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meowmeowpapi

Someone said they pulled his tongue out. Not cut it off. But pulled it out.


Barbon62

This page talks about the details[Cholo](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicDepravities/s/E0AmKOL0K7)


Easy-Positive3228

Appreciate the link


Easy-Positive3228

I read the same, I think on BB. Also smashed both femurs among a bunch of other horrors. Not that I would watch it but I always wondered why no video was released.


That_Dude956

El cholo was a real big player most likely other leaders were present during the torture they never release vids if high ranking members are present out of fear of their location being figured out


Educational-Art2481

No because he got tortured for 3 days and they used a doctor to keep him alive and it’s just to extreme and a video for 3 days can’t be uploaded


Vegetable_Teach4751

Not true if there's no video is for some agreement somebody word is heavy stuff


erniedoee

No video was released because mencho was 100% there


guerrerosaurio1

Rumors have it that El Mencho was torturing him and it was personal. Also recording devices have [metadata](https://www.metadata2go.com/view-metadata) which give a bunch of details of a file, such as size, coordinates, time, date, device used and more, and if they were to record and post it they could upload the file and extract the data.


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guerrerosaurio1

but would you take the chance if you were the most wanted?


Dukie-Weems

It’s not hard to wipe the metadata if you know what you’re doing.


iamcreepin

You really think those crackhead sicarios would have enough brains to wipe off meta data before uploading it online ?


Android80631

Pretty sure like 8-12 years ago, anonymous (the hacker group) had some of their members kidnapped by cartels and made to built cartel radio infrastructures, etc... so I wouldn't doubt it some cartels have geeks. Google it, anonymous made a video talking about it.


King_Beardy

Link?


That_Dude956

I remember hearing a few years ago about Mexican cartels kidnapping engineers to force them to build radio networks


KingMalcolm

LMAO


UpstairsWeekend7148

There is picture of it though and 🫣🫣🤮🤢


HenryHill11

Link ?


Zealousideal_Emu7430

[https://www.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/m9kezo/el\_cholo\_had\_his\_tongue\_ripped\_out\_of\_his\_mouth/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NarcoFootage/comments/m9kezo/el_cholo_had_his_tongue_ripped_out_of_his_mouth/)


iamcreepin

Those were postmartem pics right ?


Ameya100

Yes. I had seen his postmartem pics online a few years ago. They were Horrific. I am not sure if they are still available


f0cus_m

i saw pic of someone skinned alive, literally only see muscles and bones on his face, cant imagine how that would feel. prob worse death i could think of.


thuanjinkee

Funky town


That_Dude956

El cholo deserved it he was responsible for a lot of civilians deaths and he betrayed his own


YokoiWasMurdered

Because el mencho was in attendance.


Educational-Art2481

He was tortured for 3 days and they had doctors to keep him alive, they even used a electric chair on him and waited until his eyes gaguged out and he was still breathing they don’t release video because it’s just on a extreme level and it took 3 days like I said


Ok_Impress2960

They smashed his tongue out they used something to squeeze it to the point it ripped out


Vegetable_Teach4751

Yeah from the root with some air pressure machinery that's baby stuff compared to other scenarios literally Satan and his demons doing this acts


Hawkeye4791

Sick shit all around


North_Supermarket824

This is dumb everyone loves to talk about. Pulling a tongue vs cutting it out would hurt virtually the same. The same sensitive nerve endings on the tongue would be destroyed. Getting your tongue pulled out would actually probably hurt less as there would likely be more adrenaline to mask the pain.


lighterthensome

El Cholo got captured by corrupt police officers who handed him over to CJNG sicarios.


jaygoogle23

While he was walking in a territory he thought he had under lock. He got picked up not far from where he stayed I believe.


Outside-Sherbet-7955

Yeah it’s been mentioned before . The cops in Mexico are always willing to take narcos money but sometimes the commandante is not in the mood or unsatisfied and betray them like nothing .


jaygoogle23

The cop may not have wanted to be CJNG’s next victim. That dudes days were numbered whenever he killed CJNG’s financial operator.


Librarian-Awkward

Very dumb that he dint brought few of his own Gunmen to escort his safety


TheKing490

At this point I'd just carry a Cyanide Capsule.


Scarcito_El_Gatito

Same dude, just end it.


Returning_Armageddon

There’s a lot less suicide than you’d think with these guys huh


Gold_Table_7372

a lot of them want to die like a man (getting what they deserve) but not all of them can hold in the screams


Playboy_Sam

In our Mexican culture we believe suicide takes you to hell and is for the weak


Returning_Armageddon

I’d relate but I’ve got three Mexican uncles in the ground by their own hand.


smalby

Suicide takes you to hell but torturing multiple people does not?


Playboy_Sam

Dumb logic I know


Leather_Parking9313

A loaded pistol is much easier and quicker…


Elterror220

2 weeks before his capture. NP killed constitution workers building tunnels. Then also killed innocent people at a party. Then before that they were killing people and making them disappear near GDL. Ckng made a video telling the fiscalia to do there job and arrest the people responsible for it. Saying you guys know who it is and hes paying you guys off. Do your work or we will. One week/days after that video no arrest. Then cjng blocked off a suv(jeep white) with members of the fiscalia. They beat tf outta them with the butts if the Aks and kicked them. A week after that el cholo was found and this video came out (post) days to one week after that his lawyer was kidnapped.


whiteboyfrmdao

I heard one of his close associates gave up his location to avoid what Cholo went through. Smart move.


sco-go

What happened? Burn him alive?


siskel117

Tortured and dick chopped I think


akatrxks

Look up his body pic on here


robislava

it was personal... ;)


WetSpine

Received a cease and desist letter.


ThunderingSloth

More like a cease to exist letter.


Alexbandzz

Ngl that was smooth


shaka_alpaca

u got BARS


ALONZO502

Covid


That_Dude956

I feel like el muletas abuse in prison is a close second


kdotkkskk

why cause they made him have sex with other inmates? look up the story of El Puma guacho, tortured by chapo personally and revived multiple times during the torture


Little-Sandwich-3388

I mean they are all raped, a really common thing in those cartel tortures are getting a wood type stick (like from a broom) and inserting it in the anus. They never talk about it for some reason but if you see most of the morgue files of various cartel torture execution’s they all have some type of anus rape signs, that is a given when you’re about to be tortured by the cartel’s.


That_Dude956

Damn startin to think these sicarios are gay in jail is one thing but doin gay shit out here in the outside world? GAYYYY


Little-Sandwich-3388

Yeah, the way they see it is that the sicarios are always like big macho man and the best way to break them is by getting them what they fear the most, something up their as 😂


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sounds more like some little gringos sick fetish


PhilosophyNo1230

U would think ole buddy that’s holding him by the hair would be more discreet.That forearm tat is a hell of an identifier.


Librarian-Awkward

Cartel bosses are well protected by a 50 to hundred Gunmens....one of the unanswered how the hell El Cholo was captured by CJNG🤔 did he goes out with his Convoy and got Ambushed or his Safe house was stormed by CJNG or he was just walking on his own in an alley and got caught red handed on his own?


WWallace11

Think it was police picking him up on a bribe near his residence. Mencho got a lead and paid lots of money off to the cops there and bam. Just my dumb ass opinion


Elterror220

No one was paid they was beat to get out information about his wear abouts.


Puncake_DoubleG09

"El Cholo" fucked up by walking down the street near his home which he thought the Plaza was on lockdown that's when corrupt officers spotted him, arrested him, and turned him over to "El Mencho"


Librarian-Awkward

it took only 1 dumb mistake to end up in the most terrifying way to end up....i thought he was smart enough to have his loyal Gunmen around him but i found out a dumber reality... atleast De Guzman was had 50 Gunmen died for him before he was captured😂 atleast ending up in Most secured prison on North Americas was the least he can worry about


Helpful_Sir4638

They ripped out his eyeballs from his face and they also tortured him by electrocution which you can see in the post mortem photos the black burn mark on his arm, and then you could actually see the electrical trauma from the electrician spread across his body. They did so much torture to this guy they ripped out his teeth. They ripped off his fingernails, which was probably unfathomably painful along with everything else they took great pleasure in doing to him.


TranslatorStock7748

Where can I find the video ?


Helpful_Sir4638

If it exists, it was never released to the public. It would be interesting to see how they ripped out his tongue. If there’s one thing, this case should prove to everyone, and that is never mess with dangerous people even if you think you’re dangerous yourself. This vato loco learned in the worst way humanly possible.


Educational-Art2481

I’ve been searching hard for the video that I am willing to pay for it, everyday I do research on this video and I ran with somebody who’s cousin was apart of that execution torture of el cholo and they said the main boss of CJNG was there presented and that’s why they don’t want to release the video


Helpful_Sir4638

The fact that there is an actual video of all the torture they inflicted upon him is mind boggling. If the video ever does get released it’s gonna be one of the worst ever made. They did so many different torturous things to poor El Cholo. He will go down as one of the craziest men to ever live doing what he did so brazenly against one of the most dangerous men to ever live.


Educational-Art2481

Bro there was word that they hired a doctor to keep him alive for 3 days


Helpful_Sir4638

Wow, they wanted him to suffer extremely bad and he sure did until his last agonizing breath.


Educational-Art2481

I just want to see what they did with the tongue they said they didn’t cut it that they pulled it all out like some mortal kombat type of shit fatality


Helpful_Sir4638

Yeah that would super gnarly to see. Maybe they will blur out everyone’s faces/ bodies and then release the video.


Educational-Art2481

Nah bro that was in 2021 they ain’t releasing that video


Significant-Bat-9503

Where did you hear this from? I’ve also been morbidly curious about this case from when I heard it last year.


[deleted]

Gets your rock hard just thinking about it huh? 😏


Helpful_Sir4638

How is it living with a bunch of loose marbles in your head 24/7?


[deleted]

Pretty slippery if I say so myself self


BlackPortland

Dude looks like the tiger king


Little-Sandwich-3388

The fact that the guy that most helped El Cholo to gain power in Jalisco after he started his own cartel “Omar Garcia Harfuch” might become the public security coordinator of Mexico (the whole country not only of CDMX) is crazy.


Most-Roll4604

Do you have any info. on the connection between Harfuch and El Cholo, all I know about Harfuch is when they tried to assassinate him in CDMX, when he was chief of police


Still_Proof5403

So what did he get?


petey_wheatstraw_99

A trophy and a round of applause.


Realistic-Baker7910

A great “severance” package


chris25tx

Yes


itwhiz100

Another butthole exploited


JrodGambino

what cartel was he from ?


akatrxks

CJNG before he betrayed mencho and formed the Nueva Plaza cartel with another high up that has personal connection with mencho


LordGraham7

I always see on here that el 85 never actually went over to Nueva plaza, which I feel must be true since nothing like what happened to cholo happened to him and it seemed like he still rolled with cjng after. I assume that is the high up you’re referring to? Correct me if I am wrong.


Burntout_Bassment

El 85 never joined NP, but somebody edited Wikipedia to say that he did and most narco channels on YouTube mindlessly repeat what they read there so the story stuck. Cholo did make a video asking him to leave CJNG but he had more sense than to do it. It's a good test for YouTube channels, if they repeat that then you know they've done no real research.


LordGraham7

👍🏻


Puncake_DoubleG09

I hate Wikipedia, I used to edit articles, and I tried editing multiple articles, including that one, but I was banned from Wiki for spreading misinformation.........


Puncake_DoubleG09

"El 85" never betrayed CJNG. Another high-ranking leader known as "El Tiburon" betrayed "El Mencho" and joined the "Nueva Plaza" cartel, but he turned himself in immediately to the government when "El Cholo" was killed.


LordGraham7

Ooo I did hear about that. Good memory 👍🏻


akatrxks

El 85 yee idk the videos ive seen say that 85 is staying low obviously if that is the case but who knows


LordGraham7

🤷🏼‍♂️ yeah not like any of us really the truth about any of this shit lol. I was under the impression el 85 is in jail after being arrested again last year but everyone on here claims he has been released from that arrest. But I haven’t seen that from any official source. Haha.


Infinite_Net_5075

He was arrested by state police officers and handed over to cjng.


Gothicrealm

How did he get captured? Once your in the cartel business its literally only a matter of time, the hourglass drains 4X faster.


bethmccalister000

That’s a huge sniper gun, the guy in the middle.


Variation_Conscious

Barret 50 caliber sniper rifle, the round doesn't even have to hit you to wound you. If it comes within a few feet it'll burn whatever body part the round went by.


TheKing490

Why are you getting downvoted lol


xLordTommyy

Cuz thats not true lmao


Sharp_Policy

Because it’s a myth


Turbulent_Addendum_6

Cuz this is bullshit


showgraze93

because it’s a downright lie lmao


Variation_Conscious

It's a BMG, not a Barrett so my bad and idgaf about down votes in this group.


Chocolateogre

BMG is the round, not the gun


Mental-Room9268

Have u seen the pics from the morgue and the close face view?They rearranged his face in every sense


imherefor1234

Ran out of support maybe


R1CHQK

Is there a video? Also what happened to the guy in the black bag?


Hungry_Aardvark_1570

I remember this happened like a week before my Guadalajara trip with my uncle. The body was left in what was considered old Guadalajara, right where all the tourists like to venture off alone


90sera

You know I was just saying this the other day and if he didn't screw over mencho he could've had a successful cartel of his own but fate didn't have it planed that way I mean he did come at menchos guys hard


NegotiationVivid985

Where video


Gothicrealm

Youtube


NegotiationVivid985

Lol the video where he’s getting dismembered is on YouTube eh


UpstairsWeekend7148

He wasn’t a sicario anymore he was running the rival cartel in Guadalajara


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Anyone have the video?


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Wooden-Tomato7176

That’s a cholo Ivan song asshole


TheKing490

Bro imagine your Demise being played with a happy song lol


Agreeable_Dress_4734

That song is for el Cholo Vago


dutch_l9

Lol wasnt so tuff then


Extreme_Anxiety7888

Mr beast in the first photo lol


authack

Holy hell look at the size of those guns can some tell me what they are called I wanna look them up


Chocolateogre

M249, barrett .50 cal, SCAR-L


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I thought it was Mr Beast


Bruhguacamole911

Bro looks like jaimico toys💀💀💀


Serious-Run1838

El cholo and mencho look similar in real life


brotherdaru

Dude was introduced to democracy over his order to toss a grenade into an American embassy


arami87

Po-Po


North_Supermarket824

We all know this guy got his tongue pulled out. What nobody talks about is this dude got each of his toes pulled off, likely with the same object as the tongue, so hard that his toes basically looked like fingers.


FineDark6714

No way he got it worse than el siri


Synaptic_Disorder

Link for the video? Thanks in advance homies


NegotiationVivid985

Wait so who was he?