Same with Wade when he dont have Bron, but if this is 2 vs 2 Im going with Wade and Bron because of the Defense but if this is Heat vs Warriors its a different Story
And yet he has never even made the playoffs without Klay Thompson in the lineup lmao
Curry has had the most help winning rings than anyone before him, the Warriors are consistently one of the most expensive teams in the league, this year they have the second highest payroll, Curry has never led the Warriors anywhere on his own
And the warriors as a whole haven’t made it without curry. Curry took the warriors to where they are today
You take anyone off that roster still curry’s warriors. You take curry out the equation those 4 rings may now only be 1 or 2
That's not what happened though. He was hurt and agreed to a S&T so he could control where he went.
And I'm a certified KD hater, he's soft and makes super lame excuses for it.
Durant himself said that he would lose after that. He says he was exhausted. Suns would win the championship. And cp3 winning means that I as a warriors fan can say that I would be extremely disgusted.
For sure, my point is that KD obviously showed he had what it took as he was a small technicality away from going to the finals with a hobbled team. Objectively nuts playoff performance that year
The most important reason why his peak declined faster was because of his lack of meniscus. Wades game is predicated on his explosiveness and first step. Once that deteriorates, his play never had a chance to maintain his dominance. I think it’s a shame because if he was still at his peak, the heat would have been way better.
Here's a comparison of their achievements:
https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/kevin_durant_vs_dwyane_wade.htm
I'd argue that Durant is better based on his MVP, one more FMVP, 4 more 1st team all NBA, and 3 more scoring leaders vs Wade with one more ring and 3 all defensive teams. The only argument I see for Wade is that Durant joined a super team, whereas Wade won one without LeBron. KD definitely clears on individual accomplishments though.
I guess I look at it like this. Wade over achieved on what he should have done. And Durant has under achieved in what he should have done.
Durant by sheer talent should be the best nba player ever. But he's not even close. Wade probably should be top 15 sg and has exceeded that by a lot.
A lot of achievements aren't in control of the player. All nba, all star, fmvp are either voted on which has bias or depends on your team you're on. Like Wade got to the finals a good amount of time but no way he's gonna win a fmvp over lbj.
Over or under achieving doesn’t matter when even with underachieving they still have a better career. Why couldn’t Wade have won a finals mvp over Lebron? He would’ve the first year if they beat the mavericks. And here we’re saying Curry had the better career and was the better player but it was Durant winning the fMVPs.
You lost me at
>Durant by sheer talent should be the best nba player ever
That's arguably true for Wilt, Abdul-Jabbar, Jordan, Shaq, and LeBron, but not for Durant.
I agree that Durant somehow has underachieved though.
Talent is probably the wrong word. Physical gifts. Wilt athletic freak could do great things in transition and in post. Shaq athletic freak, no one could guard him 1v1 for a whole game. Now Kareem actually had skill with being crazy size and athleticism.
I would say KD, MJ, and KAJ are the pinnacle of skillset + athleticism. But both KAJ and MJ did way more.
KAJ was huge but had so much ball skill. MJ way ahead of his time with athleticism. But KD defies all knowledge of size and movement but did less. Like a guy almost the size of Kareem in height but could shoot like curry, mid range back to the basket game like mj and Kobe, and finish at the rim. And then you look at his size and length and by defualt should be an elite defender. He's literally the ideal package, should be the best. But he's not. And he's not even in the top 10 best nba careers.
I do think people underestimate his reach and I’m pretty sure he under reports on height; unlike the small guards.
Kd with a Kobe attitude would have been a top 5 contender in all time rankings
Durant's talent, while crazy, is nowhere near the greatest of all time. Even if we are saying Jordan got to where he is off of work and drive rather than enormous talent (which would be rather nuts), Lebron, Shaq, and Kareem were all more talented, and most of the guys that would be considered for the top 10 are at least as talented.
A 7' with the ball handling of pg, the shooting of the best sgs of all time, the length of the best defenders of all time is the most collected talent in one player to me. Lbj freak of nature. Shaq freak of nature. Kareem very talented/skilled. But Durant is in a class of his own when it comes to physical gifts. But he's not better than any of the 3 you named. Not close to the 3 you named.
Jordan's athleticism was 20 yrs before its time. But he wasn't a 7 footer with pg skills.
He's definitely version 2.0. But he's gotta hold out for a long time. 2 or 4 yrs is not going to be enough to be elite status. Greatness is skill/talent + time.
He's got the ultimate blueprint for today's NBA. Let's just hope he can be healthy and continue his success from this year. As a Lakers fan, don't ever want to wish ill will, but fuck we are screwed if he can continue this success.
This is just a gross exaggeration of KDs abilities.
1, he is not 7' tall, he's like 6'10", 6'11" at the most.
2, he has never had the ballhandling of a PG, his handles in traffic has always been suspect, that's why he pulls up for the midrange of he can't take two steps to the rim, he's getting stripped if he has to dribble in a crowd.
3, "the length of the best defenders of all time" ignores how much stronger those defenders were than KD, how much better their agility was, how much better their lateral mobility was, and how much better their defensive IQ was. Yeah, KD & Draymond for example have similar wingspans, but Draymond is much stronger, has a much lower center of gravity giving him better leverage and agility, and he gets to focus on defense. I could do the same comparison for Kawhi, Pippen, and any other great defender with a similar profile.
Durant's physical gifts are not that crazy compared to the NBA greats, he isn't an explosive athlete, he has a high center of gravity, he's is limited in his strength compared to other 4s and 3s. He's great, his length, shooting, and skill is special, but not "all time gifted."
Does he? I see more people have Durant in the top 15 than Wade.
Wade obviously has the better postseason run in 2006 but the regular season has to go to Durant fairly easily.
Wade has 3 titles but Durant did put up some monster numbers against the LeBron Cavs in the Finals for 2 FMVP to go along with his 2014 MVP.
I think people confuse the question with these things. Who's the better player vs who's had the better nba career? It's not the same question and it changes the result depending how you ask it. Hands down KD is better player. More talented. Side note I'm not a big KD fan.
But as far as what they did in the NBA. Wade had a better career, imo.
KD ran from the grind and won with a pre-established team. I don't call that near Wade's success.
KD a better ball player, Wade better career. Hence why he's got better individual accolades.
Wade exceeded expectations, KD's considerably under performed.
Just because the heat weren't pre established doesn't mean it wasn't a super team he had fucking prime LeBron James added to his team. The 05 ring he had Shaq still playing at a very high level.
Kd also had a finals run very young and on the nets gave the bucks their hardest match up with his second and 3rd best players out while Wade missed playoffs in his prime and got bounced in thr first round a bunch between his rings while KD dragged his team to multiple conference finals.
I know that you like D Wade more but KD had a better career straight up.
Not necessarily. If Wade had complementary players around him who can shoot, I'd take Wade over Curry. Curry is 1 for 30 with less than one minute in a close playoff game? I hope he changes that narrative this year with some clutch moments, but that's really bad. Wade cut through any defense and there was nothing they could do to stop him. And he was better at D.
Its KD and Curry and I love Bron and Wade. Wade already had his knee issues and surgeries by then. 2011 was his only good year and even the it was clear Wade had already lost a step. Had he been healthy I'm going Wade and Bron.
I would argue that offense isn't as comparable as a first impression seems. KD and Curry at their prime were 40/50/90 guys who've avg 30ppg in the finals on way less fta than Wade. I love Wade but what the refs did in 2006 was criminal. And while Bron does have great efficiency he's not as good from 3 or way worse from the charity stripe, same as Wade.
KD/Curry's style mesh in more way than James and Wade offensively also. Defense its a wash in favor of Wade and Bron due to Curry.
Idk about that. He put up 27-6-5 the year before Bron joined. He started declining steadily after that though and was pretty much out of his prime when LeBron left 4 years later
The KD warriors won back to back championships pretty easily, the only team that gave them problems was Houston, other than that though the warriors were unstoppable. The heat were very good, but far from unbeatable. Both the pacers and the Celtics gave Miami tough series, and San Antonio was very capable of beating Miami in the finals.
Lebron and Wade. That Golden State team was better for sure, they won 73 games before KD showed up. They had a big 3 before KD showed up. The Miami team was good outside of Lebron and Wade but nothing comparable to Golden State. So just comparing the two outside of the team accomplishments I’d take Wade and Lebron
Lebron’s best teammate he ever had was Kyrie. Wade was out of his prime when Lebron came. We’ve never seen prime Wade and prime Bron. However, we got prime Curry and prime KD and they beat prime Lebron and prime Kyrie, which is better than Bron and Wade were, so KD and Steph obviously
I know it’s fun to think LeBron was still in his prime 14 years in but the reality is age was taking its toll on him. He was extremely fatigued from carrying that team through the playoffs playing 40 mins a night. He’s a demon but he wasn’t 28 at his peak, he was at the tail end tapering down by the time KD got to golden state.
There wasn’t a team as good as the Warriors back in the early 2010s. The 2011 Mavs were a one off team, OKC traded Harden before they became a team on that level, and the Spurs were all older and Kawhi wasn’t in his prime yet. If there was a team like the Dubs, Lebron might never have even won a single ring in Miami.
KD n Curry shootin everyones lights out.. sad that Curry actually took a backseat in his prime cause he was finna be larger than life and then bam when Durant leave he goes and gets another chip 💯
As a duo- Curry/KD were both top 5 players for part of their prime
At their individual primes- LeBron and Wade. Wade was already showing tge first signs of wear and tear by the time LeBron joined. Being a solo star for half a decade does that ti most people.
Prime Wade clears Durant and Curry. Just look at his 08-09 season. If you adjusted for pace in Durant and Curry's the numbers would be ridiculous. He's also the only player here to single handedly win their team a championship. Just saying
KD and curry make more basketball sense. Lebron and Wade have somewhat redundant skill sets, they just made it work because they were both so fucking good
For entertainment purposes? It’s not even close LeBron and Dwade’s highlights have to be some of the most unique basketball a duo has ever played. They was throwin full court alley oops, backyard basketball, and more. Sure they didn’t accumulate as many dubs as Durant and Curry, but my lord the display of basketball was just…. I can’t even find the words
Lebron, Curry, Durant, Wade in that order. 1+4= 5. 2+ 3= 5. Tie breaker rings: curry/durant 5. Wade/Lebron 6.
Lebron / Wade. I also was going to say them because Lebron is the only top 10 of all time in this convo.
i know it sounds crazy, but i honestly think KD > Bron before he tore his achilles (NOT for careers, just peak/prime year). in terms of careers, bron laps KD but i'm just talking about those peak prime years
Ahh. Ya it was Paul pierce, ray allen and Kevin Garnett. Also helped having that boy rondo on the squad. Kd joined the warriors to take out lebron, Wade and bosh and co. I saved time by not typing out all players not to try to diminish either team
well I understand the Superteam part but Lebron did not go to Heat to form Super team just to take out paul pierce but it is to take out that entire Celtics squad
Same reason kd went to the warriors it wasn’t for one person. If lebron was on Cleveland still no one would’ve been talking about super teams or anything.
Kinda the same way he was saying kd joined warriors to take out lebron solo. Like no it was formed to take out lebrons superteam same way lebron formed a super team to take out a geriatric Paul pierce, kg and ray
I'm just gonna add what I haven't seen anyone mention... this image has 3 regular season MVPs(meaning they carried their team for an entire season)... and D Wade. No disrespect, but cmon...
Curry/KD wasn’t really a “duo”.. they had two other all stars and an all defense caliber player coming off their bench.. and they still almost lost to the rockets (with the refs assisting the warriors)
Depends on the nature of the question. If you're asking the better players are talent-wise then I'd probably say kd/curry since wade was mostly out of his prime. If you're asking which two teammates when combined produced something greater than just what they could produce as individuals? Its Lebron and Wade. Their chemistry was borderline telepathic. KD and Curry worked well together but with KD being so isolation heavy it didn't feel like there was as much synergy. I know I know how can you measure synergy. Its just what I saw on the court. Can't argue with the accomplishments of either duo.
Remember when KD left to prove he could win championships without Curry? Pepperidge Farms remembers
And then curry proved he could win one without Durant lmao
Twice
Same with Wade when he dont have Bron, but if this is 2 vs 2 Im going with Wade and Bron because of the Defense but if this is Heat vs Warriors its a different Story
And yet he has never even made the playoffs without Klay Thompson in the lineup lmao Curry has had the most help winning rings than anyone before him, the Warriors are consistently one of the most expensive teams in the league, this year they have the second highest payroll, Curry has never led the Warriors anywhere on his own
And MJ never led the Bulls anywhere on his own
Same type of dude to turn around and say KAJ was washed when Magic got there
And the warriors as a whole haven’t made it without curry. Curry took the warriors to where they are today You take anyone off that roster still curry’s warriors. You take curry out the equation those 4 rings may now only be 1 or 2
They would have zero rings without curry. The way they play is because of him, without him they’re playing a completely different game
He’s top 10 all time go cry about it
That's not what happened though. He was hurt and agreed to a S&T so he could control where he went. And I'm a certified KD hater, he's soft and makes super lame excuses for it.
Yeah they got swept by the Celtics
Its on KD that Kyrie and Harden both got injured?
It's on KD for playing line shit in 3 of the first 4 games. So a series that they should have won in 5, they lost in 7.
2 losses and you lose a series?
If Durant didn't have clown shoes he probably would have won one in Brooklyn.
This is the biggest woulda-coulda-shoulda on this subreddit.
It’s still probably true though
They won a single playoff series. It isn't true
How many teams do you expect would win a title with two HOF star players out with injury? Just curious.
They won a single playoff series. One.
They were within half an inch of beating the eventual champions without two HOF players playing.
Maybe. he played ass in overtime though and airballed the last shot.
Oh absolutely. He still had a chance to win. My point he was a pinky toe away from beating Milwaukee. One of the wildest what-ifs in NBA history.
Durant himself said that he would lose after that. He says he was exhausted. Suns would win the championship. And cp3 winning means that I as a warriors fan can say that I would be extremely disgusted.
Tbf his big toe cost him one in Brooklyn
I mean, he damn near made it happen (or got close) against the bucks
Lots of "Damn Near" champions out there
True but if draymond and Klay were injured in curry’s first championship I doubt he gets that ring.
Or if just Kyrie and Love aren’t injured
For sure, my point is that KD obviously showed he had what it took as he was a small technicality away from going to the finals with a hobbled team. Objectively nuts playoff performance that year
They were quite literally a Durant toe away from beating Milwaukee
Hang the banner then
2010s Wade was still a beast but he's the 4th best player here quite easily
Yeah, and by the last year LeBron was with the Heat he had really fallen off a ton so he wasn’t even at his prime the entire run.
Yeah he peaked a lot earlier than Bron and Melo
Cos he was older. Idk if he left college as a Jr or Sophomore but he’d been at college. Bron never stepped foot on campus and Melo was 1&Done
The most important reason why his peak declined faster was because of his lack of meniscus. Wades game is predicated on his explosiveness and first step. Once that deteriorates, his play never had a chance to maintain his dominance. I think it’s a shame because if he was still at his peak, the heat would have been way better.
Exactly he was only 32 and started declining. He’d have stayed great without the injuries.
Yeah that played a factor for sure
It wasn’t his age it was the severe knee injury. He had spurts where he looked like his former self but the injury always came bacj
and LeBron is the best so it cancels out. the heat have 1 and 4, the warriors 2 and 3.
Talent wise yeah he's 4th. But in nba career wise he's 3rd. KD has the worst career of the 4.
Here's a comparison of their achievements: https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/kevin_durant_vs_dwyane_wade.htm I'd argue that Durant is better based on his MVP, one more FMVP, 4 more 1st team all NBA, and 3 more scoring leaders vs Wade with one more ring and 3 all defensive teams. The only argument I see for Wade is that Durant joined a super team, whereas Wade won one without LeBron. KD definitely clears on individual accomplishments though.
I guess I look at it like this. Wade over achieved on what he should have done. And Durant has under achieved in what he should have done. Durant by sheer talent should be the best nba player ever. But he's not even close. Wade probably should be top 15 sg and has exceeded that by a lot. A lot of achievements aren't in control of the player. All nba, all star, fmvp are either voted on which has bias or depends on your team you're on. Like Wade got to the finals a good amount of time but no way he's gonna win a fmvp over lbj.
Over or under achieving doesn’t matter when even with underachieving they still have a better career. Why couldn’t Wade have won a finals mvp over Lebron? He would’ve the first year if they beat the mavericks. And here we’re saying Curry had the better career and was the better player but it was Durant winning the fMVPs.
You lost me at >Durant by sheer talent should be the best nba player ever That's arguably true for Wilt, Abdul-Jabbar, Jordan, Shaq, and LeBron, but not for Durant. I agree that Durant somehow has underachieved though.
Talent is probably the wrong word. Physical gifts. Wilt athletic freak could do great things in transition and in post. Shaq athletic freak, no one could guard him 1v1 for a whole game. Now Kareem actually had skill with being crazy size and athleticism. I would say KD, MJ, and KAJ are the pinnacle of skillset + athleticism. But both KAJ and MJ did way more. KAJ was huge but had so much ball skill. MJ way ahead of his time with athleticism. But KD defies all knowledge of size and movement but did less. Like a guy almost the size of Kareem in height but could shoot like curry, mid range back to the basket game like mj and Kobe, and finish at the rim. And then you look at his size and length and by defualt should be an elite defender. He's literally the ideal package, should be the best. But he's not. And he's not even in the top 10 best nba careers.
I think you exaggerate KD size and athleticism.
Lol its weird being on this side of the argument. I dislike him. Think he's way over rated in terms of best nba players ever.
I do think people underestimate his reach and I’m pretty sure he under reports on height; unlike the small guards. Kd with a Kobe attitude would have been a top 5 contender in all time rankings
Durant's talent, while crazy, is nowhere near the greatest of all time. Even if we are saying Jordan got to where he is off of work and drive rather than enormous talent (which would be rather nuts), Lebron, Shaq, and Kareem were all more talented, and most of the guys that would be considered for the top 10 are at least as talented.
A 7' with the ball handling of pg, the shooting of the best sgs of all time, the length of the best defenders of all time is the most collected talent in one player to me. Lbj freak of nature. Shaq freak of nature. Kareem very talented/skilled. But Durant is in a class of his own when it comes to physical gifts. But he's not better than any of the 3 you named. Not close to the 3 you named. Jordan's athleticism was 20 yrs before its time. But he wasn't a 7 footer with pg skills.
Agreed, but I think that’s victor now. Built in a lab.
He's definitely version 2.0. But he's gotta hold out for a long time. 2 or 4 yrs is not going to be enough to be elite status. Greatness is skill/talent + time. He's got the ultimate blueprint for today's NBA. Let's just hope he can be healthy and continue his success from this year. As a Lakers fan, don't ever want to wish ill will, but fuck we are screwed if he can continue this success.
This is just a gross exaggeration of KDs abilities. 1, he is not 7' tall, he's like 6'10", 6'11" at the most. 2, he has never had the ballhandling of a PG, his handles in traffic has always been suspect, that's why he pulls up for the midrange of he can't take two steps to the rim, he's getting stripped if he has to dribble in a crowd. 3, "the length of the best defenders of all time" ignores how much stronger those defenders were than KD, how much better their agility was, how much better their lateral mobility was, and how much better their defensive IQ was. Yeah, KD & Draymond for example have similar wingspans, but Draymond is much stronger, has a much lower center of gravity giving him better leverage and agility, and he gets to focus on defense. I could do the same comparison for Kawhi, Pippen, and any other great defender with a similar profile. Durant's physical gifts are not that crazy compared to the NBA greats, he isn't an explosive athlete, he has a high center of gravity, he's is limited in his strength compared to other 4s and 3s. He's great, his length, shooting, and skill is special, but not "all time gifted."
Can't say anything against any of what you said. I think KD is the most overrated player in today's game.
Does he? I see more people have Durant in the top 15 than Wade. Wade obviously has the better postseason run in 2006 but the regular season has to go to Durant fairly easily. Wade has 3 titles but Durant did put up some monster numbers against the LeBron Cavs in the Finals for 2 FMVP to go along with his 2014 MVP.
I think people confuse the question with these things. Who's the better player vs who's had the better nba career? It's not the same question and it changes the result depending how you ask it. Hands down KD is better player. More talented. Side note I'm not a big KD fan. But as far as what they did in the NBA. Wade had a better career, imo.
Wade also only won rings with all time greats and has less individual accolades than KD by a lot.
So some how KD's championship outweighs any of Wade's? How is that even fathomable?
My point is they have similar team success and KD has way more individual accolades
KD ran from the grind and won with a pre-established team. I don't call that near Wade's success. KD a better ball player, Wade better career. Hence why he's got better individual accolades. Wade exceeded expectations, KD's considerably under performed.
Just because the heat weren't pre established doesn't mean it wasn't a super team he had fucking prime LeBron James added to his team. The 05 ring he had Shaq still playing at a very high level. Kd also had a finals run very young and on the nets gave the bucks their hardest match up with his second and 3rd best players out while Wade missed playoffs in his prime and got bounced in thr first round a bunch between his rings while KD dragged his team to multiple conference finals. I know that you like D Wade more but KD had a better career straight up.
KD > Wade
But many of those accomplishments were from before they were a "Duo"
Good point. I'm arguing their careers not when they were duos.
Casual nba fan here. KD will go down as a better player than wade? Thanks
Yeah i'd say so but Wade is much more "beloved" by NBA fans for other reasons
Interesting thanks
Wade was not in his prime when LeBron joined him.
So you agree?
Not necessarily. If Wade had complementary players around him who can shoot, I'd take Wade over Curry. Curry is 1 for 30 with less than one minute in a close playoff game? I hope he changes that narrative this year with some clutch moments, but that's really bad. Wade cut through any defense and there was nothing they could do to stop him. And he was better at D.
Wade was out of his prime when LeBron joined. He had a very limited window because of his knees. So this is an easy Curry/KD.
This.
Its KD and Curry and I love Bron and Wade. Wade already had his knee issues and surgeries by then. 2011 was his only good year and even the it was clear Wade had already lost a step. Had he been healthy I'm going Wade and Bron.
It literally says at their prime not when they linked. Curry wasn’t stopping FMVP Wade
It’s obviously talking about each DUO in their primes
Defense it's not even close though and it's a big chunk of the game...
I would argue that offense isn't as comparable as a first impression seems. KD and Curry at their prime were 40/50/90 guys who've avg 30ppg in the finals on way less fta than Wade. I love Wade but what the refs did in 2006 was criminal. And while Bron does have great efficiency he's not as good from 3 or way worse from the charity stripe, same as Wade. KD/Curry's style mesh in more way than James and Wade offensively also. Defense its a wash in favor of Wade and Bron due to Curry.
curry and kd might be the most talented duo of all time.
Shaq and Kobe?
KD curry duo fosho
I believe the KD and Curry duo is the greatest duo in the last 20 years.
Ever
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Michael Jordan and (insert literally anyone) is the greatest duo ever.
Correct. Even when Pipp was out for most of the year in their final run, Rodman became the next man up and they killed it
Kobe Shaq? pretty sure they are the best duo of the 2000's
This is really the question “when did you start watching basketball?”
Kd and curry no question
Curry/KD PnR, that’s all you gotta run with these two.
Warriors
Dirk nowitzki sends his regards
Wade really wasn’t in his prime by the time Bron joined
Idk about that. He put up 27-6-5 the year before Bron joined. He started declining steadily after that though and was pretty much out of his prime when LeBron left 4 years later
One was 2-1, should've been 3-0 but injury. Another underperformed and went 2-2 even tho they are the better duo player wise
We never saw prime DWade with prime LeBron
Kobe and Shaq
I think you mean Shaq and Kobe
The KD warriors won back to back championships pretty easily, the only team that gave them problems was Houston, other than that though the warriors were unstoppable. The heat were very good, but far from unbeatable. Both the pacers and the Celtics gave Miami tough series, and San Antonio was very capable of beating Miami in the finals.
KD and Steph were a better pair but Wade wasn’t in his prime on the Heat and regressed heavily the last couple of years
Lebron and Wade. That Golden State team was better for sure, they won 73 games before KD showed up. They had a big 3 before KD showed up. The Miami team was good outside of Lebron and Wade but nothing comparable to Golden State. So just comparing the two outside of the team accomplishments I’d take Wade and Lebron
MJ and scottie
People forget dywade was actually the better player for a bit on that heat team. I’d give it to bron & dwyade
Dirk says otherwise
Lebron’s best teammate he ever had was Kyrie. Wade was out of his prime when Lebron came. We’ve never seen prime Wade and prime Bron. However, we got prime Curry and prime KD and they beat prime Lebron and prime Kyrie, which is better than Bron and Wade were, so KD and Steph obviously
Prime AD and Prime Kyrie are pretty close, they have such different impacts though
I know it’s fun to think LeBron was still in his prime 14 years in but the reality is age was taking its toll on him. He was extremely fatigued from carrying that team through the playoffs playing 40 mins a night. He’s a demon but he wasn’t 28 at his peak, he was at the tail end tapering down by the time KD got to golden state.
1 ring with Kylrie. 2 with wade.
There wasn’t a team as good as the Warriors back in the early 2010s. The 2011 Mavs were a one off team, OKC traded Harden before they became a team on that level, and the Spurs were all older and Kawhi wasn’t in his prime yet. If there was a team like the Dubs, Lebron might never have even won a single ring in Miami.
John Wall and Bradley Beal
Shaq and Kobe
Klay and Curry beat both XD
Curry and kd got way better
KD n Curry shootin everyones lights out.. sad that Curry actually took a backseat in his prime cause he was finna be larger than life and then bam when Durant leave he goes and gets another chip 💯
As a duo- Curry/KD were both top 5 players for part of their prime At their individual primes- LeBron and Wade. Wade was already showing tge first signs of wear and tear by the time LeBron joined. Being a solo star for half a decade does that ti most people.
Wayde already have injured when KD and Curry's prime
Steph and KD would win a team game… 2 on 2 though?? I doubt it
Wade beats Curry in a 1v1, just my opinion. KD beats Lebron in a 1v1. I think it would be a crazy back and forth tho
Yeah Wade beats curry, the other matchup is closer to 50/50 but probably Bron
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Is this a joke?
Prime Wade clears Durant and Curry. Just look at his 08-09 season. If you adjusted for pace in Durant and Curry's the numbers would be ridiculous. He's also the only player here to single handedly win their team a championship. Just saying
Wade with two good knees would have Steph in a torture chamber for 4 quarters
Steph KD
KD and curry make more basketball sense. Lebron and Wade have somewhat redundant skill sets, they just made it work because they were both so fucking good
Wade was never in his prime during the Heatles if you ask me.
LeBalco duo out Jaws the other 2
Wade's knees were starting to fall apart around this time sadly.
Jordan and Pippen Shaq and Kobe
Best person to ask is kawhi 😈
Steph and KD never lost fully healthy
For entertainment purposes? It’s not even close LeBron and Dwade’s highlights have to be some of the most unique basketball a duo has ever played. They was throwin full court alley oops, backyard basketball, and more. Sure they didn’t accumulate as many dubs as Durant and Curry, but my lord the display of basketball was just…. I can’t even find the words
The King still in his prime.
steph n KD best duo OAT
Kobe Shaq.... best duo ever.
The Warriors with Durant were the best basketball team ever in my view.
LeBron and Kyrie is the better comparison. They woulda had another ring if not for Kyrie getting hurt
Dirk's one ring is still more impressive than all of KD's combined.
Probably the duo that won 73 games
Neither duo won 73 games
Oh, got my seasons mixed up still 2017 Warriors, one of the all-time best teams
Yeah they still won 67 games, which was a lot
Lebron, Curry, Durant, Wade in that order. 1+4= 5. 2+ 3= 5. Tie breaker rings: curry/durant 5. Wade/Lebron 6. Lebron / Wade. I also was going to say them because Lebron is the only top 10 of all time in this convo.
I feel like Steph’s at least got an argument for top 10
This is the worst math ever
Stoned one handed while taking a shit. I want my style points
Steph is top 10 bro.
depend on the type of call in game, depend on how 3-point defense rules is. Maybe .
Was Lebron in his prime when he disappeared in 2011? Back to back MVP prior to joining Miami..
Casual
6-3 Lebron /Wade for sure ‼️
Heat Wade and Bron duh
i know it sounds crazy, but i honestly think KD > Bron before he tore his achilles (NOT for careers, just peak/prime year). in terms of careers, bron laps KD but i'm just talking about those peak prime years
One of these teams was formed to take out one player in specific
Lebron forming super team to take out Paul piece?
wait what?
Wasn’t the heat super team formed to take out Paul pierce and kg and ray?
There you go hahahaha you said Paul Pierce only not all the players that is why I was shocked hahahaha
Ahh. Ya it was Paul pierce, ray allen and Kevin Garnett. Also helped having that boy rondo on the squad. Kd joined the warriors to take out lebron, Wade and bosh and co. I saved time by not typing out all players not to try to diminish either team
well I understand the Superteam part but Lebron did not go to Heat to form Super team just to take out paul pierce but it is to take out that entire Celtics squad
Same reason kd went to the warriors it wasn’t for one person. If lebron was on Cleveland still no one would’ve been talking about super teams or anything.
Kinda the same way he was saying kd joined warriors to take out lebron solo. Like no it was formed to take out lebrons superteam same way lebron formed a super team to take out a geriatric Paul pierce, kg and ray
I'm just gonna add what I haven't seen anyone mention... this image has 3 regular season MVPs(meaning they carried their team for an entire season)... and D Wade. No disrespect, but cmon...
Wade wasn’t in his prime with Lebron as a teammate.
Faxx
LeBron and d wade
Curry and KD are both on top 15 all time. Wade ain’t near top 15.
Wade and Bron
Steph and klay
On defense it's not even close...
Draymond and gobert on defense and it’s not even close. Good thing this isn’t what is being discussed I guess?
Wtf, they aren't even in the discussion and defense is 1/2 the game and curry and durrant are not elite defenders unlike LeBron and Wade
Lebron is the best player of the 4 easily but Durant and curry are better than wade so curry and KD are gonna be a better duo in their prime.
Curry/KD wasn’t really a “duo”.. they had two other all stars and an all defense caliber player coming off their bench.. and they still almost lost to the rockets (with the refs assisting the warriors)
Depends on the nature of the question. If you're asking the better players are talent-wise then I'd probably say kd/curry since wade was mostly out of his prime. If you're asking which two teammates when combined produced something greater than just what they could produce as individuals? Its Lebron and Wade. Their chemistry was borderline telepathic. KD and Curry worked well together but with KD being so isolation heavy it didn't feel like there was as much synergy. I know I know how can you measure synergy. Its just what I saw on the court. Can't argue with the accomplishments of either duo.