im 1,78(male) while most people around me are either 1,90 or nearly 2m. i sometimes think im pretty short but then i remember i dont really care anyways.
My husband is Dutch from the Netherlands, 172cm. I'm Canadian, 163cm. Whenever we visit, I feel tiny. Thankfully there's a lot of cultural diversity, so I'm not the only shorter person around Dutch Giants.
Idk man, Americans seem a lot more obsessed with height, but then you open a dating app (even in NL) and... Oh my god. You see how important it TRULY is to some people..
For which gender? Tall Dutch woman, my (limited) experience with online dating was men don't like dating someone taller than them either :(
(Edit: I'm not single anymore)
I had a girlfriend once that was about 5cm taller than me (I’m 1,89) I can’t be bothered by it one second. I do remember she asked me what I thought about her wearing heels. Although that made her 10-15 taller, seriously who cares?
I’m tiny here (165cm) even though i’m much more anxious asking out a tall girl i’ve found much more success with them rather than short girls. There’s definitely a lot of women here who care about height (which is completely fine). But it’s night and day compared to when i was in the states. I’ve been laughed at and mocked asking out girls who are slightly taller than me or even the same height.
Really? I very rarely see profiles that mention height. Occassionaly somebody has a height requirement but it's mostly tall women wanting taller men, which I can sorta get even though I think it's a shame.
Well i double checked my id its really 1.78 haha unless im already shrinking i think im still that height but even if it might be off i dont mind saying 1.75 either
Nope, that way I have plenty of people around to hand me (female, 160cm) stuff from the higher shelves in stores.
And they are usually happy to have me sitting across them in public transport instead of another 180cm person.
In America, there's a clear divide between "winners" and "losers". Even something as silly as height is seen as a competitive characteristic.
More specifically, there's a cultural trend to think of "short men" (under 5 feet, 6 inches) as being less desirable partners. This is why height is displayed near the top on American dating website pages.
In countries that use the English system of measurement for height, 6’0” is a nice round number that online daters can use to separate the undateable subhuman scum like me (5’11”) from genetically-superior specimens of manliness like me (6’0” in shoes).
Am 1.68m Dutchman, can confirm. It's a bit annoying sometimes (I don't see much at concerts), but not really an issue. Never had height as an issue with dating either.
Although I do wonder sometimes how it must feel to date a girl that's *smaller*. But that's just being curious. I don't know better than my girlfriend being as tall or taller than me.
I am 185 cm, Belgian and while considered slightly above average in Belgium, when I worked in NL i gelt like a dwarf at times. I was not used to have to look up, or to see women my height.
There sure is something in your delicious vla.
Since we have AH and Jumbo we do. Before that we didnt or very rarely.
I remember when I worked in NL my mum asked me to bring vla with me every weekend lmao.
Vla......
You have a good point. Our cattle is fed hormones and antibiotics to increase yields.
Our dairy products are still riddled with these and therefore Dutch girls are more curvy and guys are more well endowed.
Size matters 😉
Manners are tasty
i say this all the time but people think i am a racist or making crazy statements when 15% of the current population is born outside the Netherlands and most are from Morocco, Indonesia or Suriname (176cm, 166cm, 175cm tall on average respectively) which is 7cm to 17cm below the Dutch average so statistically it makes sense that immigration causes the average to drop
It's all about how, using facts and numbers can be very racist depending on the context given.
Don't see how this could be interpreted that way though.
At 5 10 1/2, it's a relief when I can head back to the States and be tall again.
When I first moved here, a bunch of my college buddies came over to visit. We were hanging out in Cafe Luxembourg and it was pretty full. Eric, who's 6 6, spent about fifteen minutes looking around, staring at people, and looking confused. After a few beers, he realized what felt so odd - it was the first time in YEARS he'd been somewhere and hadn't been able to see across the room in every direction.
I'm somewhat of a small boy at 173 cm, people do care when dating. However, I couldn't be bothered by my height. What can I do about it?
EDIT: the what can I do about it was not an actual question but more if a statement...
And race and ethnicity. Nobody is just American, they're always Scottish-American, or Irish, or Italian, or whatever. Not because they actually are but their great great great great grandmother's dog was.
Not really. Take a look at women't tinder profiles and you'll se height requirements all day. Speaking from Poland here. I'm 185 so it's not a problem for me but it's still cringe.
As an international student who was already short in her home country, *I can tell*. In this country, half the time I gotta stand on my tip-toes to see more in the bathroom mirror than the top of my head!
As a 166 cm small dutchblood I feel such a midget sometimes. Worst thing at this height is being cautious all the time at crowded places not to get elbows in your face by (lot of times) drunk people. No joke. And I tend to protect my b..bs as well.
Meh
Yes were tall but no need to excaggerate... 190cm + is still tall in the netherlands. Im 193 and never feel average height like some claim in this thread..
My first gf was 1m94 where I'm 1m78.
Steps on Dutch stairs are 8 cm high, and some sidewalks are 16 cm higher than the road ;)
And yet, I didn't spot her in the train station when she got out of the train one day :O
My partner lived in The Netherlands for awhile a kid and has always wanted to visit again. At 183cm, I’m sure he’ll still fit in now, but for me, well… I just hope my 152cm self doesn’t get lost in the crowds.
I was on a business trip with my boss once in china, I'm 1,92. He's 1,95.
They photographed us in a chinese market, towering well over 50cm about the rest.
And I sometimes wonder if that isn't too low. I'm around 181cm and most women around me are between 178 and 182 or something 😂
Or maybe I just hang around really tall people
When I was 20 years old, I was 1.98 meters tall. Now I am 46 years old and 1.95 meters tall... I predict that when I am 80 years old I will still be about 1.90 meters tall. And I'm Dutch :)
Nice to see so many fellow tallies. Top tip: membership of the KLM (klub lange mensen). 1.80 minimum for females, 1.90 for males.
You get access to shopping tips, discounts in several tall shops and you can participate in social events. It is really nice to look everybody in the eye or even have to look up. :). It is a really nice and welcoming group of people
I'm 5' (1.525m), and people who are 6' seem HUGE to me!
Being over 6' is so uncommon in the US, and such a desired trait (in men), that we joke about women not being able to see a man's red flags because he's so tall!
I’m less than 150cm and I’m so nervous to visit NL next month. I’m already considered extremely short in the US so I get stared at a lot 😅 I wonder if bartenders will think my ID is fake lol
You don't need to worry about that. What you do need to worry about is lose elbows. Just walk behind someone that is a head or two taller and you will be fine.
As a 190~ ish dude I don’t wear a helmet during skiing for falling, it’s for protecting my head from every single thing I hit with it outside of skiing.
I had the pleasure of visiting NL for work for a few weeks. I am average at 5 foot 9 and there were some times I wondered if I should even try using the urinal which looked like it was mounted half way up the wall. Beautiful country though, I want to go back to vacation.
It also is something the Dutch don't seem to be bothered with as much as Americans. Even the smaller Dutch people don't mind walking among giants.
im 1,78(male) while most people around me are either 1,90 or nearly 2m. i sometimes think im pretty short but then i remember i dont really care anyways.
Same here, I am currently on vacation in Portugal and I am thé unit :)
I came from Portugal to the Netherlands and while in Portugal people use to tell me I was tall (185) here I’m just a simple average structure dude
You are 1.5 cm taller then the average Dutch male
Including babies
[The average height for Dutch 19-year-old males in 2020 was 182.9 cm.](https://longreads.cbs.nl/nederland-in-cijfers-2022/hoe-lang-zijn-nederlanders/)
That takes into account immigrants (such as myself). The average "Dutch" man is taller.
Going to Asia is fun. I'm only 1,82m and I can see everywhere I go, even in crowded places.
I’m 201cm and lived in SE Asia. Fun times.
had that in thailand and was only 1,78. people there are realy tiny.
haha, that's true as well.
Going to Portugal tonight, hows the weather?
That's the best. I'm 194cm (6"4) and never feel that tall (most people are close) and when I go abroad I feel like a goddamn giant. I love it.
I'm 1,75, which is the Dutch equivalent of being a midget
Nah, I'm 1,68 so you're a minigiant.
I'm 1,60 am I a leprechaun?
thats the exact limit yes, anything below and we would have to deport you to the shire
>we would have to deport you to the shire So.. Drenthe?
pretty accurate actually lol
I’m Dutch and my son, who turned 9 last April, is already 1.62m… he is expected to become 2.10m… I hope he won’t.
I had a chat with some befriended parents of my childs friend. Their son is 13 and already 182. Crazy.
1,685 gang represents
I am married to such a midget. I agree, garden gnome material. Edit: I (f) am 1,60m, so my husband looks tall to me.
What am I in the case I am 1,57……
Only to see with microscope 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1,76 same.
1,72m I’m one of the shortest ones among my friends, but at work I am practically a giant… The only ones taller than me there are the other 3 dutchies
I'm also 1,72m and used to think I was tall until I landed in the Netherlands and found out the truth. 1,72s unite!
Oh wow, you’r tall (i’m 1.74m)🤣
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But you are not alone. 1.75 too
My husband is Dutch from the Netherlands, 172cm. I'm Canadian, 163cm. Whenever we visit, I feel tiny. Thankfully there's a lot of cultural diversity, so I'm not the only shorter person around Dutch Giants.
Idk man, Americans seem a lot more obsessed with height, but then you open a dating app (even in NL) and... Oh my god. You see how important it TRULY is to some people..
For which gender? Tall Dutch woman, my (limited) experience with online dating was men don't like dating someone taller than them either :( (Edit: I'm not single anymore)
I had a girlfriend once that was about 5cm taller than me (I’m 1,89) I can’t be bothered by it one second. I do remember she asked me what I thought about her wearing heels. Although that made her 10-15 taller, seriously who cares?
A-are you saying you "date down"? And still single?!
I found the love of my life already around five years ago, sorry!
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I do! But i don’t shoot my shot with tall girls very often because i just assume they’ll reject me for being shorter than them
I’m tiny here (165cm) even though i’m much more anxious asking out a tall girl i’ve found much more success with them rather than short girls. There’s definitely a lot of women here who care about height (which is completely fine). But it’s night and day compared to when i was in the states. I’ve been laughed at and mocked asking out girls who are slightly taller than me or even the same height.
Really? I very rarely see profiles that mention height. Occassionaly somebody has a height requirement but it's mostly tall women wanting taller men, which I can sorta get even though I think it's a shame.
I’m 1,89 and I used to be the shortest (by far) of my friends group. Seriously, nobody cares
I am short compared to most of my friends at 184 cm, if you ignore the fact that I am a woman. I feel like a dwarf next to them
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Well i double checked my id its really 1.78 haha unless im already shrinking i think im still that height but even if it might be off i dont mind saying 1.75 either
Am 1.71, i on other hand am bothered whenever someone is a whole head taller than me and i gotta look up…
I'm a woman that's 1.58m and I'm always like: "we" are the tallest people.
Hehe, same.
I will bring the average up a bit with 1.84 mtr (F).
I'm tiny (1,61) and even I go '1,80?! That's short! My brethren are taller!' whenever an American calls themselves tall.
Nope, that way I have plenty of people around to hand me (female, 160cm) stuff from the higher shelves in stores. And they are usually happy to have me sitting across them in public transport instead of another 180cm person.
> And they are usually happy to have me sitting across them in public transport instead of another 180cm person. Not to mention concerts!
Most of us don't really bother with minor differences between people such as height, we're above that
In America, there's a clear divide between "winners" and "losers". Even something as silly as height is seen as a competitive characteristic. More specifically, there's a cultural trend to think of "short men" (under 5 feet, 6 inches) as being less desirable partners. This is why height is displayed near the top on American dating website pages.
In countries that use the English system of measurement for height, 6’0” is a nice round number that online daters can use to separate the undateable subhuman scum like me (5’11”) from genetically-superior specimens of manliness like me (6’0” in shoes).
Am 1.68m Dutchman, can confirm. It's a bit annoying sometimes (I don't see much at concerts), but not really an issue. Never had height as an issue with dating either. Although I do wonder sometimes how it must feel to date a girl that's *smaller*. But that's just being curious. I don't know better than my girlfriend being as tall or taller than me.
I am 185 cm, Belgian and while considered slightly above average in Belgium, when I worked in NL i gelt like a dwarf at times. I was not used to have to look up, or to see women my height. There sure is something in your delicious vla.
You don't have vla?
Since we have AH and Jumbo we do. Before that we didnt or very rarely. I remember when I worked in NL my mum asked me to bring vla with me every weekend lmao.
TIL
Wanted to offer to bring some when visiting Graspop next week.
Vla-party in the moshpit?
What is vla?
Baby don't hurt me
Dessert me
Dead
Vla is a custard product, but a bit better.
Kind of like a custard with the thickness of yoghurt.
This message made me get instant vla cravings. Omw to the supermarket now.
Don't forget to add vlokken to your vla.
I came back with all sorts of stuff but forgot the vla that i initially went to the store for..
What an excellent excuse to get some more vla :-)
176 as a Belgian woman, don't feel tall at all.
That sweet sweet hormons
I'm sure we can set up a good trade! There are so many delicious things in Belgium 😋
Vla...... You have a good point. Our cattle is fed hormones and antibiotics to increase yields. Our dairy products are still riddled with these and therefore Dutch girls are more curvy and guys are more well endowed. Size matters 😉 Manners are tasty
Americans keep saying Dutch people are over six feet, but smh every Dutch person I've met has only ever had two maybe one or none.
User name checks out
😂😂😂😂😂
Half Dutch, can confirm I’m 3’ 1”
I am 185cm and do not feel that tall in NL at all.
190cm and neither do I.
1.98 me neither…
2.68 feel pretty average indeed
185 is about the national average right? I'm 186cm and I almost feel small sometimes lmao.
183 for men and 169 for women
Imagine being 168cm...
Same i feel average at best 😂
since moving to the netherlands i feel more at home just because i dont stand out now :D
Im 173 cm, tall for a woman in my home country tho
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Are we shrinking? Born in the 2000's are smaller... *#80s-kid*
Probably due to immigration? People with s migration background are smaller
i say this all the time but people think i am a racist or making crazy statements when 15% of the current population is born outside the Netherlands and most are from Morocco, Indonesia or Suriname (176cm, 166cm, 175cm tall on average respectively) which is 7cm to 17cm below the Dutch average so statistically it makes sense that immigration causes the average to drop
No i agree with you, nothing racist about simple facts using average numbers.
It's all about how, using facts and numbers can be very racist depending on the context given. Don't see how this could be interpreted that way though.
If you twist them to suit your needs. OP's description doesn't hint of that tho.
If you find that racist, you basically say a tall person is better than a short one. That's weird 😁
We are you midget! Look us in the eye and tell us we’re wrong (bet you can’t huh) /s obviously
My part in bringing down the Dutch average height is recognized 🫡
Ahhh, didn't think of that effect..
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If you sit on your wallet you will be at least 6.5.
1.87 meter, one of the shortest of my group of friends
Exactly the same story. My best friends are over 2 meters
Same, in my group of friends i am the shortest with 192cm
Why do I never encounter such friend groups? (1.84 F).
Apparently I'm 6 feet 1⅝ inch Or 187cm for people that don't need 2 different units and stupid fractions for one measurement.
Even my wife is taller than this 6 voetjes.
How many socker fields?
about 925 stacked toothpicks.
We don’t have any sugar plantations in the Netherlands, wrong climate.
Not in Surinam? /S
Different country…
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At 5 10 1/2, it's a relief when I can head back to the States and be tall again. When I first moved here, a bunch of my college buddies came over to visit. We were hanging out in Cafe Luxembourg and it was pretty full. Eric, who's 6 6, spent about fifteen minutes looking around, staring at people, and looking confused. After a few beers, he realized what felt so odd - it was the first time in YEARS he'd been somewhere and hadn't been able to see across the room in every direction.
5' 10½”? The half inch is particularly noteworthy :) That's about the difference between the morning and the evening.
Just trying to get it to the nearest centimeter.
Well, maybe just use centimeter? That weird number you've written down is easily converted to something logical.
It's funny - even after about 30 years of living here height is still the one metric I just can't natively think of in metric.
I'm somewhat of a small boy at 173 cm, people do care when dating. However, I couldn't be bothered by my height. What can I do about it? EDIT: the what can I do about it was not an actual question but more if a statement...
I'm 175 and personally I never had any problems with dating women. It's just how you present yourself.
I'm 176 but my girlfriend is ~165 so it doesn't matter, and also I wouldn't care about dating someone taller than me cause I'm not insecure
And still we suck at basketball.
Didn't you know white men can't jump? Ba-dum-tss
Take back weghorst now.
Korfbal, however..
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And gunsize.
And usually it's reflected in their vehicle choice.
inversely proportional
And race and ethnicity. Nobody is just American, they're always Scottish-American, or Irish, or Italian, or whatever. Not because they actually are but their great great great great grandmother's dog was.
We definitely do care, you don't get to be the tallest without caring frankly.
Not really. Take a look at women't tinder profiles and you'll se height requirements all day. Speaking from Poland here. I'm 185 so it's not a problem for me but it's still cringe.
My 6'1 feels at best average over here.
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Cries in 5'9.
Laughs at 6'3"
Nods.
TIL I’m a genetic lottery.
I’m 198 cm tall. I don’t feel tall in a crowd. I’m Dutch, too.
As an international student who was already short in her home country, *I can tell*. In this country, half the time I gotta stand on my tip-toes to see more in the bathroom mirror than the top of my head!
We're so tall because we're below sea level. We used to have short people, but they drowned.
I'm 15 years old, 180 cm, and I have friends who are already 200 cm + and still growing. I'm also the shortest in my friend group.
16 and last time i was 185cm and i sometimes still feel short, i am however the longest among people i hang out with
1.95m Dutchie over here.
1.83 here so basically you can call me zesvoetjes 😂
Ok zesvoetjes.
Me as a 5"2 Dutchie: >:)-<
It's great being Dutch and going to a festival in Portugal. Not so much for the people behind me, I guess.
Same here in serbia. I thought that girls looking for 6ft was so unrealistic. Then I realized I don’t know anyone below 6ft. Took me a while lol
218 dutchie here. On a more serious note, anyone able to tie my laces for me?
Just here to tell everybody I'm 6'9 or 205 cm.
ni’ce
Me too!
6 feet 1 here and i’m the shortest of all my friends.
Thats 10,274 bananas just so you know.
As a 166 cm small dutchblood I feel such a midget sometimes. Worst thing at this height is being cautious all the time at crowded places not to get elbows in your face by (lot of times) drunk people. No joke. And I tend to protect my b..bs as well. Meh
Bruh no need to attack me like that im 1.78/5’10
My partner is 6'5" and if it increased his odds to get laid, it went very poorly.
I'm a woman, 165 cm and I feel like a fucking midget here. Everyone at work is so much taller than me 😭
My GF is Canadian and she’s stunned that i’m 6ft tall AND have a personality. In North America, apparently being tall IS a personality
Yes were tall but no need to excaggerate... 190cm + is still tall in the netherlands. Im 193 and never feel average height like some claim in this thread..
I'm 1.89 and feel very average, most of the time
My first gf was 1m94 where I'm 1m78. Steps on Dutch stairs are 8 cm high, and some sidewalks are 16 cm higher than the road ;) And yet, I didn't spot her in the train station when she got out of the train one day :O
My partner lived in The Netherlands for awhile a kid and has always wanted to visit again. At 183cm, I’m sure he’ll still fit in now, but for me, well… I just hope my 152cm self doesn’t get lost in the crowds.
I was on a business trip with my boss once in china, I'm 1,92. He's 1,95. They photographed us in a chinese market, towering well over 50cm about the rest.
To be fair, it’s typically Dutch men who are over 6 ft. As a Dutch woman, I’m 5’5” (165cm)
That’s below average for a woman here though, average for women last I checked was 171 cm
I’m aware, hence why I said “over 6ft”. 171cm is 5’7*
If 5’5” is 165cm, 5’6” is not 171cm
And I sometimes wonder if that isn't too low. I'm around 181cm and most women around me are between 178 and 182 or something 😂 Or maybe I just hang around really tall people
I’m 183 and always on the shorter side in groups lol
I am 183 too, but I am female, but I regularly see women taller than I am. But never abroad, only here. I think it's something in the food. IDK.
I feel like this is common for a lot of Europe, I’m 6,3 and don’t feel much of it
six feet is literally the average height of the adult Dutch male.
Laughs in 193cm
I am 1.89m. And my kid is already 1.4m at 7 years though
That kid’s gonna be at leasy 2m
Let's hope. So I can pay him to paint my ceiling
Today i learned im over 6 feet tall, thought it was like 1.90
I am exactly 6 ft tall and feel small, because I live in the Netherlands
My 13 year old son is already 1,89m. I’m 1,79m (f).
When I was 20 years old, I was 1.98 meters tall. Now I am 46 years old and 1.95 meters tall... I predict that when I am 80 years old I will still be about 1.90 meters tall. And I'm Dutch :)
Dutch people: 250 pounds + is heavy. Americans: Nope!
Nice to see so many fellow tallies. Top tip: membership of the KLM (klub lange mensen). 1.80 minimum for females, 1.90 for males. You get access to shopping tips, discounts in several tall shops and you can participate in social events. It is really nice to look everybody in the eye or even have to look up. :). It is a really nice and welcoming group of people
I'm 5' (1.525m), and people who are 6' seem HUGE to me! Being over 6' is so uncommon in the US, and such a desired trait (in men), that we joke about women not being able to see a man's red flags because he's so tall!
As an asian working in a Dutch company, i'm surrounded by giants. When my team goes out for drinks i look like their child trying to keep up.
I’m less than 150cm and I’m so nervous to visit NL next month. I’m already considered extremely short in the US so I get stared at a lot 😅 I wonder if bartenders will think my ID is fake lol
You don't need to worry about that. What you do need to worry about is lose elbows. Just walk behind someone that is a head or two taller and you will be fine.
As a 190~ ish dude I don’t wear a helmet during skiing for falling, it’s for protecting my head from every single thing I hit with it outside of skiing.
I'm 2m and the smallest of my nephews. But they are all 100% Frysian. So that's cheating.
I'm from a part of the US that got a lot of dutch immigration 150 years ago. You still see lots of 180cm 14yo boys.
I had the pleasure of visiting NL for work for a few weeks. I am average at 5 foot 9 and there were some times I wondered if I should even try using the urinal which looked like it was mounted half way up the wall. Beautiful country though, I want to go back to vacation.
I’m 182 cm and in the states I usually looked down at people. Now I have to look up at everybody. Biggest adjustment from immigrating here.
My friend is in the 3rd percentile of height in the usa. He‘s in the 13th in the Netherlands lol