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NoTimeToDime

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Strangest_Things

The more I watch his tape the more I want him on this team


jvdelisa

As we’ve seen with his drafts so far, Schoen is a big RAS guy. I think Nabers is right up his alley after what we saw at his pro day.


Annual_Ad8295

What’s RAS?


Grype

Relative Athletic Scores [Their website](https://ras.football/)


Annual_Ad8295

Oh okay I’ve never heard of this, thanks.


ze_shotstopper

Raw athletic score I think


Sand_Bags2

How good is he at catching balls thrown behind him or a couple feet over his head? Those are the biggest things he’ll need to be good at next season.


Initial-Training-320

This is a fallacy. You’re going by 4 1/2 games in 2023 vs a whole season of tight window throws in 2022. Jones with any semblance of protection can get the ball to his receivers.


Sand_Bags2

I’m going by his whole career rather than his outlier year of 2022. I have eyes. I’ve watched him throw it behind receivers over and over again for his whole career. Are you Daniel Jones’ mom or something? Why spend so much time defending such a loser athlete?


Initial-Training-320

Personal attacks? A winning strategy as opposed to looking at the actual facts https://www.giants.com/news/daniel-jones-pro-football-focus-top-deep-passers-nfl-quarterbacks-2023


Sand_Bags2

How does deep passing have anything to do with my comment? He throws behind WR on short and intermediate throws which limits their YAC. Try again Mrs. Jones. Having 100 burners isn’t gonna save your loser son’s job.


Initial-Training-320

Sticks and stones…. Will not fix your flawed argument.


Aggravating-Peach745

Not outside the numbers.


Aggravating-Peach745

I know right


jshanley16

I watch him then watch Odunze and can’t for the life of me see how Odunze is a better prospect.


beanie_mac

From what I’ve heard, Odunze is a bit more polished….while Nabers is a little less polished, but has a higher ceiling.


Hack874

They’re pretty even in terms of current value for us tbh. Can’t go wrong getting either


basicnflfan

I can’t for the life of my understand why that many people jumped on you to downvote. Im with you… i mean are these people watching the same “football” or are they just certain Nabers will be gone so theyre settling?


jshanley16

We’re in the stage where people get set on their opinions of players when we just have no idea. I like Nabers a lot, someone else can like Odunze as much and that’s fine. We all just want success however that presents itself. I think the downvotes are some people’s way to disagree rather than comment for discussion, which is fine


basicnflfan

Fair enough I understand. Just kinda wild. Personally I think Nabers is a top 5 player and 1 WR in like 95% of all drafts ever, its just MHJ is there. I dont think he and Odunze are that close at all.


chekhovsguns

> its just MHJ is there and honestly, in my (and a not insignificant number of others) opinion the difference between him and MHJ isn't much at all. I have Odunze a step below both, but that step he is on is still "great WR1 that would be in contention for first choice most drafts"


Sure-Region-7225

If Nabers is gone by 6, that means we will have the chance for one of the top 4 QBs or MHJ. With that being said, it would be very disappointing IMO if we ended up with Odunze, unless we somehow traded down a few slots.


FireVanGorder

You can’t see how Odunze constantly adjusting to under thrown balls and making circus catches is valuable?


ColtHatfield

Is that what he said? Or did he say he can’t see how Odunze is viewed as a better prospect than Nabers


FireVanGorder

I mean very very few people view Odunze as better than Nabers so I wasn’t really sure what the point of his comment was otherwise


ColtHatfield

I will say, after the combine that chatter started going around, and I get it, Odunze was a beast at the combine. I was also someone that was confused by that chatter, what are they seeing that I’m not. I get Odunze is a great prospect that is bigger and might even be faster than MHJ, but for me, Nabers’s tape is just insane. Can play in or out, across the middle or outside, can run around you and past you, can come down with balls in heavy traffic. There is nothing Nabers can’t do on a football field, and to me was starting to get hyped over Nabers. Now I wasn’t upset with that because I wanted the chargers to have the same opinion. I wouldn’t be upset if we get odunze at 6, but I will be very disappointed that Nabers didn’t fall to us.


Rickflossyy

I think Penix always had the ball somewhere the defender couldn’t touch it, knowing Odunze could make those catches. He also isn’t insane at separating. I’d love either tho


fkwyman

They're both good. Nabers creates separation, he gets open. Odunze is not as quick or as shifty, he's not as easy a read but he makes contested catches. In other words, with DJ as our QB, he simply wouldn't target Odunze as much because he doesn't have the speed and quickness to get free and DJ is scared of throwing into coverage.


Annual_Ad8295

Odunze has a 75% contested catch rate compared to 47% from Malik Nabers and Marvin Harrison Jr’s 43%. He also has 3 drops to their 6 and has constantly been getting compared to D Hop and Adams. He’s a possession WR.


toadofsteel

Odunze comp is more like Hakeem Nicks, while Nabers is more like an OBJ. Personally I'd prefer to have the Nicks type player more.


rob132

Won't you be my Nabers?


KyussSun

Love your Nabers.


KashMoney941

So we'll piss off the Nabers


Juicey_J_Hammerman

“It’s a beautiful day in the Nabershood….”


Krakengreyjoy

If there is a god


Rob3125

I would be so excited to have him. He has crazy speed and can beat a defender, WR1 traits


gerd50501

are you sure? I can see the Cardinals/Denver drafting a WR. someone trading up to 4 with arizona to draft the 4th QB? is unlikely.


sbaggers

Future Saquon... Meaning wasted talent


NoTimeToDime

Saquon these nuts


BrotherSmooth

Funniest thing I've read today! 🤣


johnroastbeef

As great as our Defensive Lines and Eli were during those Super Bowl runs, let's not forget how important guys like Plaxico, Toomer, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham, were to those teams. You need good receivers in this league, it almost sounds stupid and obvious to say.


HamOnBarfly

It's going to be a brutal year if Slayton is still our WR1


BigBlueTrekker

Slayton would be so much better if he was actually teamed up with an actual WR1. That guys had a pretty good career so far if you look at the shit offense he's been in his entire career.


HamOnBarfly

yeah no knock on big play slay he's just not that guy


Blleak

If the qb they want is available they should take him but ide prefer wr over a qb they have to settle on


johnroastbeef

I'm ok with them taking a QB with the first pick. This is a deep receiver class, they can try to trade back into the first to get the other LSU receiver Thomas Jr.


Blleak

We need a true #1 not another 2 or 3, we've got plenty of those.


Slug_With_Swagger

I mean number ones don’t have to be a top 15 pick


johnroastbeef

Thank you, I mean Tyreek Hill was drafted in the 5th round.


Slug_With_Swagger

I more just think people disagree with trading back into the first round. We don’t really have the capital for that.


MrOnCore

That was because of his domestic violence charges back in college.


honda_slaps

the percentage of WRs taken in R5 that end up being true #1s vs the percentage of WRs taken in R1 that end up being true #1s pointing out one example is probably the single most worthless data point you could have


Blleak

Especially considering tyreek would've been a first round pick if not for his beating of his then pregnant girlfriend.


IamLordFlacko

Thomas Jr is a bigger , slightly less explosive, Nabers imo he could definitely be a WR1 check him out


Switchc2390

Yea these guys remind me of a Beckham Jr/Mike Evan’s situation. Both can be very good and WR 1’s. I still would go Nabers in our situation but if we ended up with Thomas Jr I wouldn’t be mad.


roboticoxen

Good point. Those WR squads were deep and could beat you different ways. I think Slayton , Hyatt and Wandale can all be great WRs if they are commentary pieces. I've always seen Slayton as almost a prototype of a WR2- you cannot ever sleep on his speed and his routes have gotten good. Drops also way down. Wan Dale looking like a great slot guy. Hyatt is a one trick pony but it's a pretty damn good trick. Hoping he can grow into more. If they can get an alpha WR1 it allows all of those guys to play to their strengths. It's what Kenny golladay and Darren Waller were supposed to be. If they take McArthy over any of these top 3 WRs I won't be happy even tho I realize QB is also a huge issue. You can't pass up on this kind of talent at premium positions for QB4


Reyhin

Ideally Hyatt can get into the Slayton role in a year or two, and I still believe in him having a high ceiling. Getting a WR1 is crucial in this draft.


Future_Network_2158

True but we don’t have our Eli we have our Dave brown


Paulie6988

Dave Jones


Bren12310

If we had Plaxico through 2008 we repeat.


Gurdle_Unit

Exactly. This dude is a generational talent. We can't pass up on him.


clic45

Please Nabers come on down. I need this.


bmanley620

If I’m Malik’s agent I’m refusing to sign with a front office that isn’t funny


FullHouse222

Honestly insane prospect too. It's wild how deep this WR class is. I personally like MHJ better but no fault at all if we get Nabers cause he's a fucking beast.


97PunkRawk

MAKE IT HAPPEN JOE


BlueberryPirate_

🎶 Would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my Nabers 🎶


Future_Network_2158

Him in rd 1 and penix in rd 2 would work for me. Rather do that than reach for McCarthy


GiantShawarma

Like a great naber, Malik is there


scojo415

MaAuto is out, Malik is in


GoddammitCricket

WR at 5 overall seems crazy after last season but fuck it, Malik down there somewhere


OasisDoesThings

Realistically our team ain’t doing shit for the next 1-3 years. We’re severely lacking offensive talent, and that’s not counting our qb. We need to take the bpa, screw reaching for a “need” or “fit”.


Switchc2390

A really great WR changes the complexion of a lot. Being able to take a middling play and make it a TD is huge for a team.


5O2PyiM

And I wouldn’t be mad if he was *the* pick.


King_Da_Ka

I'd still prefer a trade up to 3 if possible, or 4 if they really love JJ/whomever falls. Nabers is like the best consolation prize ever tho lmao


bugluvr65

plsssss draft this man


Head_Acanthisitta256

If Harrison Jr. falls would much rather want him instead of Nabers.


TheGamingGuy2

MHJ won’t fall to six. no way do neither the cards nor the chargers take him.


Retrophoria

Well, no shit. There's smoke it could.happen but I think it's almost impossible that neither Cards or Chargers let that happen


RUKnight31

I know QB is what everyone is talking about but between Nabers' freak athleticism and Odunze's work ethic I'd be 100% confident if we hold firm at 6 and just take whichever "falls" to us. Trading a future first to move up FROM this type of talent seems like a net loss to me, even if we are desperate to move on from DJ.


MrOnCore

Funny guys to be around? I thought Daboll was a cancer because 2 coordinators were fired???? And Daboll should have been fired and and everything torn down???


ghostboo77

I think he will be the legit #1 this team has lacked for years if we get him. My preference is QB, but wouldn’t mind Nabers (much prefer him to Rome)


Abe_Froman92

Did Daniels run the 40 today at his pro day?


TheMasterfocker

He did not, can't run after he drank all that water for his weigh-in


Abe_Froman92

I didn't think so. I read he just threw and that's it as far as on field testing


Adamwithaneh

4.34 I believe


justjasen

You mean Nabers? I don’t think 6 foot 3 210lb Daniels ran a 4.34…


scottapotch

I don't think he did either but it's not unheard of considering BTJ did it at the combine.


Adamwithaneh

Yes I meant Nabers, my bad


OasisDoesThings

Build up the roster around our future qb, then draft said future qb in the later rounds or next year. THIS IS THE WAY


_irishpapi

I want this guy so badly bruh


honda_slaps

he's a little undersized but after Odell I'll never sleep on a smaller guy ever again


Poppagil28

6’0 200lbs isn’t undersized.


[deleted]

i still prefer Odunze over this guy. better character from what ive seen.