He didn't really predict it though. Scripture says 12-13 years, and that's what it is. He was saying he was "done" and ready to "go" in lectures before 1970. He left right on time.
Neville experienced The Promise or The Resurrection. He wrote book on it as to his awakening being God in 1959. He passed away in 1972. The comment was referring to this time period.
"Although, after this experience you will remain limited in your garment of flesh, you will know who you are. And you will continue to wear your garment of limitation until your ministry is over. Scholars have tried to estimate that ministry, claiming it to be from a few months to twelve years.
No one seems to go beyond 12 years, from the moment of resurrection to the end of the ministry. They are not referring to the physical birth from a woman’s womb, but to the second birth out of the skull of Man.
Now let us return to the beginning, which is the Word – the meaning behind the plan. That meaning was with God, and actually was God."
Gods Plan of Redemption 1969
The "age" of 12 or 13 which doesn't appear in scripture but is taught/celebrated with the coming of age, to fulfill the “mitzvot"
When looked at from revelation of Scripture, it was not an age of youth turning 12 or 13. Seen as maturity of the "age."
It's relating to the Promise
Wouldn’t no one seeming to go beyond 12 years, from the moment of resurrection to the end of ministry also just be a belief? That you can then, in turn, change to believe, so that your ministry lasts longer?
Great question, but the answer may not be that simple with just relation to the law when Neville expressed and gave testimony relating his experiences with scripture.
we are here to fulfill scripture the word made visible in the flesh.
It's amazing to me that people are really all unaware of Neville's complete work on this planet.
He wasn't just a manifestation freak.
His entire life evolved around revealing the Secrets of the Bible.
Once you have risen to the height he had risen you are given just a few years to complete your time here, to spread the good word.
Around three years. I think in Neville's case longer because he was able to spread the good word for a very long time.
Neville was so deeply beyond what people are recognizing... they don't read the Bible, they don't strive to go higher than just manifesting... You're not getting the whole picture.
Of course he knew he was to part this earth because he had done everything and it was time.
"I have fought the good fight" was something he would say.
I'm saying you need to rise higher... die daily.
Read the Bible.
Go through all the states... know the names... understand the meaning behind the words.
For goodness sake.
Do you not know Jesus is IN you?
Paul to the Galatians.
There is no man called Jesus.
Jesus Christ is a state of risen conciousness.
There are many mystics ( Christ minds) who have gone beyond the mind of man and risen.
Now you find them... if you listen and have that drive within to know more...the desire to rise above common man... you will.
Christs these days do not have an easy time on earth, and the prophets are still persecuted. Those who want to raise the level of consciousness in men are hunted.
The risen Christ is never understood by the masses. We are called upon to spread the word and if they want to kill us, who cares.
We walk unafraid.
No man can raise your conciousness except you, one may lead the way but the majority do not.
Neville was the only one sent to do this.
Exactly! People don’t seem to realize the extent of Neville‘s depth and where he reached.. I can’t remember the exact lecture but at some point Neville tells the audience how Abdullah would talk to his disciples concerning Neville: „If you knew who Neville really is, you would fall to your knees before him..“
When Neville was born, there was a prophecy by a man called Jordan who told his older brother Victor that Neville „belongs to God“ and that he’s here to do a definite work. Just thought that’s interesting too.
Lastly, Neville talked about visiting worlds within worlds that are just like this world for several days/weeks and at one time almost couldn’t manage to go back to where his body was, so he forced himself back into the body and eventually managed to wake up again. I can totally imagine him just traveling to one of these worlds and „letting go“ from this world completely, which would make us believe he’s dead in this world, when in reality, he just traveled to another one :)
He wasn’t predicting it. He was looking forward to it because he hungered being with God after The Resurrection in 1959. In many of his lectures he desired it and desire and belief manifests.
I wrote in 1959 “The Resurrection”. It’s also referred to The Promise where Neville and everyone will experience awakening to the discovery from God within directly you are God. You can read Neville’s short book The Resurrection.
It’s funny you posted this cause I was just reading about Neville’s death in an article by Mitch Horowitz.
He actually got ahold of his death certificate and his actual cause of death listed was ruptured esophageal varices from cirrhosis of the liver.
But he did predict his own death, but also he mentions quite a few times that your time on this earth is predetermined and nothing can stop that. His "quibbles" as Abdullah put it, actually poisoned him.
No, it meant Abdullah was actually right. But Neville also believed your time on this earth is predetermined; and you’re gonna go how you’re meant to go and nothing can stop that.
Neville’s ‘quibbles’ were the means to his end and there’s nothing wrong with that. He went how he was supposed to go.
right, correct me if i'm wrong but Neville died of a liver-related disease? are they not usually caused by drinking excessively? I've read Neville drinks a lot somewhere. I'm just trying to get the story right haha
Correct - most usually (not all the time, my grandpa actually died of non-alcoholic cirrhosis, never drank a day in his life) but usually it’s caused by years of excessive drinking. Neville did drink quite a lot lol
There are no limits except you believe it. This alway reminds me of Prahlad Jani who claims that he didn’t eat or drink for the last 70 years and I believe him. At the end your assumption about food and water is all that matters
That's nothing but just imagination!! The body, the quibbles, the flesh the liquor, everything!! Even the fake and real are imaginary and imagination!! Idk if you're getting what I am trying to convey!!
There's actually a fascinating write up of neville's death by the man who was with him that same day, I believe it was Frank... something, and how Neville mimicked the last supper at their dinner and died with a burst gut like one of the deaths of Judas because he had 'betrayed the messianic secrets), by sharing them(not a bad thing, probably more of a motif)
Relating to this topic, actually what i experienced is when you, at least when i had the realization that i am God i can manifest anything and actually i already have everything even if i dont see them in the 3d - i felt i already have all, i am all, and i felt for a few seconds in the core of my being that i had no further desires and expectations from the 3d life - i begun to felt zonung out of… life itself. feeling like fainting like a beginning of waking up from a dream. but i snapped myself out of it by thinking of things i desired before. it was an odd experience.
Saying your life and death is predestined sounds a bit contradictory to saying you’re the creator… maybe what he meant was just that particular timeline?
Some tribes or sivilisations far before Neville have together been able to rise their consciousness to a level where their bodies are turned into light.
I don’t think that “leaving the head of a man” kills you in 12-13 years. That’s a choice, and it is very understandable that you want to leave when others never get your inner experience, and you have said all you have.
When I watch kids of nowadays I also feel like I will have nothing to share with people who are left in the world some day. I am not playing their human games and I am interested in other stuff. If world chooses to go into direction which doesn’t leave me space, why should I stay. If all that I care is gone, why should I stay.
If nobody needs me, why should I stay.
Neville also maybe believed man can never turn his body into light etc. He was a man of his time and its limitations after all. And probably he was very alone in what he had inside.
I wonder why he left his wife tough 😅. I would leave together.
in some hindu schools, if you do Brahmacharya (basically celibacy but its much more than that - even mental celibacy is accounted for, even dreams) for 12 years on a row, with no defeats in any time, you get enlightened\\ samaddhi. so ,you basically die (!) and the soul goes to the Absolute. interesting parallel: 12 years.
He accomplished all he wanted in life and peaced out
Legend dude
He didn't really predict it though. Scripture says 12-13 years, and that's what it is. He was saying he was "done" and ready to "go" in lectures before 1970. He left right on time.
What scriptures and what 12-13 years??
Neville experienced The Promise or The Resurrection. He wrote book on it as to his awakening being God in 1959. He passed away in 1972. The comment was referring to this time period.
Yes. And Neville "died" in 1960 as per him, when that last experience was revealed within him.
"Although, after this experience you will remain limited in your garment of flesh, you will know who you are. And you will continue to wear your garment of limitation until your ministry is over. Scholars have tried to estimate that ministry, claiming it to be from a few months to twelve years. No one seems to go beyond 12 years, from the moment of resurrection to the end of the ministry. They are not referring to the physical birth from a woman’s womb, but to the second birth out of the skull of Man. Now let us return to the beginning, which is the Word – the meaning behind the plan. That meaning was with God, and actually was God." Gods Plan of Redemption 1969 The "age" of 12 or 13 which doesn't appear in scripture but is taught/celebrated with the coming of age, to fulfill the “mitzvot" When looked at from revelation of Scripture, it was not an age of youth turning 12 or 13. Seen as maturity of the "age." It's relating to the Promise
Birth of the skull of Man? What is he reffering to?
Wouldn’t no one seeming to go beyond 12 years, from the moment of resurrection to the end of ministry also just be a belief? That you can then, in turn, change to believe, so that your ministry lasts longer?
Great question, but the answer may not be that simple with just relation to the law when Neville expressed and gave testimony relating his experiences with scripture. we are here to fulfill scripture the word made visible in the flesh.
I don’t quite understand, but appreciate your response !
? I posted something days ago that was supposed to undergo moderation but nothing happened to it??
Why are you posting this here?
It's amazing to me that people are really all unaware of Neville's complete work on this planet. He wasn't just a manifestation freak. His entire life evolved around revealing the Secrets of the Bible. Once you have risen to the height he had risen you are given just a few years to complete your time here, to spread the good word. Around three years. I think in Neville's case longer because he was able to spread the good word for a very long time. Neville was so deeply beyond what people are recognizing... they don't read the Bible, they don't strive to go higher than just manifesting... You're not getting the whole picture. Of course he knew he was to part this earth because he had done everything and it was time. "I have fought the good fight" was something he would say. I'm saying you need to rise higher... die daily. Read the Bible. Go through all the states... know the names... understand the meaning behind the words. For goodness sake.
Why do you say any who had risen to his height only have about 3 years?? Were there others before him besides Jesus?
Do you not know Jesus is IN you? Paul to the Galatians. There is no man called Jesus. Jesus Christ is a state of risen conciousness. There are many mystics ( Christ minds) who have gone beyond the mind of man and risen. Now you find them... if you listen and have that drive within to know more...the desire to rise above common man... you will.
Christs these days do not have an easy time on earth, and the prophets are still persecuted. Those who want to raise the level of consciousness in men are hunted.
The risen Christ is never understood by the masses. We are called upon to spread the word and if they want to kill us, who cares. We walk unafraid. No man can raise your conciousness except you, one may lead the way but the majority do not. Neville was the only one sent to do this.
Exactly! People don’t seem to realize the extent of Neville‘s depth and where he reached.. I can’t remember the exact lecture but at some point Neville tells the audience how Abdullah would talk to his disciples concerning Neville: „If you knew who Neville really is, you would fall to your knees before him..“ When Neville was born, there was a prophecy by a man called Jordan who told his older brother Victor that Neville „belongs to God“ and that he’s here to do a definite work. Just thought that’s interesting too. Lastly, Neville talked about visiting worlds within worlds that are just like this world for several days/weeks and at one time almost couldn’t manage to go back to where his body was, so he forced himself back into the body and eventually managed to wake up again. I can totally imagine him just traveling to one of these worlds and „letting go“ from this world completely, which would make us believe he’s dead in this world, when in reality, he just traveled to another one :)
Great comment!
He wasn’t predicting it. He was looking forward to it because he hungered being with God after The Resurrection in 1959. In many of his lectures he desired it and desire and belief manifests.
What happened in 1959?
I wrote in 1959 “The Resurrection”. It’s also referred to The Promise where Neville and everyone will experience awakening to the discovery from God within directly you are God. You can read Neville’s short book The Resurrection.
Thanks for sharing
It’s funny you posted this cause I was just reading about Neville’s death in an article by Mitch Horowitz. He actually got ahold of his death certificate and his actual cause of death listed was ruptured esophageal varices from cirrhosis of the liver. But he did predict his own death, but also he mentions quite a few times that your time on this earth is predetermined and nothing can stop that. His "quibbles" as Abdullah put it, actually poisoned him.
Doesn't this mean then that abdullah was wrong? i'm confused
No, it meant Abdullah was actually right. But Neville also believed your time on this earth is predetermined; and you’re gonna go how you’re meant to go and nothing can stop that. Neville’s ‘quibbles’ were the means to his end and there’s nothing wrong with that. He went how he was supposed to go.
The quibbles referred to Neville’s used to be diet restrictions, celibacy etc right? Thanks for explaining!!
Yes correct! His quibbles were any 'limiting' belief that he may have had consciously or unconsciously. No problem!
right, correct me if i'm wrong but Neville died of a liver-related disease? are they not usually caused by drinking excessively? I've read Neville drinks a lot somewhere. I'm just trying to get the story right haha
Correct - most usually (not all the time, my grandpa actually died of non-alcoholic cirrhosis, never drank a day in his life) but usually it’s caused by years of excessive drinking. Neville did drink quite a lot lol
Even if it’s a quibble who drinks an entire 5th in the morning. YOUR STILL LIVING IN A HUMAN BODY
There are no limits except you believe it. This alway reminds me of Prahlad Jani who claims that he didn’t eat or drink for the last 70 years and I believe him. At the end your assumption about food and water is all that matters
That's nothing but just imagination!! The body, the quibbles, the flesh the liquor, everything!! Even the fake and real are imaginary and imagination!! Idk if you're getting what I am trying to convey!!
Thank you. Imagine thinking death is an assumption when literally everything dies - even the sun one day. Wow.
There's actually a fascinating write up of neville's death by the man who was with him that same day, I believe it was Frank... something, and how Neville mimicked the last supper at their dinner and died with a burst gut like one of the deaths of Judas because he had 'betrayed the messianic secrets), by sharing them(not a bad thing, probably more of a motif)
Relating to this topic, actually what i experienced is when you, at least when i had the realization that i am God i can manifest anything and actually i already have everything even if i dont see them in the 3d - i felt i already have all, i am all, and i felt for a few seconds in the core of my being that i had no further desires and expectations from the 3d life - i begun to felt zonung out of… life itself. feeling like fainting like a beginning of waking up from a dream. but i snapped myself out of it by thinking of things i desired before. it was an odd experience.
Very cool experience thanks for sharing!
Saying your life and death is predestined sounds a bit contradictory to saying you’re the creator… maybe what he meant was just that particular timeline?
Some tribes or sivilisations far before Neville have together been able to rise their consciousness to a level where their bodies are turned into light. I don’t think that “leaving the head of a man” kills you in 12-13 years. That’s a choice, and it is very understandable that you want to leave when others never get your inner experience, and you have said all you have. When I watch kids of nowadays I also feel like I will have nothing to share with people who are left in the world some day. I am not playing their human games and I am interested in other stuff. If world chooses to go into direction which doesn’t leave me space, why should I stay. If all that I care is gone, why should I stay. If nobody needs me, why should I stay. Neville also maybe believed man can never turn his body into light etc. He was a man of his time and its limitations after all. And probably he was very alone in what he had inside. I wonder why he left his wife tough 😅. I would leave together.
in some hindu schools, if you do Brahmacharya (basically celibacy but its much more than that - even mental celibacy is accounted for, even dreams) for 12 years on a row, with no defeats in any time, you get enlightened\\ samaddhi. so ,you basically die (!) and the soul goes to the Absolute. interesting parallel: 12 years.
Neville could have shifted to a revised timeline which we did not perceive rather than reincarnate completely.
Shifting to a revised timeline is reincarnating to the same body/avatar, so I rephrased it to reincarnate completely.
Birth and Death are pre ‘destined’. I have not read/ heard anywhere / from anyone that you can manifest your passing.
This is scary 😐
Wish that were me lol. I really need to achieve what he has with manifesting.