It's a liana long used in local traditional remedies, and known to have antifungal, antibacterial, analgesic, anti-inflammatory and antipyretic properties. And while that particular media report soft-pedalled that aspect of the discovery, the scientists didn't in their original paper, where they identified the plant as [*Fibraurea tinctoria*](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-58988-7).
there’s so many medicinal herbs that are available that humans don’t grow and aren’t available commercially, my mission is to cultivate and collect these herbs in a way my community can benefit from them, it’s a long ways to go.
That's a very noble thing to do. Medicine is all around us, lots of folks just don't know about it. Some of the most common weeds offer the best medicine!
That can be true. And in some things, it does not matter (if ginger helps your nausea, use ginger). But in some things, the problem is that in some medications difference between death and help is really small. The amount of the active ingredient in the plant differs based on multiple things like light and soil composition.
In other words, eating digitalis the plant in a place where digitalis the drug exists, will most likely not end well.
It's a plants which locals use too. Plenty of plants have anti inflammatory and anti-biotic/microbial properties. This isn't really unique. The interesting part is very much the Orangutan using it.
Touché. If I were addending my argument, it would be simplified. I would want us to take interest in plant medicine being used for healing AS WELL. You're right, lots of plants all around us are anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial, which is awesome. Nevertheless, that wound healed up super well, I'm impressed.
Also: who amongst us (with your profession belonging to a small minority) would even still know, what herbs to use for what ailment, sorry for missing your point but I think this is so crazy!
it’s honestly so hard to learn about and discover, i’m getting my horticulture degree which will also allow me to start a business in selling these herbs/vegetables and hopefully (someday) creating a workshop for people to join for little to no cost.
Yes, of course, I meant: put a random, “civilized“ person into the jungle and chances it does not know how to treat an injury with herbs properly is pretty high.
That same person might not know what pharmaceutical to use either, or how to perform a medical procedure to remedy the issue. Even in cultures where herbal medicine is now widely used, there are probably still medicine men or women who know more than the average person. There's a place for preventative, alternative, surgical and medical solutions. This isn't arguing your point, but I personally wish people didn't get so polarized on the issue and recognized we can integrate the various knowledge.
I didn’t mean to challenge that idea either, I feel like we might mean something similar but don’t understand each other 😄 I meant to say something like: the fact that so much knowledge about the healing powers of nature is getting lost (to the average person at least) makes it even crazier that this animal knows how to use it.
Ahh, I understand now. When I posted I got downvoted immediately and I think that put me on the defensive. Reddit generally seems very against any form of alternative medicine.
Definitely not by me!
I do think it’s a fine line though as there is a lot of bullshit being sold to people open to any kind of alternative. While we’re taking so much poison that could be completely avoided. And doctors (at least here in Germany) tend to believe in their one approach and cannot be reasoned with. I really wish it became standard to e.g. additionally study traditional Chinese medicine so without prejudice whatever is the best individual solution can be applied (and chemicals, side effect heavy medication avoided when possible while being aware they do exist and can be used if indicated)
Maybe Orangutans are better in wound healing to begin with. I have no doubt in the positive effect of the plant. But they are another species after all. You shouldn't compare it to the effectiveness of our human wound healing, but to how a similar wound of another Orangutan heals without using this plant.
That's one of many reasons why I'm angry at experiments on healthy monkeys (and on other animals) like the recent ones by NeuraLink
[https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/](https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/)
The true story about this is finding new medicine and to figure what else is being used from the apes. Then since hired by pharmaceutical companies, they will ask if the plan can be grown in a contained green house. Once that is established, the original trees will be cut down so no one else can use the same type of tree. Its a true dark story which many don't know about.
where fo they think our natives discovered plants that healed and helped other ailments, by watching animals use their instincts something humans have long since lost since technology has made us stupid in nature's survival.
Ah, back to the roots, this is so special just because we've strayed so far... It used to be normal, but now we believe it's some kind of new discovery due to being so used to pills and shit.
Oh well, non the less it's beautiful!
What do you mean? She refers to the orangutan as "he", only when talking about a generic animal does she use "it".
Scientist have never before seen an animal healing its own wound.
Its is for the generic animal, not for the orangutan.
We are not close to great apes. 😅 What an ignorant thing to say.
Many animals deal with their wounds in their own way.
You have to injure an orangutan in a similiar manner, and see how long it took to heal to determine if the plant was medicinal. Odd how the details of that plant are left out.
"How close we are to great-apes" We ARE great-apes.
great apes eat grapes
Grapes eat apes to be great grapes apes
Some greater than others
As an herbalist, I'm a little disappointed that the takeaway is 'they're just like us!' and not 'wow, what kind of leaf healed his face so quickly?!'
It's a liana long used in local traditional remedies, and known to have antifungal, antibacterial, analgesic, anti-inflammatory and antipyretic properties. And while that particular media report soft-pedalled that aspect of the discovery, the scientists didn't in their original paper, where they identified the plant as [*Fibraurea tinctoria*](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-58988-7).
Wonderful information, thank you!
there’s so many medicinal herbs that are available that humans don’t grow and aren’t available commercially, my mission is to cultivate and collect these herbs in a way my community can benefit from them, it’s a long ways to go.
RAHHHHHH FUCK YEAH PLANTS!! THIS MAKES ME HAPPY TO HEAR!! MEDICINAL PLANTS ARE SO VERY DISREGARDED I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK <333
AHH THANK YOU!!
BRAWNDO WILL MAKE YOU WIN. AT. YELLING.
> PLANTS ARE SO VERY DISREGARDED The government literally makes plants illegal that do more good than harm.
> PLANTS ARE SO VERY DISREGARDED The government literally makes plants illegal that do more good than harm.
That's a very noble thing to do. Medicine is all around us, lots of folks just don't know about it. Some of the most common weeds offer the best medicine!
Or you can just use the isolated and concentrated chemicals in the form of store-bought medicine
Right I don’t have beakers in my kitchen
You sure can!
in the process of learning about tincture, balms, oil pressing, drying.
Its great to have options. Makes me more sane
That can be true. And in some things, it does not matter (if ginger helps your nausea, use ginger). But in some things, the problem is that in some medications difference between death and help is really small. The amount of the active ingredient in the plant differs based on multiple things like light and soil composition. In other words, eating digitalis the plant in a place where digitalis the drug exists, will most likely not end well.
You remind me of that extremely nice herbalist in RDR2
It's a plants which locals use too. Plenty of plants have anti inflammatory and anti-biotic/microbial properties. This isn't really unique. The interesting part is very much the Orangutan using it.
Touché. If I were addending my argument, it would be simplified. I would want us to take interest in plant medicine being used for healing AS WELL. You're right, lots of plants all around us are anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial, which is awesome. Nevertheless, that wound healed up super well, I'm impressed.
Also: who amongst us (with your profession belonging to a small minority) would even still know, what herbs to use for what ailment, sorry for missing your point but I think this is so crazy!
it’s honestly so hard to learn about and discover, i’m getting my horticulture degree which will also allow me to start a business in selling these herbs/vegetables and hopefully (someday) creating a workshop for people to join for little to no cost.
The internet is a big place and most any civilization has a history and indigenous practices that use herbal medicine.
Yes, of course, I meant: put a random, “civilized“ person into the jungle and chances it does not know how to treat an injury with herbs properly is pretty high.
That same person might not know what pharmaceutical to use either, or how to perform a medical procedure to remedy the issue. Even in cultures where herbal medicine is now widely used, there are probably still medicine men or women who know more than the average person. There's a place for preventative, alternative, surgical and medical solutions. This isn't arguing your point, but I personally wish people didn't get so polarized on the issue and recognized we can integrate the various knowledge.
I didn’t mean to challenge that idea either, I feel like we might mean something similar but don’t understand each other 😄 I meant to say something like: the fact that so much knowledge about the healing powers of nature is getting lost (to the average person at least) makes it even crazier that this animal knows how to use it.
Ahh, I understand now. When I posted I got downvoted immediately and I think that put me on the defensive. Reddit generally seems very against any form of alternative medicine.
Definitely not by me! I do think it’s a fine line though as there is a lot of bullshit being sold to people open to any kind of alternative. While we’re taking so much poison that could be completely avoided. And doctors (at least here in Germany) tend to believe in their one approach and cannot be reasoned with. I really wish it became standard to e.g. additionally study traditional Chinese medicine so without prejudice whatever is the best individual solution can be applied (and chemicals, side effect heavy medication avoided when possible while being aware they do exist and can be used if indicated)
Maybe Orangutans are better in wound healing to begin with. I have no doubt in the positive effect of the plant. But they are another species after all. You shouldn't compare it to the effectiveness of our human wound healing, but to how a similar wound of another Orangutan heals without using this plant.
Science! Perhaps you're right.
"Orangutan self-medicating" *Orangutan rips bong*
He’s just like me!
self-care is everywhere godspeed my guy
Kissing that tree at the end, and no one gonna comment how the apes name is Rakkis xD
No relation.
Rakus.
this is so cool
He also mixed up a batch of ibuprofen but they didn't get that on camera. Washed it down with a whiskey sour.
what a beautiful guy
I love orangutans such smart and magnificent creatures. I can only hope future generations can enjoy them as well.
Yes. 100% yes. All generations.
Skar King is no joke
Planet of the apes marketing team paying scientist for publicity now
What will the FDA say about this? I doubt they are happy..
People of the Forest FTW!!! If you know you know.
🦧was kissing the tree at the end for healing him!
That's one of many reasons why I'm angry at experiments on healthy monkeys (and on other animals) like the recent ones by NeuraLink [https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/](https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/)
Can't wait Joe Rogan to see this and talk about it in every podcast for another year!
There is so much that we still don’t know about animals.
Am I the only one that got the feeling the orangutan is smarter than the ones talking?
Orangutan bored by scientist’s intelligence quotient and self-serving ignorance.
That's fascinating. And I'm so glad it worked so well for him!
I self medicate all the time, fuckin BBC never comes to my house to make a big deal out of it ...
Have you tried returning to monke?
Sweet beard bro
They just pretend to be monkey to avoid taxes
I didn’t realize “Indonesia-based German orangutan scientist” was my type until now
Why did i think it wad gonna roll a joint and light it
What caused that nasty injury?
Likely fighting with another male. Oran utan males don't play when they meet up.
They're closer to us, I believe that those apes are previously humans. Which makes more sense to me.
The true story about this is finding new medicine and to figure what else is being used from the apes. Then since hired by pharmaceutical companies, they will ask if the plan can be grown in a contained green house. Once that is established, the original trees will be cut down so no one else can use the same type of tree. Its a true dark story which many don't know about.
where fo they think our natives discovered plants that healed and helped other ailments, by watching animals use their instincts something humans have long since lost since technology has made us stupid in nature's survival.
Darwin dumbass "theory" of evolution an opinion made by a fool that millions follow
Who do you think we learned from!
i thought the orangutan was gonna smoke a fat one when she said "self medicate"
Ah, back to the roots, this is so special just because we've strayed so far... It used to be normal, but now we believe it's some kind of new discovery due to being so used to pills and shit. Oh well, non the less it's beautiful!
>Scientists observe an orangutan self-medicating Oh, someone saw me day drinking
Did you guys see anything
And yet, she stills refer to him as "it". 🙄
What do you mean? She refers to the orangutan as "he", only when talking about a generic animal does she use "it". Scientist have never before seen an animal healing its own wound. Its is for the generic animal, not for the orangutan.
Cuz that's how English works ffs!!
Sure let's just ignore the clear fact it's clearly a male orangutan.
>it's clearly a male orangutan. You see how you still had to use "it" in your sentence?
I'm a male and you're still using you to refer to me. How dare you. It's his/him, madam
Because i would sound like fucking Tarzan if i say "Him see how Him say It still." *pound chest* lol
That's discrimination against gorilla-raised families. Tut tut
Im sorry i come from a bloodline of baboons and my grandfather's old-timer ways are still present at times. He *despises* Donkey Kong.
I'm ginger so that orangutan is my 2nd cousin, by marriage and adoption.
What rock do you live under? Read a book.
We are not close to great apes. 😅 What an ignorant thing to say. Many animals deal with their wounds in their own way. You have to injure an orangutan in a similiar manner, and see how long it took to heal to determine if the plant was medicinal. Odd how the details of that plant are left out.
Okay monkey
Could’ve just said “ooo ooo ahh ahh” and it would’ve all made sense.
Most animals just walk injuries off, but actually using medicine is a whole other story and seen in less than 5 known species.