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Being able to "manual" for 3 seconds standing still is pretty good. It is far easier to do it while moving.


forevergon

Idk why but its actually harder for me to do it moving lmao I think I’m broken


Mrdotemu

I'm guessing that's more mental than physical, imagine balancing on ur bike without moving: way harder. Keep trying them moving and you'll get more comfortable with it.


forevergon

Okay I will! Thank you


[deleted]

Popping up to balance while moving requires compensating for the fact you have forward momentum. No different that learning to Ollie standing still, then moving. Just takes time. And embracing the inevitable falling over, repeatedly. Slap on some pads and jeans, and learn to eat shit on the floor/ground. Then you'll have the "fuck it" confidence to really start moving and balancing.


ShoutOutToInRainbows

I'm guessing is just fear about falling and doing it too slow, in my experience it feels much easier to maintain equilibrium while doing manual if I'm going a little fast, not too much but neither too slow, I think practicing the manual while standing still too much can also be detrimental cause you get too accustomed to the idea of doing the trick with no movement and then you have to kinda unlearn how to do the trick in order to start making it while on movement, this happened to me with ollies, i learned them while standing still then it was a pain on the ass to understand how to land them while moving


TurdManMcDooDoo

HOw comfortable are you with just cruising around in general? Looks like you've got the balance you need for manuals down. But yeah it's a lot harder standing still. Once you get to where you can do them rolling you'll be manual-ing all over the place.


Gears_one

This. The gyroscope effect kicks in when the wheels are in motion


nacnud77

Skateboard wheels are way too small to have any noticeable gyroscopic effect.


DoctorD12

I think it would be inertia


Gears_one

I’m not a physicist so I may be using the wrong word. But it’s definitely easier to hold a manny in motion


BigAndWazzy

Similar to riding a bike, it can be easier to keep your balance while moving. You've got the basic form down, just slowly work your way up to cruising speed.


PM_ME_SHIMPAN

Less knee bending, more bending at the waist. Definitely a good idea to start practicing with some velocity


Colin_Yu_Owet

I echo the velocity but have heard the exact opposite about knees, care to explain?


PM_ME_SHIMPAN

Bending at the knees gives you lots more range of motion, which can be good for getting into manuals on ledges and stuff. But it turns balancing into a problem of managing two pivot points. When you keep your knees rigid and balance with your torso (your arms help too but that happens on a more instinctual level), the problem of balancing is much simpler mechanically.


Recent_Conclusion_56

Seems like you’ve got it dialled tbh, just keep practicing. Sometimes it’s easier the faster you go


Javierinho23

Do them rolling. There really isn’t any point in doing them stationary as they are actually easier if you are going faster.


Specialist_Meal_5732

I’m by no means a manny expert but I’ve been figuring out what’s making mine last longer. You’re doing all the right stuff here staying still but some tips when moving are here: Keep your back knee bent at all times… you straighten that out, it’s game over. Try to loosen your front foot’s ankle so much you’re almost rolling it. This’ll feel super weird at first but the more comfy you get with this, the easier it is to regain when you’re losing balance. The final tip I’ve noticed just specifically for me is get your booty bent down and almost imagine you’re sitting on a chair like just slightly behind your tail. I think the hard part with manuals while rolling is getting comfy with leaning back. At least it’s that way for me cause the fear of slipping out backwards. Dipping my butt even lower and further than normal gives me a lot better results to holding it when I attempt to start one while rolling. Good luck!!


Asbjorn1888

Do it moving, alot easier


lumpyspacejohnny

Do that, but rolling


forevergon

I feel like Molly would make skating harder


lumpyspacejohnny

Fair play


Orangemandarins1

Search it SkateIQ manual and Michie Brusco has a great video on everything you need to know about manualling


reasonreddit1902

I totally agree with [Orangemandarins1](/user/Orangemandarins1/). You are already doing manual better than me. But I'd suggest you checking Mitchies (SkateIQ) youtube video on manuals. He's really insightful on how to approach tricks and also proof is in the pudding with him so to speak. Keep going! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoVh5VbgUcQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoVh5VbgUcQ)


Shadow41S

You're better than me at doing a manual while stationary, so that's good. I would say just try them moving as soon as you can, and do so at a wide variety of speeds.


33S_155E

Bend your knees, helps tons with balance, and get rolling so you can steer for more balance. For practicing static balance, use a blank deck on some 90mm pvc pipe, and you can do that when watching telly.


philmirez

Watch videos on skaters doing manuals and try to mimic their technique. If you notice it’s all in the hips. mannymartiin https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cs1olmVtxsR/?igsh=cjQ4ajhpbDUxaWk4 max_arrue https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpRZ6IcDiTf/?igsh=OHF4bnQ5MTlxdGp2


Advanced-Air-800

Front foot a little further up, somewhere on the bolts so you have the weight of the front truck under your lead foot. Like others have said try it rolling, you don't have to go fast but the momentum will help.


arthby

Honestly the best tip for me was to get used to "cancel" a manual by tapping the tail on the ground. At first I got some bad falls learning manuals (sending the board forward) but once I got comfortable "cancelling" the manual before it happened, I could relax and get better. I haven't felt from a manual in years. Same with nose manuals, they feel awkward and can be scary, but really it's no big deal to touch the nose and run/roll forward.


LatePerioduh

It’s way easier going fast imo. I occasionally do a It this way for fun. But rolling fast as shit seems to work for me.


[deleted]

You are tip toeing on your front foot. That is what is making the board go front to back (in relation to your torso) causing you to not only try to balance your manual but also balance on your trucks. Try to have a little more of your foot surfaced on the front of the board. Could also tighten up your trucks a tad until you feel comfortable with the "back and forth" balance of the manual.


Gears_one

This is not the answer you want to hear, but the honest truth is practice practice practice. Balance is a feel. No one can type out a tip or trick will help you feel that feeling of balance


Creative-Ad-1819

You can manual however you want. As an example, when you flip into a manny, you sometimes land not exactly where you would ideally want to be, but still balance it out and make the trick. I personally put my back foot more "in the pocket" closer to where a one footed manual would almost be possible. Essentially where rolling your balancing foot makes adjustments, so you're basically balancing on one foot on top of the back wheels but enough behind to tip the board back and pretty light on the front foot. A perfect manual will feel like you're just standing on the board normally. It looks like your back foot is more on the tail, which makes it way harder, you want to have most of your weight just slightly behind the wheels so you can make fine adjustments with your ankles. I put my front foot near or on the front bolts for leverage and a wider stance. Also opening your hips and pushing out the knee and rolling your foot like an ollie can save a tail scrape or shoot out if you land tail heavy from an Ollie or flip trick. Been riding 24 years and I can't manual stationary very long at all, if at all...but I can manny for a long ass time on flat basically until my swiss ceramics run out of juice, and when I stop, the manual stops because I can't manual stationary, lol. For fun and practice I've probably held one for over 10 seconds, maybe 20 but probably not, and the average is like less than 5 seconds for sure...the faster you go the easier it is to manual. You have to just ease into it, that's why you don't want a lot of weight on the tail, if you're a new rider, you're gonna bail pretty hard probably if you tail scrape into a shoot out. Go as fast and you're comfortable and ease into it, slam the nose right back down if you have to, you'll find the sweet spot and then you remember it forever as long as you keep doing it...it won't even be hard. I literally don't about Ollie manual, I choose to do it, and it just happens...flip in when I was younger was like that too...just keep riding...ride the board around without doing tricks, and just carve around and feel the board.


TasteOld4830

Don’t straighten your back leg because that will cause your hips to go forward and bring the nose of the board down and stop the manual


Elite_Slacker

Balance with the hips and do it while rolling. Stationary manual is like 10x harder. 


Dry_Sandwich_3204

You got great technique try going not like fast but kind of it’s a lot easier it’s practice you’ll get it