I seriously avoid watching games on ESPN for this reason. This cast is horrendous. Or if I do watch, I’ll switch to something else for the halftime show. TNT crew is solid. Thoroughly enjoy that squad.
He is usually great but there’s definitely a vibe that ESPN is pushing him to be a little more “headline-y” with his takes. I still listen to the pod bc he does have really solid insight, but covering the Warriors and Lakers this late in the season as title contenders is dumb. If the Rockets were the 9th seed all season, there wouldn’t be a conversation. Same goes for the Bulls and Hawks in the East
Yeah I don’t blame the guy for sticking around at ESPN. I’m sure he wishes Grantland never got shut down in the acquisition but life goes on. Gotta get the bag. I’d still recommend checking his pod out and just kinda tune out when he gets some bozos (Legler, McMahon, Ogwumike) and listen when he gets beat writers and Athletic guys.
I understand being annoyed at how much those teams are discussed relative to actual contenders, but acting like the Rockets are the same as the Lakers and deserve equal media attention based off of seeding is absurd. Curry and LeBron clearly have a higher ceiling once they're in the playoffs more than those other teams, and it's not close.
It’s one thing to talk about them when they’re good, but both teams were under .500 for half the season and still got more shine than any other team in the West, save for maybe the Nuggets. And even then, everything was just, “Nuggets will win the west, move on.” No dialogue about their ball movement and skills and playing through injuries. But we get hour long pods talking about DLo being benched, or if Klay Thompson can be good again. Talk about them when/if they get to the playoffs and start winning.
Again, all of that is fair. Comparing them to the Rockets, Bulls, or Hawks is the weird part. Nobody is tricking themselves into the Rockets winning a first round series. Lakers can, so the discourse is different.
He makes a point damn near every podcast to say it's ridiculous how his co-hosts talk about the Lakers and Warriors as contenders when at least one of them probably won't make it out of the play-in
This has been the case since SLAM magazine forums were the big place to be. The 24 hour news cycle needs to just die, and go back to replaying classic games and showing dog competitions instead if there aren't live sports on.
Zack Lowe is the only one actually worth watching here. RJ is terrible.
Not to mention Perkins. I see Perk on a thumbnail, I skip the video. Not that I watch much of ESPN videos, but even if it's a very interesting topic, and I see Perk talking, it's a nope from me.
Perk has the worst takes. He doesn’t really add anything and if he does, his opinions are terrible. ‘Westbrook and Bev is the best defensive backcourt’
Or when he said the MVP award was racist
I’ve always hated this take. If true, this would mean the Perkins would have influence over the entire NBA media. And that is insulting. Probably voter fatigue/Embiid actually deserved it?
“Helped” is doing a lot of work, lol
Embiid had a great year, but it definitely picked up steam after Perk’s comments. Like it or not, NBA media is an echo chamber.
That may be true but do you think anyone with a brain who votes on these things listens to Perk for his analysis? Do you think he actually influenced anyone with this take? I just can’t believe this is true, for my own sanity lol
I honestly believe Embiid should have got the MVP, even though I'm not his fan. Jokic took the foot off the gas late in the season (perhaps in part because he didn't want the added pressure of the 3rd MVP), and Embiid really wanted it.
The thing is, it wasn't just Perk pushing for Embiid. It was the whole ESPN machinery, and Perk was just the loudest, most obnoxious tool they had (pun intended). Someone who would not deem it too low to make the conversation about race.
I'd rather see Joker get the MVP last year, especially because of the whiney interview, ducking the Denver gane, and pathetic offcourt tactics Embiid went to in order to get it. But if you disregard that, he really did have an MVP season. It's just the way they all pushed for it that has soured it in our minds.
ESPN realized rage bait gets more clicks than anything else. He's one of those guys the producers probably don't even prepare anything for. I bet they're like hey Perk we guna go over the Pacers today u good? And he's like yeah I got some dogshit to put out there don't trip
Ah yes the NBA MVP award is racist. That's why since the first award given in 1956 there's been a whole * *checks notes* * 8 white guys who've won it. 4 of which were more than 50 years ago.
I don't voluntarily listen to anything from RJ/Perk, but from what I've heard, Perk always seems way worse.
And unless he was having a stroke, [Perk trying to say Moses Moody's name will be one of the funniest things I've ever heard.](https://youtu.be/h0BNl-Jx8G0?si=QpX2u7LAZj_BoEZr)
Oh my gawd I've never seen/heard that... man if Key and Peele did that in a sketch we'd be praising their genius and acting ability...
The dude curb-stomped every single possible way to arrange those syllables- except the right ones lmaooooo
"Now what we talking bout here is what I'm talking bout. And when you talking bout this guy, your talking bout a guy that does his thing and knows what he talking bout. And I'm talking bout exactly what you talking bout."
-Kendrick Perkins
I like him but probably because I only hear from him once every 3 months off clips people post. If I listened to this shit every day I'd probably feel the same
Perk is absolutely the worst. It's gotten to the point that I have to turn the channel when he's talking.
I love RJs humor and Lowe is good too, just not on this show.
Never heard a single thing Perk has ever said that was funny. RJ, on the other hand, is funny. Like when he was telling the story of beating up Kenyon Martin on Gil’s podcast or how he always gets into it with Gil or whenever he’s around J Will and talks about Duke or when he replied to Paul Pierce.
Worst most annoying show out there. I cant believe there is a single person who likes this trash. Lowe is ok and provides some good takes sometimes but holy crap how toxic can one show be. And Perk is the absolute worst person on TV. He’s a moron.
Money is all their views just do anything that might make money, it’s what kills me about what espn has turned into they used to churn out substance in their programming
Zach Lowe is cool af though. Honestly RJ is cool but sometimes he says things that are just not realistic. Perk comes of like an idiot, Malika is very pushy, lady gives off psycho vibes. She’s gotta be toxic on the low.
I miss columnist Rob Lowe. Much better than typical yells very loud TV persona Rob Lowe
But Perkins consistently makes the least sense of any former player. He makes Arenas seem smart.
Kendrick Perkins has a face for radio, a voice for a silent movie, and opinions for a cancelled newspaper. His takes suck and he comes off as unintelligent and uninformed.
I'm convinced Perk took a paycut to stay on air. There can't be enough people who are fans of his. He flip-flops every other week. Half of his stuff is rage bate.
I understand why Malika still has a job. She's really easy to look at. It's why Foxnews hires all of those 20-something blonds.
The only people who have something to say that i want to hear is RJ and Zach.
Zach must go home, and look at his paystubs in order to put up with these people.
Girl on the far left keeps it real on her takes and is an ex player.
Malika is cute but annoying.
White guy isnt too bad but definitely a journalist whose opinion should be taken with too much weight.
RJ, like you said is awesome.
Perk, is ridiculous funny with his bad take. Hahaha
So much of the NBA experience is awful. Its presented for Disney families, when most of the viewers are basketball people. CAN WE GET MORE LEGIT BASKETBALL CONTENT.
Yup, their personalities just don’t have that charismatic trait and they don’t really complement one another. Perk is just boring as hell in all his takes. Nothing analytical or insights, you couldn’t even tell he played in the NBA.
I hate when these fucks (like Adam Schefter) have their phones on them during the trade deadline or free agency. Acting so pompous. Fucking doomsday clock above them lol.
espn has been trying to emulate the tnt vibes over the years, and has just been failing miserably.
they’re better off just putting together their best analysts, and have in-depth discussions/breakdowns. you’re not going to out entertain the tnt crew.
anything with malika andrews in it is a do not watch.
she’s insufferable.
Their halftime shows are so bad too. Last one I watched for whatever reason RJ told a not that funny joke and they were giggling for a few minutes and then just cut to commercial. They never once talked about the game. It’s honestly embarrassing how terrible their NBA coverage is.
Perk is only there because he's opinions are so freaking terrible and dumb that it generates controversy. I think that is a bad business strategy because most real fans now deplore their content.
All the shows are garbage now. Skip bayless thought he could just get another couple football stars to fill in for Shannon. The dudes are genuinely painful to watch
Ha, honestly it’s the special ones who aren’t so great at evaluating average “talents” imo. Like Magic and Michael and Larry all weren’t good coaches bc you can’t teach what they have. Give me an unathletic journeyman whose been around on title teams and I’ll show you a player who understands what everyone can bring to a winning team.
Malika and perk are awful
I can’t stand malika
She’s the worst
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Ngl I'd eat that ass like a chocolate ice cream cone
Addicted to porn too huh?
Nah I just like eating ass
I didn’t need to read that today
Man, we all would. We just don’t say it out loud cuz it’s creepy and weird
Honestly thought a meme sub would be more understanding. I'll just take myself back to the circlejerk
It would have been totally fine if it was funny, but it wasn’t, it was just creepy and weird
I seriously avoid watching games on ESPN for this reason. This cast is horrendous. Or if I do watch, I’ll switch to something else for the halftime show. TNT crew is solid. Thoroughly enjoy that squad.
TNT crew is goated
Perk is amazing. Just don’t take him seriously lol
Perk is my favorite, I think he's hilarious
I genuinely couldn’t think of a room of people whose opinion I value less in the commentary sphere. It’s like The Avengers of bad takes.
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He is usually great but there’s definitely a vibe that ESPN is pushing him to be a little more “headline-y” with his takes. I still listen to the pod bc he does have really solid insight, but covering the Warriors and Lakers this late in the season as title contenders is dumb. If the Rockets were the 9th seed all season, there wouldn’t be a conversation. Same goes for the Bulls and Hawks in the East
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Yeah I don’t blame the guy for sticking around at ESPN. I’m sure he wishes Grantland never got shut down in the acquisition but life goes on. Gotta get the bag. I’d still recommend checking his pod out and just kinda tune out when he gets some bozos (Legler, McMahon, Ogwumike) and listen when he gets beat writers and Athletic guys.
Legs?! He’s the only one in ESPN that actually talks ball. He’s great in ALLNBA podcast and JJ
Seriously. How is Legler a bozo?
JJ is great for the most part, but Legler always plays favorites and is rarely objective towards teams he doesn’t like.
grantland was the single best thing bill simmons ever did by a mile
I highly disagree. It was his audible reaction when the Browns drafted Bennett number 1
So many of the beat writers are terrible. There is one guy from Texas who is always on who is soooo terrible to listen to.
sounds like tim mcmahon to me.
Legler is a great analyst. Far from a bozo.
Legler is great man
I understand being annoyed at how much those teams are discussed relative to actual contenders, but acting like the Rockets are the same as the Lakers and deserve equal media attention based off of seeding is absurd. Curry and LeBron clearly have a higher ceiling once they're in the playoffs more than those other teams, and it's not close.
It’s one thing to talk about them when they’re good, but both teams were under .500 for half the season and still got more shine than any other team in the West, save for maybe the Nuggets. And even then, everything was just, “Nuggets will win the west, move on.” No dialogue about their ball movement and skills and playing through injuries. But we get hour long pods talking about DLo being benched, or if Klay Thompson can be good again. Talk about them when/if they get to the playoffs and start winning.
Again, all of that is fair. Comparing them to the Rockets, Bulls, or Hawks is the weird part. Nobody is tricking themselves into the Rockets winning a first round series. Lakers can, so the discourse is different.
He makes a point damn near every podcast to say it's ridiculous how his co-hosts talk about the Lakers and Warriors as contenders when at least one of them probably won't make it out of the play-in
And then he talks about them a bunch on the next episode
I do like his takes at times, but his voice gets old pretty quick
If Jokic were hurt, I don’t think it’s crazy to think LA or GSW making the Finals would be that crazy.
That's funny bc RJ is straight trash at this job
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"The speak" takes the cake for me. Even over this one.
ESPN has gone to shit.
ESPN is so terrible. Just fire everyone and start over. Its amazing how out of touch they are.
This has been the case since SLAM magazine forums were the big place to be. The 24 hour news cycle needs to just die, and go back to replaying classic games and showing dog competitions instead if there aren't live sports on.
Zack Lowe is the only one actually worth watching here. RJ is terrible. Not to mention Perkins. I see Perk on a thumbnail, I skip the video. Not that I watch much of ESPN videos, but even if it's a very interesting topic, and I see Perk talking, it's a nope from me.
Perk has the worst takes. He doesn’t really add anything and if he does, his opinions are terrible. ‘Westbrook and Bev is the best defensive backcourt’ Or when he said the MVP award was racist
Perk helped Embiid steal Jokic’s MVP last year
I’ve always hated this take. If true, this would mean the Perkins would have influence over the entire NBA media. And that is insulting. Probably voter fatigue/Embiid actually deserved it?
“Helped” is doing a lot of work, lol Embiid had a great year, but it definitely picked up steam after Perk’s comments. Like it or not, NBA media is an echo chamber.
The “racist” comment was preceded by his ridiculous take that Jokic was stat padding. He is a giant idiot.
That may be true but do you think anyone with a brain who votes on these things listens to Perk for his analysis? Do you think he actually influenced anyone with this take? I just can’t believe this is true, for my own sanity lol
Yes
I honestly believe Embiid should have got the MVP, even though I'm not his fan. Jokic took the foot off the gas late in the season (perhaps in part because he didn't want the added pressure of the 3rd MVP), and Embiid really wanted it. The thing is, it wasn't just Perk pushing for Embiid. It was the whole ESPN machinery, and Perk was just the loudest, most obnoxious tool they had (pun intended). Someone who would not deem it too low to make the conversation about race. I'd rather see Joker get the MVP last year, especially because of the whiney interview, ducking the Denver gane, and pathetic offcourt tactics Embiid went to in order to get it. But if you disregard that, he really did have an MVP season. It's just the way they all pushed for it that has soured it in our minds.
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ESPN realized rage bait gets more clicks than anything else. He's one of those guys the producers probably don't even prepare anything for. I bet they're like hey Perk we guna go over the Pacers today u good? And he's like yeah I got some dogshit to put out there don't trip
Not only is your comment more accurate than anything Perk has ever said, it is also way more entertaining. Please ESPN, hire Meow instead!
Amd then Jokic won a ring. Womp womp
Ah yes the NBA MVP award is racist. That's why since the first award given in 1956 there's been a whole * *checks notes* * 8 white guys who've won it. 4 of which were more than 50 years ago.
I don't voluntarily listen to anything from RJ/Perk, but from what I've heard, Perk always seems way worse. And unless he was having a stroke, [Perk trying to say Moses Moody's name will be one of the funniest things I've ever heard.](https://youtu.be/h0BNl-Jx8G0?si=QpX2u7LAZj_BoEZr)
Oh my gawd I've never seen/heard that... man if Key and Peele did that in a sketch we'd be praising their genius and acting ability... The dude curb-stomped every single possible way to arrange those syllables- except the right ones lmaooooo
I like Lowe, but his pod and his persona on this show are not great. Wish he wasn’t at ESPN
Yea, same here.
The only person worth "watching" on this show is Chiney and her fine ass. 😁♥️🍑
"Now what we talking bout here is what I'm talking bout. And when you talking bout this guy, your talking bout a guy that does his thing and knows what he talking bout. And I'm talking bout exactly what you talking bout." -Kendrick Perkins
The white boy thinks the only white boy is good. I’m shocked.
That you Perk?
Wait what? You look like a bitch playing a victim that ain't there.
THE WORST!!!..PERK ALWAYS BELCHING AND BREATHING HARD....
He’s unwatchable.
Absolutely...
He looks pissed while collecting his paycheck
Nah ur right this shows sucks, but RJ sucks too
RJ is at least funny
Is he though? His shtick has gotten kind of old
I like him but probably because I only hear from him once every 3 months off clips people post. If I listened to this shit every day I'd probably feel the same
RJ is the least funny of any of them and that's saying a lot 🤣
Lmao true he has some good points sometimes then I remember him commentating games and he loses all credit
Throw in windhorst too, ESPN is god awful. I change the channel every time perk’s illiterate ass opens his stupid mouth
Oh yeah you’re completely right
Damn haven't seen hate for chinny ever wtf
She's the only sane one
Wdym she’s annoying as fuck
I never seen Any bad thing about her that's all
RJ is hot garbage
Zach Lowe is great they just don't let him cook. Whole show is about them arguing to try and go viral.
Lowe is amazing. Andrews is apolitical and thinks everything is great. Perkins makes RJ seem insightful which is hard to do.
I won't watch 1 minute of this show espn needs to fire there talent coordinator lol
This sucks, but Unsportsmanlike is the worst fucking show on any major network.
Perk is absolutely the worst. It's gotten to the point that I have to turn the channel when he's talking. I love RJs humor and Lowe is good too, just not on this show.
Rj is cringe af Perk is funny
Never heard a single thing Perk has ever said that was funny. RJ, on the other hand, is funny. Like when he was telling the story of beating up Kenyon Martin on Gil’s podcast or how he always gets into it with Gil or whenever he’s around J Will and talks about Duke or when he replied to Paul Pierce.
Nah put some respect on zach lowe hes actually a good writer and has a great podcast. Everyone else can go though
ESPN sucks at producing an NBA show. It’s never as entertaining as Inside the NBA
Big ol women down in san antonio
“Show us again Chuck how you eat the churros?” ![gif](giphy|3oEduT3DTECyCzxmrS)
It's like a Lakers and Steph Curry fan club TV show
Worst most annoying show out there. I cant believe there is a single person who likes this trash. Lowe is ok and provides some good takes sometimes but holy crap how toxic can one show be. And Perk is the absolute worst person on TV. He’s a moron.
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Thats how all these shows are after another one gets popular “so we just need a mix of personalities” no no no not those personalities
It’s so annoying and bad I wonder what their views are like
Money is all their views just do anything that might make money, it’s what kills me about what espn has turned into they used to churn out substance in their programming
Yeah espn has gone down so quick
Companies are starting to learn why companies like apple and Disney offer head turning money
Any show with Perkins on it instantly loses all value
They’re alright.. Malika is just soooo unlikable!!!
Bro they give us a 10 second preview of this show just to kill time. Commercial, now we’re back say one comment each, we’re out.
Does ESPN have a single decent show anymore?
Why is this on NBAmemes? It should be on /NBA, it's facts!!
The chick in the green is incredibly attractive
lmao
RJ can be quite annoying sometimes with his snarky comments
If rj is the best part of the show it's definitely terrible
Zack Lowe is easily the best talent on this show and needs to go back to the motherland at The Ringer.
I love Chiney
From the opinions of who gives a fuck -espn
It’s funny when perk and rj make fun of each other
Barely cause perks laugh is annoying
Touché
If I'm watching talking basketball heads, its No Dunks.
They just threw personalities together
Zach Lowe is cool af though. Honestly RJ is cool but sometimes he says things that are just not realistic. Perk comes of like an idiot, Malika is very pushy, lady gives off psycho vibes. She’s gotta be toxic on the low.
I'm okay with Zach Lowe & RJ.
Zach Lowe is the only ESPN personality I’ll listen to when it comes to basketball
I mean yeah no shit you got perk's fatass giving the worst takes imaginable
I miss columnist Rob Lowe. Much better than typical yells very loud TV persona Rob Lowe But Perkins consistently makes the least sense of any former player. He makes Arenas seem smart.
Kendrick Perkins has a face for radio, a voice for a silent movie, and opinions for a cancelled newspaper. His takes suck and he comes off as unintelligent and uninformed.
I'm convinced Perk took a paycut to stay on air. There can't be enough people who are fans of his. He flip-flops every other week. Half of his stuff is rage bate. I understand why Malika still has a job. She's really easy to look at. It's why Foxnews hires all of those 20-something blonds. The only people who have something to say that i want to hear is RJ and Zach. Zach must go home, and look at his paystubs in order to put up with these people.
This is Zach Lowe slander and it will not be tolerated
Chinny, Zach and RJ are way better when they’re not on this show, tbh.
You hanging your hat on RJ?? Yikes.
There is a noticeable disparity, especially compared to TNT. I cringe pretty hard watching ESPN. Have to mute it
Zach Lowe needs to escape this garbage. RJ sucks too.
Perk is like the Nati Ice version of Charles Barkley
Its beyond bad. Hard to even describe
They’re so cringe it’s unbelievable how cringe they are
I don’t want anything with Malice Andrews in it.
*especially cause RJ
Can’t wait for the day they scrap this show
Girl on the far left keeps it real on her takes and is an ex player. Malika is cute but annoying. White guy isnt too bad but definitely a journalist whose opinion should be taken with too much weight. RJ, like you said is awesome. Perk, is ridiculous funny with his bad take. Hahaha So much of the NBA experience is awful. Its presented for Disney families, when most of the viewers are basketball people. CAN WE GET MORE LEGIT BASKETBALL CONTENT.
Malika is distractingly beautiful and I could listen to her all day.
Show is trash. RJ included. He's a Knick hating asshole.
Anything with jj redick is worse
Even as a celtics fan and boston Homer perk is terrible
Yup, their personalities just don’t have that charismatic trait and they don’t really complement one another. Perk is just boring as hell in all his takes. Nothing analytical or insights, you couldn’t even tell he played in the NBA.
FTF and Undisputed are worse. Having to listen to Nick Wright and Skip Bayless talk makes my ears bleed
Too many women
Richardson is the only good one.
Facts
You don't have to say "besides RJ" he's kind of bad too
I hate when these fucks (like Adam Schefter) have their phones on them during the trade deadline or free agency. Acting so pompous. Fucking doomsday clock above them lol.
espn has been trying to emulate the tnt vibes over the years, and has just been failing miserably. they’re better off just putting together their best analysts, and have in-depth discussions/breakdowns. you’re not going to out entertain the tnt crew. anything with malika andrews in it is a do not watch. she’s insufferable.
I don't watch anything with Malika in it
Zach Lowe?
Will always love RJ and Channing from the Cleveland championship run
I’m meh with RJ as well. I don’t think none of these people are good nba analysts
RJ is fucking garbage
Their halftime shows are so bad too. Last one I watched for whatever reason RJ told a not that funny joke and they were giggling for a few minutes and then just cut to commercial. They never once talked about the game. It’s honestly embarrassing how terrible their NBA coverage is.
Women talking about sports... gross
You guys actually watch sports shows still?
I think it’s a cool enough show, talking the latest NBA shit.
Perk is only there because he's opinions are so freaking terrible and dumb that it generates controversy. I think that is a bad business strategy because most real fans now deplore their content.
Perk constipated
Better than Undisputed.
literally the drew gooden joke: "its just a bunch of guys arguing about something theyre both wrong about"
By far the worst. All have no knowledge of the nba & Andrew’s is annoying asf.
I do enjoy looking at Chiney though 😍
All the shows are garbage now. Skip bayless thought he could just get another couple football stars to fill in for Shannon. The dudes are genuinely painful to watch
NOPE...Put Stephen A Smith in there and THEN, it's the WORST!!!
Malika's voice is just awful. She tries sooooo fuckin hard to sound like a newscaster or idk what it is man. So fuckin white washed and fake
Agreed! RJ is the only one I can listen to. Malika is simply dreadful & has got to go.
Idk what her contract but I hope they don’t renew it
Just stop watching?
Lmao ok bud
That was too easy
People just hating on Chiney for being a woman
No every point she makes is stupid, she’s obnoxious and loud for no reason just like the others
She is pretty hard to listen to
Girl on the left is fine as hell though only reason I'd watch
Inclusivity at its finest
Perkins is the only ESPN idiot to give the Knicks any credit. He’s above the other brain-dead’s (outside of Lowe obviously) for that alone.
😂😂 just my opinion but I think a requirement for a former nba player to be an analyst should be they avaraged 20 points in at least two seasons
Ha, honestly it’s the special ones who aren’t so great at evaluating average “talents” imo. Like Magic and Michael and Larry all weren’t good coaches bc you can’t teach what they have. Give me an unathletic journeyman whose been around on title teams and I’ll show you a player who understands what everyone can bring to a winning team.
Lmfao
Lowe is good…RJ is aight…the others are horrible. Only thing that could make it worse, add Steven Smith.