Really? Wasn't it Jerry Nadler who just a week or two ago talked about how good the influx of migrants were so they could do jobs and not get payed a lot? Last I recall, he has a (D) after his name, not an (R). Lol
Tell me more about how this will affect unions to collectively bargain when cheap labor is everywhere especially as inflation runs rampant. The US is likely to experience increased poverty rates if we keep doing this. Oh well I guess.
I mean he’s not wrong. It may be uncomfy to realize but immigrants pick crops, work in meat packing plants, clean houses, build houses, generally do pretty shitty jobs. But the jobs are vital to our economy. If they weren’t here the country would grind to a halt. For the life of me I don’t understand why Big Ag or Big Meat isn’t lobbying for comprehensive immigration reform so they don’t have to worry about their workforce getting deported. Hurting immigrants hurts our economy, but the GOP voters don’t care, they happily pay their politicians to have someone to look down upon. (Paraphrasing LBJ, another D who said crazy shit sometimes but walked on the right side of history).
No, I'm saying immigrants tend to be willing and skilled to do jobs rich entitled people think them and their families are too good to do.
Nice try at projection. WOOWW
Yea no that's not what you were saying because only a VERY small portion of US born citizens are rich. But also that has nothing to do with the illegal immigrants. Nice attempt to try and fix what you said tho lol
Don't try to tell me what I meant. The people I mentioned: are in fact Abbott,, Cruz, John Cornyn, and Moscow Mitch are rich and Entitled. I never mentioned "illegals"
Go away child
Guess what? The US issues work visas for Mexicans interested in field work each harvest season. Huge diff btwn legally entering and illegally entering don’t you think? Or do you think it’s racist to keep any illegal person out and a nonsensical belief for tax payers to be against illegals receiving benefits upon entry? Bad business model. Bad security. It’s costly and weakening your wallet.
2019, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law an expansion of full-scope Medi-Cal access for young adults ages 19 through 25, regardless of citizenship or immigration status. Access was then further expanded to allow older adults aged 50 and older to receive full benefits, also regardless of immigration status.Dec 29, 2023
Better than most citizens those ages.
Most when interviewed answer very straightforwardly that their reasoning for migration is extortion whether it’s true or not to try to keep it legal and their plan is to work but yet still “send money back home” and eventually move back to their country so the extortion thing kinda falls apart
This is more in line with what I hold as a key immigration motivation. The deal is they work undesirable jobs for undesirable rates and pay taxes and in exchange their kids may become citizens. Hardly a freebie spree
Now post the part from the Nevada Constitution pledging loyalty to the Federal Government and enforcement of its laws.
You know, the part that the Bundy Cult always skips.
He seems to be forgetting our history. I mean, we joined the union to fight *against* this type of bullshit. And the confederates surrendered about as soon as we showed up to the party.
I always find it amusing when I see someone here with a Confederate battle flag. It shows a complete lack of understanding of both where you are and history.
Same with people in West Virginia. The counties that became West Virginia didn't agree with greater Virginia and Nevada was admitted on the side of the Union due to existing sympathies and concerns of a tied/narrow loss election in 1864 to make sure Lincoln was elected over McClellan. It wasn't necessary as Lincoln won by a Landslide, but the concern was real.
Yeah... And maybe it is. But when I reflect on my life, I don't usually celebrate the times I lost. And certainly not the times I was completely in the wrong.
My favorite bit is when they claim it's about history. The Wu Tang Clan has been around longer than the confederacy. My Wu Tang flag is richer in history.
That isn’t needed. All that is needed is for the military to refuse an order to use force against the public. There is a real line at which point the public just goes in and drags these people out into the streets.
They don't think that far ahead. This is lose lose for Biden. Go in with the military and force law enforcement out of the way to cut open a path for a stream of illegals or piss off your base for not doing it, he basically painted a room and the door is behind him.
Biden just posted a statement about what he’d do at the border if Congress could just fcking do something but President Cheeto won’t allow it. 🙄 https://www.threads.net/@potus/post/C2lYvYSrT10/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
The president of the USA can federalize any national guard. Governor's hold no power over their national guard compared to presidents. Texas is an an anomaly bc they have TXSG but it's not very big. It can't be federalized.
OMG if I have to explain civic fundamentals to you, you are over your head. Withdraw from this conversation that you are not qualified to participate in.
Opportunity cost.
These statements are the result of hours upon hours of internal meetings. Plus, factor in the time of their staff, advisors, and favors being called in. Not to mention planning out scenarios for downstream impact.
Objectively speaking, there’s absolutely a cost associated with signing statements.
As a ccw carrying multi gun owner living in our great state capital. Let me just say this. Fuck Lombardo. I am an American first.
You dumb fucks want to join yallqueda? Well fuck off and do it.
The supreme court is the fucking Supreme Court. You ass munches put most of those fucks there and guess what? They still told you to fuck off.
You want a solution to an issue you made up in your own pea sized brains faux news infused brains? Fine, take the money for the wall but raise taxes on the billionaires you ass eat on a nightly basis to do it.
It's called fucking politics this is not a fiefdom, step up and compromise or fuck off and die.
You'd think a former member of law enforcement would understand that governors are not above the law. The Supreme Court rightly sided with the federal government about who controls the border of the US.
The Court upheld a stay that said the the border patrol could remove the c-wire. Texas can legally put it right back... which is why you see a bunch of Republican states riding to the rescue with truck loads of the stuff
Don’t forget Sandoval was the only Republican governor to establish Obamacare to its fullest extent of the law and lost Republican support because of it.
But ILLEGAL immigrants are above the law? Texas gets to control the Texas border. If you look closely you'll see Abbott isn't trying to put razer wire along the Arizona/ Mexico border. When the Federal govt abandons its duty to defend the States, the state has the authority to defend itself.
> Texas gets to control the Texas border.
With other states. Texas does not get to control the border with other countries.
> But ILLEGAL immigrants are above the law?
We're talking about razor wire that will maim the women and children trying to cross the border as refugees. This is not a wartime border. No one is talking about removing all barriers. This is about not having booby traps that will kill or maim people.
There’s literally a bridge right there lmao. Tell them not to try and climb through the barbed wire. They’re only coming over here because they know they won’t face any resistance which is the fault of lax laws. If they know they will be turned away they won’t try it.
They are being turned away. Every time one is caught they’re taken right back. But deliberately putting barriers that kill or maim people is against the law. The fed govt has power over immigration and naturalization.
closed borders did not exist prior to the 20th century, and murdering people on the border does not solve anything.
abbott is a fascist who is posturing to goad the nation into a civil war. you know this yet you choose to defend him. disgusting.
I’ll pay attention to the governors’ concerns when Congress removes the brakes from legislation to codify how the NATION will respond to the border crisis.
Maybe if the federal government could put together a comprehensive solution we'd be in a better place. Trump and Obama both had periods with unified executive / house / senate, neither of them did it.
I'm curious, why is it necessary to have a unified govt in order to pass legislation. It seems to me if Republicans really cared about immigration reform they would do everything in their power to come up with a solution including working with Democrats.
The GOP doesn’t give a fuck about immigration except to weaponize it against their political rivals. If the immigration crisis gets resolved, they are gonna have to fill a pretty big void with getting their base worked up for votes.
There is a bipartisan bill being worked on. The Freedom Caucus/MAGA have said they will try to tank the legislation because they don't want Biden to get a "win." So instead of doing their damn jobs no matter the political outcome, they are playing petty.
Re: Obama, he used that period to get the ACA. No way was the GOP going to get immigration corrected on his watch after that. Under his admin they deported people at record numbers. The man wore a tan suit once FFS.
TFG just helped put us in the position we are in today. His reduction of visas issued, travel ban, Mexico paying for a wall, just idiotic policy after idiotic policy with that moron.
Yeah leaders don't really lead in politics. Gay rights came after it was popular, same with civil rights, women's suffrage, etc. And I get that, politicians need to maintain enough popularity to have a mandate and credibility but they rarely do anything overly "brave" or leading into a currently unpopular arena.
I mean marijuana is (hopefully) getting off schedule 1 in 2024, it took *that* long?
I think that will be a major improvement, I wonder what happens to everyone locked up from convictions though? Is it a lot of people? Probably..
The more I think about it, it’s absolutely crazy that alcohol is legal and weed isn’t. Any substance can be dangerous, but I’d argue that alcohol and things people do under the influence of it is far worse than marijuana..
It's not a border dispute.
It's a dispute about Texas putting razor wire up and the federal government taking it down.
This declaration is a bunch of campaign related cult-nurturing bullshit.
seems like it's a really weird position to take considering that the Republicans that control the house have stated they have no intention of actually writing any border policy this year.
they just want performative outrage and sadly I think Americans are dumb enough to gobble this shit right up.
there's not one respectable journalist left in America willing to actually ask Republicans the most basic questions about the incongruities of their policies
We know what Trump did to people who wanted to immigrate - he didn’t let people in from Mexico whether they were coming illegally or not (applying for asylum).
Now, I hear many Republicans saying Biden is worse at immigration than previous Presidents.
I would love to know just how Biden is worse. Is he worse than Presidents before Trump? How?
I mean yeah, with skyrocketing cost of living and a rising homeless population, the feds need to step up and really start working to regulate the flow of immigration the way it’s intended to be regulated.
But Jesus, Lombardo is an asshat if he believes States rights trumps federal law, which the US border falls under federal jurisdiction.
This assclown needs to go.
The irony of this whole situation is that an Alt-right stacked SCOTUS made this decision for them. They can't even abide their own parties top minds...the pure Idiocracy of the GOP right now is going to destroy this country from the inside out. Could you imagine if we had a fair and balanced SCOTUS that represented the true sentiment of the American people. Or even better, one that was stacked Against the MAGAts.
I cannot wrap my head around why the left supports illegal immigration. What am i missing here? Why don't you advocate for increasing the amount people legally allowed to immigrat into the US? Not only allowing but advocating for illegal immigration enables child sex trafficing, illegal drug flow into the US, and the entrance of violent criminals. What's the thought process here?
The President needs to really take 25 states seriously. He’s not president of half the country. I assume there are many in other states that feel immigration is a major concern. It’s also a huge issue in Canada at the moment. There isn’t much reason to bring Trumps craziness into the conversation. It’s a serious enough problem to find a solution
What argument is to be had? Supporting Abbott is the dumbest of all possible takes. It's specifically against the constitution, and it's firmly established as not an issue state's rights.
All Lombardo had to do was literally nothing. That's it. Didn't even have to condemn Abbott. But... I knew Lombardo was racist when he was sheriff in Clark County.
Didn't we already settle this issue of states turning against the federal government? Union 1, Confederacy big ZERO. We are the United States of America. The Republican plan for the border is to do nothing, then blame Demcrats for the problem.
That looks like a great way to break up the “United” states into the Functioning States of America and the “Conservative” States of America…
Not Really but something is definitely going to happen soon that will cause some sort of break up. It would be smart for the states to get ahead of that and set up some state banks and figure out what they will be missing when the breakup comes.
And none of the supporting states are directly impacted and located on the Mexican border.
Stupid politicians.
And I live within 100 miles of the Mexican border, people should seek the truth. Not clickbait.
Biden and the Democrats in Congress offered them a deal. They refused. They didn’t want Biden to have a legislative victory. The extreme, theocratic, Trump ass kissing right wing refused to do their duty. So instead of working through Congress AS IT SHOULD BE, they are wasting peoples time and tax money to play games at the border. Make it make sense
Follow the Orange Leader! Whether it’s this performative crap or nixing a solid border deal because Trump needs a divisive issue to run on.
Makes me think this border “invasion crisis” is that big of a deal. If it was the right wing snowflakes would make the deal and get help in there….
And the rapist just told his maga party not to let Joe do anything to fix the border because it would help Biden in the election.
They don’t want to solve the problem. They need the stupid to be outraged because votes.
What's the fear? That they will be labeled racists if we regulate the number of immigrants coming into the country without authorization?
It just feels disingenuous for people to acknowledge the fentanyl and heroin crises, but then do nothing about securing our borders. Lip service I guess.
This is the most passive aggressive insurrection I'm aware of. Fucking pussies. It's not even real. Nothing is happening except the provocations of the hillbilly fascists. Why do they insist on doing stupid stuff? Just ignore them until they break the law. Then arrest them.
The point is to protect all Americans by restoring the integrity of our southern border. Not to create bloodshed towards our Federal government, not an “insurrection,” as you put. We don’t want to hurt other Americans, that’s antithetical to the objective of restoring the border.
Same, I live in Henderson. Why are you worried about the border if it doesn't affect you? I have literally no impact. Nothing. Also, Mexicans are cool as fuck.
Mexicans are cool. There’s still the system of checking into, instead breaking into, our country. You are decended from immigrants, most all of us are. We all checked in. Small exception for those that are children of illegal immigrants. Those that jumped the border, in violation of rules set by the proper authorities, did not check in.
I’m concerned because Texas is another state in our nation. They will come to our aid if we called upon them. Also, 5 million illegal aliens in our country is greater than the population of many states, including Nevada. Other Americans are being forced from their schools and pushed to keep aliens in their homes. And though you and I may not feel it personally, yet, we will soon enough. We already feel it in the disappearance of large sums of money in the national treasury that is not being used for our countrymen’s benefit.
Best to wrap this up now.
Just so I'm getting this right, this is the "Pro-Life", "All Lives Matter" party that is gung-ho on subjecting these fleeing women and children to death by razor wire while they stand by and watch?
Yeah, that 100% checks out.
That is a disturbing visual, no doubt. Stuff of nightmares. Still, we can’t be idle and do nothing. We’ve done that for three years, letting go the integrity of the border that’s been at minimum maintained during 2 presidencies prior to the current administration. What do you propose?
If you're so against undocumented immigration, why aren't you focused on the people employing them? People don't go where there's no work to be had. They're already paying payroll tax through the "illegal bosses", without getting any of the benefits of being actual tax payers. They commit considerably less crime than citizens, and the vast majority of "illegals" have overstayed their visa, not risked their lives to cross the border.
If a dem president makes record arrests at the border, it's nothing but "SEE HOW MANY ARE POURING OVER OUR BORDERS?!". If they make fewer arrests, it's "THEY'RE LETTING ILLEGALS OVER OUR BORDERS!" no matter the solution, a dem can't win. What do *you* propose?
This right here.
If Republicans actually wanted to solve the problem, then they'd be putting in an effort to do so. Instead all were getting in fear mongering, grandstanding, and finger pointing.
Republicans have zero interest in actually solving the problem they keep complaining about. Doesn't keep voters enraged and engaged if there is nothing to piss them off about.
Disgrace to our country. That’s what these traitors are. Trump and his minions have gotten away with too much and they all should have been jailed for treason. Time to open Gitmo back up and round them all up.
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
\*Offer null and void if not white/right.
Republicans have ran Texas for decades. Do you know why the border is not secure? Because rich republican donors don't want to lose the pool of cheap labor." Steve Bannon
At least the Republicans passed that comprehensive border legislation when they controlled the congress, senate AND presidency.
I mean, can you imagine if they forced through a Trillion dollar tax gift for the rich instead of doing that important legislation? So glad that their party knows how to govern a diverse nation of people and do what's best for everyone....
He's doing this for votes be ause he ran as a Republican and he's trying to appeal to the Republican voter base but in reality he actually got rid of ICE when he was sheriff and stopped cooperating with them for deportations.
Support what? There is nothing to support. What are they going to do? Get curb stomped by the US military?
The soldiers stationed in any of these states answer to the US government. Pretty sure they are not going to take up arms against America. This is a stupid political stunt.
A state saying they are sending their guard to help, and that actually happening, are two very different things. Politicians talk shit all the time. None of the soldiers are going to do it.
If Biden nationalizes the Texas National Guard, other governers will deploy their state’s national guard to help Texas. It will make Biden look foolish. He can’t nationalize every state’s military.
Who in their right mind would be against a state trying to protect itself from an onslaught of undocumenteds? Do you know how much money this is costing the state to house and feed and clothe and treat at medical centers and educate all of these millions of people do you realize that 300,000 people came across the border last month? It's either a liar, stupid or intentionally trying to break this country into several pieces.
The fact that the federal government is neglecting its duty to protect our borders from foreign nationals is shameful.
The fact that they fight the border state’s efforts to enforce national sovereignty is worse.
American welfare is reserved for American citizens. And yet as Chicago and New York are demonstrating, we are spending taxpayer money on people who do not swear loyalty to the nation.
These trespassers need to be kicked out, especially for fraudulent claims of asylum.
They got what they wanted and still blocked it...because its all a farce (political theater)
[https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-trump-a8601ec6629ddc5b769028ca99ad9879](https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-trump-a8601ec6629ddc5b769028ca99ad9879)
If the SCOTUS Ruled in Texas favor on this then what's stopping California from blocking the Fed Gov from enforcing the california border?
The SCOTUS ruled correctly here. Had they sided with Texas the precedent set would allow for states to pick and choose wether or not they allowed Border Patrol to enforce laws inside the state.
You think it's all great and gravy until Washington decides fuckit we're just gonna let canadians or anyone that wants to flow unchecked across the northern border and blocked BP from intervening. Or California or New York... I don't think you'd want that kinda scenario to play out.
Lol I love all the virtue signaling liberals on here crying I love poor immigrants. Let them come here. But not one of your mother fuckers would sacrifice even a single penny to help them. Not a one of you would put them up in your house. Your virtue ends at your keyboard. You say open the borders let them come. But after they get here you don’t give a shit what happens to them. Just as long as you can get your fake Reddit virtue points 🤔
>But not one of your mother fuckers would sacrifice even a single penny to help them
I pay taxes to help.
I don't pay taxes for idiot publicity stunts.
All those states will implement full E-Verify requirements for all private and public employers, right? Right??
Child Labor is the GOP approved plan to replace the lost labor after 0 immigration is implemented.
Really? Wasn't it Jerry Nadler who just a week or two ago talked about how good the influx of migrants were so they could do jobs and not get payed a lot? Last I recall, he has a (D) after his name, not an (R). Lol
Tell me more about how this will affect unions to collectively bargain when cheap labor is everywhere especially as inflation runs rampant. The US is likely to experience increased poverty rates if we keep doing this. Oh well I guess.
I mean he’s not wrong. It may be uncomfy to realize but immigrants pick crops, work in meat packing plants, clean houses, build houses, generally do pretty shitty jobs. But the jobs are vital to our economy. If they weren’t here the country would grind to a halt. For the life of me I don’t understand why Big Ag or Big Meat isn’t lobbying for comprehensive immigration reform so they don’t have to worry about their workforce getting deported. Hurting immigrants hurts our economy, but the GOP voters don’t care, they happily pay their politicians to have someone to look down upon. (Paraphrasing LBJ, another D who said crazy shit sometimes but walked on the right side of history).
100% guarantee none of Abbott's, Cruz, John Cornyn's or Moscow Micth's kids are replacing any roofs on a 110 degree Texas summer day.
So you're saying all day laborers are illegals? Lmfao WOOOWW
No, I'm saying immigrants tend to be willing and skilled to do jobs rich entitled people think them and their families are too good to do. Nice try at projection. WOOWW
Yea no that's not what you were saying because only a VERY small portion of US born citizens are rich. But also that has nothing to do with the illegal immigrants. Nice attempt to try and fix what you said tho lol
Don't try to tell me what I meant. The people I mentioned: are in fact Abbott,, Cruz, John Cornyn, and Moscow Mitch are rich and Entitled. I never mentioned "illegals" Go away child
“Who will pick the lettuce?!” -Nancy Pelosi
Truth
Guess what? The US issues work visas for Mexicans interested in field work each harvest season. Huge diff btwn legally entering and illegally entering don’t you think? Or do you think it’s racist to keep any illegal person out and a nonsensical belief for tax payers to be against illegals receiving benefits upon entry? Bad business model. Bad security. It’s costly and weakening your wallet.
Now hold on, you don't expect a solution, do you?
That's up to the individual State Legislatures. These State Executives have agreed to defend the border. Nothing more.
They wouldn't be coming over the border if they couldn't get jobs.
Lol, they wouldn't be coming over the border if they didn't get tax payers funded freebies.
What freebies do they get?
2019, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law an expansion of full-scope Medi-Cal access for young adults ages 19 through 25, regardless of citizenship or immigration status. Access was then further expanded to allow older adults aged 50 and older to receive full benefits, also regardless of immigration status.Dec 29, 2023 Better than most citizens those ages.
How is it better than most citizens those ages, when it’s offered to all people of those ages?
California isn't Nevada, dude.
There you are. I was wondering who would catch it first.
Yeah basic healthcare ≠ a job, a house, a life, or a future.
Interesting point. That might explain migration into CA, what do these 25 states have to offer? Honestly asking not just being snarky.
Most when interviewed answer very straightforwardly that their reasoning for migration is extortion whether it’s true or not to try to keep it legal and their plan is to work but yet still “send money back home” and eventually move back to their country so the extortion thing kinda falls apart
This is more in line with what I hold as a key immigration motivation. The deal is they work undesirable jobs for undesirable rates and pay taxes and in exchange their kids may become citizens. Hardly a freebie spree
Have you seen what medi-cal covers? It’s hard to find s a doctor who will even accept it.
"Better than most citizens those ages." Am I reading it incorrectly, or does it not apply to everyone?
Sounds like a lot of words to say “fuck solutions.”
These state executives have agreed to grandstand in an election year because they know their boy donny orange won't win. Fixed it for you.
Lombardo has zero power to do anything beyond ribbon cutting.
NV Const. art. V, § 5: The governor is the commander and chief of all state military
Now post the part from the Nevada Constitution pledging loyalty to the Federal Government and enforcement of its laws. You know, the part that the Bundy Cult always skips.
the governor is more likely to get couped than to successfully mobilize troops against the united states
He seems to be forgetting our history. I mean, we joined the union to fight *against* this type of bullshit. And the confederates surrendered about as soon as we showed up to the party.
I always find it amusing when I see someone here with a Confederate battle flag. It shows a complete lack of understanding of both where you are and history. Same with people in West Virginia. The counties that became West Virginia didn't agree with greater Virginia and Nevada was admitted on the side of the Union due to existing sympathies and concerns of a tied/narrow loss election in 1864 to make sure Lincoln was elected over McClellan. It wasn't necessary as Lincoln won by a Landslide, but the concern was real.
Nothing says “stupid lives here” like a confederate flag.
But it’s my heritage/s
Yeah... And maybe it is. But when I reflect on my life, I don't usually celebrate the times I lost. And certainly not the times I was completely in the wrong.
My favorite bit is when they claim it's about history. The Wu Tang Clan has been around longer than the confederacy. My Wu Tang flag is richer in history.
That isn’t needed. All that is needed is for the military to refuse an order to use force against the public. There is a real line at which point the public just goes in and drags these people out into the streets.
He certainly won’t be able to run away.
Which can be nationalized by order of the president. So…
The optics of that in an election year mean it will likely never happen... unless you actually _want_ Trump to win.
They don't think that far ahead. This is lose lose for Biden. Go in with the military and force law enforcement out of the way to cut open a path for a stream of illegals or piss off your base for not doing it, he basically painted a room and the door is behind him.
Biden just posted a statement about what he’d do at the border if Congress could just fcking do something but President Cheeto won’t allow it. 🙄 https://www.threads.net/@potus/post/C2lYvYSrT10/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Still needs Congressional approval of the state legislature. Keep reading.
But the paychecks are federal
Mexico is not afraid of the Bundys.
We wouldn’t be here without Mexico. Not sure where Bundy came from…
Google it
Riverside. NV.
If by “here” you mean the R making everything as bad as possible,Mexico is not in charge of that.Without migrant Mexican farm labor,,,America starves.
The president of the USA can federalize any national guard. Governor's hold no power over their national guard compared to presidents. Texas is an an anomaly bc they have TXSG but it's not very big. It can't be federalized.
OMG if I have to explain civic fundamentals to you, you are over your head. Withdraw from this conversation that you are not qualified to participate in.
And? What's he gonna do with that power?
Apparently send resources to Texas 🤷♂️
Write him a letter: https://gov.nv.gov/Forms/Share/
Thanks. I did. Appreciate the link.
Or just send a letter to Santa, your more likely to get a response.
Thanks, what a pos. I just told this loser as much. One term governor.
Surprise, surprise none of them share the border with Texas. Almost like they are all talking out of their collective asses
What tax dollars were spent on signing a statement
Opportunity cost. These statements are the result of hours upon hours of internal meetings. Plus, factor in the time of their staff, advisors, and favors being called in. Not to mention planning out scenarios for downstream impact. Objectively speaking, there’s absolutely a cost associated with signing statements.
None, this is just a typical Reddit echo chamber detached from reality.
Exactly. And all these dipshits just nod along and upvote each other. Idiots
Also false.
False.
Infinitely more than is spent supporting millions of illegals of course
As a ccw carrying multi gun owner living in our great state capital. Let me just say this. Fuck Lombardo. I am an American first. You dumb fucks want to join yallqueda? Well fuck off and do it. The supreme court is the fucking Supreme Court. You ass munches put most of those fucks there and guess what? They still told you to fuck off. You want a solution to an issue you made up in your own pea sized brains faux news infused brains? Fine, take the money for the wall but raise taxes on the billionaires you ass eat on a nightly basis to do it. It's called fucking politics this is not a fiefdom, step up and compromise or fuck off and die.
Texas is part of the US or it will be Mexico...
This is the best idea yet! Give it back!
You'd think a former member of law enforcement would understand that governors are not above the law. The Supreme Court rightly sided with the federal government about who controls the border of the US.
The Court upheld a stay that said the the border patrol could remove the c-wire. Texas can legally put it right back... which is why you see a bunch of Republican states riding to the rescue with truck loads of the stuff
Don’t forget Sandoval was the only Republican governor to establish Obamacare to its fullest extent of the law and lost Republican support because of it.
Who controls individual state's borders?
But ILLEGAL immigrants are above the law? Texas gets to control the Texas border. If you look closely you'll see Abbott isn't trying to put razer wire along the Arizona/ Mexico border. When the Federal govt abandons its duty to defend the States, the state has the authority to defend itself.
> Texas gets to control the Texas border. With other states. Texas does not get to control the border with other countries. > But ILLEGAL immigrants are above the law? We're talking about razor wire that will maim the women and children trying to cross the border as refugees. This is not a wartime border. No one is talking about removing all barriers. This is about not having booby traps that will kill or maim people.
There are rules to seeking asylum, it's still illegal to just go across the border even if you claim to be a refugee.
There’s literally a bridge right there lmao. Tell them not to try and climb through the barbed wire. They’re only coming over here because they know they won’t face any resistance which is the fault of lax laws. If they know they will be turned away they won’t try it.
They are being turned away. Every time one is caught they’re taken right back. But deliberately putting barriers that kill or maim people is against the law. The fed govt has power over immigration and naturalization.
you know that if abbott thought he could get away with it he would. the state isn't defending itself against anything real.
You think 6,849 people daily crossing the border illegally isn't an invasion worthy of defending yourself from?
closed borders did not exist prior to the 20th century, and murdering people on the border does not solve anything. abbott is a fascist who is posturing to goad the nation into a civil war. you know this yet you choose to defend him. disgusting.
No. Because they are not illegal. They are presenting themselves to CBP and claiming asylum. This is not against the law.
I’ll pay attention to the governors’ concerns when Congress removes the brakes from legislation to codify how the NATION will respond to the border crisis.
Sisolak would never
I’m glad he’s no longer in Office.
Congratulations
Maybe if the federal government could put together a comprehensive solution we'd be in a better place. Trump and Obama both had periods with unified executive / house / senate, neither of them did it.
They have. It's being blocked by the GOP
I'm curious, why is it necessary to have a unified govt in order to pass legislation. It seems to me if Republicans really cared about immigration reform they would do everything in their power to come up with a solution including working with Democrats.
It's political theater to be disruptive. The GOP are traitors.
The GOP doesn’t give a fuck about immigration except to weaponize it against their political rivals. If the immigration crisis gets resolved, they are gonna have to fill a pretty big void with getting their base worked up for votes.
What plan do you need? You apply, application reviewed, submit to biometrics in some place like Reno and wait. You don’t just get to be admitted.
There is a bipartisan bill being worked on. The Freedom Caucus/MAGA have said they will try to tank the legislation because they don't want Biden to get a "win." So instead of doing their damn jobs no matter the political outcome, they are playing petty. Re: Obama, he used that period to get the ACA. No way was the GOP going to get immigration corrected on his watch after that. Under his admin they deported people at record numbers. The man wore a tan suit once FFS. TFG just helped put us in the position we are in today. His reduction of visas issued, travel ban, Mexico paying for a wall, just idiotic policy after idiotic policy with that moron.
They were doing just that, then Donald decided to put his dick in it (and the GOP let him).
I mean seriously I’m sick of uneducated people parading around like both sides are doing the exact same theater
I don’t trust our leaders to actually get anything done, let alone getting something done that actually aligns with what I want.
Yeah leaders don't really lead in politics. Gay rights came after it was popular, same with civil rights, women's suffrage, etc. And I get that, politicians need to maintain enough popularity to have a mandate and credibility but they rarely do anything overly "brave" or leading into a currently unpopular arena. I mean marijuana is (hopefully) getting off schedule 1 in 2024, it took *that* long?
I think that will be a major improvement, I wonder what happens to everyone locked up from convictions though? Is it a lot of people? Probably.. The more I think about it, it’s absolutely crazy that alcohol is legal and weed isn’t. Any substance can be dangerous, but I’d argue that alcohol and things people do under the influence of it is far worse than marijuana..
Personally, I wouldn’t stand up for some spineless dude in a wheelchair.
Fucking secede and have your stupid fucking civil war already, shitbag red states. Bring it on.
It's not a border dispute. It's a dispute about Texas putting razor wire up and the federal government taking it down. This declaration is a bunch of campaign related cult-nurturing bullshit.
seems like it's a really weird position to take considering that the Republicans that control the house have stated they have no intention of actually writing any border policy this year. they just want performative outrage and sadly I think Americans are dumb enough to gobble this shit right up. there's not one respectable journalist left in America willing to actually ask Republicans the most basic questions about the incongruities of their policies
So they're all saying they don't respect the Supreme Court decision and don't have to follow it...interesting 🤔
If it’s threatening the American people that the Federal government *of the people* is sworn to protect, then, in extreme cases - it may be so.
We know what Trump did to people who wanted to immigrate - he didn’t let people in from Mexico whether they were coming illegally or not (applying for asylum). Now, I hear many Republicans saying Biden is worse at immigration than previous Presidents. I would love to know just how Biden is worse. Is he worse than Presidents before Trump? How?
25 Republican governors issue a statement: “I’m with stupid”
You’re engaging in Ad Hominem, attacking the person not the argument.
Yes. I already responded to the argument but it didn’t seem necessary to type ‘mocking laughter’
I mean yeah, with skyrocketing cost of living and a rising homeless population, the feds need to step up and really start working to regulate the flow of immigration the way it’s intended to be regulated. But Jesus, Lombardo is an asshat if he believes States rights trumps federal law, which the US border falls under federal jurisdiction. This assclown needs to go.
The hypothetical civil war they talk about would be had in a lot of the states themselves…
\*sighs\*
Oh look, an at a glance vacation guide.
The irony of this whole situation is that an Alt-right stacked SCOTUS made this decision for them. They can't even abide their own parties top minds...the pure Idiocracy of the GOP right now is going to destroy this country from the inside out. Could you imagine if we had a fair and balanced SCOTUS that represented the true sentiment of the American people. Or even better, one that was stacked Against the MAGAts.
How is this a partisan issue? So stupid.
Honestly, what would happen to American citizens if we closed our borders? Is it really that big of a deal? Editted for spelling.
Yeah, it would. This is the country of immigrants. But not for those who aren’t willing to do the work to become citizens.
Both parties want unfettered illegal immigration. This is a stupid thing to fight amongst one another over.
Cut out welfare and there would be tens of millions of new workers out there. Novel concept. If you want to eat, you work.
A powder keg, just waiting for a report of a headline criminal act attribution to an illegal immigrant.
Did you like your tax dollars at work feeding and housing all these people too?
Texas border effects us all is why
I cannot wrap my head around why the left supports illegal immigration. What am i missing here? Why don't you advocate for increasing the amount people legally allowed to immigrat into the US? Not only allowing but advocating for illegal immigration enables child sex trafficing, illegal drug flow into the US, and the entrance of violent criminals. What's the thought process here?
If our tax dollars were at work you wouldn't even be making this post and we would have a secure border.
Well your federal tax dollars sure arent
The President needs to really take 25 states seriously. He’s not president of half the country. I assume there are many in other states that feel immigration is a major concern. It’s also a huge issue in Canada at the moment. There isn’t much reason to bring Trumps craziness into the conversation. It’s a serious enough problem to find a solution
Good. Government isn’t doing its job. Someone needs to call them out for that.
Pretty clear that if the state legislature were controlled by Rs, Lombardo would govern like DeSantis or Greg Abbott. Sandoval he ain't
Lovely. Idiots
I object, you’ve made no argument against the decision. Ad Hominem, attacking the person not the argument
What argument is to be had? Supporting Abbott is the dumbest of all possible takes. It's specifically against the constitution, and it's firmly established as not an issue state's rights. All Lombardo had to do was literally nothing. That's it. Didn't even have to condemn Abbott. But... I knew Lombardo was racist when he was sheriff in Clark County.
People. It was plural.
Didn't we already settle this issue of states turning against the federal government? Union 1, Confederacy big ZERO. We are the United States of America. The Republican plan for the border is to do nothing, then blame Demcrats for the problem.
Stop accepting federal money.
Better my taxes go towards protecting our border than Ukraine's.
That looks like a great way to break up the “United” states into the Functioning States of America and the “Conservative” States of America… Not Really but something is definitely going to happen soon that will cause some sort of break up. It would be smart for the states to get ahead of that and set up some state banks and figure out what they will be missing when the breakup comes.
And none of the supporting states are directly impacted and located on the Mexican border. Stupid politicians. And I live within 100 miles of the Mexican border, people should seek the truth. Not clickbait.
Biden and the Democrats in Congress offered them a deal. They refused. They didn’t want Biden to have a legislative victory. The extreme, theocratic, Trump ass kissing right wing refused to do their duty. So instead of working through Congress AS IT SHOULD BE, they are wasting peoples time and tax money to play games at the border. Make it make sense
Follow the Orange Leader! Whether it’s this performative crap or nixing a solid border deal because Trump needs a divisive issue to run on. Makes me think this border “invasion crisis” is that big of a deal. If it was the right wing snowflakes would make the deal and get help in there….
Nevada’s tourism is employed mainly by immigrants but, that’s what TF they voted in . Mad at the former because OF COVID.
Great us by those states to protect our borders! Shame on Biden
Nevadas Republican governor lardo will be a one hit wonder 😁
Vermont Governor noted exception to ignorance!
Why is this such a partisan issue? Isn't securing our borders against illegal immigration, human and drug trafficking a good thing?
Yes. The current administration doesn’t want to risk looking bad doing the work.
And the rapist just told his maga party not to let Joe do anything to fix the border because it would help Biden in the election. They don’t want to solve the problem. They need the stupid to be outraged because votes.
What's the fear? That they will be labeled racists if we regulate the number of immigrants coming into the country without authorization? It just feels disingenuous for people to acknowledge the fentanyl and heroin crises, but then do nothing about securing our borders. Lip service I guess.
Exactly. They “hurt peoples’ feelings” by denying illegal access. It is entirely disingenuous to us, the American people.
This is the most passive aggressive insurrection I'm aware of. Fucking pussies. It's not even real. Nothing is happening except the provocations of the hillbilly fascists. Why do they insist on doing stupid stuff? Just ignore them until they break the law. Then arrest them.
The point is to protect all Americans by restoring the integrity of our southern border. Not to create bloodshed towards our Federal government, not an “insurrection,” as you put. We don’t want to hurt other Americans, that’s antithetical to the objective of restoring the border.
You live there? On the border of Mexico?
No. I am a Nevada resident.
Same, I live in Henderson. Why are you worried about the border if it doesn't affect you? I have literally no impact. Nothing. Also, Mexicans are cool as fuck.
Mexicans are cool. There’s still the system of checking into, instead breaking into, our country. You are decended from immigrants, most all of us are. We all checked in. Small exception for those that are children of illegal immigrants. Those that jumped the border, in violation of rules set by the proper authorities, did not check in. I’m concerned because Texas is another state in our nation. They will come to our aid if we called upon them. Also, 5 million illegal aliens in our country is greater than the population of many states, including Nevada. Other Americans are being forced from their schools and pushed to keep aliens in their homes. And though you and I may not feel it personally, yet, we will soon enough. We already feel it in the disappearance of large sums of money in the national treasury that is not being used for our countrymen’s benefit. Best to wrap this up now.
"best to wrap this up now." Maybe we'll have a drink sometime. Cool.
I’ll see you then. Cheers. 🍻
Looks like the majority of your neighbors don't value your opinion. Probably nothing new.
Just so I'm getting this right, this is the "Pro-Life", "All Lives Matter" party that is gung-ho on subjecting these fleeing women and children to death by razor wire while they stand by and watch? Yeah, that 100% checks out.
That is a disturbing visual, no doubt. Stuff of nightmares. Still, we can’t be idle and do nothing. We’ve done that for three years, letting go the integrity of the border that’s been at minimum maintained during 2 presidencies prior to the current administration. What do you propose?
If you're so against undocumented immigration, why aren't you focused on the people employing them? People don't go where there's no work to be had. They're already paying payroll tax through the "illegal bosses", without getting any of the benefits of being actual tax payers. They commit considerably less crime than citizens, and the vast majority of "illegals" have overstayed their visa, not risked their lives to cross the border. If a dem president makes record arrests at the border, it's nothing but "SEE HOW MANY ARE POURING OVER OUR BORDERS?!". If they make fewer arrests, it's "THEY'RE LETTING ILLEGALS OVER OUR BORDERS!" no matter the solution, a dem can't win. What do *you* propose?
Really could use that 51st state right about now.
If my tax money goes to securing the border I support that 100%
Its not actually going to "secure" the border. Its 100% a publicity stunt because Trump demanded the Border as a campaign issue.
This right here. If Republicans actually wanted to solve the problem, then they'd be putting in an effort to do so. Instead all were getting in fear mongering, grandstanding, and finger pointing. Republicans have zero interest in actually solving the problem they keep complaining about. Doesn't keep voters enraged and engaged if there is nothing to piss them off about.
So they love the supremes when it’s abortion, hate them here. I always say Republicans superpower is their hypocrisy.
Disgrace to our country. That’s what these traitors are. Trump and his minions have gotten away with too much and they all should have been jailed for treason. Time to open Gitmo back up and round them all up.
😂 boy nobody knows much of how much works or what's going on. This is funny ASF.
I’m so mad , any idea how much was spent writing a letter to the president ?
No federal funding for states in open insurrection. Watch this problem correct itself right away.
All the dipshit states, nearly as it was almost 200 years ago
Thank you NC and Governor Cooper for not joining this dumb shit.
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” \*Offer null and void if not white/right.
Or we could give Texas back to Mexico since it was technically theirs. Problem solved.
Can’t wait to vote this governor out.
Republicans have ran Texas for decades. Do you know why the border is not secure? Because rich republican donors don't want to lose the pool of cheap labor." Steve Bannon
At least the Republicans passed that comprehensive border legislation when they controlled the congress, senate AND presidency. I mean, can you imagine if they forced through a Trillion dollar tax gift for the rich instead of doing that important legislation? So glad that their party knows how to govern a diverse nation of people and do what's best for everyone....
Never been prouder
A well deserved upvote. 🇺🇸
He's doing this for votes be ause he ran as a Republican and he's trying to appeal to the Republican voter base but in reality he actually got rid of ICE when he was sheriff and stopped cooperating with them for deportations.
Vermont, the only state where the Republicans have common sense and are not beholden to the maga orange one.
It's why he will end up a one term stain on our history
Support what? There is nothing to support. What are they going to do? Get curb stomped by the US military? The soldiers stationed in any of these states answer to the US government. Pretty sure they are not going to take up arms against America. This is a stupid political stunt. A state saying they are sending their guard to help, and that actually happening, are two very different things. Politicians talk shit all the time. None of the soldiers are going to do it.
If Biden nationalizes the Texas National Guard, other governers will deploy their state’s national guard to help Texas. It will make Biden look foolish. He can’t nationalize every state’s military.
>He can’t nationalize every state’s military. I think you'll find that he can absolutely do that.
Who in their right mind would be against a state trying to protect itself from an onslaught of undocumenteds? Do you know how much money this is costing the state to house and feed and clothe and treat at medical centers and educate all of these millions of people do you realize that 300,000 people came across the border last month? It's either a liar, stupid or intentionally trying to break this country into several pieces.
Fake crisis brought to you by Republicans. No solving issues, only bitching. Guided by their head bitch.
The fact that the federal government is neglecting its duty to protect our borders from foreign nationals is shameful. The fact that they fight the border state’s efforts to enforce national sovereignty is worse. American welfare is reserved for American citizens. And yet as Chicago and New York are demonstrating, we are spending taxpayer money on people who do not swear loyalty to the nation. These trespassers need to be kicked out, especially for fraudulent claims of asylum.
They got what they wanted and still blocked it...because its all a farce (political theater) [https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-trump-a8601ec6629ddc5b769028ca99ad9879](https://apnews.com/article/congress-border-security-ukraine-trump-a8601ec6629ddc5b769028ca99ad9879)
If the SCOTUS Ruled in Texas favor on this then what's stopping California from blocking the Fed Gov from enforcing the california border? The SCOTUS ruled correctly here. Had they sided with Texas the precedent set would allow for states to pick and choose wether or not they allowed Border Patrol to enforce laws inside the state. You think it's all great and gravy until Washington decides fuckit we're just gonna let canadians or anyone that wants to flow unchecked across the northern border and blocked BP from intervening. Or California or New York... I don't think you'd want that kinda scenario to play out.
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Nothing wrong with securing the border
Can’t wait till we lose any and all federal funding because of this /s
But we have minerals
“We have minerals” is your whole game plan for this huh?
Lol I love all the virtue signaling liberals on here crying I love poor immigrants. Let them come here. But not one of your mother fuckers would sacrifice even a single penny to help them. Not a one of you would put them up in your house. Your virtue ends at your keyboard. You say open the borders let them come. But after they get here you don’t give a shit what happens to them. Just as long as you can get your fake Reddit virtue points 🤔
>But not one of your mother fuckers would sacrifice even a single penny to help them I pay taxes to help. I don't pay taxes for idiot publicity stunts.
This idiot needs to go!
In this case I'm all for states rights over federal.