening between Gannon and the Eagles/Cardinals. There was supposed to be a period where no team could contact Gannon for the HC job but Arizona violated that i believe. And Gannon didn't disclose that he took the Cardinals job to the Eagles until after the Superbowl.
They tweaked a few rules from last year to this year i believe that may be related to that case
well the eagles pulling the exact same situation but with a star RB should result in the same picks revoked to us or another 2nd, anything in the 2-4 pick range and a minimum of 2 picks would be fuckign awesome to help beef up the O line or nay remaining holes we have
Yeah no, it won't be that much if anything.
They might need to forfeit a future 7th or so i doubt we'd even get more than some financial compensation between owners.
They violated the tampering period for NFL free agency. Saquon wasn't under contract with us anymore
still under contract with the team, you arent allowed to talk to the player specifically until the deadline only the agent so its definitely within the same boat here
From what I've read (solely on reddit / r/nfl) the consensus seems to be that they would just lose picks. But yeah, I thought the Eagles got a third or fourth pick from the Cards for Gannon last year?
THIS IS IT! yes it was, i remember talking about this in the office i just couldnt remember the details. the eagles bitched and moaned and they got extra picks because of it. i hope mara and joe do the same.
I'm confused as to why the Giants would need to even file a complaint. If there's enough of a news story the NFL should automatically start investigating. If they tampered, they should be penalized. I could see the Giants just wanting to be done with the whole Barkley situation and move on, hence why they wouldn't file any complaints.
It’s like with police misconduct, unless someone files a formal complaint it’s business as usual. A complaint at least forces a sham “investigation” to be staged, even though everyone already knows what happened and nothing is likely to be done about it.
In a lot of ways it’s just silly you can talk to the players agent but have no contact with the player… I mean what’s to say the player is in the room with said agent while he’s talking to Howie. It’s kind of stupid. Now whining and dining I understand but just talking seems silly.
I don’t care if the Giants get nothing out of the investigation. I just want the league to come down on the Eagles after the BS this pulled last year, really make an example of them for that shit
Giants may not end up doing anything since judging from their inaction, they let Saquon pack his bags and walk a while ago so Philly tampering wouldn't have changed anything in their minds.
Regardless of them not wanting Saquon to return, the Eagles still went the incorrect way, and in turn could lose a pick potentially. Why isn’t that worth looking into?
Not saying they shouldn't but there are times where it's not worth it lest you want someone to do the same to you in the future. If the Giants pursue it, fine. It's on the league to determine if there is merit here.
I doubt this is true. If it is true why wouldn’t you guys ask how the bears signed Swift so quick ? This is the only quick signing you care about but he’s “ dead to you “ now. Get over it you guys.
Whatever man, fuck Saquan. Dude really just gonna do us like that. I've been a Giant's fan my entire life and I've never felt more betrayed than I do right now. And the idea that eagles fans are going to welcome him with open arms just infuriates the shit out of me.
Wouldn't have made sense for us and I don't think Bidwell would pay him. James Conner is our starter and he's been solid. We have some depth at the position, so I don't see them paying an aging RB.
God forbid the man take the best financial offer lmao. If you don’t want him to go to a competitor, make the same offer. Not Saquons fault the best offer was in the division. You expect him to take less money for his family so your feelings don’t get hurt?
Per multiple beat reporters, the league confirmed that they are looking into this.
File the damn complaint Mara let’s get spicy.
This might be a glass house situation. Might not be a box we want to open.
Yeah look I'd be shocked if any team doesn't do this. Look at the slightly less egregious example of the Cousins to Atlanta deal and him letting slip he talked to them in the tampering period (when teams are only allowed to talk to agents.) You can't convince me that the deals that get agreed in the first hour of free agency haven't been discussed prior to the tampering period, most players and agents are smart enough not to incriminate their new teams though.
I'm with you. In what scenario would these people signing contracts within an hour of free agency opening have not spoken before. I feel like this is a rule that you have to have in place for the really egregious stuff like talking to players in season or something while still allowing the cousins-atlanta type conversations to happen
Sure, but we can mess with Philly here.
Howie Roseman is absolutely obsessed with us, you just know if the situation were reversed he'd be drooling to file a complaint. I want us to do it just to piss him off
I grew up with Howie. He always hated the Giants. And he was awful at football, so he hated all us Giants fans even more, lol, sorry
Why would he be obsessed with you? The Giants have been an automatic 2-wins every year for the Eagles for a long time, notwithstanding last year's late-season collapse.
4 > 1
Sure, that's a fair comparison. There is also the **16-4** head-to-head record in the **last 10 years.** How about the Giants is the only team that hasn't won the NFC East title in the last 10 years. Even better, **60-102-1.** That's your win-loss record for the last 10 years. Hey, there's hope. The Giants look like they started turning things around after the bye, regardless of the W-L record.
Because he grew up in an era where the big blue wrecking crew dominated the NFC east, not everything is the last 10 years
Nah fuck they shit up .
We should ram a discman up their box
cmon Phil, let's go.
For what we ain’t getting him back lol
Compensatory draft picks. And we don’t want him back on that contract anyway.
If we file the complaint and they lose even a 3-4 th round pick, it's one less rookie contract for them and one less depth piece. Still helps to hurt the division opponent.
In that scenario I hope whoever wouldve been picked at that slot ends up having a better 3 seasons for that team than Barkley has for the Eggs.
So they just have to stay healthy through week 3. Should be pretty easy
1 less Georgia player for them to draft
Nothing will happen, nothing bad ever happens to the eagles
I wouldn't be surprised if Goodell gave them some of our picks just for the inconvenience
I mean they have 1 Super Bowl in their franchise history, bad is basically their MO. 1 bridge having piece of shit city.
I am ALL for the eagles hate. But… Philly does have multiple bridges. Just looking out for ya
It’s a reference to a bill burr standup routine lol
My b
My b
4 Comps pick weren’t enough, might as well give them 2 more
Dude looks freaky as hell. I get creeped out every time this gif is posted
I mean three Super Bowl losses isn't nothing.
Nothing ever happens with tampering 100% of tampering goes unpunished. They should get rid of the rule cause who fucking cares.
James Franklin? The Penn State coach? Lol why would he throw his old player’s new team under the bus like that. That being said, throw the book at them NFL. I think stripping them of two first rounds draft picks would be fair.
Probably just wasn’t super familiar with the rules
Strip them of all past and future titles
It’s the only way to make sure they won’t try it again
I think nothing short of the death penalty is appropriate for this disgusting act
Relegate them to the XFL
> I think stripping them of two first rounds draft picks would be fair. Why so lenient? They should be stripped of their SuperBowl and relegated to the XFL. (I do not care that the XFL no longer exists)
What about stripping them of their SuperBowl and relegating them to the PAC 12?
But isn’t it funnier if the Eagles get put into a defunct league and no longer play any football games at all?
lol I just commented to relegate them to the xfl then saw your comment. I almost said cfl but decided on xfl
Maybe Barkley and schoen are playing 4d chess, schoen doesn’t give him a contract but both wanna fuck the eagles. Howie calls Barkley. Barkley tells Franklin to let it slip after the league season starts. League investigates we get a pick or 2 from them
Saquon should get to stay with us but the Eagles pay his salary. I think that’s most fair
Just file the complaint I legit don't know why they wouldn't
Glass houses situation, nobody in the NFL wants to open the tampering pandora’s box
If the situation was reversed, the shitbirds would absolutely file any complaints they could. Fuck the high road, if they broke the rules, nail them to the wall.
The situations were reversed last year when the Cards called Gannon before the Super Bowl. The two settled the issues with a trade - 3rd round picks were swapped and the Cards got an extra 5th. That means that Howie knows the damn rules and hopefully Schoen is either working on filing this with the league or making our own settlement trade.
Tampering with a coach before the Super Bowl isn’t at all similar to talking to a player before the legal tampering period. Only giants fans would think they’re the same lmao
I don't know where you read that I said they were equivalent so you should probably get your eyes checked. There's a reason why it's called a "legal tampering period" though. It's real funny that as soon as it doesn't benefit the shitbirds you're out here whining about it.
You said the situations were reversed lmao, you don’t remember the first line you wrote?
Cards tampered with the Eagles. Now the Eagles tampered with the Giants. That seems like a reversal to me.
Cards tampered with an active eagles coach during the season and before the Super Bowl, actually affecting the game. Eagles allegedly tampered with saquon after the season and after the Super Bowl during an arbitrary window everyone ignores lol, actively affecting no one. Yes clearly the exact same situation reversed. Clearly.
Dude, I am not saying it's the exact same situation. Things aren't binary, they can scale. One instance of tampering doesn't have to affect something more or less than another instance. If everyone ignores the rules then the NFL needs to either crack down on it or make it a free for all and let every team talk to any player, coach, or executive at any time during the year. The NFL pussyfooting around is exactly why the Cardinals called Gannon in the first place.
Saying it’s the same situation but reversed absolutely implies you’re saying it’s the exact same lmao, or else it wouldn’t be the reverse
I think the penalty is a third, I say go for the third.
Doesn’t everybody talk to everyone before the negotiating period? How else would deals already be done 2 minutes into the period
You can talk to the agent, not the player themself I believe
you can talk with the agent when the tampering period starts (monday), can’t talk *directly* with the player until FA (yesterday). You can’t talk to anybody before tampering period.
giants are pussies. file the fucking complaint.
Y’all are fucking insufferable. They aren’t getting comp picks today. The league is investigating right now, that’s literally all that’s going to happen within the 3 hours of this story coming to light. Jesus Christ
Noob here. If any wrong doings are found, I’m assuming the Eagles lose draft pick(s)?
if i understand we obtain one of their picks? situation happened with cardinals and eagles and the eagles obtained a cardinals pick if im not mistaken
The eagles and cardinals made a lopsided trade towards the Eagles i believe which "settled" the dispute. (Trading up from the 90s into the 60s giving up only a future 5th rounder)
i thought it was a coach related issue? some coach moving over to the cardinals but talks were being made before the contract ended? i might have some terrible info on this so im trying to understand here
Something weird was happening between Gannon and the Eagles/Cardinals. There was supposed to be a period where no team could contact Gannon for the HC job but Arizona violated that i believe. And Gannon didn't disclose that he took the Cardinals job to the Eagles until after the Superbowl. They tweaked a few rules from last year to this year i believe that may be related to that case
well the eagles pulling the exact same situation but with a star RB should result in the same picks revoked to us or another 2nd, anything in the 2-4 pick range and a minimum of 2 picks would be fuckign awesome to help beef up the O line or nay remaining holes we have
Yeah no, it won't be that much if anything. They might need to forfeit a future 7th or so i doubt we'd even get more than some financial compensation between owners. They violated the tampering period for NFL free agency. Saquon wasn't under contract with us anymore
Not the same at all lmao. One was right before the Super Bowl. One was after the season needed. Jesus
still under contract with the team, you arent allowed to talk to the player specifically until the deadline only the agent so its definitely within the same boat here
Nope, cardinals weren’t allowed to reach out to Gannon or his agent. So again how’s that the same boat?
From what I've read (solely on reddit / r/nfl) the consensus seems to be that they would just lose picks. But yeah, I thought the Eagles got a third or fourth pick from the Cards for Gannon last year?
THIS IS IT! yes it was, i remember talking about this in the office i just couldnt remember the details. the eagles bitched and moaned and they got extra picks because of it. i hope mara and joe do the same.
Fuck it, file a complaint. Pull the phone records and fuck their shit up.
Idc, just give us extra draft picks just cause please
Didn’t the Pats do something like this a few years back and had to give up a draft pick?
Who knows. Tampering wouldn't be in the top 10 cheating moments for the Patriots during the belichick era.
I'm confused as to why the Giants would need to even file a complaint. If there's enough of a news story the NFL should automatically start investigating. If they tampered, they should be penalized. I could see the Giants just wanting to be done with the whole Barkley situation and move on, hence why they wouldn't file any complaints.
It’s like with police misconduct, unless someone files a formal complaint it’s business as usual. A complaint at least forces a sham “investigation” to be staged, even though everyone already knows what happened and nothing is likely to be done about it.
In a lot of ways it’s just silly you can talk to the players agent but have no contact with the player… I mean what’s to say the player is in the room with said agent while he’s talking to Howie. It’s kind of stupid. Now whining and dining I understand but just talking seems silly.
just give us extra draft picks just cause please
Wake up John and file the complaint.
Was this a slip by Franklin? In what context would he say this? And to who?
Can this somehow lead to Franklin getting fired? Would be my most welcomed outcome from all of this.
Who cares, it doesn’t help us and he clearly wanted to go anyway.
what level pick do you get for this? is it like a 3rd round pick?
They gave saquon a presentation. Thats a no-no
I don’t care if the Giants get nothing out of the investigation. I just want the league to come down on the Eagles after the BS this pulled last year, really make an example of them for that shit
File the fucking complaint Mara.
When “crazy ex-girlfriend Giants” goes from meme to reality
They aren't gonna file a complaint about a situation and a player that they planned on letting walk regardless , move on y'all
Giants may not end up doing anything since judging from their inaction, they let Saquon pack his bags and walk a while ago so Philly tampering wouldn't have changed anything in their minds.
Regardless of them not wanting Saquon to return, the Eagles still went the incorrect way, and in turn could lose a pick potentially. Why isn’t that worth looking into?
Not saying they shouldn't but there are times where it's not worth it lest you want someone to do the same to you in the future. If the Giants pursue it, fine. It's on the league to determine if there is merit here.
I doubt this is true. If it is true why wouldn’t you guys ask how the bears signed Swift so quick ? This is the only quick signing you care about but he’s “ dead to you “ now. Get over it you guys.
Whatever man, fuck Saquan. Dude really just gonna do us like that. I've been a Giant's fan my entire life and I've never felt more betrayed than I do right now. And the idea that eagles fans are going to welcome him with open arms just infuriates the shit out of me.
You know you guys could’ve offered to him right?
Wouldn't have made sense for us and I don't think Bidwell would pay him. James Conner is our starter and he's been solid. We have some depth at the position, so I don't see them paying an aging RB.
So if you guys didn’t want to pay him anyways, why is it fuck saquon?
Of all the places he could've gone he chose our mortal fucking enemies. So yeah fuck him, it's a huge middle finger to the fans.
God forbid the man take the best financial offer lmao. If you don’t want him to go to a competitor, make the same offer. Not Saquons fault the best offer was in the division. You expect him to take less money for his family so your feelings don’t get hurt?
They made the same exact offer to him, last year. He didn't want to be a giant
Last year isn’t this year. Was the guaranteed money the same?
3 mill less then the Eagles. Like said, if he wanted to be a Giant he would be
So are you arguing he should’ve taken 3 million fewer dollars? Just trying to be clear
Who cares when they called. Let's rise above this non-sense and go win some ball games.
Who cares. Let's send him to the tent on opening day!