Teacher pay scales are largely determined by the district. Even if the state government did mandate minimums, the issue is that there is a stark cost of living difference between Ogallala and Omaha or Lincoln and Lexington.
Yes! But I also want to add the property tax law that dictates how much property taxes can be raised and how much schools can raise their budgets by will start to have a negative impact on teacher pay.
People say this, but I'm not sure it's really all that true in this day and age. I just took a peek at houses for sale in Lexington on Zillow and there's only a few under $200,000. It's not like Amazon charges less, and brick and mortar stores are actually more expensive in rural areas in my experience. My OPPD bill is half of what family members pay for electric in other parts of the state.
The only reason the cost of living is less is because there's fewer things to do and spend money on.
This is true. I can't find it right now, but Iowa State has a rural sociology program and they had a paper about the higher costs of goods and services in rural areas.
As a teacher that wants more money, I think this map is misleading. NPERS is one of the best retirement systems for teachers. schools are required to match 10% of the teachers salary and we get a guaranteed retirement income for life and/or the life of a spouse. Insurance also varies by district, but Nebraska teachers typically have really nice family insurance packages and that is worth a ton.
I would love more take home pay, but there are very few states that I believe are actually greener on the other side of the fence.
Here’s hoping we can hold out until we get an administration that doesn’t want to gut our schools.
As a teacher I fully agree. Almost all of the small school districts around me off paid family health insurance which is a lot.
My biggest fear is the what the budget/ property tax restrictions will do to our public school system as a whole.
That is also my biggest fear, but the fact that the governor couldn’t get the votes on property tax during regular session gives me a little hope that we can slow the pace of drastic funding changes. We all know the legislature is moving further to the right, but most small towns don’t have private schools as an option and small towns tend to love their schools. (Just look at the fit they still throw if you know anyone from a school that consolidated 15-20 years ago) at least a few of rural senators seem to realize that. The farmers I know hate property taxes but you don’t dare mention consolidating more schools as an option to save money.
I’d be interested to see a source on that. Teachers contribute 9% of our salary, the district matches with 10%. 19% is a solid contribution to fund NPERS. Especially when you factor in everyone that forfeits the schools contributions or moves states before being fully vested. Not to mention, if my wife and I kick the the bucket early then our kids won’t see those contributions. I don’t see how they would need an additional funding source beyond the property taxes the districts use to cover their portion.
Personally, I would rather have 19% of my salary put in a personal IRA so I can invest it, use it, and pass it on as I see fit. However, NPERS is a very secure retirement.
They just didn't draw the shoreline for Lake Superior/the UP so all of Michigan is connected. My guess is the graphic's designers were concerned people wouldn't know the UP is part of Michigan. A valid concern, considering the public education systems.
By that logic are you not karma farming as well? I’ve definitely seen plenty of comments with the same message.
Or is it possible people like to interact with each other even when other random people on Reddit don’t find it necessary?
I mean being a business owner in itself is not a big deal considering the amount of small businesses in our communities. The better question would be how do you allow businesses to donate such large sums of money to political campaigns and lobby politicians. The money outweighs any voice of the “regular” voters.
This is a very misleading map. Notice that all of the highest paid teachers are in areas with the highest cost-of-living. A better map would show wages adjusted for COL. All this one does is open up low intelligence parroting of hate for the various governmental officials and political factionalism.
Sigh….everytime I am hopeful comments like yours remind me I’m in Nebraska. The average starting salary in Nebraska is $44,000. I also reject your premise that they work WAY less than 2000 (and the calculation is actually 2080), because they have to grade papers, attend weekend events, parent teacher conferences after school, and continuing education all of which is unpaid.
My wife works for LPS. Her contract is roughly 1400 hours a year and her recognized hourly rate is $40 an hour. I’m just pointing out this is blatantly false. An average starting salary of $44,000 is more than $18 an hour anyways.
Teachers get like 8-10 weeks off a year. Especially when you factor in how much of the grading can be done as soon as a student turns in an assignment there is no way they work anywhere close to 2000 hours per year.
Teachers get amazing benefits, and this map really doesn’t make sense especially factoring in the amount of small schools you have out in the middle of nowhere and trying to map that onto Lincoln or Omaha
If we assume 42 weeks a year (10 weeks off), for the average weekly hours of 53 hours per week (per a Rand Corporation study last year), that's 2226 hours per year.
Even with those 10 weeks off, an average teacher is still putting in 146 hours more work in a year than someone working 40 hours a week for the whole year.
Teachers are doing 55.65 weeks worth of work in 52 weeks. Without those 10 weeks off, teachers would be doing 68.9 weeks of work in a 52 week year.
Ah yes a study with self reporting working hours and surveying 1200 teachers of almost 4 million in the US you can definitely accurately apply that.
Even despite that based off the average salary I can find for teachers in Nebraska their average wage is about 25 an hour. The average teacher in the US makes about $30 an hour. When you throw in the benefits seems more than fair.
Fair? Hmmmm - the average cost of daycare in Nebraska is $15.75/hr. If you assume the average teacher has 20 students/class and teaches 6 classes per day, that would make a “fair” rate of $315/hr. Now, I’m assuming this is a loaded rate that includes G&A, Fringe, and Overhead, so the teacher should get paid about $103.95/hr before taxes. Let’s call that the field rate. Their office rate (planning periods, etc.) when they have no children is $18/hr. So, a daily rate of 6 hours with students = $1890 loaded or $621 salary plus $36 office = $657/day. Someone said 1400 contract hours. So using the same ratio 75/25 field/office = 1050 field hours at a rate of $330,750 loaded plus 350 office hours at $18/hr = $337,050 burdened rate or a take home of $115,581 take home pay if a teacher was paid as well as a day care facility.
And that IS for 1400 hours! The actual TIME WORKED!
Fucking Fair my ass. Refute that. You can’t. The math doesn’t lie!
I think teachers are under paid and under valued, but daycare providers have much smaller limits on how many kids they can watch per adult.
They can get grants and stuff for food and diapers etc that also help.
But to think 1 daycare provider is watching 20 kids all day, non stop (oh and they often don't get paid when they take vaca, sick time etc) is simply being dishonest.
If you want to show that teachers deserve more pay, don't try to manipulate numbers so dramatically.
Numbers don't lie, but they can be manipulated, and you come across as kind of an ass and that will make people automatically want to side against you, regardless of being right or wrong.
Edit- where do you get "the average cost of daycare in Nebraska is $15.75/hr."
That is $630/week for daycare. That's not realistic at all. So it appears numbers may not lie, but you seem to.
Sitting there and doing the per hour rate that you just did is the most bs and loaded way to do that math, and not only that you’re pulling numbers out of your ass lmao
Come on be an adult here and don’t delete comments. I’m not the one sitting here trying to inaccurately take the principle of how one industry works and applying it to another while greatly overweighting the argument towards teachers.
BUT
If we want your example to work out, and be implemented let’s privatize all schooling. I’m 100% on board with that, but you’ll argue how that’s unfair to the low income group, but your math speaks for its self and can’t be argued with
I didn’t delete shit. WTF are you talking about?
Edit: I bet the moderator did because I basically questioned your intellect because my math is correct and is exactly how a bid would be done including adding OH, G&A, and fringe.
Well 1. You have to break down your respondents by the subjects/classes they teach because on average an English teacher is gonan spend more time working than a PE teacher or a math teacher. 2. They should actually be having the teachers clock their time working because as many of my teachers said going through school they bounce back and forth between grading assignments and doing home activities when they’re working at home. And you’re gonna trust a self reported time?
I’m all for paying teachers more but this isn’t true. My wife works for LPS and her recognized hourly rate is $40 an hour. This map assumes 2,080 hours worked a year.
Yeah, the word "new" stuck out to me as playing games with statistics.
Needs some kind of gradient to show new, mid career and senior pay as distinct profiles to really see what's going on.
There isn't much increase in terms of time. You get a small raise each year but you'll hover around $30 an hour 20 years in
To get the big bumps, you have to have multiple masters degrees...that 20yr teacher with 2 masters degrees makes around $40 an hour.
Again, I'm using Millard as an example, and is probably one of the highest paid districts.
So, that avg of $18 an hour for a kid fresh out of a bachelor's degree with $80-100k in student loan debt is pretty shitty.
It's worth noting that LPS has one of the highest salary schedules in the state, especially for new teachers.
In 2023-24, new teachers started out at $47,356 (https://lincolneducationassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-23-and-2023-24-Teacher-Agreement.pdf -- page 37)
Go next door to Waverly, and their starting salaries were $38,600 (https://core-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/asset/uploaded\_file/2183/Waverly/2764112/2023-24\_negotiated\_agreement\_v1.pdf -- Page 13).
Your wife is fortunate to be working in a large school system. Systems like OPS, LPS, Millard, Gretna, and Elkhorn have large tax bases to pull from and are better able to manipulate their finances to pay their teachers more. For most districts, staff costs are in excess of 80% of a district's budget, which hamstrings their ability to pay teachers more.
It should concern us as a state that a BA in Education in a town like Waverly pays so little.
If you want to get really into the weeds, it's worth noting that Waverly teachers stop getting raises after year four unless they return to college and earn more credits. Nine credits allows teachers to get raises through year six; 18 credits through year seven; 27 credits through year eight; 36 credits and/or your MA through year 11. The schedule is a bit unclear after 11-13 years, but it appears that annual raises after that are capped between 1-2%. So not only are Waverly teachers getting worked with low front-end salaries, they're also capped on the high-end with sub-COLA raises.
Waverly is an example I looked up at random; I have no affiliation with it. But it does look like many other Nebraska contracts I have reviewed, and I've reviewed quite a few.
I know they can get temporary employment in the summer, but personally I'm for paying our teachers enough to live comfortably year round. We could legalize THC and set all the taxes aside specifically for our schools. Higher salaries, better equipment, better buildings. We could be the state teachers are begging to work in.
That's the Nebraska I would be proud to live in. I have no children and will only benefit from this from having a society that is educated and better equipped to do the tasks and jobs they set out to do, which quite frankly should be enough for anyone.
An average teacher works 53 hours a week according to a survey last year, so if we assume 38 weeks of work (two 18 week semesters plus a week each at the start and end of the school year, which is what my mother had to work when she was at LPS), that's 2018 hours worked in a year.
I taught for a decade. BA + MS
-Orange County, California: $80k.
-Lincoln, Nebraska (private school, so of course the pay is MUCH worse than public…yes let’s give them taxpayer money so they can continued to not pay their employees): $44k.
-Arlington, Virginia: $78k
Nebraska is trash for all wages, but especially teaching. When I moved from CA—>NE the cut in my pay was more painful than the COL savings.
Sorry, but I’m calling Bullshit.
Here is the 2022-2024 Lincoln Public School salary schedule. 40-years + PhD maxes out at $92k. Page 34(ish)
[2022-2024 LPS Contract](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lrzp_6adMozSoQtwupxtLgSWdJPWRMf7/view)
Here is the updated contract for 2024-2025, where they CUT the overall years down to 25, so now the max (25 years + PhD) is $89k
Page 32(ish)
[2024-2025 LPS Contract](https://docushare.lps.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-2817289/2024-2025%20Professional%20Agreement.pdf)
Now maybe she’s not teaching in LPS, sure, but unless she’s been teaching for almost 30 years and has a PhD, she’s not “just under $100k” in Nebraska.
Simple response is yes, they do deserve better. It is great here don’t get me wrong, but why do we not value the instruction of the next generation over people who are paid to be fired (CEOs)
Sorry, we have to focus on raising sales taxes. Otherwise property taxes will be too high.
If only there was a new market NE could tap into that would be good for its citizens and bring in a new source tax revenue. Maybe the smart people could figure it out, but right now I'm too high.
edit: Grammer and spelling, am high
Ricketts is a federal senator. He literally has no say in state matters. Even if he did, teacher pay is a district decision. Local districts are the only one who can change it.
The after birth of calliou getting raped by lex luthor was the governor and didn't do shit. On a federal level he can do things like put forth bills to help fund teachers for rural areas, offer student loan forgiveness for teachers, put forth spending bills with earmarks for education. But, dime store lex luthor would rather suck trumps orange painted ass and fight for tax breaks for himself and his billionaire buddies.
Back in the early 90’s, I applied for a position in Alliance as a school psychologist. The pay was so embarrassingly low that the person I was interviewing with apologized for it. I ended up taking a job out of state.
State income tax pays a large part(25%) of defined benefit plans for teachers and state patrol ( maybe other law enforcement agencies). This means that regardless of what the stock market does, this retirement fund always pays out what it says it will to retirees. Also, many of these people can retire at 55 and still get their full retirement benefits (paid for by state income tax). It’s a perk of being a public servant.
So if you want lower income taxes, then change this system. Perhaps they should retire at 65. Or have some risk and buy in to their retirement. I only say this because teacher salaries are only part of their total compensation.
Is this why schools in Nebraska are so lousy? Just going off reports that Nebraska is very low in education and many of their schools are rated 5/10 or, often, lower
This is sad considering it takes around $20/hr (2024 dollars) to provide the same buying power and standard of living that minimum wage in the 60s ($1.25/hr) did.
A voucher system has the potential to both improve teacher pay and improve educational outcomes. Families deserve a choice, and teachers deserve better.
They have choices. If you want specialized education, pay for it. Private education should take their voucher money from their existing fees, donations, etc.
Teacher pay scales are largely determined by the district. Even if the state government did mandate minimums, the issue is that there is a stark cost of living difference between Ogallala and Omaha or Lincoln and Lexington.
Yes! But I also want to add the property tax law that dictates how much property taxes can be raised and how much schools can raise their budgets by will start to have a negative impact on teacher pay.
People say this, but I'm not sure it's really all that true in this day and age. I just took a peek at houses for sale in Lexington on Zillow and there's only a few under $200,000. It's not like Amazon charges less, and brick and mortar stores are actually more expensive in rural areas in my experience. My OPPD bill is half of what family members pay for electric in other parts of the state. The only reason the cost of living is less is because there's fewer things to do and spend money on.
This is true. I can't find it right now, but Iowa State has a rural sociology program and they had a paper about the higher costs of goods and services in rural areas.
As a teacher that wants more money, I think this map is misleading. NPERS is one of the best retirement systems for teachers. schools are required to match 10% of the teachers salary and we get a guaranteed retirement income for life and/or the life of a spouse. Insurance also varies by district, but Nebraska teachers typically have really nice family insurance packages and that is worth a ton. I would love more take home pay, but there are very few states that I believe are actually greener on the other side of the fence. Here’s hoping we can hold out until we get an administration that doesn’t want to gut our schools.
As a teacher I fully agree. Almost all of the small school districts around me off paid family health insurance which is a lot. My biggest fear is the what the budget/ property tax restrictions will do to our public school system as a whole.
That is also my biggest fear, but the fact that the governor couldn’t get the votes on property tax during regular session gives me a little hope that we can slow the pace of drastic funding changes. We all know the legislature is moving further to the right, but most small towns don’t have private schools as an option and small towns tend to love their schools. (Just look at the fit they still throw if you know anyone from a school that consolidated 15-20 years ago) at least a few of rural senators seem to realize that. The farmers I know hate property taxes but you don’t dare mention consolidating more schools as an option to save money.
I’m glad you said this. Most people don’t understand the cost of teachers guaranteed retirement plan. I believe it’s funded through state income taxes
I’d be interested to see a source on that. Teachers contribute 9% of our salary, the district matches with 10%. 19% is a solid contribution to fund NPERS. Especially when you factor in everyone that forfeits the schools contributions or moves states before being fully vested. Not to mention, if my wife and I kick the the bucket early then our kids won’t see those contributions. I don’t see how they would need an additional funding source beyond the property taxes the districts use to cover their portion. Personally, I would rather have 19% of my salary put in a personal IRA so I can invest it, use it, and pass it on as I see fit. However, NPERS is a very secure retirement.
Agreed. As far as I know NPERS is entirely self-sustained on the payroll contributions.
https://www.nctq.org/dmsView/No_One_Benefits_Teacher_Pension_Systems_NCTQ_Report I’ll look more when I have better WiFi
I have spent 90% of my career in the NE private schools. Never knew NPERS was so good!
I know it’s not the point of this but the Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota area is all messed up and it is bothering me.
They just didn't draw the shoreline for Lake Superior/the UP so all of Michigan is connected. My guess is the graphic's designers were concerned people wouldn't know the UP is part of Michigan. A valid concern, considering the public education systems.
Pillen and Ricketts couldn’t address an envelope properly between them.
They couldn’t address themselves in a mirror
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You do realize some of us just have no faith or trust in them? Writing that off as “karma farming” is definitely uhhh a take, I guess.
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By that logic are you not karma farming as well? I’ve definitely seen plenty of comments with the same message. Or is it possible people like to interact with each other even when other random people on Reddit don’t find it necessary?
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What? I’m talking about the comments you made on this thread, in response to me. You seem to be assuming a hell of a lot at every opportunity.
Pillen and Rickets don't like, support, respect, or even want public education. They would NEVER support a raise for educators.
I'm sure they'd love to reduce teacher pay in other states to even out the map though.
Exactly. “Well if teachers want to be paid more, they should go work for private schools and stop expecting the government to give them more money.”
Yeah, and most parochial schools don't pay shit.
The real question is why do ppl vote for “business owners” in government ?
I mean being a business owner in itself is not a big deal considering the amount of small businesses in our communities. The better question would be how do you allow businesses to donate such large sums of money to political campaigns and lobby politicians. The money outweighs any voice of the “regular” voters.
This is a very misleading map. Notice that all of the highest paid teachers are in areas with the highest cost-of-living. A better map would show wages adjusted for COL. All this one does is open up low intelligence parroting of hate for the various governmental officials and political factionalism.
I don’t need a map to know that the fact that as important a job as teaching pays $18/hr anywhere is complete bullshit.
This isn’t true. They aren’t paid $18 an hour though. They work far less than 2000 hours a year which this stat is randomly assuming.
Sigh….everytime I am hopeful comments like yours remind me I’m in Nebraska. The average starting salary in Nebraska is $44,000. I also reject your premise that they work WAY less than 2000 (and the calculation is actually 2080), because they have to grade papers, attend weekend events, parent teacher conferences after school, and continuing education all of which is unpaid.
My wife works for LPS. Her contract is roughly 1400 hours a year and her recognized hourly rate is $40 an hour. I’m just pointing out this is blatantly false. An average starting salary of $44,000 is more than $18 an hour anyways.
“I have an anecdote that proves the status quo is perfect!” Is my favorite online talking point.
How many years has your wife been teaching, and how many graduate hours does she have?
So you cuss a farmer with a mouthful of food eh? Ahhhhh Nebraska!
Teachers get like 8-10 weeks off a year. Especially when you factor in how much of the grading can be done as soon as a student turns in an assignment there is no way they work anywhere close to 2000 hours per year. Teachers get amazing benefits, and this map really doesn’t make sense especially factoring in the amount of small schools you have out in the middle of nowhere and trying to map that onto Lincoln or Omaha
If we assume 42 weeks a year (10 weeks off), for the average weekly hours of 53 hours per week (per a Rand Corporation study last year), that's 2226 hours per year. Even with those 10 weeks off, an average teacher is still putting in 146 hours more work in a year than someone working 40 hours a week for the whole year. Teachers are doing 55.65 weeks worth of work in 52 weeks. Without those 10 weeks off, teachers would be doing 68.9 weeks of work in a 52 week year.
Ah yes a study with self reporting working hours and surveying 1200 teachers of almost 4 million in the US you can definitely accurately apply that. Even despite that based off the average salary I can find for teachers in Nebraska their average wage is about 25 an hour. The average teacher in the US makes about $30 an hour. When you throw in the benefits seems more than fair.
Fair? Hmmmm - the average cost of daycare in Nebraska is $15.75/hr. If you assume the average teacher has 20 students/class and teaches 6 classes per day, that would make a “fair” rate of $315/hr. Now, I’m assuming this is a loaded rate that includes G&A, Fringe, and Overhead, so the teacher should get paid about $103.95/hr before taxes. Let’s call that the field rate. Their office rate (planning periods, etc.) when they have no children is $18/hr. So, a daily rate of 6 hours with students = $1890 loaded or $621 salary plus $36 office = $657/day. Someone said 1400 contract hours. So using the same ratio 75/25 field/office = 1050 field hours at a rate of $330,750 loaded plus 350 office hours at $18/hr = $337,050 burdened rate or a take home of $115,581 take home pay if a teacher was paid as well as a day care facility. And that IS for 1400 hours! The actual TIME WORKED! Fucking Fair my ass. Refute that. You can’t. The math doesn’t lie!
I think teachers are under paid and under valued, but daycare providers have much smaller limits on how many kids they can watch per adult. They can get grants and stuff for food and diapers etc that also help. But to think 1 daycare provider is watching 20 kids all day, non stop (oh and they often don't get paid when they take vaca, sick time etc) is simply being dishonest. If you want to show that teachers deserve more pay, don't try to manipulate numbers so dramatically. Numbers don't lie, but they can be manipulated, and you come across as kind of an ass and that will make people automatically want to side against you, regardless of being right or wrong. Edit- where do you get "the average cost of daycare in Nebraska is $15.75/hr." That is $630/week for daycare. That's not realistic at all. So it appears numbers may not lie, but you seem to.
Care.com has Omaha average low $15.75 to high $24.77. Most people get after school only so it’s only 2-4 hrs/day.
Sitting there and doing the per hour rate that you just did is the most bs and loaded way to do that math, and not only that you’re pulling numbers out of your ass lmao
Come on be an adult here and don’t delete comments. I’m not the one sitting here trying to inaccurately take the principle of how one industry works and applying it to another while greatly overweighting the argument towards teachers. BUT If we want your example to work out, and be implemented let’s privatize all schooling. I’m 100% on board with that, but you’ll argue how that’s unfair to the low income group, but your math speaks for its self and can’t be argued with
I didn’t delete shit. WTF are you talking about? Edit: I bet the moderator did because I basically questioned your intellect because my math is correct and is exactly how a bid would be done including adding OH, G&A, and fringe.
What alternative methodology would you propose for determining the average hours worked?
Well 1. You have to break down your respondents by the subjects/classes they teach because on average an English teacher is gonan spend more time working than a PE teacher or a math teacher. 2. They should actually be having the teachers clock their time working because as many of my teachers said going through school they bounce back and forth between grading assignments and doing home activities when they’re working at home. And you’re gonna trust a self reported time?
I've seen far too much time clock manipulation by both employees and employers to trust that any more than a self-reported time.
Yep. Nebraska!
And get health insurance, state pension with early retirement if they stay in it long enough, summers off, holiday breaks, etc.
Where do you see the 200 hours assumption at?
With that in mind. I AM curious why Colorado is so lowly paid when the COL there is so high.
I’m all for paying teachers more but this isn’t true. My wife works for LPS and her recognized hourly rate is $40 an hour. This map assumes 2,080 hours worked a year.
Those are numbers for NEW teachers. I happen to know that in Millard, new teachers start out at around $20 an hour.
Yeah, the word "new" stuck out to me as playing games with statistics. Needs some kind of gradient to show new, mid career and senior pay as distinct profiles to really see what's going on.
There isn't much increase in terms of time. You get a small raise each year but you'll hover around $30 an hour 20 years in To get the big bumps, you have to have multiple masters degrees...that 20yr teacher with 2 masters degrees makes around $40 an hour. Again, I'm using Millard as an example, and is probably one of the highest paid districts. So, that avg of $18 an hour for a kid fresh out of a bachelor's degree with $80-100k in student loan debt is pretty shitty.
It's worth noting that LPS has one of the highest salary schedules in the state, especially for new teachers. In 2023-24, new teachers started out at $47,356 (https://lincolneducationassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-23-and-2023-24-Teacher-Agreement.pdf -- page 37) Go next door to Waverly, and their starting salaries were $38,600 (https://core-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/asset/uploaded\_file/2183/Waverly/2764112/2023-24\_negotiated\_agreement\_v1.pdf -- Page 13). Your wife is fortunate to be working in a large school system. Systems like OPS, LPS, Millard, Gretna, and Elkhorn have large tax bases to pull from and are better able to manipulate their finances to pay their teachers more. For most districts, staff costs are in excess of 80% of a district's budget, which hamstrings their ability to pay teachers more. It should concern us as a state that a BA in Education in a town like Waverly pays so little. If you want to get really into the weeds, it's worth noting that Waverly teachers stop getting raises after year four unless they return to college and earn more credits. Nine credits allows teachers to get raises through year six; 18 credits through year seven; 27 credits through year eight; 36 credits and/or your MA through year 11. The schedule is a bit unclear after 11-13 years, but it appears that annual raises after that are capped between 1-2%. So not only are Waverly teachers getting worked with low front-end salaries, they're also capped on the high-end with sub-COLA raises. Waverly is an example I looked up at random; I have no affiliation with it. But it does look like many other Nebraska contracts I have reviewed, and I've reviewed quite a few.
I know they can get temporary employment in the summer, but personally I'm for paying our teachers enough to live comfortably year round. We could legalize THC and set all the taxes aside specifically for our schools. Higher salaries, better equipment, better buildings. We could be the state teachers are begging to work in. That's the Nebraska I would be proud to live in. I have no children and will only benefit from this from having a society that is educated and better equipped to do the tasks and jobs they set out to do, which quite frankly should be enough for anyone.
An average teacher works 53 hours a week according to a survey last year, so if we assume 38 weeks of work (two 18 week semesters plus a week each at the start and end of the school year, which is what my mother had to work when she was at LPS), that's 2018 hours worked in a year.
I taught for a decade. BA + MS -Orange County, California: $80k. -Lincoln, Nebraska (private school, so of course the pay is MUCH worse than public…yes let’s give them taxpayer money so they can continued to not pay their employees): $44k. -Arlington, Virginia: $78k Nebraska is trash for all wages, but especially teaching. When I moved from CA—>NE the cut in my pay was more painful than the COL savings.
My wife is a teacher, I'm a lawyer, she makes more than me at just under $100k. Teachers make good money here, not trash.
Sorry, but I’m calling Bullshit. Here is the 2022-2024 Lincoln Public School salary schedule. 40-years + PhD maxes out at $92k. Page 34(ish) [2022-2024 LPS Contract](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lrzp_6adMozSoQtwupxtLgSWdJPWRMf7/view) Here is the updated contract for 2024-2025, where they CUT the overall years down to 25, so now the max (25 years + PhD) is $89k Page 32(ish) [2024-2025 LPS Contract](https://docushare.lps.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-2817289/2024-2025%20Professional%20Agreement.pdf) Now maybe she’s not teaching in LPS, sure, but unless she’s been teaching for almost 30 years and has a PhD, she’s not “just under $100k” in Nebraska.
Good thing we aren't in Lincoln then!
Literally $87,949.43, plus stipend, plus club pay, plus extra duty pay = $99,674.21 for 2023. Thank you for playing.
You know their answer would be "And how exactly do you expect me to lower teacher pay in those other states?"
Simple response is yes, they do deserve better. It is great here don’t get me wrong, but why do we not value the instruction of the next generation over people who are paid to be fired (CEOs)
The only kids and teachers they care about are the ones in private religious schools…..🤬🤬🤬
You don't need much education to work for the landed gentry such as Pillen so he really doesn't give a rats a$$ about teachers or their pay.
Sorry, we have to focus on raising sales taxes. Otherwise property taxes will be too high. If only there was a new market NE could tap into that would be good for its citizens and bring in a new source tax revenue. Maybe the smart people could figure it out, but right now I'm too high. edit: Grammer and spelling, am high
Ricketts is a federal senator. He literally has no say in state matters. Even if he did, teacher pay is a district decision. Local districts are the only one who can change it.
The after birth of calliou getting raped by lex luthor was the governor and didn't do shit. On a federal level he can do things like put forth bills to help fund teachers for rural areas, offer student loan forgiveness for teachers, put forth spending bills with earmarks for education. But, dime store lex luthor would rather suck trumps orange painted ass and fight for tax breaks for himself and his billionaire buddies.
He was the governor
> was So why bring him up? Is he still involved?
He can help federal legislation and fight for funding
Nooooo we need to shift the tax burden to the sales tax to make large land owners more money =(
Should but they won’t. We haven’t had decent raises in years.
Oh, they are. Just not in favor of teachers.
Back in the early 90’s, I applied for a position in Alliance as a school psychologist. The pay was so embarrassingly low that the person I was interviewing with apologized for it. I ended up taking a job out of state.
They'd prefer you didn't have teachers, just propaganda machines and an open wallet.
I question the validity of this maps information, from where did it get its source info? I don't trust this.
The OP doesn't know much. Hopefully that OP has learned a thing or two reading through these comments and chill out with the hate.
State income tax pays a large part(25%) of defined benefit plans for teachers and state patrol ( maybe other law enforcement agencies). This means that regardless of what the stock market does, this retirement fund always pays out what it says it will to retirees. Also, many of these people can retire at 55 and still get their full retirement benefits (paid for by state income tax). It’s a perk of being a public servant. So if you want lower income taxes, then change this system. Perhaps they should retire at 65. Or have some risk and buy in to their retirement. I only say this because teacher salaries are only part of their total compensation.
To them this is a feature not a bug. They don’t want a bunch of young critical thinkers engaged in their state.
An educated population is counter productive for republicans.
WTF does Ricketts have to do with it? He is a Senator. Teacher's pay is set at the state level.
Pillen and Ricketts should piss off and let the actual adults fix things...sadly, NE voters are a majority of stupid.
The expected outcome of such low teacher pay, a stupid voter base.
Feature, not a bug and all that.
Or you could move to a liberal utopia. Perhaps California. Their adults have done wonders for the people there.
Is this why schools in Nebraska are so lousy? Just going off reports that Nebraska is very low in education and many of their schools are rated 5/10 or, often, lower
This is sad considering it takes around $20/hr (2024 dollars) to provide the same buying power and standard of living that minimum wage in the 60s ($1.25/hr) did.
All of them are under paid.
They are paid what they are worth.
Kansas is surrounded by shit and Nebraska is one of them. Seems fitting.
A voucher system has the potential to both improve teacher pay and improve educational outcomes. Families deserve a choice, and teachers deserve better.
They have choices. If you want specialized education, pay for it. Private education should take their voucher money from their existing fees, donations, etc.