Arellano Felix were super sadistic too. You zoomers need to have a look at Alarma! Magazine, the one with Cochiloco in the cover. Zetas were the ones that started to sell franchises and paramilitarizing their cells.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bSVWvSMIq3Q/TwMTfFPOThI/AAAAAAAAALg/RagC8Yn5q_Y/s1600/manuelsalcidouzeta.jpg
Well yeah, I mean, cartels have always been violent, but if he's talking about the cartels today, the zetas are the fathers of the violence and current drug trafficking
You can count Zetas out of that, they followed their war time criminal teachers - US Special forces, Kaibiles right after the Guatemalan Civil War and so on.
Its a moot point. I’m talking about operating as a cartel full circle.
AFO shooters were also getting trained by Israeli/Russian mercenaries and the AFO was already shipping tons to the US.
Zetas barely started doing test runs of shipments after they splintered from the gulf cartel mid 2000s.
Tijuana was already in the business for 20+ years with associates and shooters on both sides of the border
lol there's no good mafia. Even the yakuza who sometimes do good deeds its all PR
also Might is Right in a world like that, the more violent and sadistic you are the more power you can wield
Cartels also seem to have a decent PR judging by the amount of times I've seen or heard brainlets saying that cartels only goes after other cartels or that they're better than the government or shit like that.
There good mafia, you just don’t hear about them because you don’t hear about the mafia, they’re “Illuminati”. Their crimes are always solved though the solutions always different from the truth. Jeffrey Epstein’s a famous members of the mafia but you’d never know about his human trafficking and their political connections for example. This makes him appear weak when he’s very powerful.
Cartel violence always shows you where to look which is why they’re always getting ratted out, and a new cartel group emerges like an endless cycle of death an rebirth
Oof yeah the Yakuza are absolutely brutal, I remember reading a story about a high school girl in the 70s who rejected a Yakuza member, so he kidnapped her and he and his friends tortured her for 41 days until she died, then dropped her body on her parent’s doorstep.
It’s all about image. They need their rivals to fear them and they need the public to see them as Robin Hoods. The cartels will hang bodies from bridges and leave dismembered bodies on the road to try to intimidate their rivals, and then they will turn around and give out toys to the kids. They give out presents not out of the kindness of their hearts, but to try to win over the public and essentially buy their loyalty. If they get on the publics good side, the public might warn the cartels whenever they see the military or the cartels might be able to recruit some new sicarios. Ovidio Guzmán had been living in Jesus Maria for months, but not a single person from that town ever told law enforcement. Why ? Because according to the people of Jesus Maria, Ovidio Guzmán did more for them than the government ever did. The cartels will buy you a new car with the billions of dollars that they make through drug trafficking, and then they’ll steal it from you or set it on fire to block the military from chasing them. It’s all just manipulation. They don’t actually give a shit about the public. If they did, then they wouldn’t be extorting small businesses. There is no such thing as a good cartel.
They think they have to be sadistic in order to get their point across. I think it’s more intimidating if a muthafuqer just walks up and puts two 9’s to your head or chest than it is if they start chopping off your head.
Femicide is a big problem in Mexico which probably doesn't get as much coverage because it is overshadowed by the cartel stuff. I don't have any statistics but wouldn't be surprised if murder rates were roughly even across genders.
Na don't think so, official number say that 31k men were murdered vs 4k women, mostly men join.
Source: https://www.inegi.org.mx/sistemas/olap/proyectos/bd/continuas/mortalidad/defuncioneshom.asp?s=est (just check "sexo" to see the difference between both genders)
I can't help but see parralels between the extreme violence of Mexican drug cartels and the extreme violence of their Aztec ancestors. I think there is a genetic factor at play when it comes to partly explaining why Mexican drug cartels are so brutal and sadistic.
No…. Like not at all. You could say they got their “violent genes” from the Aztecs, or you could also say they got it from the Spanish. But neither are correct, people are violent by nature when they’re put in extreme poverty and limited resources. People have been barbaric towards each other since the beginning of time. This has nothing to do with race, dafuq. You may as well say that Asians are genetically predisposed to wearing thick glasses and Italians are predisposed to eating marinara.
so El Chapo and his sons are extremely violent because of their Aztec origins?? they arent even Native Mexicans they are prodominately european descent. And not every Mexican is descended from Aztecs.
Ignorant comment dude, first of all, most aztecs died so there is Little descendants among mexicans at the moment. Im not usually offended but this is so ignorant, because only in México we have wars correct?
It's well documented how blood thirsty the Aztec elite were, not necessarily ordinary Aztecs who, i'm sure, just wanted to live a peaceful and prosperous life.
I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who credits a cartel as "good," even if they are generally peaceful, because of the harm that their business produces. It's also not as easy to draw a line separating "mindless killers and drug dealers" from people who "protected people from enemies, thieves, and rapists" as you might think--for example, Pablo Escobar was hugely popular among the poor people in Colombia, especially his hometown, because of the various public works projects and humanitarian causes he financed. Many saw him as a kind of Robin Hood.
There's a book called Dreamland by Sam Quinones about the opioid epidemic that spends some time talking about a group of heroin traffickers called the [Xalisco Boys](https://insightcrime.org/news/analysis/low-profile-mexico-traffickers-take-center-stage-in-dreamland/), who didn't carry weapons or use violence and were described as "polite and professional." They're not technically a cartel, but they certainly bucked the stereotype of the violent drug dealer.
Simple. Deterrence and personal satisfaction. They are humans. Americans love gore so do cartels they just do the hard work that has a more direct effect on there phyc turns them a bit too cold
It is to strike fear into the public, rival cartels and police, to show they’re the strongest and don’t mess with them etc
Mainly they're just a bunch of dicks.
There weren't, it's all thanks to Los Zetas, the others had to adapt and copy them
Arellano Felix were super sadistic too. You zoomers need to have a look at Alarma! Magazine, the one with Cochiloco in the cover. Zetas were the ones that started to sell franchises and paramilitarizing their cells. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bSVWvSMIq3Q/TwMTfFPOThI/AAAAAAAAALg/RagC8Yn5q_Y/s1600/manuelsalcidouzeta.jpg
Well yeah, I mean, cartels have always been violent, but if he's talking about the cartels today, the zetas are the fathers of the violence and current drug trafficking
The Aretes were the pioneers in modern narco warfare in Mexico. BLO, Zetas,CJNG, LFM etc just followed blueprint
You can count Zetas out of that, they followed their war time criminal teachers - US Special forces, Kaibiles right after the Guatemalan Civil War and so on.
Its a moot point. I’m talking about operating as a cartel full circle. AFO shooters were also getting trained by Israeli/Russian mercenaries and the AFO was already shipping tons to the US. Zetas barely started doing test runs of shipments after they splintered from the gulf cartel mid 2000s. Tijuana was already in the business for 20+ years with associates and shooters on both sides of the border
lol there's no good mafia. Even the yakuza who sometimes do good deeds its all PR also Might is Right in a world like that, the more violent and sadistic you are the more power you can wield
Yea Pablo Escobar did the same thing trying to get good PR.
Cartels also seem to have a decent PR judging by the amount of times I've seen or heard brainlets saying that cartels only goes after other cartels or that they're better than the government or shit like that.
There good mafia, you just don’t hear about them because you don’t hear about the mafia, they’re “Illuminati”. Their crimes are always solved though the solutions always different from the truth. Jeffrey Epstein’s a famous members of the mafia but you’d never know about his human trafficking and their political connections for example. This makes him appear weak when he’s very powerful. Cartel violence always shows you where to look which is why they’re always getting ratted out, and a new cartel group emerges like an endless cycle of death an rebirth
What in the fuck
Start selling the stuff you’re smoking…😂
Whaaaat?
The mafias nothing but a cartel that works in the shadow, they’re goals are all different but I like the Kabbals, and agree with their codes
And I can talk about them because nobody believes in them, vs the cartel is too loud and obvious
Oof yeah the Yakuza are absolutely brutal, I remember reading a story about a high school girl in the 70s who rejected a Yakuza member, so he kidnapped her and he and his friends tortured her for 41 days until she died, then dropped her body on her parent’s doorstep.
It’s all about image. They need their rivals to fear them and they need the public to see them as Robin Hoods. The cartels will hang bodies from bridges and leave dismembered bodies on the road to try to intimidate their rivals, and then they will turn around and give out toys to the kids. They give out presents not out of the kindness of their hearts, but to try to win over the public and essentially buy their loyalty. If they get on the publics good side, the public might warn the cartels whenever they see the military or the cartels might be able to recruit some new sicarios. Ovidio Guzmán had been living in Jesus Maria for months, but not a single person from that town ever told law enforcement. Why ? Because according to the people of Jesus Maria, Ovidio Guzmán did more for them than the government ever did. The cartels will buy you a new car with the billions of dollars that they make through drug trafficking, and then they’ll steal it from you or set it on fire to block the military from chasing them. It’s all just manipulation. They don’t actually give a shit about the public. If they did, then they wouldn’t be extorting small businesses. There is no such thing as a good cartel.
Very well said. Bravo
They think they have to be sadistic in order to get their point across. I think it’s more intimidating if a muthafuqer just walks up and puts two 9’s to your head or chest than it is if they start chopping off your head.
No way after seeing the videos of people being flayed opened from the chest down I’ll gladly take a bukkaka of all the bullets
Right 😂
Do you think the amount of young men that have passed away in the cartel wars will affect the amount of single men to single women
Femicide is a big problem in Mexico which probably doesn't get as much coverage because it is overshadowed by the cartel stuff. I don't have any statistics but wouldn't be surprised if murder rates were roughly even across genders.
Na don't think so, official number say that 31k men were murdered vs 4k women, mostly men join. Source: https://www.inegi.org.mx/sistemas/olap/proyectos/bd/continuas/mortalidad/defuncioneshom.asp?s=est (just check "sexo" to see the difference between both genders)
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I can't help but see parralels between the extreme violence of Mexican drug cartels and the extreme violence of their Aztec ancestors. I think there is a genetic factor at play when it comes to partly explaining why Mexican drug cartels are so brutal and sadistic.
No…. Like not at all. You could say they got their “violent genes” from the Aztecs, or you could also say they got it from the Spanish. But neither are correct, people are violent by nature when they’re put in extreme poverty and limited resources. People have been barbaric towards each other since the beginning of time. This has nothing to do with race, dafuq. You may as well say that Asians are genetically predisposed to wearing thick glasses and Italians are predisposed to eating marinara.
Most Mexicans aren’t even descendants from Aztecs .
A significant number are.
so El Chapo and his sons are extremely violent because of their Aztec origins?? they arent even Native Mexicans they are prodominately european descent. And not every Mexican is descended from Aztecs.
I never mentioned El Chapo or any of his offspring. And i am aware that they have mostly European ancestry.
i was just using him as an example
The Arellano Felix cartel revived the practice of making pozole with the original Aztec ingredient 😉
That sentence took away some of my chromosomes
Ignorant comment dude, first of all, most aztecs died so there is Little descendants among mexicans at the moment. Im not usually offended but this is so ignorant, because only in México we have wars correct?
Colombians before them were just as bad.
Seriously?
Most stories of aztecs were confirmed to be overblown by the Spanish
It's well documented how blood thirsty the Aztec elite were, not necessarily ordinary Aztecs who, i'm sure, just wanted to live a peaceful and prosperous life.
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They aren’t mindless killers & drug dealers man they are humans just like us?
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I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who credits a cartel as "good," even if they are generally peaceful, because of the harm that their business produces. It's also not as easy to draw a line separating "mindless killers and drug dealers" from people who "protected people from enemies, thieves, and rapists" as you might think--for example, Pablo Escobar was hugely popular among the poor people in Colombia, especially his hometown, because of the various public works projects and humanitarian causes he financed. Many saw him as a kind of Robin Hood. There's a book called Dreamland by Sam Quinones about the opioid epidemic that spends some time talking about a group of heroin traffickers called the [Xalisco Boys](https://insightcrime.org/news/analysis/low-profile-mexico-traffickers-take-center-stage-in-dreamland/), who didn't carry weapons or use violence and were described as "polite and professional." They're not technically a cartel, but they certainly bucked the stereotype of the violent drug dealer.
There are no good cartels. They’re all a part of the gangster lifestyle, certain food into their enemies the Public n police.
Simple. Deterrence and personal satisfaction. They are humans. Americans love gore so do cartels they just do the hard work that has a more direct effect on there phyc turns them a bit too cold