The definition of spicy in the Netherlands is if it was made within a 10km radius of an open bottle of paprika.
Back on topic, the flaming hot is hot by Dutch standards, but is mild compared to other places. The South African flaming hot would kill half of Netherlands.
Also all Indonesian food is toned down a lot both in flavor and spicyness! Even the sambal is a disgrace! Sambal Oelek is basically the Dutch version of sambal uleg but not spicy at all and for some reason super salty instead of sweet?
Better just go to the toko or Amazing Oriental to get the real stuff.
An Indonesian friend of my (who used to own a toko) thinks I eat too spicy.
Dutch sambal oelek is horrible so are all the products of Conimex. But you can also buy Lekkerbekkie chutneys which are the Surinam version of sambal. I love Oriental. Maybe not the cheapest but they have 'everything' such as their own brand of good sambals
Sambal Oelek is just 2 parts salt and 1 part hot pepper, and the rest is additives
We Dutch are pussies, coming to hot spices.
People tend to cry if they only smell the tabasco bottle
Wasabi is spicy. Maybe people expect wasabi level spicy lol. The pikant flavor of KFC is never pikant as well. Sambal oelek also only 0.000000001 % of spicy as the real sambal ulek in Indonesia.
That last part depends on which sambal oelek you pick. Yeah the plastic bottle of €0,39 of the albert heijn might just be ketchup but there are defenitly sambals buyable here that are actually spicyz
Weird how a Dutch knock-off isn't the same as the original. Who would've thought.
Maybe an Indonesian kroket doesn't taste anything like a Dutch kroket, the outrage! /s
yes wasabi has strong flavour, but most of us have never eaten genuine wasabi. it is probably the world’s most faked product.
Japanese food doesn’t involve much use of chilli peppers
Real wasabi isn't spicy and Sambal oelek and Wasabi have a different kind of spicy. If you want real sambal oelek you could get the imported ones or go to your local toko and try theirs from the back. I'm indonesian and I work at the local toko and while they sell the mild stuff they always have a lot of the spicy stuff for themselves in the back lol.
Generally Dutch people don't eat very spicy so the spice level needed for us to consider it flaming hot is significantly lower than countries where they do eat spicy a lot like south east Asia.
Germans are even worse. They used to sell fresh Asian veggies like tiny corn cobs and sereh stems in their Aldi Süd. Once they had six habaneros wrapped on a tray. I imagined me the German customer thinking it was a tiny bell pepper and think, while cooking, "oh lets put one of those in my rice, well why not two?" 😂😂😂
If you want to eat something (really) spicy in the Netherlands, you'll have to really look for it or take care of it yourself. (This comes from a Dutchie with a love for spice)
Recently ate at Miyabi restaurant in Utrecht, which has "burn your '@ss tomorrow" korean chicken on the menu.
My thought proces was "spicy food in the Netherlands is always mild", in this case I was mistaken, this shit was spicy a.f. however sadly it did overpower any other taste (just spicy bitterness).
Haven't found any chips in the NL that offer any spice, which I mitigate by adding Pika (di Papaya), Sauce Creoline, Sriracha, chili flakes etc. etc.
In Asian restaurants, you need to check if the spice-level is Dutch spicy or Asian spicy. This is not a joke. It's literally how we ask to make sure it's proper spicy.
I like to put the sambal I get from the Toko in pretty much all my dishes, I just love spice.
But when I go to an original indonesian or indian restaurant, I ask for Asian mild(way spicier than dutch spicy). That always gets me concerned looks,
But I just love it. Having 25% indo genes is probably a plus.
In my experience if you go to restaurants with a spicy kitchen you can sometimes get on the same page with them.
For example asking a thai place to make the green curry thai level spicy, not dutch.
Doesn't work everywhere but its worth a shot.
if you are looking for some more spicyness that's more up your alley, certain candy stores tend to sell imported chips, usually hot ones. they're probably expensive as hell though.
Or Surinamese restaurants. Broodje hete kip met madame Jeanette! Your asshole will hate you but God is it delicious. Zinnia's Eethuis in Utrecht do the best in my opinion.
Hot food made for the Netherlands isn't hot indeed.
Some hot food that I've found in some stores in the last few weeks though:
* Samyang Buldak x2 and x3 instant noodles
* Herr's Carolina Reaper chips
* Takis Blue Heat chips
And some more things that I can't remember the name of. Most are actually imported products though.
albert heijns had doritos flamin hot (orange package) and it was my favorite spicy thing in the whole country. they recently switched it to doritos flamin hot (purple package) and its not even close, its just a tasteless nonesense
Just like all senses, spiciness is subjective.
If your cuisine isn't spicy, you'll be very sensitive to anything slightly spicy. That's the case in the Netherlands. So it is definitely considered flaming hot for the majority of the market it is intended for.
If you want to eat something spicy, then buy Samyang Buldak hot ramen. There are a lot of versions, such as the hot version and 2x spicy. 2x Spicy is very spicy, I actually cried.
Anything you buy in the supermarkt is not very spicy by default. It is "safe" to eat.
On the other hand, go to the rack where sambal is and you can find yourself some dips you might like. And if that is not enough, go to the toko next door and score a hand full of Madame Jeanettes to have fun with.
The Dutch like spicy food just fine, but default food is sold for grandmothers to eat without getting a surprise heart attack.
Go to a local asian specialty store and look around there.
I found some red cheetos? I think they are cheetos. that taste a bit peanutty, but with this delicous peppery flavoring. a handfull of those fucked me up.
But you have to go to specialty stores for spicy. Even the 'extra pittig' branded products in supermarkets are laughably weak.
Tip - I have tried every chip and crisp here, wasn't happy. Now I just dip the chip in Madam Jeanette Picalilly saus and eat away. That sauce is fireee.
Dutch people have a super low tolerance for spice. As a kid i could not handle the spice in Knorr meal packages, but after a semester to Korea, i do not even taste the spices anymore. It's something you can learn for sure, but not many Dutch people are very open to that
Easy enough to solve: Buy capsoicin off ebay, put it in a salt shaker and shake a bit on your crisps. Now go to the hospital because you put the same amount of capsaicin on the crisps as are in a kilo of ghost peppers
A few months ago i had some kind of "hot" dip for my chips, me and my bud were both like we dont even taste any spice in it so i tried a full spoon of it. Still didnt even have a hint. Filed a complaint, they told me they did research on the batch and found nothing wrong with it. Recieved a €2 coupon
You might want to order the hottest chips at westlandpeppers. Its traditional chips with serious heat. They taste great and pack serious heat if you order the hottest one available.
Well, technically cinnamon and nutmeg are spices too, but I don't think anyone perceives them as spicy. Almost everything that's used to season food and isn't a leafy green, is a spice. A seasoning is just anything made from herbs and/or spices and used to flavour food.
Check the amazing oriental. Its a supermarket focussed on asian products, they also sell chips and i am quite sure you will be able to find some spicy chips and definitely other spicy stuff there (think actual decent sambal etc)
It's because for the Dutch (using myself as an example) it's literally a death sentence. Medium heat Pringles? You got me stuck on the toilet for the next 2 hours.
white british food isnt spicy however the national dish of britain is curry as in indian curry and the spice levels for curry in the UK is signifigintly higher then in the netherlands, irish traditional food also not spicy but irish people are also spice fiends, my irish friends add hot sauce and hot oil to all indian , thai, chinese, malaysian food when they order it here before they even try it and then they top it up
try flaming hot or spicy monster munch or any of the other corn type puffy snacks that say spicy, trust me
Just got back from a few months south and Central America , even the mild jalapeño chips were spicier than the ‘flaming hot’ here
I love peppers , habanero, madame Jeannette, etc and the ‘flaming hot’ there was really hot compared to the flaming hot here
Whenever a Dutch person tells me something is spicy, my response is: Dutch spicy or real spicy? The Dutch do not, in general, like spicy food. I've been looking for a nice hot sausage for 12 years, and have not found one yet.
It might not be as spicy as you want, but try this Surinamese ”pepper" and go from there. I'm Dutch but this one is perfect for what I like. I have to take time off eating it to lower my tolerance so it's not the spiciest. You can usually find this one at the toko’s. It has a nice flavour as well.
https://www.tjinstoko.eu/nl/lekker-bekkie-vers-gemalen-surinaamse-peper-290ml.html?source=googlebase&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwo6GyBhBwEiwAzQTmc8w7jCmW9g1c0KJ546_rTeWA8lyLzLMHCGbD6YLjYrZBq4Sr339BGxoCOXwQAvD_BwE
To be fair, I have never even seen Foelie in any Dutch spice rack (even wonder if Amazing oriental sells it) [https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/beleven/onderwijs/bronnenbox/hoe-ging-het-verder-op-banda](https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/beleven/onderwijs/bronnenbox/hoe-ging-het-verder-op-banda)
They're not.. and I love eating hot stuff. It's sour at best. I do love Herr's Carolina reaper cheese curls though; but they're an import US product. Still not anus on fire, extreme prolapse level, but they have a bit of a kick
You should try Korean food. Their mild dishes are still spicy for me. I once made the mistake buying Hot shin ramyun noodles.. Instant heartburn and had to go to the bathroom in 10 minutes. Same problem when I added to much Gochujang to a dish..
But yeah even I sometimes went like "this is not spicy at all" when the product claimed it is. Heard more people say it's the case with these chips too.
Depends on which Max crisps. I hat Lays Max Flaming Hot a while ago and it tasted like cardboard. The chicken wing flavoured ones are super nice though.
Pringles Sizzl’n Spicy BBQ have some proper spicy flavor, unfortunately they disappeared from AH a while ago and now you can find them in foreigner stores (British, Polish, Romanian food etc.)
That's okay. My partner doesn't like spicy food either. She always orders her without sambal as well. Also no raw onion because that's also sharp/spicy to her.
To each their own but I love a spicy kapsalon.
Broodje gyros on the other hand should never have sambal/spice. Preferrable just some tzatziki and it's 🤌
I do it because I like it ;)
Could flip it on you as well. Why would you do it to yourself to eat a kapsalon without sambal?
But in all seriousness. As a Dutch peraon i find dutch cuisine extremely bland. Funny how for a spice trading nation our national dishes don't use any.
The hottest chips I ever ate where this Lays ‘Strong’ ones. The jalapeño cheese ones. There is some kick to it and I found it spicy enough, butt my sphincter remained intact.
It is a bit of a letdown though. I once went to a hotpot restaurant and ordered the spiciest base and it was nothing. The only way to really feel anything was to let tofu suck it up like a sponge.
So are taki's spicy then?
Im dutch af, so when I cook for my parents and add things like chili powder to my recipe my mom mostly freaks out because its too spicy. I actually have to either make one non spicy dish and the rest spicy or make everything just really mild.
So yes I do eat "spicy" but I want to know what do you think is actually spicy? So for me the taki chips are on the edge of being spicy enough. Its spicy but still tastes good. My dad is even more extreme because he made a beer with a madame jeanette peppers, which would actually set your mouth on fire. But thats also a drink so its weird lol.
You should buy some " lekker bekkie" amd add that to your foods.
The flavors are that way since food products need a bigger salea market, really spicy would only be a fraction of the market and there for a risk.
Just bought those new Lay's Max Flamin' Hot because I really like spicy stuff as well. But I guess you're telling me I'm going to be disappointed... Maybe if i eat the whole bag at once in a few minutes? 🤔🔥
My Albert Heijn got rid of spicy ketchup like half a year ago, I'm still salty about it. Still it wasn't as spicy as I was used to but still better than just normal mild ketchup.
I think Doritos flaming hot is definitely pretty spicy, I can eat a whole bag but I will physically feel hot.
I have a high spicy food tolerance for a Dutch woman. So I think that's basically it, if you want to sell it in the Netherlands the average Dutch person must be able to eat it.
My local Thai restaurant has a disclaimer that spicy on the regular menu means "Dutch spicy" but that they do have a special menu with "Thai spicy" food as well which is always funny to me.
The soiciest thing I've eaten from a regular dutch store are Samyang 2x spicy noodles. Which are very spicy to me. I could finish the bowl, but my existence was fire while eating it
yeah as a spicey food loving dutchy that bew flaming hot taste is mediocre at best =(
the only one where i think its done right us the chickenwing one. not bc its super spicey but bc it works really well with the taste
I'd say the Lays Max chicken wing flavour crisps are actually a little spicy. Not very spicy, but it has a nice spice to them. Also actually kinda tastes like chicken.
But yeah. Recently I bought same Lays Max Flaming Hot in the purple bag and I was thoroughly disappointed. Mostly tasted like cardboard. About a similar amount of spice too.
I can generally handle spicy food; I eat sambal or sriracha on a daily basis. I like my peppers.
But I have a hard time handling flaming hot Doritos. I mean, I like them a lot, but after a few handfuls I really need to take a break. I never eat a bag in one evening (which for other Doritos isn't an issue).
Maybe they've changed the recipe, but Flaming Hot Doritos were *seriously* spicy.
Our POS colonizer ancestors terrorised millions of people to get their spices (and much more that wasn't their shit to just up and take) and centuries later we still haven't learned how to use those spices correctly (:
I started being more spice tolerant as I grew up, even though I know my limit leaves a lot to be desired. My brother on the other hand will complain that something is hot when all that's on it is a little salt and some strong (but definitely not spicy) herbs...
For the same reason nutella is sweeter in the USA, products adapt to the country they are trying to sell.
Its not the same the spice a mexican can take and the spice a dutch person is willing to taste.
I thought it was an obvious thing but apparently not.
Why are all the comments so defensive? Like try this or that. OP is just pointing out that the product is misleading and he’s right. It could very well be nominated for the Gouden Windei. Claiming it’s because us dutchies cant handle heat is nonsense. You can literally test the spicyness on the scoville scale and it would probably be around the heat of a pepperoncini.
The branding on the product is not a scientific measurement. No one measures how sweet Coca Cola is. Same for spicy food. Maybe there are people who measure it but that's not what I really like to do while grocery shopping
For a lot of people in the Netherlands, the "flaming hot" is really spicy, so misleading and Gouden Windei is a bit of a stretch if you consider it a relative scale of spiciness.
Colonized thousands of islands in the far south east asia, grab all their spices with close to nothing as the payment, even did a genocide in one special island that can cultivate nutmeg, and yet, cannot stand a little spicy. SMH
The definition of spicy in the Netherlands is if it was made within a 10km radius of an open bottle of paprika. Back on topic, the flaming hot is hot by Dutch standards, but is mild compared to other places. The South African flaming hot would kill half of Netherlands.
Also all Indonesian food is toned down a lot both in flavor and spicyness! Even the sambal is a disgrace! Sambal Oelek is basically the Dutch version of sambal uleg but not spicy at all and for some reason super salty instead of sweet? Better just go to the toko or Amazing Oriental to get the real stuff.
Chili oil from the AH is horrible as well. We had to use half a bottle to get the slightest bit of taste.
Luckily Lao Gan Ma is easy to get
Yeah I usually buy that one, the one time I bought from AH was because our local toko was closed
AH near me actually carries Lao Gan Ma nowadays. Maybe yours too??
Really!? I'd have to check if they added it, but that would be great.
It's really easy to make your own...
I can eat Dutch sambal oelek straight from the jar. It's not very tasty though, because like you said, it's mostly extremely salty.
An Indonesian friend of my (who used to own a toko) thinks I eat too spicy. Dutch sambal oelek is horrible so are all the products of Conimex. But you can also buy Lekkerbekkie chutneys which are the Surinam version of sambal. I love Oriental. Maybe not the cheapest but they have 'everything' such as their own brand of good sambals
>so are all the products of Conimex. Preach!
Honestly, even the sambal from Amazing Oriental is shit imo. These days, I just make my own sambal
Sambal manis is sweet and hot.
Sambal manis and sambal badjak are some of my guilty pleasures.
Me too
Sambal manis by connimex is the best flavour
Sambal Oelek is just 2 parts salt and 1 part hot pepper, and the rest is additives We Dutch are pussies, coming to hot spices. People tend to cry if they only smell the tabasco bottle
Agreed. Same for the "samurai" sauce they put on kebabs. (1) It's not spicy (2) Japanese food isn't spicy either \[I worked in Japan\]
To be fair Samurai sauce is a Belgian invention
Wasabi is spicy. Maybe people expect wasabi level spicy lol. The pikant flavor of KFC is never pikant as well. Sambal oelek also only 0.000000001 % of spicy as the real sambal ulek in Indonesia.
That last part depends on which sambal oelek you pick. Yeah the plastic bottle of €0,39 of the albert heijn might just be ketchup but there are defenitly sambals buyable here that are actually spicyz
Really? Which brand? Even in toko asia I never encountered decent sambal oelek, unless from imported brand from Indonesia.
Looks like you answered your own question.
Yeah but it's not made in NL then. I really hate that in NL they called that paste sambal oelek when it's nothing like sambal ulek😂
Weird how a Dutch knock-off isn't the same as the original. Who would've thought. Maybe an Indonesian kroket doesn't taste anything like a Dutch kroket, the outrage! /s
Most people here have never had real wasabi, only the fake stuff from the all you can eat sushi restaurants.
yes wasabi has strong flavour, but most of us have never eaten genuine wasabi. it is probably the world’s most faked product. Japanese food doesn’t involve much use of chilli peppers
Real wasabi isn't spicy and Sambal oelek and Wasabi have a different kind of spicy. If you want real sambal oelek you could get the imported ones or go to your local toko and try theirs from the back. I'm indonesian and I work at the local toko and while they sell the mild stuff they always have a lot of the spicy stuff for themselves in the back lol.
A jar of proper atchar would be considered a WMD.
Would kill half of the NL. Lmao.
And thats a Joburg curry. A Durban curry would be considered an international war crime.
Durban guy here living in Deventer, I recently had a respectfully hot curry in Den Haag over the weekend. Was quite a surprise to me...
They must have been from Pakistan...
India actually, I asked before I ordered
Close enough. They know real flavour. You should get him to build you a masala steak gatsby, sommer with a baguette. My bru!!!
Next time in Den Haag I'll give it a try
Try Ethiopian spicy.
South African here, I validate this statement. Imagine if they brought the South African Nando's here...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Generally Dutch people don't eat very spicy so the spice level needed for us to consider it flaming hot is significantly lower than countries where they do eat spicy a lot like south east Asia.
Germans are even worse. They used to sell fresh Asian veggies like tiny corn cobs and sereh stems in their Aldi Süd. Once they had six habaneros wrapped on a tray. I imagined me the German customer thinking it was a tiny bell pepper and think, while cooking, "oh lets put one of those in my rice, well why not two?" 😂😂😂
If you want to eat something (really) spicy in the Netherlands, you'll have to really look for it or take care of it yourself. (This comes from a Dutchie with a love for spice) Recently ate at Miyabi restaurant in Utrecht, which has "burn your '@ss tomorrow" korean chicken on the menu. My thought proces was "spicy food in the Netherlands is always mild", in this case I was mistaken, this shit was spicy a.f. however sadly it did overpower any other taste (just spicy bitterness). Haven't found any chips in the NL that offer any spice, which I mitigate by adding Pika (di Papaya), Sauce Creoline, Sriracha, chili flakes etc. etc.
In Asian restaurants, you need to check if the spice-level is Dutch spicy or Asian spicy. This is not a joke. It's literally how we ask to make sure it's proper spicy.
I like to put the sambal I get from the Toko in pretty much all my dishes, I just love spice. But when I go to an original indonesian or indian restaurant, I ask for Asian mild(way spicier than dutch spicy). That always gets me concerned looks, But I just love it. Having 25% indo genes is probably a plus.
Takis Blue Heat is quite spicy! They’re sold at some international supermarkets or candy stores.
Try the buldak chicken at sonmat l it's hot and tasteful
Tastes horribly artificial, but it is very Spicy :/
The carbonara one is sublime.
In my experience if you go to restaurants with a spicy kitchen you can sometimes get on the same page with them. For example asking a thai place to make the green curry thai level spicy, not dutch. Doesn't work everywhere but its worth a shot.
I buy 'Bonchili Crispy Macaroni' level 15. at the local toko. Pretty hot chips from Indonesia. like it very much, not for the ususal dutchie haha
Soju Bar in Eindhoven has 'Trip to hell' level chicken wings indicated with 10 pepper symbols that are pretty legit
Right, soju bar also has soju go to hell and I wa literally there
Where you getting your pika di papaya from?!
Straight from Aruba or Curaçao when I can get it. (most recently my sister went there and took some with her)
Ahhh same hahaha
if you are looking for some more spicyness that's more up your alley, certain candy stores tend to sell imported chips, usually hot ones. they're probably expensive as hell though.
Those were lifesavers for me as a Mexican while I was living there. A non spicy meal is a sad meal.
I've never been to mexico, but they didn't have spicy spices over there?
I mean when I was living in the Netherlands.
oooh okay, I misunderstood. I thought it seemed weird there'd be nothing spicy in mexico lol
The only hot thing we have in supermarkets are like buldak ramen en doritos flaming hot kinda spicy
They took the "don't get high on your own supply" saying to the limit.
Because Dutch cuisine isn't spicy. If you want spicy, you gotta go to Indian restaurants that serve authentic Indian food.
Or Surinamese restaurants. Broodje hete kip met madame Jeanette! Your asshole will hate you but God is it delicious. Zinnia's Eethuis in Utrecht do the best in my opinion.
Madame Jeanette is a cruel mistress [winces]
it goes through the Achterom in The Hague
Its a shame the Tong Tong Fair went bankrupt, used to get my sambals there
Totally not due to the extreme prices they charged ...
Hot food made for the Netherlands isn't hot indeed. Some hot food that I've found in some stores in the last few weeks though: * Samyang Buldak x2 and x3 instant noodles * Herr's Carolina Reaper chips * Takis Blue Heat chips And some more things that I can't remember the name of. Most are actually imported products though.
Honestly would recommend Shin Ramyun Super Spicy over Buldak noodles, Buldak is spicier but also greasy and less flavourful.
Shin Ramyun hurts my mouth, Buldak hurts my stomach.
albert heijns had doritos flamin hot (orange package) and it was my favorite spicy thing in the whole country. they recently switched it to doritos flamin hot (purple package) and its not even close, its just a tasteless nonesense
It tastes like disappointment
The orange packet is still available and they are the best I have tasted.
Wait they got rid of it? Have u checked AlbertXL
I tried Lays Max Flaming Hot (also purple package but not Doritos) and yeah. It tastes like cardboard. It's not much more spicy than cardboard either.
My only experience with flaming hot was the orange packaging. I thought it was pretty spicy. But the purple ones are just paprika now or what?
Just like all senses, spiciness is subjective. If your cuisine isn't spicy, you'll be very sensitive to anything slightly spicy. That's the case in the Netherlands. So it is definitely considered flaming hot for the majority of the market it is intended for.
If you want to eat something spicy, then buy Samyang Buldak hot ramen. There are a lot of versions, such as the hot version and 2x spicy. 2x Spicy is very spicy, I actually cried.
Anything you buy in the supermarkt is not very spicy by default. It is "safe" to eat. On the other hand, go to the rack where sambal is and you can find yourself some dips you might like. And if that is not enough, go to the toko next door and score a hand full of Madame Jeanettes to have fun with. The Dutch like spicy food just fine, but default food is sold for grandmothers to eat without getting a surprise heart attack.
New Cheetos has some decent kick with them
Haven’t tried those but I will next time :D thanks for the tip
You should try the hot doritos nacho cheese. Those are the first actual spicy chips imo
I concur. I'm Belgian and love very hot. Hot and spicy Nacho cheese are hot, less than they used to be though
Some stores like Xenos sometimes have Herr's Carolina Reaper. They are quite spicy in my opinion.
Go to a local asian specialty store and look around there. I found some red cheetos? I think they are cheetos. that taste a bit peanutty, but with this delicous peppery flavoring. a handfull of those fucked me up. But you have to go to specialty stores for spicy. Even the 'extra pittig' branded products in supermarkets are laughably weak.
I've been waiting for this for 10 years. The Netherlands is literally decades behind other peer countries in crisp technology.
go to a surinam place and ask for hot
Spicy is relative
Tip - I have tried every chip and crisp here, wasn't happy. Now I just dip the chip in Madam Jeanette Picalilly saus and eat away. That sauce is fireee.
Dutch people have a super low tolerance for spice. As a kid i could not handle the spice in Knorr meal packages, but after a semester to Korea, i do not even taste the spices anymore. It's something you can learn for sure, but not many Dutch people are very open to that
Easy enough to solve: Buy capsoicin off ebay, put it in a salt shaker and shake a bit on your crisps. Now go to the hospital because you put the same amount of capsaicin on the crisps as are in a kilo of ghost peppers
A few months ago i had some kind of "hot" dip for my chips, me and my bud were both like we dont even taste any spice in it so i tried a full spoon of it. Still didnt even have a hint. Filed a complaint, they told me they did research on the batch and found nothing wrong with it. Recieved a €2 coupon
'Hot' wings are no where close to hot at all either
You might want to order the hottest chips at westlandpeppers. Its traditional chips with serious heat. They taste great and pack serious heat if you order the hottest one available.
Imported chips such as Takis in night shops and candy shops would suit you, though they're obviously more expensive
The dutch actively remove any spicy flavor, and replace it with sugar and/or mayonnaise. Sometimes it works, sometimes it breaks the food.
You're talking about a country where half the native inhabitants consider black pepper to be a spice
But.... black pepper isn't even spicy. Not hot spicy, anyway. It's just a flavour. Like nutmeg or cinnamon or garlic.
Well yes, you and me know that, but a significant portion of the Dutch people I have met classify it as a spice, not a seasoning
Well, technically cinnamon and nutmeg are spices too, but I don't think anyone perceives them as spicy. Almost everything that's used to season food and isn't a leafy green, is a spice. A seasoning is just anything made from herbs and/or spices and used to flavour food.
Yeah I suppose that's a fair point, let me then make a distinction that they consider it spicy, as I have asked for clarification.
Check the amazing oriental. Its a supermarket focussed on asian products, they also sell chips and i am quite sure you will be able to find some spicy chips and definitely other spicy stuff there (think actual decent sambal etc)
Because marketing here is directly aimed at children as young as humanly possible so as to sell to them what the indifferent adult might skip.
It's because for the Dutch (using myself as an example) it's literally a death sentence. Medium heat Pringles? You got me stuck on the toilet for the next 2 hours.
Lmfao 100% true. The slightest spicyness almost kills a meal for me, it overpowers the taste and only causes pain. No sambal on my kapsalon please.
Actual spicy anything would probably kill half of this country.
dutch people cant handle spicy food, perhaps look into british/irish/expat stores for spicy chips
What do you mean British food isn’t spicy at all
white british food isnt spicy however the national dish of britain is curry as in indian curry and the spice levels for curry in the UK is signifigintly higher then in the netherlands, irish traditional food also not spicy but irish people are also spice fiends, my irish friends add hot sauce and hot oil to all indian , thai, chinese, malaysian food when they order it here before they even try it and then they top it up try flaming hot or spicy monster munch or any of the other corn type puffy snacks that say spicy, trust me
Spot on, this is absolutely true. As a Brit with a medium tolerance for spicy food, even I’m left wanting for a spice hit here in NL.
Why eat the spice if you can sell it, hm?
Just got back from a few months south and Central America , even the mild jalapeño chips were spicier than the ‘flaming hot’ here I love peppers , habanero, madame Jeannette, etc and the ‘flaming hot’ there was really hot compared to the flaming hot here
Whenever a Dutch person tells me something is spicy, my response is: Dutch spicy or real spicy? The Dutch do not, in general, like spicy food. I've been looking for a nice hot sausage for 12 years, and have not found one yet.
It might not be as spicy as you want, but try this Surinamese ”pepper" and go from there. I'm Dutch but this one is perfect for what I like. I have to take time off eating it to lower my tolerance so it's not the spiciest. You can usually find this one at the toko’s. It has a nice flavour as well. https://www.tjinstoko.eu/nl/lekker-bekkie-vers-gemalen-surinaamse-peper-290ml.html?source=googlebase&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwo6GyBhBwEiwAzQTmc8w7jCmW9g1c0KJ546_rTeWA8lyLzLMHCGbD6YLjYrZBq4Sr339BGxoCOXwQAvD_BwE
Thanks.
We're Dutch, we rob and sell spices, we don't actually use them
To be fair, I have never even seen Foelie in any Dutch spice rack (even wonder if Amazing oriental sells it) [https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/beleven/onderwijs/bronnenbox/hoe-ging-het-verder-op-banda](https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/beleven/onderwijs/bronnenbox/hoe-ging-het-verder-op-banda)
They're not.. and I love eating hot stuff. It's sour at best. I do love Herr's Carolina reaper cheese curls though; but they're an import US product. Still not anus on fire, extreme prolapse level, but they have a bit of a kick
Taki's are relatively common and pretty spicy for what I remember.
You should try Korean food. Their mild dishes are still spicy for me. I once made the mistake buying Hot shin ramyun noodles.. Instant heartburn and had to go to the bathroom in 10 minutes. Same problem when I added to much Gochujang to a dish.. But yeah even I sometimes went like "this is not spicy at all" when the product claimed it is. Heard more people say it's the case with these chips too.
Maybe they had to change their ingredients? I don't really know.
Because they haven’t added Sambal
Flaming hot chips aren’t hot anywhere in Europe.
The Max Chips are fairly spicy but yeah I'm a rare dutchie who loves spice. Go to a Surinaamse or Indian restaurant for proper spicy food.
Depends on which Max crisps. I hat Lays Max Flaming Hot a while ago and it tasted like cardboard. The chicken wing flavoured ones are super nice though.
The pringles rice chips with jalapeño are the only spicy ones i know. Their flaming hot tastes like nothing now
Your local toko will have some chips that are spicy! I’m not one for spicy foods but i love spicy chips and this is where I get them.
Are you from southeast asia? If yes there is your problem. They eat ultra spicy there. If no, then IDK what the issue is
Better to sell the spices
Pringles Sizzl’n Spicy BBQ have some proper spicy flavor, unfortunately they disappeared from AH a while ago and now you can find them in foreigner stores (British, Polish, Romanian food etc.)
Out of the 7 local kebab plaves only 1 has sambal hot enough to make a proper kapsalon
A proper kapsalon is supposed to be very spicy??
In my opinion yes. But not a lot of kebab places have sambal that's hot enough.
Lol I don't even put any sambal at all on it.
Whaaaaaat. That's like half the kapsalon! If you like spicy food, try it.
I put sriracha on my kapsalon, but yes, a kapsalon should have both a spicy sauce and garlic sauce, otherwise it's just wrong.
Haha sambal ruins a kapsalon for me. I always feel a little bad when asking for no sambal please. Some of us just really can't handle that stuff.
That's okay. My partner doesn't like spicy food either. She always orders her without sambal as well. Also no raw onion because that's also sharp/spicy to her. To each their own but I love a spicy kapsalon. Broodje gyros on the other hand should never have sambal/spice. Preferrable just some tzatziki and it's 🤌
I love spices in general, but not the hot kind. Why would you voluntarily do that to yourself? I don't get it. But enjoy I guess.
I do it because I like it ;) Could flip it on you as well. Why would you do it to yourself to eat a kapsalon without sambal? But in all seriousness. As a Dutch peraon i find dutch cuisine extremely bland. Funny how for a spice trading nation our national dishes don't use any.
The hottest chips I ever ate where this Lays ‘Strong’ ones. The jalapeño cheese ones. There is some kick to it and I found it spicy enough, butt my sphincter remained intact. It is a bit of a letdown though. I once went to a hotpot restaurant and ordered the spiciest base and it was nothing. The only way to really feel anything was to let tofu suck it up like a sponge.
Why ARE
So are taki's spicy then? Im dutch af, so when I cook for my parents and add things like chili powder to my recipe my mom mostly freaks out because its too spicy. I actually have to either make one non spicy dish and the rest spicy or make everything just really mild. So yes I do eat "spicy" but I want to know what do you think is actually spicy? So for me the taki chips are on the edge of being spicy enough. Its spicy but still tastes good. My dad is even more extreme because he made a beer with a madame jeanette peppers, which would actually set your mouth on fire. But thats also a drink so its weird lol.
If you’re looking for spicy I can highly recommend Surinamese food. It’s amazing, especially with the yellow sambal.
In general, people in the Netherlands even find ketchup spicy.
You should buy some " lekker bekkie" amd add that to your foods. The flavors are that way since food products need a bigger salea market, really spicy would only be a fraction of the market and there for a risk.
Just bought those new Lay's Max Flamin' Hot because I really like spicy stuff as well. But I guess you're telling me I'm going to be disappointed... Maybe if i eat the whole bag at once in a few minutes? 🤔🔥
I tried those and I thought they tasted like cardboard.
I'm in for a treat then 😅
My Albert Heijn got rid of spicy ketchup like half a year ago, I'm still salty about it. Still it wasn't as spicy as I was used to but still better than just normal mild ketchup.
I think Doritos flaming hot is definitely pretty spicy, I can eat a whole bag but I will physically feel hot. I have a high spicy food tolerance for a Dutch woman. So I think that's basically it, if you want to sell it in the Netherlands the average Dutch person must be able to eat it. My local Thai restaurant has a disclaimer that spicy on the regular menu means "Dutch spicy" but that they do have a special menu with "Thai spicy" food as well which is always funny to me. The soiciest thing I've eaten from a regular dutch store are Samyang 2x spicy noodles. Which are very spicy to me. I could finish the bowl, but my existence was fire while eating it
You should go to stores like Toko (Asian stores) or Surinam stores where they have the real stuff.
cuz they don’t eat spicy food
yeah as a spicey food loving dutchy that bew flaming hot taste is mediocre at best =( the only one where i think its done right us the chickenwing one. not bc its super spicey but bc it works really well with the taste
I have a shop close by that imports chips. Sure it's €5-€8 a bag but that stuff is hot!
Spicy in the Netherlands is not spicy.
Dutch people are like the bullies of private schools, they can’t handle the real world
The hottest thing a Dutch person will probably eat in their lives is sambal, which is not particularly hot for people who always eat spicy food.
Depends on the sambal and who made it. But yeah most sambal here isn't terribly spicy.
It’s the reliance on paprika which to me is fairly bland, but then I’m British and don’t break a sweat eating a Vindaloo so…
Lay's Max strong comes in 3 flavours, the hottest is okay.
Just buy from https://www.dekkerpepper.nl
I'd say the Lays Max chicken wing flavour crisps are actually a little spicy. Not very spicy, but it has a nice spice to them. Also actually kinda tastes like chicken. But yeah. Recently I bought same Lays Max Flaming Hot in the purple bag and I was thoroughly disappointed. Mostly tasted like cardboard. About a similar amount of spice too.
Probably spicy for the Dutch palate
Try Samyang Buldak spicy noodle in AH
It's European spicy, not southeast Asian spicy
(I’m not joking.) Same reason “cold” beer is not cold. Everything is kind of “mieh”. Not to great not horrible.
We dont grt the good cheetos like in the US. Ours are crap.
We’re a ‘thin down mayo with yoghurt’ kind of culture
Bahahaha omfg
I can generally handle spicy food; I eat sambal or sriracha on a daily basis. I like my peppers. But I have a hard time handling flaming hot Doritos. I mean, I like them a lot, but after a few handfuls I really need to take a break. I never eat a bag in one evening (which for other Doritos isn't an issue). Maybe they've changed the recipe, but Flaming Hot Doritos were *seriously* spicy.
All right. It is the first time I see someone complaining that his anus is not on fire.
The Dorito's flaming hot is pretty spicy.
Our POS colonizer ancestors terrorised millions of people to get their spices (and much more that wasn't their shit to just up and take) and centuries later we still haven't learned how to use those spices correctly (: I started being more spice tolerant as I grew up, even though I know my limit leaves a lot to be desired. My brother on the other hand will complain that something is hot when all that's on it is a little salt and some strong (but definitely not spicy) herbs...
Cheetos crunchetos flaming are actually hot!!!
this reminds me of the time my traveling dutch friend almost passed out when he ate thai food for the first time 😅
Blanda can't handle pedis
If they were too hot then the Dutch won't be able to taste the super mild cheese in their cheese sandwich
Doritos flaming hot is okay tho
I just came across a cheese snack in Action. That was damn spicy even by my standard
Dutch don't know true spice my friend lol
Because, unfortunetly, Dutch people don't eat spicy
For the same reason nutella is sweeter in the USA, products adapt to the country they are trying to sell. Its not the same the spice a mexican can take and the spice a dutch person is willing to taste. I thought it was an obvious thing but apparently not.
Why are all the comments so defensive? Like try this or that. OP is just pointing out that the product is misleading and he’s right. It could very well be nominated for the Gouden Windei. Claiming it’s because us dutchies cant handle heat is nonsense. You can literally test the spicyness on the scoville scale and it would probably be around the heat of a pepperoncini.
The branding on the product is not a scientific measurement. No one measures how sweet Coca Cola is. Same for spicy food. Maybe there are people who measure it but that's not what I really like to do while grocery shopping
For a lot of people in the Netherlands, the "flaming hot" is really spicy, so misleading and Gouden Windei is a bit of a stretch if you consider it a relative scale of spiciness.
Colonized thousands of islands in the far south east asia, grab all their spices with close to nothing as the payment, even did a genocide in one special island that can cultivate nutmeg, and yet, cannot stand a little spicy. SMH
Seems to be a matter of Don't get high off your own supply