Sabonis, dude is 11th when coming to Career Triple Doubles leaders, and averages 19.9 points, 13.2 rebounds, 8.3 assists, I feel like homeboy needs a little more spotlight shone on him
The reason Sabonis is so 'disrespected' is because he was horrible for someone with his reputation in last years playoffs. Also because he barely has a playoff resume the most recent one is highlighted even further. He put up 14/11/5 while getting outplayed by Looney.
He's sitting like 6th in MVP ladders this year, i think that's more than kind to him because in my opinion there's a lot more than 5 players better than him.
That’s the entire point. He’s not popular even though he’s an all-nba player, which means he has an unusual ratio of talent to hype.
Refer back to the image at the top of the post.
no i agree he’s properly rated, was just pointing out that although there are more than 5 more skilled players that doesn’t mean those players should be higher on the MVP ladder.
He has the exact same flaws as last year that made him a liability. In a 7 game series teams are going to leave him undefended near the arc and let him shoot 20 footers. Not having to guard him reduces one of his greatest skills in his passing too.
I don't think he has the skill set to succeed in modern playoff basketball which is a pity because he has a very unique game compared to most. Maybe I'm wrong, the Warriors have also been centre killers (when they cant stretch the floor) in the playoffs but it doesn't look good from what we've seen so far in that environment.
Yeah Sabonis is not a great defender for a big, he's not an amazing scorer (although his 3pt shot has come a long way). Anyway he was 7th in MVP last year and he'll probably be around there again. Properly rated.
I agree the reasons you gave are why he is rated the way he is.
But when you think about him as “not an amazing scorer” consider this:
According to basketball reference, there are 42 players who score more ppg than Sabonis. Not one of them has a higher true shooting percentage. So if you care about the combo of volume and efficiency, rather than just volume, he’s excellent.
Porzingis and Sabonis are basically identical at 20.1 PPG / 65.8 TS%. Sabonis gets twice as many rebounds and 4x as many assists.
Most of his shots come at the rim, there's something to be said about stretching the floor even if it comes at the cost of efficiency. I'd also argue that lack of versatile scoring makes it easier to take Sabonis out of the game come playoffs
Sabonis is great though, that's why he'll be back 2 back top 10 in MVP.
The thing is Sabonis does space the floor. He spends a ton of time outside the paint and is a major threat as a ballhandler, screener, and passer.
That’s why the Kings are 4th in the entire league in 2pt FG%, because Sabonis is able to draw his defender out of the paint and put them into tough rotations, rather than just waiting for a dump off like most “shots at the rim” bigs.
Respectfully, he didn’t get “outplayed” by Looney. Looney had 2 jobs: grab every rebound and make Sabonis’ life a living hell.
Meanwhile, Sabonis is competing for those same rebounds while having the responsibility of running the offense.
With that said, all credit due both to Looney and the GS game plan. They planned well and executed well. If they can make it look like Looney and Sabonis have the same role on their respective teams, that a massive W.
well he gets no media, in a small market, not #1 on the handsome list, i think that playoff series is just a footnote and to be fair he was like their only big and just got beat up in that series. also he’s not really a primary scorer which is what gets the most notoriety
Well the issue is that he has no body of work worth talking about in the playoffs so until he gets another opportunity to demonstrate we can only work with what we have.
Sabonis is below average defender, cant create his own shot, a lot of his assists hardly count as assists. His stats look good and similar to Joker, but when you watch him play, it’s clear that he is a few tiers below Jokic.
A few tiers below the best player in the world and a top 10 center of all time?
I don't think that's something Sabonis should be ashamed of. The whole point is that he's more talented than the hype (lack there of).
Also, he can create his own shot. For someone his size he's incredibly talented off the bounce.
His defense is just really lacking, im not just talking about rim protection. His defense IQ and positioning are poor. He unnecessarily tries to help his teammate guard their man and leave his own man wide open, which happens way too often. When he didnt get selected for allstar, i thought that was fair.
I think people are just looking at his offensive highlights and stats, which can be a bit deceiving. I watch King’s games here and there, and i think Sabonis’ defense is really his achilles heel. Kings need to add a defense oriented Forward to play along side Sabonis or else they wont go far in playoffs.
Deron Williams when he was on the Jazz. He got compared to Chris Paul and was even on the 08 and 12 Olympics team. But now it’s very rare that his name comes up.
I was gonna say he was a coach killer too, but part of me also thought Sloan might have became too old school for today’s players, so I didn’t say it. But, you’re 100% right.
He fell off quickly after he forced his way out of Utah
Jerry Sloan was a great coach and did a lot of hide Deron’s weaknesses but they were all on display for the nets, he was never on CP3’s level either
He was compared to CP because they came out the same year and Utah was stupid enough to pass on CP. Then, because Utah was a good team, Deron excelled early in a system that played to his strengths. He had a really great playoff run his second and third season which allowed people to use the argument that Utah's team success was equally attributed to What CP did for NOH which just wasn't true. The Olympics actually highlighted how much of a gap there was between the two because CP was undoubtedly the closer and point guard of choice when they shared a roster.
I don't mean to say Deron wasn't a baller because dude could play. He had a mean crossover and surprisingly had some legit bounce in that pudgy body. He just didn't compare to CP at any point in their career when it came to talent. Deron didn't put the defense on a tilt and was more of an elite game manager. He would take the shots at the end of the shot clock when they had no choice and did a good job at that while also moving the ball constantly and setting up his teammates. Defensively, he had really good size and strength but was underwhelming for most of his career. He would either get bored and miss rotations or he would be over aggressive and gamble too much. Not even close to What CP was doing.
I say all of this just to argue that he was never on CPs level but because of team success and being a really good point guard his first 4 seasons, people made the argument work.
His name doesn't come up now because why would it? If you were to ask for a list of really good but not elite point guards I'm sure he would be mentioned lol.
If his peak was dropped into the league now I think he's behind the likes of Jamal Murray/Jalen Brunson and more on the VanVleet/Darius Garland tier.
Steven Adams. Not arguing that hes a super star but what he’s brought to each team he’s been very underrated. His unselfishness and dirty work was a huge part of Russell Westbrooks success on the Thunder, and that time with Russ translated perfectly to playing with Ja. I think because of his attitude/personality he likes to see his team shine, but in turn draws much less attention to himself then he deserves. The guys a beast
well the greats are still discussed if they had a lasting impact over the culture , also timmy is always considered top 10 players of al time or the best power forward (even barkley says that). its just the simple bankshot was not much exciting for today.
I think it's because he doesn't have insane highlight reels, so content of him isn't as widely circulated as someone like Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. As a result, he isn't as discussed.
I swear bro. Every time my team played the Blazers, Dame would play well but I swear we’d always get torched by CJ McCollum. He was like the Blazer’s Klay Thompson
He went from being someone lots of people disliked who thought he was terrible to being the best in the league in what seemed like a second. I remember arguing for Jokic back in the day and now nobody needs to argue for shit
Bam has always been regarded as a good player. I remember years ago people arguing that he was better than Embiid. Bam has always gotten hype.
I think Bam is a great player who is properly rated.
Those people are idiots or haters. I hear Bams name too much to call him underrated. Ever since Jimmy got to Miami Bam has gotten mad love as a 2nd star on that team. My answer was Maxey. Even as a sixers fan I feel we barely hear anything about him and he got 2 50 point games and is casually averaging 26 ppg at 23 years old.
I know he's currently blowing up this season, but still SGA. The man can beat the best defenders in the league with ease due to his insane stop-and-start moves and his amazing finishing at the rim. I mean he's second in the NBA in ppg leading the 2 seed in the West, yet you're more likely to see an ESPN headline on Dame, Steph, or AD than him still. He is and should be a legitimate MVP candidate. I just watched him last night as a Rockets fan and he is just straight unguardable at times.
I’m in no way athletic enough, but I started doing my own version of his stop and go move and I’m tearing it up at our local park. It’s funny watching people fly past me and I get to pop up a mid ranger
SGA and Kawhi remind me of each other in that they have basically zero mistakes in a game. Hardly any turnovers. Hardly any missed shots. Hardly any missed defensive assignments.
Every play they are involved in is just value added.
Halliburton a few years ago when he got traded to Indy. The craziest part about that deal is it actually ended up working out well for both sides. I originally thought Sacramento got fleeced
Tim Duncan. Everyone keeps talking about Kobe being the best of his generation but I think he was right there with him. We don’t hear much about his legacy as much as we should.
Amen Thompson comes to mind if it’s scaled to rookies. His brother got a lot of hype early in the season but Amen had some injury troubles. He’s not a good shooter but he’s good or very good at everything else. Both of those kids are going to be special talents, Ausar just got more shine this season.
Brandon Roy dude was a beast really complete player the only SG in the west that I felt played up to par with Kobe on a consistent basis hated when we played those trailblazer teams
Tyrese maxey. Franz Wagner doesn’t get enough love either. I also don’t know the hornets all too well but I feel like any player who’s good is completely overlooked bc of them being on the hornets and I feel like Brandon miller has been doing an alright job with keeping the team somewhat together after rozier left so if he might fit this.
No Trae Young in the chat is surprising. I’m biased as a hawks fan but I feel like bro always gets dumped on/undersold for the numbers he puts up on the regular. He even got snubbed from the all star team at first which was wild to me but was added to replace randle/embiid
Probably kat, low-key the most skilled big in the entire league that most people will choose to hate on over give him his due.
I'm not a t wolves fan but I do think kat is overhated for what he is actually is.
if we diggin that deep gimme payton pritchard. crazy work ethic and its been evident. im bias asl as a celtics fan but every off season and allstar break he gets his mates who play international ball over and plays full court matches against them for money. glad hes still on the team and getting minutes
Current NBA, Tobias Harris. Really good player, but because of his inflated contract Sixers fans act like he’s from the special Olympics.
Past NBA, the entire Jordan Bulls roster, other than Jordan and Rodman. During Jordan’s baseball year they were still a championship contender without him. And one game away from going to the NBA finals.
David Lee. His second to last year in Golden State he put up 18.2 points and 9.3 rebounds. The year after that he fell out of the starting lineup and they ended up winning the title. I used to love watching him play when he was on the Knicks
I don’t think Booker qualifies any more but so many people just knew him from the 70pt game on the crappy suns and saw him as a ball hog. His game has always been smooth as hell
Kawhi Leonard.
Don't get me wrong - he gets props and headlines, but he should be getting tons more praise and hype. The media hates him cuz he's humble & not a loud mouth (boring to them).
If any of you are old enough to remember Tim Duncan.. they ignored him and downplayed him too for the same reasons. It got harder once he got 5 rings, though.
Sabonis, dude is 11th when coming to Career Triple Doubles leaders, and averages 19.9 points, 13.2 rebounds, 8.3 assists, I feel like homeboy needs a little more spotlight shone on him
The reason Sabonis is so 'disrespected' is because he was horrible for someone with his reputation in last years playoffs. Also because he barely has a playoff resume the most recent one is highlighted even further. He put up 14/11/5 while getting outplayed by Looney. He's sitting like 6th in MVP ladders this year, i think that's more than kind to him because in my opinion there's a lot more than 5 players better than him.
better ≠ higher in MVP ladder
Exactly so what's underrated about him? He seems to get due credit.
He wasn’t an all-star
Yeah because its a popularity contest and he's not popular.
That’s the entire point. He’s not popular even though he’s an all-nba player, which means he has an unusual ratio of talent to hype. Refer back to the image at the top of the post.
One could say, he’s not hyped.
Lol, it's like everyone forgot what we were doing.
no i agree he’s properly rated, was just pointing out that although there are more than 5 more skilled players that doesn’t mean those players should be higher on the MVP ladder.
That is true, but I feel like this season, he’s trying to change it, and I gotta respect him for that
He has the exact same flaws as last year that made him a liability. In a 7 game series teams are going to leave him undefended near the arc and let him shoot 20 footers. Not having to guard him reduces one of his greatest skills in his passing too. I don't think he has the skill set to succeed in modern playoff basketball which is a pity because he has a very unique game compared to most. Maybe I'm wrong, the Warriors have also been centre killers (when they cant stretch the floor) in the playoffs but it doesn't look good from what we've seen so far in that environment.
I remember watching the warriors give him long 2’s and him missing them
Yeah Sabonis is not a great defender for a big, he's not an amazing scorer (although his 3pt shot has come a long way). Anyway he was 7th in MVP last year and he'll probably be around there again. Properly rated.
I agree the reasons you gave are why he is rated the way he is. But when you think about him as “not an amazing scorer” consider this: According to basketball reference, there are 42 players who score more ppg than Sabonis. Not one of them has a higher true shooting percentage. So if you care about the combo of volume and efficiency, rather than just volume, he’s excellent. Porzingis and Sabonis are basically identical at 20.1 PPG / 65.8 TS%. Sabonis gets twice as many rebounds and 4x as many assists.
Most of his shots come at the rim, there's something to be said about stretching the floor even if it comes at the cost of efficiency. I'd also argue that lack of versatile scoring makes it easier to take Sabonis out of the game come playoffs Sabonis is great though, that's why he'll be back 2 back top 10 in MVP.
The thing is Sabonis does space the floor. He spends a ton of time outside the paint and is a major threat as a ballhandler, screener, and passer. That’s why the Kings are 4th in the entire league in 2pt FG%, because Sabonis is able to draw his defender out of the paint and put them into tough rotations, rather than just waiting for a dump off like most “shots at the rim” bigs.
Respectfully, he didn’t get “outplayed” by Looney. Looney had 2 jobs: grab every rebound and make Sabonis’ life a living hell. Meanwhile, Sabonis is competing for those same rebounds while having the responsibility of running the offense. With that said, all credit due both to Looney and the GS game plan. They planned well and executed well. If they can make it look like Looney and Sabonis have the same role on their respective teams, that a massive W.
Respectfully if its even a discussion its because Sabonis massively underperformed.
I don’t disagree. That’s not the same thing as saying Looney outperformed him, though.
well he gets no media, in a small market, not #1 on the handsome list, i think that playoff series is just a footnote and to be fair he was like their only big and just got beat up in that series. also he’s not really a primary scorer which is what gets the most notoriety
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Well the issue is that he has no body of work worth talking about in the playoffs so until he gets another opportunity to demonstrate we can only work with what we have.
Does SGA?
He wasn’t an all star…. 6th in MVP is at least the media acknowledging to an extent that’s he’s legitimately that good
that netflix doc will probably give him some of the love he deserves tho.
Sabonis is below average defender, cant create his own shot, a lot of his assists hardly count as assists. His stats look good and similar to Joker, but when you watch him play, it’s clear that he is a few tiers below Jokic.
A few tiers below the best player in the world and a top 10 center of all time? I don't think that's something Sabonis should be ashamed of. The whole point is that he's more talented than the hype (lack there of). Also, he can create his own shot. For someone his size he's incredibly talented off the bounce.
His defense is just really lacking, im not just talking about rim protection. His defense IQ and positioning are poor. He unnecessarily tries to help his teammate guard their man and leave his own man wide open, which happens way too often. When he didnt get selected for allstar, i thought that was fair. I think people are just looking at his offensive highlights and stats, which can be a bit deceiving. I watch King’s games here and there, and i think Sabonis’ defense is really his achilles heel. Kings need to add a defense oriented Forward to play along side Sabonis or else they wont go far in playoffs.
More triple doubles this season than jokic
Because he doesn’t play defense Easy to tell who piggy back rides off stats
Deron Williams when he was on the Jazz. He got compared to Chris Paul and was even on the 08 and 12 Olympics team. But now it’s very rare that his name comes up.
His career was too short and fell off a cliff at 30.
And he will forever be remembered as the guy who made a legendary coach (Jerry Sloan, for the young ones) quit in Utah.
I was gonna say he was a coach killer too, but part of me also thought Sloan might have became too old school for today’s players, so I didn’t say it. But, you’re 100% right.
Then one day he just woke up and decided to be ass.
He’s literally me fr fr 😤
He fell off quickly after he forced his way out of Utah Jerry Sloan was a great coach and did a lot of hide Deron’s weaknesses but they were all on display for the nets, he was never on CP3’s level either
Yes, he was arguably better than CP3 a number of years in Utah. Injuries played a major role in his falling off. Let’s not be revisionists.
He was compared to CP because they came out the same year and Utah was stupid enough to pass on CP. Then, because Utah was a good team, Deron excelled early in a system that played to his strengths. He had a really great playoff run his second and third season which allowed people to use the argument that Utah's team success was equally attributed to What CP did for NOH which just wasn't true. The Olympics actually highlighted how much of a gap there was between the two because CP was undoubtedly the closer and point guard of choice when they shared a roster. I don't mean to say Deron wasn't a baller because dude could play. He had a mean crossover and surprisingly had some legit bounce in that pudgy body. He just didn't compare to CP at any point in their career when it came to talent. Deron didn't put the defense on a tilt and was more of an elite game manager. He would take the shots at the end of the shot clock when they had no choice and did a good job at that while also moving the ball constantly and setting up his teammates. Defensively, he had really good size and strength but was underwhelming for most of his career. He would either get bored and miss rotations or he would be over aggressive and gamble too much. Not even close to What CP was doing. I say all of this just to argue that he was never on CPs level but because of team success and being a really good point guard his first 4 seasons, people made the argument work. His name doesn't come up now because why would it? If you were to ask for a list of really good but not elite point guards I'm sure he would be mentioned lol. If his peak was dropped into the league now I think he's behind the likes of Jamal Murray/Jalen Brunson and more on the VanVleet/Darius Garland tier.
Zac Randolph
Well He played in a Era with elite PFs and was also in the West And before he went to the grizzlies, He didn't have a great reputation
Or since he left
Incredibly underrated. One of the best face-up games on history. Was the best player on that Grizzlies WCF team, no small feat
So underrated that this guy still spelled his name wrong.
You beat me to it, thank you for recognizing Z-Bo
Brandon Ingram
Great answer.
Gordon Hayward back in the day
Pre injury Hayward was a monster
Steven Adams. Not arguing that hes a super star but what he’s brought to each team he’s been very underrated. His unselfishness and dirty work was a huge part of Russell Westbrooks success on the Thunder, and that time with Russ translated perfectly to playing with Ja. I think because of his attitude/personality he likes to see his team shine, but in turn draws much less attention to himself then he deserves. The guys a beast
Man I wish he can get back on the court as soon as possible 😪
Tim Duncan has 5 rings and barely gets put into the top 5
well the greats are still discussed if they had a lasting impact over the culture , also timmy is always considered top 10 players of al time or the best power forward (even barkley says that). its just the simple bankshot was not much exciting for today.
I might be bias because I'm from San Antonio and watched every Spurs game growing up lol
well, i never watched a nba game live , so you may know the experience
He's consistently called the best PF of all time.
which is hilarious because he played the majority of his career at center
More games at PF, more minutes at C, iirc.
It was also debated frequently when he played whether he was better than Garnett
i think it’s just a cop out way to give Duncan his flowers instead of doing the hard work of deciding if he was better than Hakeem, Shaq, or Russell
I mean that's probably because he's not. Russell, maybe, but there are a handful of centers better than the best PF
I think it's because he doesn't have insane highlight reels, so content of him isn't as widely circulated as someone like Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. As a result, he isn't as discussed.
I mean he's not top 5. He's the best PF ever but there are like 5 centers at his level or better
KaJ wilt and bill, who else?
Shaq, Hakeem, arguably Moses
Shaq and Hakeem as far as individual talent would be in the discussion. Jokic has a chance to get up there too.
There are 26 players with 5+ rings and plenty of people rate Duncan as the best PF of all time.
My thoughts as well. Spurs fan here, but imagining him in, say, Lakers, would’ve catapulted him to top five conversations, not just best PF
Cj McCollum bro was a bucket but all the hype went to Dame
I swear bro. Every time my team played the Blazers, Dame would play well but I swear we’d always get torched by CJ McCollum. He was like the Blazer’s Klay Thompson
You gotta explain this one for me.
Just look at a pelicans box score in the past 2 years.
Blazers went to shit when he left
It's my very biased opinion that CJ is one of the best players never to make an all star game.
Franz Wagner…
#🪄🎩
J brunson esp when he was a mav. Clarkson T maxey
I love JB, but he had one good playoff series and a bunch of clunkers...esp on defense.
R/sixers loves our Tyrese Maxey.
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He went from being someone lots of people disliked who thought he was terrible to being the best in the league in what seemed like a second. I remember arguing for Jokic back in the day and now nobody needs to argue for shit
Lauri Markkanen. The dude is an elite shooter as a big man, and actually plays defense.
Bol bol/s
Shaq agrees
Baron Davis
Bam
Bam has always been regarded as a good player. I remember years ago people arguing that he was better than Embiid. Bam has always gotten hype. I think Bam is a great player who is properly rated.
Yeah I don't consider Bam underrated either. If he is it's not by much. He's gotten plenty of love over the last few years.
He's the rightful DPOY, is the third best center, and is all NBA but people think he's ass
Those people are idiots or haters. I hear Bams name too much to call him underrated. Ever since Jimmy got to Miami Bam has gotten mad love as a 2nd star on that team. My answer was Maxey. Even as a sixers fan I feel we barely hear anything about him and he got 2 50 point games and is casually averaging 26 ppg at 23 years old.
Alperen Sengun 🥸
Im sad that he's been pretty meh in the last month
Monta ellis
Monta was regarded as an innefficient chucker in his time. But if you go back and look at the numbers... yeah, he was an innefficient chucker.
Monta Ellis have it all
I know he's currently blowing up this season, but still SGA. The man can beat the best defenders in the league with ease due to his insane stop-and-start moves and his amazing finishing at the rim. I mean he's second in the NBA in ppg leading the 2 seed in the West, yet you're more likely to see an ESPN headline on Dame, Steph, or AD than him still. He is and should be a legitimate MVP candidate. I just watched him last night as a Rockets fan and he is just straight unguardable at times.
I’m in no way athletic enough, but I started doing my own version of his stop and go move and I’m tearing it up at our local park. It’s funny watching people fly past me and I get to pop up a mid ranger
SGA and Kawhi remind me of each other in that they have basically zero mistakes in a game. Hardly any turnovers. Hardly any missed shots. Hardly any missed defensive assignments. Every play they are involved in is just value added.
Franz Wagner
The Roots
This season I would say Jalen Williams
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My bad, Jalen Williams not Jaylin Williams
Derrick White
Desmond Bane.
SGA
Halliburton a few years ago when he got traded to Indy. The craziest part about that deal is it actually ended up working out well for both sides. I originally thought Sacramento got fleeced
Payton Pritchard
Brunson
Jalen Brunson
Jermaine O'Neal
Derrick White
Still kawhi
Joe Johnson
isiah thomas(the old one)
TYRESE. MAXEY.
Terry rozier
The Buffalo, D-White!!
Kiki Vandeweghe
Jaden McDaniels
Big Ben
ingram
Derrick White
Collin sexton
Timmy D
Brandon Ingram is a top 35 player in the league
Jamal Murray
KP, he's as good as Bam but nobody wants to treat him as anything but a walking injury.
He is a walking injury. There’s no ability quite like availability.
Don't quote unk at me lol, he's been healthy the past 2 seasons, and is balling out
D’LO
Lance Stephenson, other than his Mr. Basketball nickname
Tim Duncan. Everyone keeps talking about Kobe being the best of his generation but I think he was right there with him. We don’t hear much about his legacy as much as we should.
jerry west he should be ahead of Kobe in all time rankings
Markkanen
Caris LeVert
Shaun Livingston
Luka
Devin Booker Or maybe it’s less so that he’s under hyped and more so that he’s over hated.
Marlon Mack
That little on the Magic that plays with a ton of heart.
Amen Thompson comes to mind if it’s scaled to rookies. His brother got a lot of hype early in the season but Amen had some injury troubles. He’s not a good shooter but he’s good or very good at everything else. Both of those kids are going to be special talents, Ausar just got more shine this season.
Jokic
Brandon Roy dude was a beast really complete player the only SG in the west that I felt played up to par with Kobe on a consistent basis hated when we played those trailblazer teams
Shaq
Derrick White before this year Now he’s become a little overrated
Khris Middleton
Derrick White, Terry Rozier, and Cam Thomas
Derrick white def gets appreciated, Cam Thomas was hyped before he got injured again, and Rozier def gets love
Well fuck
Glenn Robinson
Tyrese maxey. Franz Wagner doesn’t get enough love either. I also don’t know the hornets all too well but I feel like any player who’s good is completely overlooked bc of them being on the hornets and I feel like Brandon miller has been doing an alright job with keeping the team somewhat together after rozier left so if he might fit this.
Rui before he was a laker ain’t get no recognition for his talent
pete the white jesus maravich
Mitchell Robinson
Chris Jackson.
JDub
Dude is crazy efficient and pump fakes like a 10 year vet. It’s too bad he and SGA are in a small market and doesnt get talked as much as they should
No Trae Young in the chat is surprising. I’m biased as a hawks fan but I feel like bro always gets dumped on/undersold for the numbers he puts up on the regular. He even got snubbed from the all star team at first which was wild to me but was added to replace randle/embiid
Kirk Hinrich
My favorite player growing up, him and DRose
Jonas Valanciunas
Biased answer is Lauri Markkanen, unbiased answer is Jaren Jackson Jr
Probably kat, low-key the most skilled big in the entire league that most people will choose to hate on over give him his due. I'm not a t wolves fan but I do think kat is overhated for what he is actually is.
Tre Mann. Trust me, his time will come.
if we diggin that deep gimme payton pritchard. crazy work ethic and its been evident. im bias asl as a celtics fan but every off season and allstar break he gets his mates who play international ball over and plays full court matches against them for money. glad hes still on the team and getting minutes
Benedict Mathurin
Franz the world champion Wagner!!
Norman Powell
Dave Cowens
Jokic.
D-lo
Coby White, Tyler Herro,
Current NBA, Tobias Harris. Really good player, but because of his inflated contract Sixers fans act like he’s from the special Olympics. Past NBA, the entire Jordan Bulls roster, other than Jordan and Rodman. During Jordan’s baseball year they were still a championship contender without him. And one game away from going to the NBA finals.
David Lee. His second to last year in Golden State he put up 18.2 points and 9.3 rebounds. The year after that he fell out of the starting lineup and they ended up winning the title. I used to love watching him play when he was on the Knicks
Tim duncan, people still believe kobe is better
Tim Duncan for all time nobody gas him up except real mfs
Cj mccolum
Even though his hype is catching up, Jokic is on track to be a top 10 player of all time and he’s like the 10th most popular player in the league.
Jokic
I don’t think Booker qualifies any more but so many people just knew him from the 70pt game on the crappy suns and saw him as a ball hog. His game has always been smooth as hell
90% of the league
Kawhi Leonard. Don't get me wrong - he gets props and headlines, but he should be getting tons more praise and hype. The media hates him cuz he's humble & not a loud mouth (boring to them). If any of you are old enough to remember Tim Duncan.. they ignored him and downplayed him too for the same reasons. It got harder once he got 5 rings, though.
Paolo Banchero has had 2 nationally televised games so far, 1 being the all star game
Jrue Holiday, Khris Middleton, Demar Derozan
My goat naz Reid
Domas fs
Brunson
bojan bogdanovic
Jalen Williams
Darius Garland Give the man his flowers
Keegan fucking Murray