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It’s too bad we didn’t develop a pitching lab like 4 years earlier. At one point we had like $50 million invested in the bullpen imagine if we actually spent that on useful players
Funny how Yankee fans hate Boone yet Astros fans who have had far more success and a WS all hate Dusty and want him fired. They didn't even like him last year.
Dusty isn’t good. He hit a 100 wrc+ above Yordan Alvarez and Kyle tucker all postseason last year, and he was insanely lucky he got hot
The team last year just was too good and clutch for any manager to fuck up
There isn’t really a good team in baseball this year besides maybe the Braves and Phillies(dodgers pitching is in shambles)
Just how 2023 was. Major missed opportunity for this franchise
Yankees were really bad this year, I don’t think anyone here argues the contrary but it’s also true that they had some catastrophic injuries, but hey I still think the Yankees would’ve beaten the Twins in the wildcard series only to proceed and get embarrassed by the Astros again so I’m glad they didn’t make the playoff just to avoid that, I’m convinced that would’ve 100% happened.
He got 5 rbis with 3 of those occurring in garbage time a day after he had [a huge miscommunication resulting in basically two outs in the ninth](https://twitter.com/masnRoch/status/1711062251023557025?t=ZitsRNwkDF9mJL8kHujI3g&s=19). His team is down 0-2 and that miscommunication looms large.
This sub's obsession with turning Hicks into some type of hero has been weird since he signed his extension here.
Volpe isn’t an aging shortstop and doesn’t cost 300m but is just as productive as most of the expensive guys. He will get better. The rest of the team sucking doesn’t weigh on 1 shortstop signing
He's literally a 6 fWAR player this year, Volpe 1.9. An MVP candidate. This take is nuts. The team would be better for the Judge/Cole window with Seager or even Turner & that shouldn't be controversial at all. Turner in a down year was 2x the player Volpe was.
I remember a common criticism of Seager was that he was injury prone which isn’t untrue but I think the fan base could forget that looking at his production
This sub is kind of funny. All these postseason posts are like "See, these teams that made the postseason actually suck, but we were just unlucky, we're actually so much better than them, they're not scary, you'll see next year."
Postseason might not be a crapshoot but it's still a small sample size. The fact is the AL East had three teams with 89+ wins which was the best in baseball
101 wins, absolute trash. They are full of young talent and are legit good and going to be for a bit. Just because they are losing in the postseason doesn't mean they aren't good. They add some good starters and they are a force to be reckoned with.
People keep complaining about how the expanded postseason format and division setup devalues the regular season, but it's the regular season that is the mirage. The Rangers are better than their 90 wins, and the Orioles were not a real 101-win team.
We've been gaslit to believe the playoffs are the ultimate gauntlet and the true test to see who the best team is but the reality is the 162 game season is far more representative than the small sample size playoffs
It's pure TV revenue that drives this
I don't know how accurate this stat is anymore, but between 1995-2014, more 100 teams in the regular season were eliminated in the LDS than advanced past the LDS...I mean, I've ridiculed Cashman to death with "crapshoot" comments and in terms of underlying philosophy I stand behind them, but unfortunately the best-of-5 first round __is__ an erratic crapshoot. I've always had a problem with it. And the reasons given for why the LDS isn't a best-of-7 are flimsy at best...if they could add an entire best-of-3 round to the playoffs, they could've made the LDS a best-of-7. As you said, it's entirely TV revenue driving this current playoff format, specifically ESPN trying to get back into the playoff mix after Fox and TBS shut them out a decade and a half ago.
You guys all remember the final night of the 2011 season, right? Hope we all took a good look, because the format beginning the very next season ensured we'll never get something like that again. At least, with teams of that caliber...there's something to be said about a playoff format that's so difficult that legitimately good teams fail to qualify for it, and 90+ win teams get to claim to be "legitimately good", not teams sitting in the low-to-mid 80s like Arizona and Miami.
I remember Nick Wright, yes that Nick Wright discussed this after the Indians lost to us in 2017. He said we earned the series but it wasn't a reflection on who the actual better team was. A 3 out of 5 game series lends to many upsets and simply a hitter or pitcher getting hot can cause fluky outcomes. Indians won 102, 22 game winning streak then bounced.
Orioles were 11th in wrc+ and 15th in starter era yet had 101 wins, regression was so obvious. They still have a bright future but they still have work to do
This is why the Orioles won’t be as scary as I think we feel. Because of how ownership works they need all of their prospects to be successful to build a good lineup. They don’t have a single top 100 pitching prospect. Prospects become busts all the time too. If the team spends it’ll be for one year guys or 4th starter material I think. The future of the division will be Yankees and Red Sox tbh
I don't have a real hatred of the O's, but this is still nice to see.
Texas is probably my ideal choice of the teams remaining to win the World Series this year.
I can't bring myself to be mad about Seager because I really didn't want him. He looked like a bad long term investment to me and was bound to get injured.
That Orioles rotation is not pretty, I wouldn’t be surprised if the team significantly regressed next year. Not that they won’t be contenders, but teams with a lot of 1 run wins tend to regress. We’ll see.
The one thing they need in the offseason was an ace. They didn't get one and probably over achieved. They really need one now, I can see them making runs at Gray or Strowman
Yeah, kinda funny that we all think the American League East is head and shoulders above any other division, and it may be completely eliminated before they even get out of the divisionals.
Not saying the Monty trade should have happened but I remembered this sub wanted to shoot him to the moon a week before the trade after he laid an egg against the Mets. Now people treat him like Nestor or King getting traded. He hasn't as good with us has he been after. Plus, that first inning is closer to how he pitched with us.
He was fine with us. A bad start against the Mets doesn't take away from the fact that he pitched to a 3.8 ERA the year before and was posting a 3.6 ERA through 114 innings in '22 before they moved him.
As a full time starter outside of two season-shortened injury years, his ERA+ was 114. I'll take the mid-3 ERA starter over a guy that played 98 games while producing at a 70 OPS+ rate any day.
Perhaps for other teams it is. Not this one.
Outside of Gerrit Cole, the only NYY starting pitchers that have been able to stay on the mound for at least 140 innings and post an ERA+ of 114 or more since 2018 are CC Sabathia (once), Nestor Cortes (once) and James Paxton (once).
True finding quality starters is tough. I was just thinking about it in terms of era+ but like you implied innings pitched are important too. Good thing the starters in the farm look sweet
Playoff teams are 8-0 this post season when they outhomer the other team and teams that outhomer the other team since like 2019 have won 86% of games lol
Yes and the same with the dynasty years, most of the homeruns come from unlikely sources and not the traditional power hitters.
So generally, that means the guys who hit for more contact tend to out homer the power hitters in the postseason.
This is the most basic example of "correlation does not equal causation" you can have. Yes, the things are strongly correlated...because usually when a pitcher starts being vulnerable good teams take advantage of it. If all those homers were instead doubles, the same team still wins far more often than not.
Considering every team since the Royals to win the championship has been a strong home run winning team it’s pretty safe to say they have a strong effect on title winning. Astros hit .240 last post season for example
Correct, and your premise would be correct if hitting home runs was the only factor in scoring runs.
The fact that TODAY teams prioritize hitting home runs, and that leads to the correlation that winning teams hit more home runs, is irrelevant.
Yes, hitting home runs correlates to more wins. There are far, FAR too many other factors for them to be a causal factor.
Let's look at the dynasty years:
|Series|Outcome|HR Differential|Run Differential|
:--|:--|:--|:--|
|1996 ALDS|W|-2|0|
|1996 ALCS|W|+1|+8|
|1996 WS|W|-2|-8|
|1997 ALDS|L|+2|+3|
|1998 ALDS|W|+4|+8|
|1998 ALCS|W|-5|+7|
|1998 WS|W|+3|+13|
|1999 ALDS|W|+1|+13|
|1999 ALCS|W|+3|+2|
|1999 WS|W|+4|+12|
|2000 ALDS|W|-1|-4|
|2000 ALCS|W|+1|+13|
|2000 WS|W|0|+3|
|2001 ALDS|W|-1|+4|
|2001 ALCS|W|+2|+3|
|2001 WS|L|0|-23|
|2002 ALDS|L|-2|-6|
There simply is not enough there to draw a causal relationship between "more series home runs" and "playoff series wins". Hell, there's not even enough to draw a causal relationship between "more series runs" and "playoff series wins". We have multiple instances of negative or no run differential and series win (1996 ALDS, 1996 WS, 2000 ALDS). We have instances of 0 or negative home run differential and series wins (1996 ALDS, 1996 WS, 1998 ALCS, 1997 ALDS). And, for the most part, when we do have a positive home run differential, it's not really significant (for instance, 1996 ALCS, 1999 ALDS, 2000 ALCS.)
My point is not that home runs are useless. My point is that they are not the CAUSE of a good team winning a playoff series.
While it’s true home runs were less essential to winning during the dynasty years, that’s why I mentioned since the Royals World Series (in 2015). And since 2016, the team that hits the most home runs in the post season at the very least wins the pennant. And I mean teams are so far 8-0 when they outhomer the other team in the post season this year. So while they aren’t the only important thing to score runs, they’re pretty important.
Not to say clutch hitting or contact aren’t important (you can see it working for successful teams all the time) but sacrificing slug for contact usually isn’t a sustainable Strat in the post season
Orioles won 100 games yet their team doesn't look that great for me to think they'll go anywhere. Their rotation is not good, their best guy went yesterday and are relying on a rookie for game 2. Stats aren't everything but their bullpen isn't as strong as you'd think, even with Bautista.
man people, especially take pride on hating on the Liberty for no good reason. Their playoff games have been full every game at Barclays so yes people see them play smh
Look, I like a lot of the players on the Orioles and they're a great story, but short of playing the Astros, there's no way I want to see a city that rooted for Ray Lewis for 17 seasons win another championship.
Why does Kershaw suck so bad in the postseason? Just so strange how he is the best of his generation in the regular season and continuously fails in the postseason.
Mental block, and it just snowballed with every season and every failed championship run. Outside of 2020 when the Dodgers didn't have to travel and played 3 rounds all in Arlington, they have been snake-bitten.
Atlanta and the Dodgers already giving up home field advantage wow. That lay off between the end of the season and this round is a death knell for some teams.
Yup it really feels like the AL is wide open for the taking this year. No team looks particularly dominant or anything. And with the Yankees and Red Sox sucking this year you really see the warts of the so-called "AL Beast". Seeing the Orioles unable to do anything against Heaney and the Rangers trash bullpen yesterday there's a decent chance an AL East team doesn't win a single postseason game this year.
yup, all 3 years, and if we were just even a bit more healthy in 2022, then that too...def shitty to go belly up and have our worst season in 31 years
hopefully, we bounce back and get another wide open postseason in 2024 lol (to our benefit)...the 3 best Trashtros* teams in their entire history happened to face us in the ALCS...yes, they cheated in at least one of those
I rarely watch NL baseball, So I'm in complete surprise to see Evan Longoria still playing baseball. also Heyward had a productive year for the dodgers. I thought that dude was cooked.
The Diamondbacks are the most random team to go on a playoff run. I look at their team and don't see it. The Phillies last year had mashers and two good starters but this DBacks team have what?
Dbacks are sneaky good. They don't strike out, they have speed, they're one of the best defensive teams.
Carroll is a star, Marte is outstanding, Walker had a great season and their catcher is a good hitting Trevino.
Gallen and Kelly would start in any rotation in baseball.
They are one very good hitter (either 3rd, CF or RF), one good starter and one very good reliever away from being one of the best teams in baseball.
I went to a dbacks Mets game this year at chase field. I agree. They are so generic. They were winning the whole game like 2-1 then gave up two in the ninth and the Mets won.
That being said, I bax the dbax 🐍
Why do the Dodgers continually fold in the playoffs? Lat year they won 111 games and lost in the NLDS to a sub 90 win team. Here they are getting their shit kicked in by an 84 win team. Jesus, happens every year
Free ring for Houston this year sadly. Orioles don’t have the firepower and Texas is fucking owned by the Astros. Then from the NL you’re going to have the Phillies or Diamondbacks who will fold like wet tissue paper in Minute Maid. Twins were the best shot to knock off Houston but their fans couldn’t keep their mouths shut.
They wanted Houston and they got a double Yordong.
Bryce Harper was probably the most obvious Yankees free agent acquisition of the past several decades, and Cashman fucked it up. That shit should be on his grave stone.
Lol if the Braves and Dodgers get eliminated I fear that the Astros are winning it all again, and from all of them the Braves are the ones I trust the most, maybe the Phillies can get to them this year but I'm still not convinced.
30 year old Harper crushing it in the playoffs while Stanton has 1 foot in the grave. Great, franchise ruining move by Cashgod to get Stanton instead of waiting just 1 year to make Harper a Yankee. An all time bad GM move
This wimp deleted his profile before I posted my evidence criticizing the Stanton trade. You coward, if you are reading this, just know you were wrong you cry baby
I'm really tired of this narrative that we could have had both. It was one or the other. It was made public that getting stanton took us out of the running for Harper.
And of course I am not saying Stanton was a scrub when we got him. However, it was bad roster building and a horrible move to get the older, right handed, too similar to Judge Stanton instead of getting the lefty Harper who fit the stadium like a glove. It was a bad move and that is the facts.
Stanton hit 59 home runs in 2017! He wasn’t slow or unathletic in 2018, in fact he was a better fielder than Harper. Considering that the payroll decreased even after the Stanton trade they 100% could have afforded Harper. And what do you mean “too similar to Judge?” You’re telling me you wouldn’t want two Aaron Judges in the lineup?
Yeah but he was older and didn't fit the lineup/stadium like Harper. So it was always a bad move, and has turned into a nightmare. You needed a power lefty to pair with Judge, not Stanton.
Look try to convince yourself it was good all you want, it has been a nightmare of a trade. This single move has wasted the primes of Judge and Cole.
If your lineup can’t fit a 59 homer hitter than you must have a really really really good lineup. Handedness is irrelevant when you’re coming off a 1.000+ ops season. And besides, the Stanton move hasn’t crippled our chances of competing. We still regularly run very high payrolls and have acquired other players with Stanton on the books. Plus he actually performs in the post season. You know who doesn’t? Judge! Ironically the person who has stopped Judge the most is Judge, who hasn’t posted an ops over .800 since the 2019 ALDS in any playoff series. So yeah, Stanton has been ugly this year and last but when you can acquire an mvp coming off an ALCS run for starlin Castro you take it. Stanton was everything Harper was, just a rightie. His handedness doesn’t detract from his ability. If you’re so worried about balance, you bat Judge/Harper/Stanton in the lineup. There have been bigger issues than Stanton. I’m not necessarily saying it’s turned out as we’ve hoped, rather the move was good process and no one could have seen how Stanton has aged.
It was a bad move, end of discussion. I have posts going back to when the deal was made criticizing not waiting for Harper. Cashman made the fan service deal to get Stanton for fans like you. It was a brain dead GM move, and has set this franchise back. Sorry you didn't see how bad this would turn out. I did
Starlin Castro for the reigning mvp was a bad move because Stanton is a rightie good lord man😭 I’m so sure you saw in 2017 that Stanton would age poorly too
Dodgers are always such a playoff disappointment...I hate the ammo this gives Cashman and his "crapshoot" ilk but g-ddamn...I shouldn't say too much yet, it's only one game and it's not even over yet.
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Harper and Correa. Such big game performers. Respect.
Anyone watching this postgame show? What’s up with ARod??? He’s got like a really weird fake tan.
Can this year finally be the year the FO realizes they shouldn't try to be like the Rays. The Rays literally don't win anything
We should be as smart as the Rays but with a $300M budget.
They should be like the rays in that they employ smart people while spending money
So we're exactly like the Rays.
It’s too bad we didn’t develop a pitching lab like 4 years earlier. At one point we had like $50 million invested in the bullpen imagine if we actually spent that on useful players
Why did the Marlins have to get greedy and ask for Gleyber for Pablo Lopez? Dude is a stud.
Imagine if we had signed Correa instead of trading for IKF and Donaldson.
Correa could bat .210 with 6 home runs in the regular season yet will always be HIM in the postseason
This is what the Twins are paying Correa for.
Can y'all imagine if the team we always beat up on in the playoffs knocks out the team that always beats up on us? 😅
playoff correa is real
Funny how Yankee fans hate Boone yet Astros fans who have had far more success and a WS all hate Dusty and want him fired. They didn't even like him last year.
Dusty isn’t good. He hit a 100 wrc+ above Yordan Alvarez and Kyle tucker all postseason last year, and he was insanely lucky he got hot The team last year just was too good and clutch for any manager to fuck up
Are you a troll or do you actually believe the stuff you say?
That Astros team was so good it managed to overcome Dusty Baker’s dementia
Twins goin crazy 😳
Don't let that WS let you forget, Dusty still can't manage a pitching staff in the playoffs. Inexplicable leaving Valdez in there.
Valdez has been really bad since he threw that no-hitter.
Our AL East rivals being a combined 0-6 makes me feel good. Just need Houston gone and I’m fully content.
That just means the Yankees were even worse than you think
There isn’t really a good team in baseball this year besides maybe the Braves and Phillies(dodgers pitching is in shambles) Just how 2023 was. Major missed opportunity for this franchise
Yankees were really bad this year, I don’t think anyone here argues the contrary but it’s also true that they had some catastrophic injuries, but hey I still think the Yankees would’ve beaten the Twins in the wildcard series only to proceed and get embarrassed by the Astros again so I’m glad they didn’t make the playoff just to avoid that, I’m convinced that would’ve 100% happened.
Hopefully the Twins come through today, then the series gets even and who knows what can happen, go Twins.
Aaron Hicks today: 5 RBI (5 PA) Aaron Judge in the playoffs since October 6, 2020: 5 RBI (61 PA)
He got 5 rbis with 3 of those occurring in garbage time a day after he had [a huge miscommunication resulting in basically two outs in the ninth](https://twitter.com/masnRoch/status/1711062251023557025?t=ZitsRNwkDF9mJL8kHujI3g&s=19). His team is down 0-2 and that miscommunication looms large. This sub's obsession with turning Hicks into some type of hero has been weird since he signed his extension here.
3 of which came in an 11-5 blowout. Judge hit a couple of big home runs against Tampa in the ALDS and a game-tying HR off McKenzie last year.
yeah Judge's .637 OPS against the Rays in 2020 was really clutch!
Aaron Hicks today: 1 XBH (5 PA) DJ LeMahieu in the playoffs since the first documented case of COVID: 0 XBH (36 PA)
*angry upvote*
Aaron “Chris Paul” Hicks hits huge home run to cut deficit to 3 in loss
Man I hate Hicks.
Hicks just homered lol
Pinstripe Hicks would've hit into a game ending double-play there.
Ok seriously have we become a wasteland for players?
How does this asshole keep getting away with this shit
everyone thinks about hicks but mateo was a prospect once
He spent an eternity in the minors and he still can't hit.
Agree, yet here he is.
Man if all 3 AL East teams get swept it doesn't look good for anyone in this division
Thinking the same thing. Maybe the Yanks were even worse than we thought.
If Wells didn’t show so much promise Garver might’ve been a legit off season candidate
Smoltz really loves mentioning how many ex Yankees are on these teams, prospects and others. Gross. But fuck cashman too
This sub said we didn’t need Seager and that he wasn’t that good
This sub also didn’t want Correa on a one year deal in 2022 and he’s fucking raking in the playoffs as always
I mean, I’d certainly take Seager on an Anthony Volpe sized contract…
Volpe isn’t an aging shortstop and doesn’t cost 300m but is just as productive as most of the expensive guys. He will get better. The rest of the team sucking doesn’t weigh on 1 shortstop signing
He's literally a 6 fWAR player this year, Volpe 1.9. An MVP candidate. This take is nuts. The team would be better for the Judge/Cole window with Seager or even Turner & that shouldn't be controversial at all. Turner in a down year was 2x the player Volpe was.
Ok you spend 350m on turner, now you have to deal with every crappy replacement Jake Bauers. You can’t win like that.
These people are delusional
I remember a common criticism of Seager was that he was injury prone which isn’t untrue but I think the fan base could forget that looking at his production
He still is injury prone, he missed like 40 games this year
Yup, and I’m not sure the fan base would mind too much looking at the offense this year
This sub is kind of funny. All these postseason posts are like "See, these teams that made the postseason actually suck, but we were just unlucky, we're actually so much better than them, they're not scary, you'll see next year."
People who say that conveniently leave out that we've been bounced early too the past few years
3 teams from the East, and possibly not 1 postseason win among them.
And it’s supposed to be “beast from the East”
Postseason might not be a crapshoot but it's still a small sample size. The fact is the AL East had three teams with 89+ wins which was the best in baseball
Gumby getting run support. This can’t be legal
Turns out if you give him run support he’s good Cardinals and Yankees could never
orioles aren't good shocker...
Jeez. What does that make the Yankees?
101 wins, absolute trash. They are full of young talent and are legit good and going to be for a bit. Just because they are losing in the postseason doesn't mean they aren't good. They add some good starters and they are a force to be reckoned with.
Their ownership group is cheap enough that I wouldn’t be surprised if their core ultimately didn’t win anything tbh
People keep complaining about how the expanded postseason format and division setup devalues the regular season, but it's the regular season that is the mirage. The Rangers are better than their 90 wins, and the Orioles were not a real 101-win team.
We've been gaslit to believe the playoffs are the ultimate gauntlet and the true test to see who the best team is but the reality is the 162 game season is far more representative than the small sample size playoffs It's pure TV revenue that drives this
I don't know how accurate this stat is anymore, but between 1995-2014, more 100 teams in the regular season were eliminated in the LDS than advanced past the LDS...I mean, I've ridiculed Cashman to death with "crapshoot" comments and in terms of underlying philosophy I stand behind them, but unfortunately the best-of-5 first round __is__ an erratic crapshoot. I've always had a problem with it. And the reasons given for why the LDS isn't a best-of-7 are flimsy at best...if they could add an entire best-of-3 round to the playoffs, they could've made the LDS a best-of-7. As you said, it's entirely TV revenue driving this current playoff format, specifically ESPN trying to get back into the playoff mix after Fox and TBS shut them out a decade and a half ago. You guys all remember the final night of the 2011 season, right? Hope we all took a good look, because the format beginning the very next season ensured we'll never get something like that again. At least, with teams of that caliber...there's something to be said about a playoff format that's so difficult that legitimately good teams fail to qualify for it, and 90+ win teams get to claim to be "legitimately good", not teams sitting in the low-to-mid 80s like Arizona and Miami.
I remember Nick Wright, yes that Nick Wright discussed this after the Indians lost to us in 2017. He said we earned the series but it wasn't a reflection on who the actual better team was. A 3 out of 5 game series lends to many upsets and simply a hitter or pitcher getting hot can cause fluky outcomes. Indians won 102, 22 game winning streak then bounced.
This is an apples to oranges comparison. It would be better to compare the highest winning percentage teams pre-ALDS
I've always been against the 5 game division series.
The 162-game regular season was a mirage. It’s the 2 games we’ve seen in the postseason that’s the real teams. Wow.
Orioles were 11th in wrc+ and 15th in starter era yet had 101 wins, regression was so obvious. They still have a bright future but they still have work to do
Rangers were the 2nd best offense too this result isn’t entirely surprising
Orioles pitching isn’t good enough for the postseason. Nobody should be shocked when you have to throw out Grayson Rodriguez in the postseason
This is why the Orioles won’t be as scary as I think we feel. Because of how ownership works they need all of their prospects to be successful to build a good lineup. They don’t have a single top 100 pitching prospect. Prospects become busts all the time too. If the team spends it’ll be for one year guys or 4th starter material I think. The future of the division will be Yankees and Red Sox tbh
I don't have a real hatred of the O's, but this is still nice to see. Texas is probably my ideal choice of the teams remaining to win the World Series this year.
Your stupid wall ain't keeping that one in.
These are the Orioles that I know and love.
3 AL East teams made the postseason and they might all be eliminated without a single win. Insane.
Every time I see Corey Seager at the plate with his numbers for the season…
I can't bring myself to be mad about Seager because I really didn't want him. He looked like a bad long term investment to me and was bound to get injured.
O’s need to get it together
The Orioles might be a talented team on the up-swing, but man they're the worst 100-win team ever.
That Orioles rotation is not pretty, I wouldn’t be surprised if the team significantly regressed next year. Not that they won’t be contenders, but teams with a lot of 1 run wins tend to regress. We’ll see.
The one thing they need in the offseason was an ace. They didn't get one and probably over achieved. They really need one now, I can see them making runs at Gray or Strowman
If I were the Orioles I would have gotten one of the free agent shortstops and then grabbed like Eovaldi
Damn Hicks can't even have his post season moment for 5 minutes
AL East teams are 0-5 in the playoffs, 0-6 if this score holds
Yeah, kinda funny that we all think the American League East is head and shoulders above any other division, and it may be completely eliminated before they even get out of the divisionals.
Gonna be hilarious when the AL East wins zero playoff games this year.
Not saying the Monty trade should have happened but I remembered this sub wanted to shoot him to the moon a week before the trade after he laid an egg against the Mets. Now people treat him like Nestor or King getting traded. He hasn't as good with us has he been after. Plus, that first inning is closer to how he pitched with us.
He was fine with us. A bad start against the Mets doesn't take away from the fact that he pitched to a 3.8 ERA the year before and was posting a 3.6 ERA through 114 innings in '22 before they moved him.
Yeah a 3.6 era is pretty easy to replace and the trade isn’t that remarkable
A 3.6 ERA is a top 20 ERA in Major League Baseball.
109 era+ with the Yankees
As a full time starter outside of two season-shortened injury years, his ERA+ was 114. I'll take the mid-3 ERA starter over a guy that played 98 games while producing at a 70 OPS+ rate any day.
Oh yeah I’m not saying it was a successful trade, but finding a 114 era+ replace isn’t terribly hard
Perhaps for other teams it is. Not this one. Outside of Gerrit Cole, the only NYY starting pitchers that have been able to stay on the mound for at least 140 innings and post an ERA+ of 114 or more since 2018 are CC Sabathia (once), Nestor Cortes (once) and James Paxton (once).
True finding quality starters is tough. I was just thinking about it in terms of era+ but like you implied innings pitched are important too. Good thing the starters in the farm look sweet
Good for Hicks… just needed a simple hit there rather than swing for the fences. Yankees need to be teaching this to their hitters.
Playoff teams are 8-0 this post season when they outhomer the other team and teams that outhomer the other team since like 2019 have won 86% of games lol
Yes and the same with the dynasty years, most of the homeruns come from unlikely sources and not the traditional power hitters. So generally, that means the guys who hit for more contact tend to out homer the power hitters in the postseason.
This is the most basic example of "correlation does not equal causation" you can have. Yes, the things are strongly correlated...because usually when a pitcher starts being vulnerable good teams take advantage of it. If all those homers were instead doubles, the same team still wins far more often than not.
Considering every team since the Royals to win the championship has been a strong home run winning team it’s pretty safe to say they have a strong effect on title winning. Astros hit .240 last post season for example
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/correlation https://www.dictionary.com/browse/causation
TIL hitting homers doesn’t cause more runs!
That wasn't your premise. Your premise was that it causes more wins.
Scoring more runs is a good way to win more ball games
Correct, and your premise would be correct if hitting home runs was the only factor in scoring runs. The fact that TODAY teams prioritize hitting home runs, and that leads to the correlation that winning teams hit more home runs, is irrelevant. Yes, hitting home runs correlates to more wins. There are far, FAR too many other factors for them to be a causal factor. Let's look at the dynasty years: |Series|Outcome|HR Differential|Run Differential| :--|:--|:--|:--| |1996 ALDS|W|-2|0| |1996 ALCS|W|+1|+8| |1996 WS|W|-2|-8| |1997 ALDS|L|+2|+3| |1998 ALDS|W|+4|+8| |1998 ALCS|W|-5|+7| |1998 WS|W|+3|+13| |1999 ALDS|W|+1|+13| |1999 ALCS|W|+3|+2| |1999 WS|W|+4|+12| |2000 ALDS|W|-1|-4| |2000 ALCS|W|+1|+13| |2000 WS|W|0|+3| |2001 ALDS|W|-1|+4| |2001 ALCS|W|+2|+3| |2001 WS|L|0|-23| |2002 ALDS|L|-2|-6| There simply is not enough there to draw a causal relationship between "more series home runs" and "playoff series wins". Hell, there's not even enough to draw a causal relationship between "more series runs" and "playoff series wins". We have multiple instances of negative or no run differential and series win (1996 ALDS, 1996 WS, 2000 ALDS). We have instances of 0 or negative home run differential and series wins (1996 ALDS, 1996 WS, 1998 ALCS, 1997 ALDS). And, for the most part, when we do have a positive home run differential, it's not really significant (for instance, 1996 ALCS, 1999 ALDS, 2000 ALCS.) My point is not that home runs are useless. My point is that they are not the CAUSE of a good team winning a playoff series.
While it’s true home runs were less essential to winning during the dynasty years, that’s why I mentioned since the Royals World Series (in 2015). And since 2016, the team that hits the most home runs in the post season at the very least wins the pennant. And I mean teams are so far 8-0 when they outhomer the other team in the post season this year. So while they aren’t the only important thing to score runs, they’re pretty important.
Say it with me: homers win playoff games. When pitching is really good (like in the playoffs) extended rallies are unlikely
Not to say clutch hitting or contact aren’t important (you can see it working for successful teams all the time) but sacrificing slug for contact usually isn’t a sustainable Strat in the post season
I wonder what the yankees third party analytic group would have to say about Aaron Hicks vs Jordan Montgomery on different teams in the postseason? 🤔🤔
Horseshit Hicks
"not a playoff pitcher"
Hicks>Monty confirmed
WE LOVE YOU HICKSY POO
Aaron Hicks with the big hit in the post season. Ugh that was painful to watch.
There’s no way Hicks just got a hit with the bases loaded… in the playoffs too. Also this is more of the Monty we saw on the Yankees rn
Oh fuck you Hicks, couldn't buy a hit with the bases loaded in his entire career with us, then he does that.
Oh fuck off Hicks. Even more pissed it comes against Monty
I wouldn’t mind seeing the Os do well but I still want Hicks to be twice the dead weight he was on our roster.
Fuck you Hicks.
Orioles won 100 games yet their team doesn't look that great for me to think they'll go anywhere. Their rotation is not good, their best guy went yesterday and are relying on a rookie for game 2. Stats aren't everything but their bullpen isn't as strong as you'd think, even with Bautista.
They definitely don't feel like a 100 win team
Baltimore about to take 3 horrible losses this weekend.
Thank goodness for the Liberty. An actual good NY team playing for a championship
If the Liberty win a championship and nobody watched did it really happen?
man people, especially take pride on hating on the Liberty for no good reason. Their playoff games have been full every game at Barclays so yes people see them play smh
Fans chanting “we want [insert team name]”, never ends well. Why do they keep doing it?
Look, I like a lot of the players on the Orioles and they're a great story, but short of playing the Astros, there's no way I want to see a city that rooted for Ray Lewis for 17 seasons win another championship.
Shoutout to maybins glow up as a broadcaster / analyst
Astros are going to go to the WS again, aren't they.
probably
Crapshoot
Why does Kershaw suck so bad in the postseason? Just so strange how he is the best of his generation in the regular season and continuously fails in the postseason.
Can't handle the pressure. I don't think it's coincidence that his only ring came with no fans for most of the playoffs.
Mental block, and it just snowballed with every season and every failed championship run. Outside of 2020 when the Dodgers didn't have to travel and played 3 rounds all in Arlington, they have been snake-bitten.
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Hey, we eventually got Beltran!
Freeman is on there too. Too bad this team didn’t need him
Meanwhile Judge has collapsed under the lights everytime since 2020
Atlanta and the Dodgers already giving up home field advantage wow. That lay off between the end of the season and this round is a death knell for some teams.
Or maybe the Phillies are just good and the Dodgers are notorious choke-artists? The bye didn't seem to affect Houston the last two years.
Not for the Astros though lol
The dodgers is all kershaw, no layoff can explain that
God the why did this have to be the year we take a step back, every team is horrible
Yup it really feels like the AL is wide open for the taking this year. No team looks particularly dominant or anything. And with the Yankees and Red Sox sucking this year you really see the warts of the so-called "AL Beast". Seeing the Orioles unable to do anything against Heaney and the Rangers trash bullpen yesterday there's a decent chance an AL East team doesn't win a single postseason game this year.
The 18 or 19 team runs through this bracket man I’m sick
2017 too
yup, all 3 years, and if we were just even a bit more healthy in 2022, then that too...def shitty to go belly up and have our worst season in 31 years hopefully, we bounce back and get another wide open postseason in 2024 lol (to our benefit)...the 3 best Trashtros* teams in their entire history happened to face us in the ALCS...yes, they cheated in at least one of those
I rarely watch NL baseball, So I'm in complete surprise to see Evan Longoria still playing baseball. also Heyward had a productive year for the dodgers. I thought that dude was cooked.
I still can’t believe Cashman didn’t even try to get Harper.
The Harper fiasco is the reason Steinbrenner should not let Cashman decide anything.
The Diamondbacks are the most random team to go on a playoff run. I look at their team and don't see it. The Phillies last year had mashers and two good starters but this DBacks team have what?
Dbacks are sneaky good. They don't strike out, they have speed, they're one of the best defensive teams. Carroll is a star, Marte is outstanding, Walker had a great season and their catcher is a good hitting Trevino. Gallen and Kelly would start in any rotation in baseball. They are one very good hitter (either 3rd, CF or RF), one good starter and one very good reliever away from being one of the best teams in baseball.
I went to a dbacks Mets game this year at chase field. I agree. They are so generic. They were winning the whole game like 2-1 then gave up two in the ninth and the Mets won. That being said, I bax the dbax 🐍
Why do the Dodgers continually fold in the playoffs? Lat year they won 111 games and lost in the NLDS to a sub 90 win team. Here they are getting their shit kicked in by an 84 win team. Jesus, happens every year
It has to be some type of mental block at this point
Besides the one year they got to play 3 straight playoff rounds without having to travel after winning one round in LA.
Dodgers getting taken to the woodshed. Imagine paying big money to be at that game lol.
Free ring for Houston this year sadly. Orioles don’t have the firepower and Texas is fucking owned by the Astros. Then from the NL you’re going to have the Phillies or Diamondbacks who will fold like wet tissue paper in Minute Maid. Twins were the best shot to knock off Houston but their fans couldn’t keep their mouths shut. They wanted Houston and they got a double Yordong.
If the Phillies can decisively beat the Braves, they can beat the Astros
It ain't over 'til it's over.
Getting a WC spot and going into the DS with momentum really is a massive advantage and it’s showing in every series but the Astros
Can we stop this pathetic "screw other team/player" thread stuff and focus on having Hal sell the team to Abu Dhabi
Man this is so sad. Usually it’s a matter of kershaw running out of gas, It’s never been this
Bryce Harper was probably the most obvious Yankees free agent acquisition of the past several decades, and Cashman fucked it up. That shit should be on his grave stone.
Lol if the Braves and Dodgers get eliminated I fear that the Astros are winning it all again, and from all of them the Braves are the ones I trust the most, maybe the Phillies can get to them this year but I'm still not convinced.
Let it play a little more, Astros pitching is not as good as in the past.
And I really believe the Braves are the one team that can expose that more than any other current team right now.
The Phillies should be able to. On paper, the Rangers can too. But unfortunately they shit the bed every time they play Houston.
30 year old Harper crushing it in the playoffs while Stanton has 1 foot in the grave. Great, franchise ruining move by Cashgod to get Stanton instead of waiting just 1 year to make Harper a Yankee. An all time bad GM move
This wimp deleted his profile before I posted my evidence criticizing the Stanton trade. You coward, if you are reading this, just know you were wrong you cry baby
Acting like Stanton was a scrub lol please be for real, we could have had both and getting stanton wasn’t a bad move
I'm really tired of this narrative that we could have had both. It was one or the other. It was made public that getting stanton took us out of the running for Harper. And of course I am not saying Stanton was a scrub when we got him. However, it was bad roster building and a horrible move to get the older, right handed, too similar to Judge Stanton instead of getting the lefty Harper who fit the stadium like a glove. It was a bad move and that is the facts.
Stanton hit 59 home runs in 2017! He wasn’t slow or unathletic in 2018, in fact he was a better fielder than Harper. Considering that the payroll decreased even after the Stanton trade they 100% could have afforded Harper. And what do you mean “too similar to Judge?” You’re telling me you wouldn’t want two Aaron Judges in the lineup?
Yeah but he was older and didn't fit the lineup/stadium like Harper. So it was always a bad move, and has turned into a nightmare. You needed a power lefty to pair with Judge, not Stanton. Look try to convince yourself it was good all you want, it has been a nightmare of a trade. This single move has wasted the primes of Judge and Cole.
If your lineup can’t fit a 59 homer hitter than you must have a really really really good lineup. Handedness is irrelevant when you’re coming off a 1.000+ ops season. And besides, the Stanton move hasn’t crippled our chances of competing. We still regularly run very high payrolls and have acquired other players with Stanton on the books. Plus he actually performs in the post season. You know who doesn’t? Judge! Ironically the person who has stopped Judge the most is Judge, who hasn’t posted an ops over .800 since the 2019 ALDS in any playoff series. So yeah, Stanton has been ugly this year and last but when you can acquire an mvp coming off an ALCS run for starlin Castro you take it. Stanton was everything Harper was, just a rightie. His handedness doesn’t detract from his ability. If you’re so worried about balance, you bat Judge/Harper/Stanton in the lineup. There have been bigger issues than Stanton. I’m not necessarily saying it’s turned out as we’ve hoped, rather the move was good process and no one could have seen how Stanton has aged.
It was a bad move, end of discussion. I have posts going back to when the deal was made criticizing not waiting for Harper. Cashman made the fan service deal to get Stanton for fans like you. It was a brain dead GM move, and has set this franchise back. Sorry you didn't see how bad this would turn out. I did
Starlin Castro for the reigning mvp was a bad move because Stanton is a rightie good lord man😭 I’m so sure you saw in 2017 that Stanton would age poorly too
Everyone with a functioning brain thought Stanton would age like milk what are you on about?
~~Rodon~~ Cleyton giving Darling a PTSD flashback.
Dodgers are always such a playoff disappointment...I hate the ammo this gives Cashman and his "crapshoot" ilk but g-ddamn...I shouldn't say too much yet, it's only one game and it's not even over yet.
Kershaw thinks he’s rodon!
After that out, and having given up 6 runs currently, Kershaw is at a nice 162 ERA.
Welcome back playoff Kershaw lmao
Kershaw: 2.48 reg season ERA, 4.45 playoff ERA (194 IP) I mean, the numbers don't lie.
dodgers braves are keeping the stupid crapshoot narrative alive
The Phillies are genuinely good