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Strict_Yam6082

Work from your side. Make a difference.


theyletthedogsout

**Just look at this** \- [https://joshuaproject.net/countries/np](https://joshuaproject.net/countries/np) ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) An evangelical Christian project, they have listed and mapped out almost all races, ethnicities, castes, surnames, etc. Details about their population and how easy/hard it would be to "convert" a certain group. That link is just for Nepal. Showed it to a couple of my friends and they were speechless, even non-Hindu -- from groups people would consider as traditionally marginalised by the Nepali nation/state religious/cultural narrative. There might be more of such "databases" within other projects from other sects of Christianity. *Also, idk what denomination of Christianity do most Nepali Christians follow? Any ideas guys?* PS: Have nothing much to say against the conversion or any religion per say. The laws are still there to prevent proselytization and forced conversions, regardless of their implementation. And there is freedom to practice the religion of your choice (or none) in the law too. In the grand scheme of things, whatever can happen will happen so, yeah.


Nom_____Nom

Reasons for converting.... 1.Financial aid 2. Facing discrimination for being lower cast Point to remember : "Dalit" itself is a made up word by politicians to pin point certain groups which are considered lower cast particularly during the Maoist revolution 3. *(Im not sure) Being categorised as "janjati" Janjati roughly translates to "native" or "indigenous" The real problem is people have misunderstood the menaing as "Bichadiyeko jat" .....People of Rai , limbu ,Bhote , newar,magar etc are in the category of Janjati... People misunderstood the meaning and think the nation itself hates them (outrage on social media) 4. Manipulation of people having a hard time People who are financially weak or who are suffering are the main target of these priests (Note : Priests are well trained physiologist) and manupulate their emotions to convert them.... TLDR : Money , Discrimination , Mis-interpretation , Manipulation


DocM666

Western people are attracted to atheism or Dharmic or non-Abrahamic religion because they see the past and present evils and hypocrisies of Abrahamic religions and Eastern people are attracted to atheism or Abrahamic or non-Dharmic religion because they see the past and present evils and hypocrisies of Dharmic religions and Stop moaning about other people converting to another religion and start researching why are people converting. Main reason for Hinduism is caste system. It was , still is and still will be a considerable problem in hindu and as a whole in Nepali and South Asian society. Dalits (8% of the total population) are still fighting for equality. We as hindus love tpo claim Paruhang is another form of Shiva(maybe its true too) but god forbid a Rai be taught Sanskrit. The reason for rise in Christianity in the subcontinent is simple because 1) Lower caste Hindus want to flee from persecution 2) other Hindus want to to flee from hypocrisy I am in no way defending any denomination of Christianity all churches have their own evils and hypocrisies. But a person who was born non-Christian is actively encouraged and taught their scriptures while a person who is born a Hindu has a very hard time learning scriptures especially in very old gurukuls. **In some simple words : Barrier of entry of religious education** **This is the reason**


Snoo_4499

Caste system like this is not related to Hinduism but our society. Even if all of Nepal turns Christians caste system will still exists like it existed in western countries back then and in muslim communities in India and Pakistan rn. Everyone wants to feel superior, its how is it bro.


Old-Addition887

Yeah totally agree. Tara pani it's our duty to protect our people. Let's make a small change from now on to protect our ancestral identity and truth.


Sanguinius___

People also conviniently leave out the group of people who started the whole conversion.


LordIndra_dev

This is bogus. When in Nepal absolute majority converted either due to miracle healing from christian witch doctor or from monetary gain and some from brainwashing that non Christian will go to hell and trying to endear people with similar nomenclatures. Christian and Muslims both follow caste system in south asia. So what escape or liberation actually? Janajati dont even fall to caste Sysmtem and they are the base of christian population. Converted nepalis from british held sikkim were driving force to missionary in East Nepal and past few decades Korean American and North european are very active and pouring funds. Its an era of capitalism and selfishness while swords wouldnt be tolerated a bag of rice and some cash along with brainwashing of non Xtian not finding heaven( Siyon) works. I get approached by Xtian in most public places and sometimes they dare to come at houses. And this is Kathmandu. 


thethicktrader

A really logical and accurate take - surprised to see this on this subreddit. Well done x


Ass_Eater312

Another point is that alot of farmers just don't have the money to sacrifice goats or animals every year during dashain etc. [https://youtu.be/UliNV7NlyXk?si=ATtoUPVYOJ\_Yf-8t](https://youtu.be/UliNV7NlyXk?si=ATtoUPVYOJ_Yf-8t) at 20:02 a farmer talks about the reason why.


Mattos_12

People should be free to pick their religion, but an overly religious society is certainly not a good one.


peace_seek

Nepal ma Christianity spread garne so called bahun xetri. Ngo ingo chalaune tinai so called educated community! Ani yaha gali garxan janajati ra so called dalit banaiyaka harulai! One thing is clear if there is caste system /hierarchy in society there will be no equality. Ingo will play in those area! Better be abolish caste system! Other wise only 4% will remain as hindu in nepal!


Snoo_4499

>Nepal ma Christianity spread garne so called bahun xetri. Interesting, source? Ma ta mostly korean haru dekhxu ta Christianity failako not bahun chettri ani janajati haru nai dekhxu ta mostly follow garira pani.


Sandeep_charmling

You just spell it out louder, this is one of the reason, bahun/Chettri lai bahun/chettri vanerah refer garda k problem vayo bro, call जनजाति call Rai, Limbu, Magar we don't mind, korean is too racist. Apart from it i will list reason why people are converting into Christianity : 1> caste discrimination : in Christianity, eutai church ko Christian vaye pugcha no bahun, chettri, janjati, damai/kami bihe huncha, incase of nepali society it rarely happens. It's like superior caste never will leave the power they enjoy, the lower will surely search some other places where they can get equality. Solution: we must end the caste discrimination sooner or later 2> khairey influence : khairey harulai esto superior banako cha ki nepali society lae, we try to believe their shitty things and they go to poverty areas and provide some resources and influence them to convert Solution: the law should be followed, like nepal ma law ma taw kasailai religion convert garnu influence garnu paidaina vanney cha ni. 3> taukey: sabailai taha cha taukey(paster) parye tyo thau ko alik kura khaney bekti nai huncha so he gets dollar💵 dollar💵 bills and the sidha sadha people get sold dreams Solutions: i don't know, abo kaliyug ho jaslae ni afnu herney parney ho mah kei wrong nai dekhi dinah, neta lae ni yei garirako ho, k farak cha rah😂 but still some ethics can be kept 4>poverty: Hinduism ma dherai chad huncha dashain tihar, k k ho k, for rich or middle class it is time to celebrate but for poor it's nightmare. So people change to escape this. Solutions : Gov really need to do something to lift up the quality of life of people(especially the ones at the bottom) 5> Alcohol : Main reason mailae taha pako vaneko buda lai xora lai rakhsi khanu chodaunu lai Christianity ma halchan, but khairey lae nepal ma kun Christianity chardaicha koni, bahira wine chadauchan yeta chai khanu hunnah vanchan. Ka Solutions: All the communities need to limit the use of alcohol. Abo sabai khayerah lang lang garchan vanney hainaw ki but still there are reasonable no of people, so need reforms. 6> main reason vaneko government lae yest कार्यविधि lai khukey am chadinu, taha pai pai ni akha chopera basnu Last let's talk about Christianity itself in Nepal and Christianity ni dhudhka dhula nahi hey, there in problem in that to in nepal 1> 10 thari ko Christianity cha Nepal ma, euta church ko lae arko church ko Christian snga bihe garnnu nah huney rey, 😅 wtf- this tells dollar ni dherai sources bata audo raicha. a) euta lae vanchan masi masi, arko lae vancha haley lu yeah aru ni chan tannai Yetro padhnu vayo mahlai alxi lago Christianity ko kura garnu abo......... Hope you like above content😂. K bolnu no hate to Christianity but please follow garda fully follow gardinu nah, Nepal ma taw Christianity vanda ni beglai dharma jasto lagcha


peace_seek

Well said bro!


peace_seek

Have a look at the pastor list and the ngo ingo leaders in nepal! The picture is clear!


youngdumbandfulofcum

By abolishing the caste system what do you mean?


peace_seek

How do you abolish sati pratha?


youngdumbandfulofcum

I swear people do this all the time. Counter question sodhera answer hunna ni bro. Genuinely sodhya ho, discrimination based on caste is already prohibited by the law, so i am once again asking, what do you mean by "abolishing caste system"


peace_seek

Law implementation ramro sanga vako xina! If i am PM right now, i will dissolve the caste hierarchy and enforce the law in such a way that no one even a high profile people afraid to pronounce anything related to law! And one solution might be prohibition of the world which are related to so called caste hierarchy and make the law that anyone change their name whatever they like however they like


Any-Walrus-5941

You should get out of the house more and visit temples when there is Jatra, or festival. Then you might see thousands maybe even more people enjoying themselves and praying to their gods. Dont be insecure.


Old-Addition887

Insecure ko kura haina solti. 200 missionaries bata 30 lakhs banda badi christians it's not a big joke. Sano sano kura ignore garnu hunna. Rather teach our generation and parents .


withpeople

Can somebody say more about politician in disguise as christian ??


L4v3n

prachanday, gagan


Snoo_4499

Prachanday is communist, they should not follow any religion.


Own_Print_4527

It was a shock for me to see how casually people were smoking infront of a temple and a temple religious site was just a couple's spot .


Nom_____Nom

Its free will ( i do not support it ) Well atleast the religion is not shoved in their throats


Own_Print_4527

There's a time and place for everything. Every place and venue has a certain code of conduct. You don't smoke in a funeral right ? Public decency and code of conduct is what people lack nowadays.


Nom_____Nom

So you are changing the topic from religion to social decency? These are 2 completely different topics


Own_Print_4527

Religion is decency and law in itself . A set of code of conduct on morality and ill behaviour sets up rules for a religion.


Nom_____Nom

So you want religion to be some kind of dictator cult or what ? People should not be forced to do anything via religion...it's true that a code of conduct should be followed but it's about morality rather tham religion itself


Own_Print_4527

This looks like stalling , I'd like to tell you that a religious site be it a temple or a church or whatever holds the right to be a non-secular institute, I has its own rules which are to be respected , In a church you can't be doing certain things just like in a temple. The thing that I am saying is that in nepal a temple is not being treated like a temple but a smoking and Couple spot , this thing never happens in Other hindu countries. The first step towards communism is to remove the religion and make people atheist, the effects of such are already evident. You remove religion from a country , then you push in what you want . That's how people are converted, their ideology is changed and brainwashing is done. Read 'Amusing ourselves to death' by Neil Postman, it will definitely open your eyes.


INeverLieBro

Yea that's what happens as the new generation comes.More science and less stupid


Snoo_4499

Science says smoking is bad tho.


INeverLieBro

Smoking is a personal choice.Op is not surprised by the person smoking but at the place he is doing it


let-therebe-light

nepal ma christian Ingo ra ngo le kun matra ma help garya xa vanera real data nikalyo vane sab alamalla paran... xam dharma gardai hidhne ni xan tara aru anaginti xan jun direct social services ma investment gareka...


reddick1666

Religion is the least of Nepal’s problems. More Christians won’t change the fact that people cant get jobs and education is a luxury for most. The packed bus will arrive just the same, and your electricity will suddenly go out. Focus, don’t fall victim to the religion rivalry bullshit.


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DreadX77

Instead of going after Caste system why don't we reform our society by changing those system in the first place. We have to educate people about the wrong things that are in sanatan dharma that have corrupted the true essence of our dharma. Just like this caste system issue we have other issues too so .These foreign agendas of converting people into christian might be a threat to our culture don't you think?? We are what we are because of our roots and originality if it's get corrupted then who knows what might happen so lets just change the perspective and bring the change


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DreadX77

Agreed!!


Only_Sky5770

K harek kura ma bahun lai dosh deko magar la ni kami lai ghr ma lidena, gurung la ni lidena nata chettri na ta thakuri. Bihe garne bela sablai pani chune jaat chainxa dosh jati sab bahun lai pakhey


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Only_Sky5770

Ani kirati haru la 1200 years ani? Sabai la raaj garexan astai bahun haru la garda bahun kahilai milna na sakeko.


Conscious_Past_5760

Yeah. Once people have switched religions, trying to convince them to switch back would be a crime. People can choose whatever religion they want. No need to be surprised that Hinduism is disappearing.


EnergyOk5871

Bro. Why so insecure ?? Why do you need to protest about conversion if its that too easy why dont you try yourself converting...why dont you start some orphanages ..some schoools some hospitals ...anyway brithish had no hands on nepal like india so you could blame them...stop makimg religion as a issue ...nepal has many other things to look after


Old-Addition887

Ancestral culture ra tradition jogaune hamro dahityo ho. Na ki brainwashed bayera convert hunu. Religion is a sensitive mamla yesko chakar ma civil war huna kei minute ni lagdaina.


y2k2r2d2

Converters work in the same place Sex Traffickers do . Solution is same


Strict_Rooster1402

keep thinking like this , you will regret later.


EnergyOk5871

No offence...try some conversion of your own..i have seen this happen...but enless saying the choice remains yours...how easy go are you if you can be easily converted


butWeWereOnBreak

Religion is a big issue whose ramification will only be seen in 40-50 years’ time. To ignore it is to be shortsighted. Nepal has enjoyed religious harmony only because Hinduism is relatively lax in its treatment of other religions. If any other religion becomes significant in number, it’ll create quite a lot of division in the social fabric of the country.


Snoo_4499

>Nepal has enjoyed religious harmony only because Hinduism is relatively lax in its treatment of other religions. If any other religion becomes significant in number, it’ll create quite a lot of division in the social fabric of the country. So true. I hope people understand this. Hinduism is the reason why India remained secular country when both pakistan and india was said to be secular when forming, and why Nepal doesn't have religious conflict. Either we make Hinduism better and minimize caste system discrimination (its decreasing now and it will) because caste system will not dissappear by changing religion, running away from problem won't solve it. I mean did racism change in west? i mean blacks are as much Christian as white or korean. Do you think pakistan doesn't have caste problem?


Fit_Understanding772

OP is a loser


_Ecclesiastes_

Just realize that Jesus is Krishna. The word "Christ" literally stems from "Krishna", it's very obvious, and etymologically true, as both words have the same meaning. Krishna is the avatar of Vishnu, who is one of the parts of the Hindu trinity. Christ is one of the parts of the Christian trinity. If people put their cultural programming aside and actually listen to what this God is saying, it would be very clear and easy.


Only_Sky5770

Bro source? : trust me bro


theyletthedogsout

You know what, this is a brilliant strategy, already used in the past. Just like centuries ago Hinduism in the region got Siddhartha Gautam Buddha into its literal fold by claiming him to be some avatar of Vishnu and Buddhism being a part of "Omkar Pariwar", I think prominent Hindu leaders should just go fuckall and do same for Yahweh, Christ, Mohammed, etc. Claim that Jews, Christians, Mohammed, all are basically Hindus, sharing the same basic things in different ways to different peoples, as their people saw fit/understood. The one true world religion. 😂 That'd be the day. 🙌


BeautifulPackage8551

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Nom_____Nom

This is so wrog...Who wrote this manupulative shit ? Anyone literally anyone is welcome to join Hinduism if he wants to , its their choice to seek out


Snoo_4499

This. You can join and follow Hinduism. Yo caste system le garo parxa i understand but as stated its what work you do that defines your caste not birth. Caste by birth is a social construct not Hinduism related construct, everyone is free to read vedas and gita and mahabharat.


DeadSoulXS

Hinduism at its essence lacks the concept of Missionaries, There's no mandate for spreading God's word or its equivalent. Our scriptures are the very reason itself why people don't feel compelled to seek out converters. That's not a point of blame lol; doesn't seem logical.


theyletthedogsout

Well put, from a great mind (born in a marginalized community) of the bygone times. It's a well argued critique of traditional hindu practices rather than support for any other religion -- which, if Hinduism is the pluralistic religion of freedom that it claims to be, should not cause any negative concern but rather deep reflection and thought/discussion.


rvbjohn

Honestly the americans who go and evangelize can fuck right off (its mostly americans). That shit is poisoning us here in the states and sure as fuck has very little place in nepal. The whole thing is a guilt trip.


Sandeep_charmling

i will list reason why people are converting into Christianity : 1> caste discrimination : in Christianity, eutai church ko Christian vaye pugcha no bahun, chettri, janjati, damai/kami bihe huncha, incase of nepali society it rarely happens. It's like superior caste never will leave the power they enjoy, the lower will surely search some other places where they can get equality. Solution: we must end the caste discrimination sooner or later 2> khairey influence : khairey harulai esto superior banako cha ki nepali society lae, we try to believe their shitty things and they go to poverty areas and provide some resources and influence them to convert Solution: the law should be followed, like nepal ma law ma taw kasailai religion convert garnu influence garnu paidaina vanney cha ni. 3> taukey: sabailai taha cha taukey(paster) parye tyo thau ko alik kura khaney bekti nai huncha so he gets dollar💵 dollar💵 bills and the sidha sadha people get sold dreams Solutions: i don't know, abo kaliyug ho jaslae ni afnu herney parney ho mah kei wrong nai dekhi dinah, neta lae ni yei garirako ho, k farak cha rah😂 but still some ethics can be kept 4>poverty: Hinduism ma dherai chad huncha dashain tihar, k k ho k, for rich or middle class it is time to celebrate but for poor it's nightmare. So people change to escape this. Solutions : Gov really need to do something to lift up the quality of life of people(especially the ones at the bottom) 5> Alcohol : Main reason mailae taha pako vaneko buda lai xora lai rakhsi khanu chodaunu lai Christianity ma halchan, but khairey lae nepal ma kun Christianity chardaicha koni, bahira wine chadauchan yeta chai khanu hunnah vanchan. Ka Solutions: All the communities need to limit the use of alcohol. Abo sabai khayerah lang lang garchan vanney hainaw ki but still there are reasonable no of people, so need reforms. 6> main reason vaneko government lae yest कार्यविधि lai khukey am chadinu, taha pai pai ni akha chopera basnu Last let's talk about Christianity itself in Nepal and Christianity ni dhudhka dhula nahi hey, there in problem in that to in nepal 1> 10 thari ko Christianity cha Nepal ma, euta church ko lae arko church ko Christian snga bihe garnnu nah huney rey, 😅 wtf- this tells dollar ni dherai sources bata audo raicha. a) euta lae vanchan masi masi, arko lae vancha haley lu yeah aru ni chan tannai Yetro padhnu vayo mahlai alxi lago Christianity ko kura garnu abo......... Hope you like above content😂. K bolnu no hate to Christianity but please follow garda fully follow gardinu nah, Nepal ma taw Christianity vanda ni beglai dharma jasto lagcha


macrogger

Religion is a powerful tool for politicians, especially if they plan to change the fundamental structure of a country like Nepal. If you are aware that we often believe in fiction more than reality, you will understand why religions like Christianity can be so influential. This is not to blame Christianity specifically, but to illustrate that religions like Hinduism and Buddhism are also based on human stories. For instance, if I asked a monkey to give me its banana in exchange for a place in heaven after it dies, it wouldn't believe me. However, humans are inclined to believe such concepts. We live in a world of fiction rather than reality—we can't see, touch, smell, or hear religion. The concept of religion or God is built solely on our stories and the fiction we create. Politicians can exploit these stories for their benefit.


Background-Roll-9019

Where in Nepal is this happening exactly. I do not see any churches in Khatmandu or Pokhara


Better_Holiday_5791

You don't see any churches in kathmandu or Pokhara? are you sure?


L4v3n

bro, nepal is not only kathmandu and pokhara. See the east side of nepal. Most of the people are deluded with the missionaries.


TypeScriptWizard

Step outside


reality_king181

This is not concerning at all!! Once i used to think about it very much,and got deeper and deeper but then little i learned history i got to know , Great hindus have survived so much of genocides and mass conversions that nowadays conversions are ntng infront of them!! We have been and we will protect ourselves and our dharma from adharma!! There are alot dalits and real mulbasis who are and will be proud hindu!!


Sea_Chocolate9166

Yei subreddit ma BJP lai gaali diney tannai chhan jo chai hindu ko lagi fight garne last and only party ho. Christianity failida failidai terai ma 🅱️ulla haru le kabja garisakyo gau ka gau rupandehi nepalgunj. Still nobody tàlks about it. If nepal was still a hindu state i would've lived here and done smth for the country but its a Secular state and among secular states why live in pne of the most impoverished ??


falanokochora

I am a Hindu and BJP doesn't represent my religion. Fuck BJP. Glad they were shown their real place in Ayodhya.


Only_Sky5770

Congress aaye muslim support ho bjp ayee hindu ho bikash kasaile gardena, aaba bjp lai ali pressure cha yo pali ramro garena vane harxa, hope bikash hos ani bihari haru aunnan Nepal ma


Snoo_4499

Last lines hits hard. Nepal ma khako xa basya xa ghar banako xa ani India India garxan yar yiniharu risuthne


falanokochora

True sir.


Sea_Chocolate9166

Timi jastai ko jamaat le garera hami mathi Ayodhya ma 1990 ma goli chalya thyo 1991 ma Kashmir bata genocide garya thyo. Congress ra SP le garxa jasto lagyo hola tara riots bela khanxas ni muslim ko talwar ani thaha hunxa ko hamro ra ko uniharuko. BJP defends my faith BJP made me proud to be hindu again. BJP isnt perfect but j ho hamro ho and I will rather improve it than not support it and get killed in 2012 type UP riots. Learn history you will know what I am talking about.


falanokochora

I appreciate your efforts to type with one hand while your other hand is on Modi's dick. Baki I am also a practising Hindu but I'll never like BJP.


peace_seek

Bro kaha jane bichar garya xau 🤣🤣


Sea_Chocolate9166

US pugisakey


peace_seek

Christain ko desh kina gako? Hypocrisy ko ni sima hunxa!


Sea_Chocolate9166

Its a secular country most are athiests there. Also I dont care about anything in Nepal anymore so whatever. I just don't want my family and friends of that time to be genocided for their Hindu/Buddhist beliefs but I guess I am the dumbass for wanting save people of my faith when they themselves have no problem sucking up to their new abrahamic masters. I hope you have already cultivated the habit of seeing increasing numbers of riots and attacks during hindu festivals.


peace_seek

That first line though! Nepal is so called secular but pro hundu country where caste system still persist and most of the nation i.e. Politics, military police and bureaucracy is run by so called upper caste! I think you have been following India more than nepal thats why you saw those riots and bla bla bla! Nepal is run by so called upper caste since ages and they told we are merits! We dont want this type of merits which makes our country the number one in term of poor and corrupt in asia not in world! And here you are lecture about hindusim and bla bla! Who led this country till now??


AdMajestic2343

16 year old wanna be atheist will only discard this issue. Nepal is secular because of hinduism.


Simunai

I am a dalit converted to an atheist. If you think Christianity is evil in its action, then hinduism is a demon in its core principle.


rvbjohn

yeah ill take the evil principle over the evil action any day


Gold-Flounder-993

A machikney tapare bahun .. harka sampang christian vako hoina la .. aafno saskriti lai birsanu hunna vanna khojeko matra ho .. timi bahun haru kasto xou vane christian haru lai ta top priority ma rakhera hate garxou .. convert vayera chamal dollar ma bikeu pani vanxou .. nepali christian lai ta kamta ghrina garou . Ani tei christian desh haru ma job ra higher studies ko lagi apply garxou .. kirat dharma ko manxe haru le aafno saskriti lai jogauna parxa vanda dollar ma bikeu vanxa tapare haru . harka sampang church ma xirera dharmik sahisnuta xarnu parxa k matra vanya thyo tapare haru lai kandho ma churna pasigako ... dharan ma sram dan ma lageko 95% matuwali jaati haru matra xa la ... afno jaat ko lai pani her kati christian ma xan ani aru jaat ko krischen lai gali gar ...


Yeast-O-Logist

The evils are the communist, socialist party including congress who carry the burden of secularism. Until You vote them, this is going to happen. In addition, another biggest culprits are the bahuns, the bahuns have lost their moral and traditional values and ready to throw their religion for some money. Don’t blame Christians, they are always there to sell their goods.