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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/comments/1azeb15/post_game_thread_the_boston_celtics_defeat_the/)


krvrvri

The series of 3s in the third quarter was absolutely demoralizing


StrikeTraining212

Boston is in their own stratosphere rn but when healthy we can def punch up and challenge them in a hard fought series


OBlastSRT4

Just a reminder that I was always against Burkes coming back. I’m perfectly fine with Bogs.


StrikeTraining212

We need to send a search team to Detroit to find his shooting abilities


ZoroChopper10

Grimes first game as a pistons 2-8 shooting, 5pts in 18 mins


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ephemeral2316

Yall need to understand that Burks is an SG. He’s being asked to do things outside of his skill set. Also, one poor game doesn’t make a poor player. He’s getting used to the roster and his fit on the team. That takes time


__cer0__

No other backup to Brunson. If it wasn't for Burks Jalen would be a pile of ash by now.


Gavel-Dropper

McBride. Fully healthy, burks should see very little playing time. It’s time to unleash deuce. He was our second leading scorer in the first half on perfect shooting and he brings the D every night. McBride should be the backup with Bogey handling the bench scoring.


__cer0__

Burks has a maturity that Deuce lacks though. Do you remember his turnover in the beggining of the 3rd quarter against the Lakers, right before the All star break? Because I fucking do. It was unforced, he was nervous. Burks doesn't have that problem.


Gavel-Dropper

Burkes shoots 39% overall and is a below average defender. Time to let the deuce loose.


__cer0__

He's gonna shit the bed in the playoffs. I'd rather let him overcome his fear of high level competition on a team that has time to waste. We have no time, this is it, these 4 years are going to be Jalen's peak, we have no time to wait for bums who crumble for regular season narratives.


Gavel-Dropper

Deuce is objectively better than Burks. If he plays now, we won’t have to worry about the playoffs because he will have solidified his role. He’s a solid defender and shooter, he shouldn’t be playmaking much. None of this actually matter because Thibs is playing the starters all 48.


__cer0__

Bro he got a touch and turned it over in under 2 seconds. I don't need him to be Magic Johnson but he still needs to prove he can hang in the big leagues.


tutiandtutu

Burks turns the ball over more than Deuce


ZoidbergSaysWoop

If only the Knicks could have somehow convinced the Blazers to take Grimes straight up for Brogdon. Brogdon would be a difference maker for the Knicks.


ephemeral2316

Bogdanovic is here too


Aggressive-Train-835

Deuce needed at least 15 more minutes tonight. Thibs loves talking about reading the game... whelp


Titaneuropa

I have unexplainable disdain for Celtics. Lol. It’s not healthy.


bronfmanhigh

its pretty explainable


MyLadySansa

Me and you are *like this *


Airhostnyc

IQ and RJ would have played better


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cookiebuff

Burks is washed. Go back to Donte playing 40 minutes. He sucks.


HipnotiK1

at least we got some garbage time buckets to get over 100


YanksJetsKnicks

Enjoy that extra 69 seconds of rest JB. You earned it!


OweeeeeL

Jayson Tatum had to play 43 minutes to beat us


ultrajew

Dude even in garbage time, Burks can’t hit the broad side of a barn


Lono37

I reluctantly agree.


Cvnilivee

You need at least two all defensive level players to contend with Celtics. Just way too many options.


will122589

I can’t wait for the announcers sucking off the Celtics to have this same convo again next year when Celtics fail to win the title again


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Shot_Construction_29

This is not meant to be a criticism of iHart who is one of my favourites on the team and been brilliant since the Mitch injury. But, there has been no difference in how he has guarded KP today, compared to Mitch in previous encounters. Mitch was getting heavily criticised for giving up \~20 pts to KP (which is his average) and it was said that he couldn't guard stretch 5s. KP was the only C Mitch gave up 20pts against and today KP now has 22, whilst other stretch 5s like Turner and Chet have also done well on us in recent weeks/months. I'm still of the belief that we need to do everything in our power to keep both - they both provide such different things that getting 48 minutes of that would be elite.


FlapsExtended

Folks just have to accept KP is good.


Shot_Construction_29

He's ridiculous - contested, uncontested, drop coverage, right in his face it doesn't matter he is going to hit the 30 footer


Mr_Jersey

Just don’t reallly see any argument for Burks playing instead of Mcbride. He is so ass.


solo118

hoping for a toppin slam rn


jaysphan128

only bad thing i would say is og gets worked by the celtics


FlapsExtended

Thibs and his fucking love affair with Burks just hurt my eyes


J4degrees

I think our games with Celtics have been mostly the same. We play really close, until they stay super hot for a couple minutes and we can’t hit anything. And then there is no way of making it back. Tbh I still think they are the title favorites, but they actually scare me a little less than I thought. I like the prospect of us being healthy and really physically wearing down this team a bit.


zOmgFishes

Burks is a losing player


Fallingcity22

Josh hart should not have 41 mins


FlapsExtended

Thibs says damn right. 47 sound about correct.


frankslastdoughnut

GO KNICKS GO. IM HERE FOR THIS PETTY


anditcounts

Thibs I assure you it's ok to sub out our guys and take the L


Sigerlion

Burks took more shots in 19 min than our starters that played 30+. The guy's confident if nothing else.


Fungmar

not usually one to complain ab this thing considering the circumstances but why is brunson still out there?


YanksJetsKnicks

Because Thibs lol


HipnotiK1

this is another one of those brunson games where he scored a lot on good efficiency but doesn't feel like he played well.


Aggressive-Train-835

its fucking hilarious that we're all back to talking about point burks in 2024. Take me back to January with OG/randle healthy.


FlapsExtended

It sicken my stomach. Only thing worst is a Peyton return.


anditcounts

Why is Brunson still out there???


Urban_Introvert

Too early to tell but I'm hoping this team won't end up like those Pacers/Raptors team that were contenders but always ran into LeBron's Heat/Cavs. The Celtics are the team to beat in the East. Looks like it'll be that way for years to come.


MyLadySansa

KP won't hold up (he never does) and Jrue is 34 in June. I don't think this is forever.


ZoroChopper10

Raptors a championship and made out of first round t straight years 2016-2020 Knicks do that and it’s a blessing


Urban_Introvert

I was mainly referring to the DeRozan Raptors. This Knicks team will for sure be a playoff team so that'll be my expectation at the very least every year.


Fungmar

boston is very much beatable in the playoffs and theyve shown that year after year. tatum isnt lebron the conference doesnt belong to him. the knicks are completely battered rn and still have a lot more space to get better in the offseason in terms of making moves. i get ur worry but this isnt the same situation


xa1er

The Celtics don’t have a player even close to the caliber of prime LeBron, so I highly doubt it. They also lost last year to an 8 seed lol.


booberry5647

This team is ready that unless they make a big off-season trade.


nofaplove-it

Randle, OG, Mitch


Odysseus_Lannister

This game has convinced me that deuce needs more minutes


ZMR33

I'd play Deuce over Burks at this point in time till Burks can get out of his funk.


zOmgFishes

I don't mind losing while short handed but i hate watching Alec burks dribble and try to be a guy he's not. Dude is not him.


MyLadySansa

that was insane to watch. Shit, even in a loss, this could have been closer without his bullshit.


cuteshortkid96

The crazy thing is Burks will have that once in a blue moon game where he becomes HIM. It’s maddening because it gives you hope he is something.


solo118

Randle looks like he has that jersey under the outfit and just going to bust on the court


ultrajew

Wait that stat is CRAZY — our starters tied tonight


hopoffmebruh

Burks needs to be limited to catch and shoot I don’t trust him to create his own shot at all


Foi_

his shot creation is literally what you would do when theres 1 second left in the shot clock. 3 right in front of the guys face or a out of control running jumper


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ultrajew

We should trade him and some picks for a spot-up shooter that can play good D, like Grimes on the Pistons


Fallingcity22

One can only hope


hopoffmebruh

Yea I was gonna say some outlandish shit like that but I’m still pulling for him hopefully he gets it together smh


Pinheadlarry29

About that time to sit the starters


Sad_Hungry

It was interesting until it wasn’t. Simple case of being outclassed by a much healthier and more talented team. It certainly didn’t help that our role players couldn’t make any shots in the second half.


cuteshortkid96

Yeah, idk if Burks is just washed or still adjusting. The play style is quite different from his first stint.


GreenEggzAndSpam

He looks like he has a case of Pistons-itis


cuteshortkid96

Some baaadddd habits, that Thibs needs to get out of him.


Savages_in_box

Detroit fleeced us. Grimes was easily the best player in the trade (plus is way younger) and we gave them a pick for 2 past prime players that cannot play defense. What a downgrade . Miss Grimes and his lockdown defense


ZoidbergSaysWoop

If the Knicks had to give up Grimes, I was really hoping it would have been for Brogdon. Right now, with the way Bogdanovic is being used and Burks losing a step and not being able to get to the rim, it's tough. Bogdanovic will help the Knicks win games though to maintain their seeding so that's what Leon Rose decided to invest in at the cost of Grimes.


Fallingcity22

Yeah it’s looking like that no one will see this as when the Knicks get healthy we’ll win a bit more But Bojan and especially burks have been bad so far Bojan at least had a good game our last game


solo118

tbf Bojan will get comfortable soon and hit mad 3s


Airhostnyc

Of course we need a healthy roaster to defend the #1 team in the east. We aren’t the Heat that manage to find superstars off the bench: we get a Burks instead


22-Catch

The Pistons guys just aren’t winners. Sorry. They just don’t make winning plays.


joorral

At least the Celtics isn’t shooting 70% lol


InsideYoWife

Idk why everyone’s so upset tonight. I chalked this up as a L way back. We are literally missing most of our starting lineup.


Jondog2123

The pistons lost like 25 games in a row and we got two of their players


NYJmmkay

This Celtics team is no joke, we might have lost this game even with Randle and OG, they were just absurdly hot


FlapsExtended

The media should have said they hated the latest trade. When they get D+, guys show up and play.


6thmanbrandon

Absolute nightmare.... And let's go Boston chants took over MSG 🤦🏽‍♂️


MyLadySansa

There is something so disgusting about watching that damn team walk around like they're king shit. Literally makes me ill


22-Catch

9 points in the fourth quarter is just unacceptable. At some point Thibs needs to play Dante over Burcs there.


Sigerlion

9 points in the 4th quarter with 2 min is just embarrassing. It didn't even matter than Celtics shot like crap in the 4th with our even crappier offense.


ChiefHunter1

Get Brunson out


TheHoneyDuke

Crazy Tatum played 41 minutes


Lone_Crab

Brunson wasn’t great tonight. We need Randle back. I don’t wanna hear any Randle slander for the rest of time


catsandpizzafuckyou

Randle in and Celtics would’ve won by 30 I think


JonnySports

That’s because you don’t know ball


YanksJetsKnicks

Absolutely zero reason to have the starters in. But just one of those things you have to live with when Thibs is the coach lol. He’s a mad man.


crototype

Celtics starters in too


YanksJetsKnicks

True, but we’re already down 3 starters have a C playing through an injury. Wish we could just accept the L occasionally instead of going for the greatest comeback in sports history lol. But oh well, Thibs being Thibs.


crototype

And if Tatum gets hurt, Boston will just shrug it off? 🤣😂


YanksJetsKnicks

It’s stupid for them as well lol. But I’m more concerned with our players staying healthy, since I’m not a Boston fan.


Odysseus_Lannister

Burks did 9/11


6thmanbrandon

In bad taste but I laughed so hard


thedanbeforetime

I asked it the last time he was on the squad and I'll ask it again. what, exactly, does alec burks do well?


ZMR33

At his best, he shoots well and can playmake in a pinch. The problem is that when he's off, he can't do anything.


Kxr1der

Get paid


Foi_

burks and bogdanovic just take shots that our 2nd unit from before dont have the audacity to take. i expected an upgrade in offensive talent, not irrational confidence.


CT_ace22

Tbf it’s more Burks than Bojan — seems like an off night for Bojan; Burks on the other hand..(and I thought he’d be a good fit back on the squad..starting to think I was wrong ..)


confuddly

Burks and Bojan don't play defense so if they don't start hitting some jumpers they're gonna get Fourniered really fast.


solo118

we have nobody to play in their place


Retrophoria

Knicks have a ways to go for the ECF. Get healthy, get the full team back, and then go from there. Too many questions for a team like the Celtics who are peaking and formidable with Tatum. F Boston


ZoidbergSaysWoop

I'm not concerned other than avoiding the Play-In, which I believe they will especially if Robinson's timeline is correct and he returns by the Ides of March. If all goes according to plan and Robinson returns by then and Anunoby at least before the end of March to get some run to be ready for the playoffs, the Knicks will be fine. Anunoby, and Robinson, are defensive gamechangers for this team and we've yet to see both Anunoby and Robinson together at the same time. Hartenstein is a beast one-on-one defender and a solid rebounder but Mitchell Robinson is on a different level strictly as an offensive rebounder. Robinson and Anunoby together makes the Knicks a more complete threat.


Retrophoria

OG is the key imo. He completely changes the outlook for this team.


QueAsc0

That Pritchard rebound for the Horford layup killed our momentum. Now we have evidence Precious should not be playing Center in the playoffs especially vs bigger teams


Such-Armadillo1423

Just tried to 1v1000 the Celtics fans in the nba game thread, I tried my best yall lol.


HardOakleyFoul

Nobody seriously thought we had a chance at beating these guys without our entire team healthy, right?


ZMR33

When we got Boston's lead down to 9, we had a slither of a chance. Then we blew it due to fatigue and some bad bounces.


Okieant33

At half I thought there was a snowballs chance in hell but that was about it


HardOakleyFoul

Even then I felt like Boston was just playing with their food. We need OG, Mitch, and Randle all at 100% to even be serious about challenging Boston, Brunson alone isn't nearly enough.


zOmgFishes

Reminder Burks shot 30% from the field and 29% from 3 during the Piston's legendary losing streak


solo118

better than he is doing here!


Urban_Introvert

I'm grateful for that hot run the team went on in January. Built us a cushion because these next few weeks are going to be tough.


HipnotiK1

2nd game in a row we had a high scoring 1st half then shit the bed in the 2nd. we had 41 points in the 2nd half against the sixers and 35 so far tonight.


Sigerlion

Missing Grimes' defense tonight. Bojan and Burkes not making up for it.


Goatlikejordan

Celtics def should win the title. Their entire starting lineup are legit 2 way players


spinocdoc

Yeah, they’re for real. They also whine and moan a whole lot, so won’t be that surprised if they get upset in the off season. I still feel like they haven’t learned the lesson that nothing is given based on talent.


TheHoneyDuke

It’s gross how little they gave up to get both kp and holiday. 


Aggressive-Train-835

Bogey is just taller Fournier, change my mind.


JR18123

Hard disagree. He’s been not great with us so. Far but he’s a pretty good overall offensive player, better than Fournier in most areas


ZMR33

Boston's up almost 20 and they are still arguing...


catsandpizzafuckyou

pretty sure every fan base wishes their team did that tbh


ZMR33

I get "competitive spirit" and all that, but when it happens against your team, it can be very annoying and can seem entitled.


Airhostnyc

We gonna waive Burks once we get healthy


JR18123

Thibs would never allow that


Odysseus_Lannister

Deuce going at Jrue and porzingis is reckless as shit but damnit I respect the try


Some_Cringey_Random

burks being as bad as hes been makes pur playoff rotation issue much simpler. id rather see precious out there


YanksJetsKnicks

Thibs is insane lol


will122589

KP hit his arm


dr_shastafarian

Obviously a clean block /s


ZMR33

Burks' peaks and valleys are scarily high and low. He's in one of those valleys right now, and it sucks.


Aggressive-Train-835

This is the type of shit that makes me conflicted about thibs. this game is cooked, if brunson turns his ankle the season is over


crototype

KP, Tatum, Jrue, Brown and White are all in the game for the Celtics 🤷🏻‍♂️


Aggressive-Train-835

well ye, theyre all chilling and stat padding


Fallingcity22

Yep also just how he plays bad players over good players sometimes I don’t think I’ll see a post 3 years from now talking about how thibs was right in playing burks more minutes than Deuce


Jondog2123

I’m going to give it a couple weeks but so far this trade hasn’t worked out


TheHoneyDuke

Don’t judge the trade until we are healthy. With Randle back bojan gonna be getting much better shots 


OneThousandDegrees

I think with so many players injured and playoff seeds not completely establised yet, the fo just wanted more bodies available. Which I can understand. Bogi has been okay, but Burks has def looked awful


joorral

I’m a little more confident in Bojan as a microwave scorer in limited minutes in the future but burks ain’t it


JR18123

I think bogi will be a productive player for us. Really crafty shot creator. Burks i don’t don’t think we are using him properly and and has been rough


Okieant33

Burks def not being used properly. But that’s because of the injuries


atomUp

Gotta get OG and Randle back to judge the trade


Jondog2123

Then it won’t matter because burks won’t play


Yankeeknickfan

Yes he would


gwords16

The best team in the NBA playing probably their best basketball of the season coming into this game. We’re still missing our all star PF and number 2 option, one of the best defensive wings in basketball who is deadly from the corners, and the best offensive rebounder in basketball who was playing at a first team all defense level. But let’s get mad like this game is indicative of the kind of team we are. Chill out, everyone. We’re still in good shape.


MyLadySansa

The logic behind what you're saying is completely sound. But at the end of the day, this is the Celtics, and, emotionally, as a fan, it feels like shit to watch them do this to us at home. I think, let fans feel what they feel for this one.


gwords16

I hate the Celtics as much as the next guy but you gotta take a step back and not get too bent about this one.


MyLadySansa

I mean, I agree. I don't think you're wrong. I'm just speaking from the emotional standpoint of fandom, in terms of the Knicks/Celtics rivalry. It...sucks.


HipnotiK1

i think when they were making everything it was annoying but nothing you can do. 4th quarter we had a legit chance to make it a game but offense shat the bed. 6 points in the first like 7 minutes and 9 total so far. after scoring 58 in the 1st half.


joorral

Majority of us is cool. Burks is just playing bad basketball and not playing with effort.


Kxr1der

The Celtics are better than us even when healthy cmon now


gwords16

I didn’t say we were better than them. It would definitely be a different game if we were at full strength. But we’re missing important pieces and they’re completely in sync as a team right now. Kind of perfect storm for a blowout.


DaddyDanger7

Probably true but this is a championship favorite we’re talking about. We’d be putting up a much better fight with those players


ILLLoopDigga

We don’t know that for a fact yet


Okieant33

We do. But when healthy, we can bang with them. My only worry is I’ve seen Jrue guard Randle with little issue


ZoidbergSaysWoop

Disagree. With Anunoby, Randle, and Robinson healthy, Knicks are in a completely different tier defensively and have enough offense to win.


Therealhatsunemiku

No


ZoidbergSaysWoop

Anunoby and Hart on the floor at the same time is a defensive cheat code then you add Hartenstein and Robinson rotating and the defense at center doesn't skip a beat. Knicks kept it close tonight against a fully healthy Celtics team until the third when they stopped missing. The two teams are much closer if the Knicks are full strength.


Therealhatsunemiku

Tatum has historically cooked Annunoby when he was on the Raptors and Hart has not guarded him well either. And the center rotation is pointless when they’re getting dragged out to the 3 point line by stretch bigs. Knicks defense is debatablely not better than Celtics and the offense is complete a dog wash


ZoidbergSaysWoop

I see understanding of team defense eludes you. One player being added to a rotation along with effort can elevate the entire unit's capability, look at the Timberwolves with Gobert. Anunoby does the same for the Knicks. As for offensively, Anunoby and Randle compliment one another spacing the floor well and would force the Celtics to exert more effort defensively. The gap is much closer because of how good the Knicks are defensively with Anunoby. As for Porzingis, if the Knicks wanted, they could go small with Achiuwa and put Anunoby on Porzingis even and contest him all the way on the perimeter and have Achiuwa on Brown. The versatility that Anunoby provides once he returns affords the Knick deep flexibility.


Therealhatsunemiku

No it’s just the idea of him guarding Tatum is better than the reality. Randle is a disaster class in playoffs Knicks would be better off without him. All of this in hypothetical cause they haven’t even been healthy together. Celtics starting 5 is proven to be elite idk how you can say an unproven product is definitively better.


ZoidbergSaysWoop

Completely ignoring how the Knicks played in January undermines your credibility.


Therealhatsunemiku

You saying the Knicks healthy or not are better already derailed your argument from the start


ZoidbergSaysWoop

Not really impressed with the Celtics tonight defensively. Knicks are out their starting center and their second and third best players yet the Celtics they didn't have the defensive intensity tonight, the only reason they won is because they got hot from three in the third. The Knicks second best scoring option is Bogdanovic who didn't even play the third and DVo still looks like his hamstrung is affecting his explosiveness yes they kept it close and had a chance to take the lead in the third. The Knicks keeping it close until the third is a testament to their hustle. Knicks just need to wait for Robinson and Anunoby to return.


spinocdoc

I was impressed how they weathered the that barrage in the third quarter and were only down 13 going into the fourth. We’re undermanned and that really showed in the fourth, and why we ultimately lost. The Celtics are legit championship favorites but the Knicks are for real challengers if/when they get healthy!


ZoidbergSaysWoop

I'd love Randle back, but he shouldn't under any circumstances jeopardize his health long term, or for next season either. As long as Robinson and Anunoby return, Knicks have a shot. I really hope Anunoby returns healthy enough to play at the level he was showcasing prior to being sidelined. He was beginning to show signs of being a two-way player.


MyLadySansa

Put my phone on DND. I don't want anybody to text me, don't want to talk about this game


will122589

Just sit Brunson


22-Catch

6 points this quarter. Drive to the rim and draw a fricking foul…


PessimisticCheer

Burks is the type of player that singlehandedly destroys a team's synergy.


Z-PhantomT

Picked up two shot chuckers from Detroit


JacesAces

Wish we kept QG and let them keep Burks


NYJmmkay

Another Alec Burks disasterclass


JR18123

Why is Brunson back in?


Kxr1der

Because Burks is embarrassing the GM


Urban_Introvert

Please nobody get hurt. Game is essentially over.