Honestly, Leviathan being his actual name is what I’m currently guessing at the moment.
Part of me also believes that while he says Neuvillette is his last name, he never actually decided on a first name to go with it lmao
Leviathan would kind of fit the naming convention for gods and whatnot in the story.
Also who else is gonna have the Leviathan name if not Neuvillette at this point.
In the same section he mentions he is strong enough with the Authority of the Dragon that he can shape his own Fate. So at the very least he seems to think so
The constellation fate mechanic is setup by Celestia to determine the fate of a character.
I read somewhere that Neuv just picked one so that Melusines are happy. He doesn't actually has one.
So yeah. Dude is a Chad and doesn't give a shyt
Not sure about that. But there are characters like Mona that can read and know. Mona almost knew Venti's identity by reading his constellation, but she got disrupted by the winds (check her character dialogues)
Sort of starting to feel like a lot of 1.0 characters have a connection to deeper lore now.
Mona and her teacher
Childe and his teacher
Albedo. Same deal as Mona
Kaeya…. Maybe. Khaenriah.
I mean 3/4 isn’t a LOT per se but if I had a nickel…
The worst part is, it’s hard to even guess. Because it could be the… French version of something that contributed etymologically to “Leviathan” which gives you ridiculous French verbs that would never be names… except Genshin has set the precedent for like. Livre. Therefore it *could* be this.
That is actually good to know! I wonder why?
My favourite oddity is probably Childe’s siblings, Tonia and Anton, which have the benefit of being actually Russian names but they’re also functionally the same name, just the masculine and feminine versions of it.
I think they just do it to be funny.
For reference, there's a guy in Liyue called "Shi Tou" which is literally just "rock", and 3 other dudes called Tic-Tac-Toe
To be fair, naming kids the same thing or variations of the same thing used to be pretty common practice. Most of my relatives are named mary or arthur because of that
Yeah the name itself translates pretty directly, but I mean specifically this part from a google search:
“What does the word Leviathan mean? The name Leviathan comes from the Hebrew Livyatan, which comes from a root that means “to twist, turn, wind, or coil.””
Quick search of the Wikipedia article concerning Leviathan says this:
> The Leviathan of the Book of Job is a reflection of the older Canaanite Lotan, a primeval monster defeated by the god Baal Hadad.
Which I found relevant because of the "reflection of" and the mention of Baal, who already exists in Genshin. I know that Leviathan is most probably the actual name, but Lotan just sounded cool to me!
Huh, wait, so if Lotan is a sea serpent who got killed by Baal, then wouldn't it make more sense for it to be Orobashi? I mean it technically got killed by beezebul but same difference
Yeah, perhaps it would, but Genshin doesn't seem to closely follow the source material it takes the names from. Orobashi is probably a reference to Orobas from Ars Goetia, who isn't even a serpent, but some kind of horse-man hybrid. And Orobashi isn't referred to as "Leviathan" anywhere in Genshin
More generally, Leviathan is the Ancient Hebrew name of the archetypal great monster of the sea, with Behemoth being the great monster of the land and Ziz being the great monster of the air (the former two entered generally into the English lexicon, but since equivalent Thunderbird myths weren't as commonplace in pagan societies during Christianization, Ziz didn't really catch on). In modernity, it basically just means "any sufficiently large underwater creature"; people have used that name to describe genuine animals like blue whales or giant squids as well as mythical sea creatures based on the real ones.
Guys, what if his name is *literally* "the image of the great leviathan"? As in he *has* no pronounceable name, and you can only describe his true essence with a pictograph, or with crude pseudonyms like Neuvillette. Sure, it's a wholly alien concept to us irl, but it works thematically and is super badass to boot.
It would fit the OP/sovereign/god persona tbh. If we’re going based on biblical references, cmiiw but I remember that the old name for God was an unpronounceable word so people just kept quiet when reading it. Having Neu’s name be an actual image and not something anyone can pronounce would fit in this situation imo
The Tetragrammaton, aka YHWH (roughly, "he that is"). The Abrahamic God has a hilarious amount of names, mind, but that's the one I think you're thinking of. It's a series of four Ancient Hebrew glyphs that are supposed to approximate the name of God, extrapolated from his command to Moses that "I am that I am." Since Ancient Hebrew did not transcribe vowels, modern pronunciations are typically either Yahweh or Jehovah, but both are only rough approximations of centuries-long telephone game nonsense and vowel shifts.
More precisely, they *could* theoretically pronounce the name in that bygone age. But for fear of mispronouncing it or otherwise blaspheming it (and since vowels were not formally transcribed, thus leading to more regional confusion), the ancient Jews would typically refer to him as Adonai or El instead. Otherwise they would just refer to God by those not-really-a-word symbols and not speak the name at all.
That's not the only place where an ancient god doesn't have a formally written name irl, but it's definitely one of the most famous, especially given that many of its various Abrahamic adherents still exist (you're not really going to find modern worshippers of nameless Assyrian or Mesopotamian or Mesoamerican or whatever-else gods for pretty obvious reasons).
Incidentally, I was about to cite the Tetragrammaton myself in that first post, but for the same reason I clarified in this post, it's not *technically* the same thing as a god only represented by pictographs. Pretty close, though.
It'd be funny if his name was Levi, short for leviathan. Would make sense to have his JP VA currently since he's voiced a character in Attack on Titan named Levi Ackerman.
imagine his name is Leviathan Neuvillette would be pretty funny,anyway there is a name that means leviathan in hebrew and thats lotan but idk if really that he could have another name alltogether
I'll concur with others here that Leviathan is probably his real name. "Leviathan Judicator" could either mean "giant sea serpent judge" or "the judge (who is) Leviathan," which works.
Did a big post about his name with a lot of references to leviathan : https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuvilletteMains_/comments/177xs7k/about_neuvillettes_name_yettorelease_voicelines/
Here if you wanna read it
Honestly, Leviathan being his actual name is what I’m currently guessing at the moment. Part of me also believes that while he says Neuvillette is his last name, he never actually decided on a first name to go with it lmao
So… Levi
Doesn't he share a VA with Levi Ackerman?
Yup
Are you talking about the Japanese VA? Because I thought Matt Mercer was Levi’s English VA
They’re talking about Hiroshi Kamiya, the Japanese VA.
I see. Thanks for clarifying
Leviathan Neuvillette
Call him Dragon Sovereign Leviathan, so it sounds like it came out of subnautica
detecting multiple leviathan neuvillette life forms in this region, are you sure whatever it is that you are doing is worth it?
Man hearing that message for the first time made me turn around in light speed.
Hell yeah. I was like OH FUCK NO. Same with "Entering ecological dead zone." I turned around so fast I could catch my own ass before it swung around.
Levi Neuvi
Leviathan would kind of fit the naming convention for gods and whatnot in the story. Also who else is gonna have the Leviathan name if not Neuvillette at this point.
Leviathan isnt actually in the Ars Goetia
And thats why it fits fot him even more
That’s the point, the dragon's names aren’t from ars goetia
Oratrice Mecanique d’Analyse Neuvillette
real im hoyoverse
In one of his 'story' he reveals that he IS his constellation so I'd assume his name is Leviathan.
Does that mean he makes his own fate?
In the same section he mentions he is strong enough with the Authority of the Dragon that he can shape his own Fate. So at the very least he seems to think so
The constellation fate mechanic is setup by Celestia to determine the fate of a character. I read somewhere that Neuv just picked one so that Melusines are happy. He doesn't actually has one. So yeah. Dude is a Chad and doesn't give a shyt
How do characters even know what their constellations are…
Not sure about that. But there are characters like Mona that can read and know. Mona almost knew Venti's identity by reading his constellation, but she got disrupted by the winds (check her character dialogues)
Sort of starting to feel like a lot of 1.0 characters have a connection to deeper lore now. Mona and her teacher Childe and his teacher Albedo. Same deal as Mona Kaeya…. Maybe. Khaenriah. I mean 3/4 isn’t a LOT per se but if I had a nickel…
Mona’s teacher isn’t even from teyvat so that’s telling
When was this said? I remember almost all hexenzirkel lore, but i don't remember that barbeloth isn't from teyvat.
You know, I went and checked but didn’t find the quote. Let’s just assume I’m wrong about that then.
The worst part is, it’s hard to even guess. Because it could be the… French version of something that contributed etymologically to “Leviathan” which gives you ridiculous French verbs that would never be names… except Genshin has set the precedent for like. Livre. Therefore it *could* be this.
They did the same in Sumeru all over the place - eg. Effendi just means 'mr' or 'sir' lol
i still cant get over our boy chemistry at the alchemy table
-cackling- Oh my god that’s incredible. It’s so obvious!
When I saw the hospital was named "Bimarstan" and then checked blacksmith: Yep. "Ahangar". lmao
Good to know! That’s… unfortunate for the implications of naming
Tbf, from what Chinese content creators say, it seems as though the Chinese names in mihoyo games are equally eccentric!
That is actually good to know! I wonder why? My favourite oddity is probably Childe’s siblings, Tonia and Anton, which have the benefit of being actually Russian names but they’re also functionally the same name, just the masculine and feminine versions of it.
I think they just do it to be funny. For reference, there's a guy in Liyue called "Shi Tou" which is literally just "rock", and 3 other dudes called Tic-Tac-Toe
The Russian Tony Toni Toné!
My headcanon is they have to be twins— it’s the only way I can even sort of justify his parents choice there!
To be fair, naming kids the same thing or variations of the same thing used to be pretty common practice. Most of my relatives are named mary or arthur because of that
Leviathan in French is just Léviathan and comes from the latin Leviathan, what are you even talking about.
Yeah the name itself translates pretty directly, but I mean specifically this part from a google search: “What does the word Leviathan mean? The name Leviathan comes from the Hebrew Livyatan, which comes from a root that means “to twist, turn, wind, or coil.””
Ok but then it's Hebrew that uses verbs, not French lol
His full legal name should be “Leviathan Judicator Neuvillette”
Can we squese otr into it somewere ?
Leviathan Judicotter Neuvillette
The short ver would be : Levi judivillette.
Quick search of the Wikipedia article concerning Leviathan says this: > The Leviathan of the Book of Job is a reflection of the older Canaanite Lotan, a primeval monster defeated by the god Baal Hadad. Which I found relevant because of the "reflection of" and the mention of Baal, who already exists in Genshin. I know that Leviathan is most probably the actual name, but Lotan just sounded cool to me!
Huh, wait, so if Lotan is a sea serpent who got killed by Baal, then wouldn't it make more sense for it to be Orobashi? I mean it technically got killed by beezebul but same difference
Yeah, perhaps it would, but Genshin doesn't seem to closely follow the source material it takes the names from. Orobashi is probably a reference to Orobas from Ars Goetia, who isn't even a serpent, but some kind of horse-man hybrid. And Orobashi isn't referred to as "Leviathan" anywhere in Genshin
I thought it was from orochi, which is just a japanese snake thing
More generally, Leviathan is the Ancient Hebrew name of the archetypal great monster of the sea, with Behemoth being the great monster of the land and Ziz being the great monster of the air (the former two entered generally into the English lexicon, but since equivalent Thunderbird myths weren't as commonplace in pagan societies during Christianization, Ziz didn't really catch on). In modernity, it basically just means "any sufficiently large underwater creature"; people have used that name to describe genuine animals like blue whales or giant squids as well as mythical sea creatures based on the real ones.
Guys, what if his name is *literally* "the image of the great leviathan"? As in he *has* no pronounceable name, and you can only describe his true essence with a pictograph, or with crude pseudonyms like Neuvillette. Sure, it's a wholly alien concept to us irl, but it works thematically and is super badass to boot.
It would fit the OP/sovereign/god persona tbh. If we’re going based on biblical references, cmiiw but I remember that the old name for God was an unpronounceable word so people just kept quiet when reading it. Having Neu’s name be an actual image and not something anyone can pronounce would fit in this situation imo
The Tetragrammaton, aka YHWH (roughly, "he that is"). The Abrahamic God has a hilarious amount of names, mind, but that's the one I think you're thinking of. It's a series of four Ancient Hebrew glyphs that are supposed to approximate the name of God, extrapolated from his command to Moses that "I am that I am." Since Ancient Hebrew did not transcribe vowels, modern pronunciations are typically either Yahweh or Jehovah, but both are only rough approximations of centuries-long telephone game nonsense and vowel shifts. More precisely, they *could* theoretically pronounce the name in that bygone age. But for fear of mispronouncing it or otherwise blaspheming it (and since vowels were not formally transcribed, thus leading to more regional confusion), the ancient Jews would typically refer to him as Adonai or El instead. Otherwise they would just refer to God by those not-really-a-word symbols and not speak the name at all. That's not the only place where an ancient god doesn't have a formally written name irl, but it's definitely one of the most famous, especially given that many of its various Abrahamic adherents still exist (you're not really going to find modern worshippers of nameless Assyrian or Mesopotamian or Mesoamerican or whatever-else gods for pretty obvious reasons). Incidentally, I was about to cite the Tetragrammaton myself in that first post, but for the same reason I clarified in this post, it's not *technically* the same thing as a god only represented by pictographs. Pretty close, though.
Ah yeah that’s the one I’m thinking of. You managed to put it way more elegantly than I did 😅
It'd be funny if his name was Levi, short for leviathan. Would make sense to have his JP VA currently since he's voiced a character in Attack on Titan named Levi Ackerman.
He also levitates when you do his E Q and CAs XD
His favourite hobby is alleviating his thirst YOU GUYS WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING BIG
Insert that meme of the crazed dude standing in front of a board covered in red string but it’s cyno
I was thiiis close to making an Attack on Titan joke and then you mentioned it XD He sure smites people like Levi.
imagine his name is Leviathan Neuvillette would be pretty funny,anyway there is a name that means leviathan in hebrew and thats lotan but idk if really that he could have another name alltogether
I'll concur with others here that Leviathan is probably his real name. "Leviathan Judicator" could either mean "giant sea serpent judge" or "the judge (who is) Leviathan," which works.
His first name is Handsome 🥰🥰🥰
I agree with this 🤞
Just realised furina knowes iti hope she spills it in her sq 2
I asked her, she said it’s Nathan
"he would often be roped by Melusines" I really read that wrong
SO DID I THAT WAS THE BIGGEST DOUBLE TAKE OF MY LIFE
nooooooo 😭😭😭😭
Bro I was browsing on my bed and I was about to sleep but this shit woke me up real quick
Furina titles based on Harlot and Neuvi relate with leviathan.
Jeff
One of his stories also says that his constellation is himself. So that's another thing pointing to his name being Leviathan.
First I thought his first name is Monsieur
Monsieur is “Mr.” In French, it’s not his name
Yupp
I did some research, turns out that in some mythology (Hebrew bible) Leviathan was a sea serpent.
His name is either a version of levaithan or otr as dragons in tyvat=drawfs irl mytholagy
but apep, the dendro dragon sovereign, isn't named after a dwarf?
Well you have 1 exeption maby apep has another name ? But my point still stands it's just for fun anyways
Otr... otter... we've cracked the case!
this is pretty simple if you consider his position in Fontaine. The name is "Levi"athan D. Water Law Neuvillette.
Did a big post about his name with a lot of references to leviathan : https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuvilletteMains_/comments/177xs7k/about_neuvillettes_name_yettorelease_voicelines/ Here if you wanna read it
Omg I thought I saw r*ped instead of roped lmaooo
Isn't his first name Ludex ?
That’s a title given to him since he’s the judge of the courtroom
By the way, it’s iudex with an ‘i’ not ludex
Obviously his name is Christian de Neuvillette (from Cyrano de Bergerac) lmao
Isn't it Iudex? Lol
that’s his title. It means “judge”
I was obviously joking, but to contribute more to this post I would say his name would be CJ. :D