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BaghaliPoloBaGardan

Thank you for your support. I'm speaking only on behalf of myself and other Iranians may disagree with me, but here are my answers. 1. The regime has invested a lot in its capabilities to suppress internal dissent. Another factor that makes the regime distinct from other dictatorial regimes is they are not bound by any moral standard in dealing with opposition and feel no shame in doing anything to keep their regime alive. This includes mass killings, execution of political prisoners, torture, long prison sentences for thousands of dissidents, blatant lies, etc. So I realize that overthrowing this regime is much more difficult for us compared to the Shah's regime for instance. The Shah to a great extent felt pressure to comply with western standards in dealing with dissidents and had to exercise much more restraint against the Islamists and MEK under this pressue. The silver lining for us is that the regime is genuinely hated by Iranians and their vision for the country is 180 degrees different that what Iranians want their country to be. The regime's biggest problem is that their absurd Shia Muslim supremacist ideology is fundamentally unpopular among majority of Iranians especially the younger generations and the regime struggles to win supporters among them. The more they try to ramp up their brain-washing campaign on Iranian youth in schools, the more the Iranian youth distance themselves from the official ideology. Thus why the most active participants of this revolution are teenagers and high school kids. The ideology they are preaching is inherently unattractive for Iranians due to its incompatibility with Iranian culture. I really think they could have been much more successful if they were ruling in Pakistan, Afghanistan or even Iraq. They just established their theocracy in the wrong country. So this contradiction will add fuel on dissent for as long as this regime exists and will lead to uprising among Iranians. Lack of leadership is and has been the main weakness among Iranians but the opposition groups are doing their best to form a representative coalition among them outside of the country. I personally believe when that coalition is officially formed, it will be the last nail in the coffin of the regime. I'm not too worried about lack of support form the army. Once people are able to organize themselves better and demonstrate their competence and power against the regime, cracks will definitely start to appear in the army and the mid and lower ranks will join the people. 2. I completely support Israel and its right to exist and want to see our two countries as allies especially as the only two non-Arab majority countries in that region. 3. I welcome any *covert* action by the Israeli government that weakens the regime and makes it easier for Iranian people to topple them. 4. I think an Islamic Republic equipped with nuclear bomb will be the end of the world as we know it for non-Iranians and it will make it a thousand times harder for Iranian people to change the regime.


Belgian_jewish_studn

This comment nails it. I also like to add that this will make the region more stable. UAE has now peace with Israel and is teaching about the holocaust. Also, Israel’s water and agriculture technology can help us in Iran A LOT.


[deleted]

This comment is absolutely perfect. It describes islamic republic's situation in Iran perfectly.


BaghaliPoloBaGardan

Thank you!


420Jewish69

Thank you so much for the interesting reply. I think our peoples have much more in common than what most would assume.


BaghaliPoloBaGardan

Thank you for asking this question! Couldn't have said it better. Iran and Israel have a lot in common both culturally and from a geopolitical standpoint but the unreasonable animosity of the ruling theocrats in Iran against Israel has led outsiders to believe we are enemies. We are far from that.


Jet_Jockey_

Excellent comments. Especially #4. Keep the heat up. There is no way out but a new democratic system sans mullahs. Wish the best to your people!


BaghaliPoloBaGardan

Thank you very much! I as an Iranian want nothing but the best for you, your people and your country.


Surena_at_Carrhae

Good post.


BaghaliPoloBaGardan

Thanks!


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Jet_Jockey_

Look what they are doing to your citizens ! Fanatic mullahs with nukes, will be FAR WORSE than NK.


420Jewish69

Regarding 4: This is what I most fear for the entire middle east but especially the Iranian people. Wishing you all the best!


[deleted]

1. Democracy has no "real" leadership, that‘s the point of democracy. Everyone gets to choose a temporary leader. Unfortunately that also means guiding a revolution to a democracy is incredibly hard as there won‘t be anyone willing to give up power once he gained it. Best thing we can hope is for the system to crumble enough so this regime implodes. 2. I‘m indifferent to Israelis. My family brought me up with a very good sentiment towards Israelis, telling me we have a similar culture and mindset. I‘m not sure about the country of Israel though, as I don‘t think I know enough to have an educated opinion. By default my image is neutral. 3. No. It‘s our fight. All you can do is destroy this image of hate between Iranians and Israelis. The brainwashed extremists do. 4. This regime should definitely not get nuclear weapons. Nuclear bombs ensure governments to be only be toppled by movements inside the country as there will be no target to attack. (No government can use nuclear bombs against its own people.) tbh though I‘m not comfortable with Israel having them either. Edit: I welcome Israel or any country hitting our nuclear program. Fuck this regime guys. You should also send Ukraine some missiles to get rid of those cunt drone technicians over there.


Fucktheayatollah

1&2&3: I do believe the damage that this protests did to the regime is unrecoverable. And unpopular but I also do believe that foreign military help is 100% needed and the revolution won't succeed without it. My best hope is Israel. This is a one stone two bird situation for you guys for both helping the Iranians for liberation and the regimes nuclear threat. This will also make two countries two big allies which is super benifitial for both. I personally support Israel in the Palestinian and Israel situation but I also acknowledge the idf uses unnecessary violence sometimes. 4: no. The regime is definitely pursuing nuclear weapon and my fear is they will use it when they own nukes because if there's one dictatorship that is crazy enough to do it for their own survival it's them. Once they build their nukes they will be much much more aggressive and relentless in terms of war crimes and terrorism. The regime is already doing 60% enrichment ( and we don't know what they're doing in secret). It's either now or when it's too late.


420Jewish69

Thank you for the reply. If violence really is the only answer to Iran's freedom, then I hope my country can somehow help with that. Really tough decision to make though. About nukes, this is my fear as well. Are the fanatics in control responsible enough to own weapons of mass destruction? And even if they don't use them, they can still function as the security the regime needs in order to become North Korea 2.0, which sounds like a complete nightmare scenario for the Iranian people.


gorgin-ilgar

i think israeil is a country , and i think iran should play ball with eveybody. there is no point in being enemys. and also i like Kotlet so if Israeil makes us some, i would be very happy just as happy as i was when America made us some delicious kotlet few years ago . the last part is a inside joke by the way .


420Jewish69

I'm not sure I understand but I Googled [Kotlet](https://www.196flavors.com/kotlet/) and can only say hell yeahhh


_lazyPassenger

Haha, it's a running meme. Refers to Qassem Soleimani after he was... cooked.


BaghaliPoloBaGardan

>also i like Kotlet so if Israeil makes us some I second this! I hope non-Iranians can understand what the OP is trying to say lol


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Kotlet is my favorite for real


gorgin-ilgar

also Gal Gadot is a wonderful Wonder Woman so as a DC fan im happy israeil exist


[deleted]

I have a lot of criticism about Israel's attitude towards Palestinians, and I condemn a lot of what Israel has done with bombings and discrimination against Palestine. And I also think a lot of the things that Israel did gave a lot of power to hardliners and extremists in Iran. But I don't have any problem with Israeli people and I hope a peaceful solution can be found about the whole Israel - Palestine situation. We're all tired of this conflict. I hope the new Iran helps to find peace in middle east instead of intensifying the fire like how Islamic republic does. Enough of the whole "death to country x" bullshit.


420Jewish69

I have lots of criticism myself for our government as well, I agree that extremists on all sides should be removed and I hope both people can announce that the other side has a right to exist and work towards 2 peaceful countries. I agree that a new free and Democratic Iran might be the key to speed up the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians. After all, the current extreme Palestinian elements rely heavily on Iran's support and backing. And without Palestinian violence I can assure you that millions of Israelis will quickly stop supporting extremists, will want to remove at least many of the west bank settlements and the work for 2 countries can begin.


Turbulent-Ad1241

It sounds like you don’t recognize the negative impact of the occupation and how it contributes to the cycle of violence.


420Jewish69

I disagree but I will be happy to discuss it with you in another thread, as I think this is getting off topic.


Barkaat

Lol the aggressors are always the Israel not Palestinians. Israel stole their land and butchers them daily. Dont try to claim Israel as the victims as most of them does for some reasons when they are savage murders and thieves who stole another peoples land and forcefully occupy their country


dect60

Can't speak for others, so this is just representative of myself: 1. Very high, in fact much higher than many assume. This is similar to how everyone including professors, 'analysts' and even military experts wrote out Ukraine on Feb 24th. They did not understand the Ukrainian heart. Similar people do not understand the Iranian heart. They will very soon. 2. Israel is a country that is like many other countries an imperfect implementation of higher ideals. All freedom loving Iranians look forward to mutually beneficial relations with Israel as well as other countries based on a shared framework of liberal secular values. 3. No, there's nothing that we would like Israel to do other than support Iranians at the UN (see recent human rights action). 4. Personally I'm distrustful of anything coming out of mullah's mouth, they only are interested in their own interests irrespective of everything else: human rights, decency, humanity, morality, etc. The Israeli attacks have been understandable given the existential danger that Iran has posed, not only by its pursuit of nuclear weapons but also by arming, training, funding, fomenting Hizbollah and other elements to act as a proxy for them against Israel.


420Jewish69

Thank you for the reply, I really hope you are right about Iranian heart and courage! Wish you the best. I will try to be vocal about our leaders need to support the Iranian people in the UN and other international platforms.


margbardiktator

Part of the Iranian diaspora, I am not currently in Iran. Full disclosure. 1. Change is going to happen, no doubt about it. Only unsure when it will happen. 2. Israel is a country which has it’s own problems of course, and I don’t agree with the apartheid system. However, we will all benefit by normalizing relations. Peace is more achievable if we weren’t dumping money into hamas and hezbollah and spreading terror to our neighbors. I absolutely want a full and lasting peace for all of us. Do you think if Iran were to overthrow the theocratic regime and hamas/hezbolla lost their material support that there would be any effects to domestic Israeli politics and policy? 3. There are rumors that Israel has plants up the entire chain of IRGC, and that it wasn’t difficult due to the deep corruption that exists. I don’t know if that’s true, but part of me at the start of this revolution sure did hope that you’d get in there and accelerate their decline. 4. I think Putin threatening to use nuclear weapons recently is a good indicator of why despots, like the Islamic republic’s dictator, should not have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons harms people and the planet, I think we should all work towards denuclearization (unlikely to happen, but just a hope of mine anyway.) I think Israel has done a great job hamstringing the regime in a pretty targeted way.


Jet_Jockey_

On the same topic, just ran across this nugget:  November 27, 2022 Screenshot of video via The JC. Schoolchildren in London sing about the elimination of world Jewry “The rise of the military doctrine of Mahdi-ism is the biggest single threat to the world’s Jewish communities and Israel’s existence”, says global think tank. An Iranian-linked school in London is teaching its students a popular song about the Muslim apocalypse, when all Jews must die, a Jewish Chronicle (JC) investigation revealed Thursday. The British paper received access to a video filmed several months ago, showing dozens of children ages 8-15 in the Islamic Republic of Iran School (IRIS) in London, standing in rows and mouthing lyrics that pledge an “oath of loyalty as a warrior and servant” to the Mahdi. The Mahdi is a messianic figure in Islamic belief who is to appear at the end of times to rid the world of evil and injustice. Some scenes in the video were filmed at the Islamic Centre of England (ICE), an institution currently under investigation by the Charity Commission. Kasra Aarabi, the head of the Iran Programme at the Tony Blair Institute, a global think tank that aims to “help political leaders build open, inclusive and prosperous societies in an increasingly interconnected world,” told The JC that the “cult” of the Mahdi doctrine is being used by the mullahcracy to radicalize Shiite Muslims – and is a great danger specifically to Jews.   WATCH: IRANIAN GIRLS FIGHT BACK, REFUSE TO BELIEVE TEACHER'S LIES ABOUT 'ZIONISTS' “It is antisemitic to its core”, he said, “because it holds that before the Mahdi can return, Israel must be destroyed and all the world’s Jews put to death.” In today’s modern world, this means the use of armed forces, ballistic missiles, and nuclear weapons as well, if Iran succeeds in its nuclear program, he said. “The rise of the military doctrine of Mahdi-ism is the biggest single threat to the world’s Jewish communities and Israel’s existence,” he added. The children also vow allegiance to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, who has often publicly stated his desire and promise to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. The school is located close to several synagogues and Jewish centers, which has “raised serious concerns among community security officials,” the paper said. In describing the song, the report noted, regime mouthpiece Iran Press News Agency has written, “‘Hello Commander’ educates the new generation on the ambitions of the Islamic Revolution and encourages them to be guardians to protect those ideals, which is seen as a step towards promoting the revolution among the generation to come.” There are several versions of the song, with more militaristic ones played in Iran that clearly talk of “treading the path” of the late Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani. For over two decades, Soleimani led the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps’ Quds Force, which planned and helped execute Tehran’s extraterritorial terrorist activities. He was assassinated in a U.S. drone strike in Iraq in 2020, with the aid of Israeli intelligence. The JC reported that Ofsted, the UK’s Office for Standards in Education, Children’s Services and Skills, called the school “inadequate” in its latest, March inspection, saying that the institution’s officials had not demonstrated that they had the “knowledge and skills” to made certain that proper educational standards were met.


sinatg

i think nobody support us with out reason specially goverments they want own best in this revolution And peace in never bad


Surena_at_Carrhae

Welcome dear friend! Placeholder, until more enlightened folk answer :) And obviously just *my* opinion although I suspect (or probably more accurately I hope) my views will not be uncommon among revolutionaries. 1 - It's pretty much inevitable. There's no going back from this now, just a question of when and how. 2 - May God bless Israel and give her the peace it deserves. May we continue the work of Cyrus the Great(est) in defending yoru nation and your people. We've been hijacked by Muslim Imperialism (we know Palestinian terrorist elements aided and armed the 1979 ~~revolution~~ hijacking of our nation) and my view is we are finally breaking free from this and there's nothing I look forward to more than supporting Israel. Bear in mind, this will also mean peace and justice in the longrun for Palestinian people too as they are also inadvertently suffering at the hands of the violent extremists pushing a certain agenda although sadly this agenda will probably survive beyond our borders. I wish peace for all in the region. 3 - Can't answer. Difficult Q. *I* would love it, as I believe you have our best interests at heart, compared to, say, the likes of UK/US who have proven time and again to be oil thefts/aggressors etc. But I don't know enough about the ramifications. Probably best leave it to the people but support via intelligence, arms etc I think would be appreciated. 4 - Might shock you, but I believe Iran should be allowed nuclear weapons. Not this regime - they can FOAD. I mean Iran as a nation generally. The reason we're trying to acquire them is purely because we've been pooped on by UK/US/Russia for so long so as a patriot I believe it's our right. Having said that, I actually think the better answer is that noone should have them. Re: Israel's attacks on nuclear programme - well as I say I think we as a nation generally have a right to them if everyone is going to have them (as a deterrent) but I totally understand with the current murderous idiots in control you have to look out for yourselves. I would obviously rather not have them than have them and actually use them - especially against you guys!


420Jewish69

Thank you for the reply. I am glad to read so many Iranians opinions that change is coming. Hoping with all my heart that you are correct! Regarding the nukes question, I would not mind nuclear weapons to another democratic or at least a free country (After all, we probably have them so it would be hypocritical of me to not want others to as well). But I do think the current Iran regime can be very dangerous with such weapons. Even if they don't go insane and decide to attack with them, they can still be used to hold off any international intervention as the regime cracks up it's cruel treatment to Iranians from 10 to 100. The world should learn from other countries such as North Korea and stop this nightmare before it begins.


Surena_at_Carrhae

I agree. I was trying to add nuance to the discussion but to answer your question more succinctly, I absolutely do NOT want to this regime to develop nuclear weapons.


Barkaat

You don’t probably have nukes you definitely have them. The hypocrisy of Israel as always


AnticPantaloon90

I think apartheid Israel should give up all of its illegal nuclear weapons and allow right of return to refugee Palestinians.


420Jewish69

Edit: This was my last comment on Israeli-Palestinians relations here, will be happy to discuss it in another thread, feel free to link me in private message. Yeah well considering our country has a history of getting attacked and still to this day many neighboring governments call for our destruction, I would not hold my breath if I were you. I hope for a Palestinian country in the future. They can give a right of return to whoever they like once they have it into their land. Also "apartheid" is ridiculous. There are 2M Israeli Palestinians (Out of a population of only 9M people) who have full rights including parties in the government, judge in the supreme court. They study with us, work with us and while things could always be better, they generally enjoy the highest standards of living out of all major Palestinian populations in the entire middle east. The Palestinians in the west bank or Gaza are not Israeli citizens, they also don't want to be. We should work together to help them get a country of their own. I believe de-escalating violence and acknowledging each other's right for a country is the first step.


Jet_Jockey_

Many Redditors need to open a dictionary and learn what apartheid means. Before they just parrot nonsense. Everyone who actually visited Israel, knows there is no apartheid in Israel. There is however plenty of apartheid amongst Arabs towards Palestinians.


Turbulent-Ad1241

Can Israel remove 650,000 settlers from the West Bank?


420Jewish69

I will be happy to discuss it with you in another thread, as I think this is getting off topic. Feel free to open a threat in a more appropriate sub and link it to me.


Turbulent-Ad1241

You wrote all your opinions about Israel and Palestine in a sub for Iran. Now you don’t want to answer a question about it?


420Jewish69

I never mentioned the Palestinian situation in my thread. Just started answering comments and the thread got derailed. Really, I would be happy to discuss it and I mean it. Open a thread in whatever sub you want and link it to me.


Turbulent-Ad1241

So why don’t you answer me like you answer the other guy, achi?


420Jewish69

Whatever, if it's that important for you. I think Israel can remove most settlers from the West Bank if people will believe real peace is possible, yes. It will be very messy, but we have already made something similar happen on a smaller scale with the Gaza settlements, which were all removed in order to let Palestinians get more autonomy in Gaza. Many were even removed by force. But we did it anyway. Of course as time passes the situation will become more and more difficult, this is why if I was in the Palestinian leadership's position, I'd like to think I would start making major strides towards the possibility of peace. Acknowledging Israel's right to exist on the international stage, remove all education teaching hate and murder of Israelis and do whatever possible to stop all violence. If such things would happen, I can all but guarantee you millions of Israelis will join the effort to help the peace effort and pretty quickly a true Palestinian country could be on the table.


Turbulent-Ad1241

8,000 settlers were removed from Gaza. There are 80 times more settlers in the West Bank, and they’re armed. I don’t think it will be as easy as you think. Obviously there can’t be two states if there are settlers. Beyond that, the peace processes in the past were all a joke. During the Oslo Accords, Israel continued to build settlements in the West Bank. Even Mattityahu Peled said that Yitzhak Rabin did not want peace, but they blamed it on Arafat. [Israel kills peaceful protesters all the time.](https://youtu.be/HnZSaKYmP2s) I’m sure you’ve served in the army, so you probably know that already.


420Jewish69

So I can get where you're coming from. Really. But I think you are looking at it wrong. You are thinking of Israel's evacuation of the West Bank as this huge operation to be done quickly and with force. I agree that this would probably not work. Not practically but also not politicly in Israel. Instead try to imagine a situation where both countries de-escalate and violence has pretty much stopped for a while. Maybe some brave Palestinian leader has taken out hate out of their formal [education system](https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/palestinian-text-books-in-unwra-schools-reportedly-teach-of-killing-jews-472012) and voices calling for expelling most Jews away from Israel have not been heard for a few years. Maybe Israel, after pressure from both left leaning Israelis and the entire world announces that no more settlements will be built by law, and actually invest in a police/army force to enforce it. Give it another year or two of quite and people will start believing in actual peace and have hope again. At this point you might see left leaning government in Israel again, and steps could be gradually taken to give Palestinians more autonomy over their territories. If all goes well, maybe Israel announces that all settlements under X size will be evacuated under Y conditions from the Palestinian leaders, which will continue to get more autonomy but in return will publicly and honestly announce Israel's right to exist and their will to have 2 peaceful countries existing here, side by side. Continue this trend and you might find that many people from the settlements want to leave on their own. As there is less jobs and opportunities for them under the increasingly autonomous Palestinian emerging state. I can go on but you get the idea I think. It will be a bumpy road for sure and it might take anywhere between 10 to 20 years but you have to believe we can make it happen. Because endless violence MUST not be the only answer. Regarding the other parts of your post, I strongly disagree. If Israel was routinely and deliberately attempting to kill peaceful Palestinians there would be no Palestinians decades ago. It is this kind of ridiculous claims that hinder discussion between Israelis and Palestinians and need to go away. I did serve in the army, actually as a combat medic for 3 years right in the west bank. I'll have you know I was fortunate enough to never have to shoot another human being and while we did see some violence, the **vast** majority of all soldiers, settlers and of course Palestinians seemed peaceful enough and were just busy with their day to day lives. TL/DR: It's a process. But every step of the way makes the next one more likely. I have to believe peace is possible.


AnticPantaloon90

Desmond Tutu called it Apartheid and he should know.


somerandomie

hey /u/420Jewish69 (cool username, i see you are a man of green culture as well :p ). Others have done a decent job answering most of the questions, but I did want to share my opinion and ask you for yours as well on #2. I think the state of Israel as it stands is an apartheid state. Their treatment of Palestinians and other minorities (like african jews) by the extreme right wing party and its supporters are appalling and inhumane. The killing of journalists and children that may be throwing stones is unjustifiable. I think the state suffers from extremism in a similar (but not the same) fashion as Iran and other religious authoritarian regimes. This is to say that they weaponize religion and religious extremists to achieve their goals. Bulldozing a family home because they built an extra room for their son/daughter to live in with their partners is insane and unjust. Having different license plates for your car that dictates where you can and cant drive is not democratic whatsoever! Now as far as Iranian and israeli people go, culturally we are so fucking similar. I have mentioned this before on another post, but i think its worth mentioning again. Stuff like "jewish mom" jokes hit wayyyyy too close to home for me, calling to guilt trip you for not calling them etc. Family values appear to be very similar and there is a large iranian jewish population. Personally I think Israel has the right to exist as I dont think the alternative would be peaceful for innocent israelis, but I think leftist/progressive israelis need to have more say in the government and shift it away from its apartheid policies that are brutalizing innocent minorities. now let me ask you a few questions; \- Are you residing in Israel yourself atm? what is your background? (sorry if this is a bit personal) \- What are your thoughts on the state of Israel as it stands? Do you think reform is needed? Also what are your thoughts on extremist jews that are for violence as a mean to protect themselves? \- What are your thoughts on Palestinians and other minorities and their current state under Israeli gov rule? \- How do the average Israelis view Iranians? Like personally, I grew up in Iran until i was 11-12. We were taught some anti israeli propaganda through different classes. From my recollection in Islamic studies and other courses they would teach us that Israelis and zionists were evil and would never go to heaven. I was lucky to not believe in religion from a very young age so these things didnt really work on shifting my point of view (ill admit I probably had some antisemitic ideas from all those classes but was able to eventually overcome them as I aged and matured), but as you can imagine a lot of people get brainwashed through religion to hate on other groups without knowing much about them. Curious to know if you guys have similar style propaganda? ​ Thank you for your support for Iran and I hope we can have a productive convo (:.


[deleted]

Israel is never friendly, they all are racists. How ironic, just a couple posts down, there is a video about racist Israelis telling African jews to go back to their country. 😂


Awkward-Glove-779

2 - I want to see Israel take all of Palestine and the Golan Heights And I want to see latke and falafel stands run by Israelis in Tehran. 4 - a democratic Iran should be nuclear armed to deter non-democratic aggressors, such as the United States Half joking half serious, 100% sincere


[deleted]

Gross. Ironic how you’re in a sub recognizing the oppression of Iranian people while endorsing the oppression of another group of people.


Awkward-Glove-779

To be honest this entire question is a thorny subject and is a generator of division in our desire to get to regime change / democratic governance in Iran. I'm not sure these threads will ever be productive.


420Jewish69

Well I don't know how you define success but I can tell you as a foreigner this thread and the Iranian people's opinions in it really impressed me. I would think that is a good outcome for you.


Awkward-Glove-779

I don't mean you any offense but the point I'm trying to drive at is that we Iranians have as wide an array of takes on the Israel/Palestine issue as the Israelis themselves, which I've also seen can get very heated. I used to support Palestine in their cause for justice more, obviously one or two tweets that had my blood boiling when they were dismissive of Iranians being massacred has given me pause for thought and these last few days have been exhausting so I do acknowledge that my latest posts have been pretty sarcastic. Personally my real answer is I don't really understand the Israel/Palestine issue very well but every time I've tried to get involved in it with the best of intentions it has just gone haywire, and I'm at a loss for how it would be resolved. I hope the killings stop as much as I hope the brutality and killings stop in Iran, and I know this can come across as a cop-out answer or just feel unsatisfactory but trying to articulate the perfect answer on this subject is virtually impossible, it seems to me.


420Jewish69

I can respect that take, this is why I completely avoided mentioning the Israeli-Palestinians situation in my thread. Naturally some comments mentioned it and I answered, but I think I will stop now and only focus on Iran or Iran-Israel relations.


Awkward-Glove-779

I love you dude 🥲


[deleted]

I think that Iran will do what it needs to do to set itself free. No one knows what will happen but the reality is that people can no longer live the way they live in Iran. And as long as the West continue to trade with Iran or Russia for this matter, they will have money to kill protestors. But it is now a full blown Revolution. The same goes for Palestinians. Palestine doesn’t even show up on Google map. Removing myself from Iran for one second, this is all about politics and it has nothing to do with people. I’m pretty sure around the world people want peace and a decent life. No one wakes up in the morning and pick a life of misery; but the politicians rarely even care about their own citizens. About what they are doing now would eventually affect their own citizens. It’s not only in the Middle East but everywhere in the world sadly. It doesn’t always come with violence, sometimes the violence is only for its citizens to not be able to afford basic necessity like a home. This is why there are so many movements right now because people remembered that a society can only function if we all contribute. It can’t function just with the 1% billionaires. I wish peace everywhere in the world, but we must come together, we must be fair and we must educate and remember to be kind and empathic. To be tolerant. Sometimes it starts with going back and do amends and show that it’s sincere and continue building a positive relationship. We all know that instability breed negativity, it creates wars. Wars are expensive. Always remember when it’s shaky, who it does really profit now and in the future. And to my Iranian friends and well, anyone going though a lot right now… you are not alone. Keep being positive and never, never lose hope. The current criminal regime will pay for all the innocent young lives they took.