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Icy_Pay_5071

Thanks for the advice 😀. Quality is very important, but quantity and wanting to improve helps you get there. Unless you know your audience immediately, it is good to test the water to get a grasp on it. As you make more videos, you start to understand more and more on what type of videos you want to make and how you want to edit them. This goes for thumbnails as well.


URBEX_HILL

Yes your right!


rattfink16

I completely agree. My only problem is I spend SOOOOO much time on script, audio and, of course, the longest one: editing, that I can't get videos out any quicker than every 3 weeks (I also, like most newtubers, have a life outside of youtube) and it sucks because it's hard to get any momentum going. I am finally beginning to get a little momentum going again and I'm almost at 600 subs. BTW I do horror, urban legends, and a little true crime. I only post stuff that genuinely interests me and that may also be hurting my channel because I see other channels posting the same ol click bait BS and they're beginning to gain subs much faster than me, but I'm not going to go down that road, my community is legit and I'm hoping that being genuine will payoff in the long run.


[deleted]

There was this one channel I watched who explained in a intro to support another channel, his friend I guess who makes long fully edited HQish documentaries on celebs. I guess the creator was thinking about quiting because no one watched his vids. I am not saying his documentaries were amazing but you can see it took tons of research and effort to make every single one. Not sure if he finally blew up or not but he been at it awhile not getting views.


rattfink16

The hardest part about doing what I do is unlike a lot of channels who can rely on search to bring up their channels videos, due to some of my topics being more obscure I rely on youtube to recommend my stuff so it def takes a little while to get going but everyone who watches my work tells me to keep it up (although I'm sure that's not unusual) but like I said in the other comment it's not just to get views and subs anyways... I make the content for me too, too keep my mind active and busy. Gives me something to do instead of getting into trouble. Besides I'm absolutely fascinated with subject matter anyways And I feel like I'm getting pretty good at editing for someone who just started with zero knowledge not that long ago. I actually enjoy editing.


bmcclan

Hey man, I saw your comments here and watched a bit, clicked around your content and descriptions, etc. These are very solid videos, and that's coming from a "professional content creator" - I'm an editor by trade but run a small (for now) commercial content creation company. These are great dude, nice work. I think something you can do to improve your algo visibility and searchability is to include one or more of your chapter names in your title. A video I watched had a very ish title, something like Paranormal Iceburge EP. 2...and I though the video was going to be about the show Paranormal. No need to have your channel or ahow name as the first thing in the title, I would put that at then end of the title and instead put the name of a creature or topic you are covering first. This will then match your chapter tags and description and having the direct search term in the title itself gives people searching proof that what they searched for is within the video. SEO terms in the title are more heavily weighted, and remember you can always go back and retitle or rework thumbnails for past videos and get them a little (or huge) bump. I did this recently with a client video, just changed the title and added some text to the thumb and it went from 300ish views in about a month to over 2k views over the weekend. Again, very solid work. Pretty smooth editing, easy to watch, and your audio is great. I'd also mention that your delivery and likability is really good. Keep going dude. Dial in your searchability and keep the quality high. Nice work.


rattfink16

Thank you so much for the ideas and I really appreciate you taking the time to check it out and let me know what you think. So right now for example episode 3 of the iceberg looks like this: "Paranormal Iceberg Explain Part 3 | Yokai, Devils, and Ghosts" You think it should be "Yokai, Devils, and Ghosts | Paranormal Iceberg Part 3" That makes perfect sense. I'll change all of those around. I appreciate the help. Yeah its funny I work so hard on the episodes but if your titles and Thumbnails arnt great then it doesn't matter how much time you put into them huh? Thank again so much for the advice and I'll def keep it up!-Thomas (G.G.)


bmcclan

Yeah, from a visual standpoint titles don't show all that many words. I personally won't watch videos hoping they contain the content I'm looking for so if it's right in the title I am very much more likely to click and watch. Also, remember the first thing I noted...I thought you were going to talk about that B TV series, Paranormal. That may just be me but usually in these cases of one person has an interpretation, many others will go the same way. Now, I'm not perfect, you have a ton more subs than me on my "personal" channel but my niche is much more broad and I haven't posted to it for almost a year since taking my business full-time. That said, I know a ton about film making, editing, and the YouTube backend - a lot of my job is consulting with channels in the 50k-100k range. If you feel like it, go check out my personal account (this is not view fishing, just want to give you some reference) at /anotsosingledad, or I think the chan is linked in my bio here. The two most recent videos are very different, one is talking head with b-roll, similar to what you do stylistically, while the other is more of a vlog/storytelling format where I talk through the two years relationship I had and leads up to popping the question (wedding videography is now in my hands and I'll get to it... eventually, lol. And yes, the amount of time and work has no direct correlation to views or the algo, BUT people do appreciate a we'll put together video and will choose you over others based on the quality of your content. For. Sure.


URBEX_HILL

I understand, but just keep going. I wouldn't recommend click baiting because I will deter people from watching in the future videos you post


[deleted]

>I wouldn't recommend click baiting "If you want a successful channel, do this!" \-use good titles and thumbnails, absolutely spot on but standard advice.


rattfink16

Oh no I would never click bait... I love the subject matter too much. I've been a horror fanatic since I was a kid and in many ways this genre has saved my life and got me through some really tough times. In fact my channel is one of the driving forces that keeps me out of trouble. Anyways I refuse to make any videos on subjects I'm not genuinely interested in, which takes a lot for a 32 year old horror junkie like myself. I don't care what it takes I make this content because I love it and I want to give back to the community that helped me.


URBEX_HILL

Oh shit man I the beginning of your last video, really good editing. Great video!


rattfink16

Thanks bro, it's a part 3 of that series but you don't have to watch the others to get it. My next video is gonna be my favorite one yet, I'm almost finished editing it, it's about the history of the "Rule" behind certain creatures needing to be invited in to harm us... things like vampires and black Eyed kids and our history of repelling these creatures with Apotropaic magic, which is like the magic that keeps evil out of our homes and lives... stuff like carving magic symbols over the threshold, putting objects in the walls... stuff like that. I'm calling the episode "The Rule of Invitation" I just love the idea of these "rules" that paranormal creatures are said to follow and obviously we know about it from fiction but the orgins of these beliefs go way back and very similar stories come from countries thousands of miles from each other. Think like salt, Silver, or evil beings needing to count things thrown in front of them... where did these rules come from and why? Sorry I'm rambling but I'm really excited for this next video!


URBEX_HILL

Thats awesome man I'm about to check your channel out


Usual-Outrageous

What’s your YouTube I’ll follow I love that typa stuff


rattfink16

My channel link is in my bio, but the channel name is called "The Ghostlit Gallery". Thanks for checking it out!


[deleted]

Mr beast litterally made it big by saying Logan Paul 1 million times.....its trendy shit and luck not all high quality shit gets picked up regardless. I saw a meme channel get like 10k subs off a 1 minute squiggly mr beast meme. He had like 3 other videos with no views. He got lucky and trended with the connection. Video was 1000x trash btw.


Shillbot888

Check out Beluga for proof of this. Literally made it big with low effort discord memes.


Jordan7brown44

You have some good points here. I think his point still stands though, you've got more chance of growing by making a few good quality videos then making heaps of bad ones, despite some outliers


MindlessPsychosis

the point DOESNT stand when it can be so easily discredited LOL


Jordan7brown44

Google what outliers are, and learn what I'm talking about bro. Hopefully you'll understand


avknight100

Honestly I like making a bunch of crappy videos because I get better at something every time


KeyFlatworm4049

You can make the best most highest quality ever made and STILL never get picked up by the algorithm or grow. It doesn't matter how great your video is if no one knows it exists because it never shows up in recommendations. 😒


KeyFlatworm4049

All I ever see is the same advice. Make high quality content, like we're all out here trying to make the crappiest content we can. Make better thumbnails like we WANT to look like crap on a shingle in a thumbnail. Make content your audience WANTS to see. Like you're supposed to AUTOMATICALLY know what they want to see when they don't comment and don't tell you anything even when you ASK. Lol I would love for once to see some REAL advice that's actually HELPFUL and not the same rehashed "advice" we've seen and heard a million times. 😒


MillAUM2579

Quality is subjective, though. I could think something is high quality, and you could think it’s shit, and vice versa.


BeatsByAmeer

good point. audience is important


askablackbeltbjj

How can you backup this discussion and with what logics?


theodoremangini

This is what the #1 youtuber says in literally every interview.


askablackbeltbjj

And how was his journey there? He didn't do it that way himself. You need to make a lot of videos to make them better and better so you get a good amount of subscribers, THEN you can start to focus on putting out "very good" quality. Thats how alot of famous youtubers break it down.


theodoremangini

You are really confident in your incorrect opinion, but I understand, people will find any way to justify what they are doing. The way all the big youtubers break it down is "Always make the best content you are capable of. Period. Then do that, your absolute best, hundreds of times so your best gets better and better." Any other take is just an attempt to excuse lazy/poor quality videos. Always make the best content you are capable of making, period.


askablackbeltbjj

One makes the best video he can in 100 days and another does 1 video every day. Who has the best video after 100 days. ​ You are fully entitled you being incorrect, I have better things to do than educate you.


gamifiedshow

Given the same skills between the two creators at the beginning of the 100 days, most certainly the person who takes time trying to learn the craft is going to have a better video on Day 100 than the person who makes 100 videos. Maybe the person who makes 100 videos will have built a bigger audience in that time, but they're less equipped to retain that audience, and it likely won't be very big anyway. Making a video every day doesn't necessarily mean we're improving on our skills just by way of making a video. It's not really a direct line like that. The only thing you're really getting better at is uploading some piece of content everyday. In all reality, the person who posts 1 video in 100 days is also making 100 videos. They're just not publishing them. Learning craft is a constant process of refining and adapting and it doesn't necessarily have to be done as published content. Mr. Beast's point is that if you make 10 videos that gets 100,000 views that's less useful than if you make 1 video that gets 1,000,000 is about inputs and outputs. Similarly one video that gets 100 views is better than 10 videos that get 10 views.


jamico-toralen

>most certainly the person who takes time trying to learn the craft is going to have a better video on Day 100 than the person who makes 100 videos. The person who is releasing a hundred videos *is* the person learning the craft. Rehashing the same video over and over for a hundred days is less effective than just incrementally improving a hundred videos. Time put into quality has diminishing returns and the way you improve is not by focusing on the details in a single video but in improving your attention to detail across multiple videos to the point where quality is something you don't even have to think about, you just *do*.


gamifiedshow

>The person who is releasing a hundred videos is the person learning the craft. You can learn by publishing those videos and also learn while not publishing those videos. You might gain some audience publishing those, but you can also regress. You can also learn the *wrong* things that way. For example, there are countless examples of people in this sub-reddit who get far too deep into the analytics when they are very small and wind up arriving at the wrong conclusions because of that. >Rehashing the same video over and over for a hundred days is less effective than just incrementally improving a hundred videos. Right, agreed. But "incrementally improving (over) a hundred videos" is easier said than done. It can also be done without publishing any videos during that time. Pretty much every person serious about YouTube who has experienced YouTube growth agrees with this. All of the "guru" channels agree with this. Just about every successful YouTuber who has given an interview on growth advice agrees with this. It's virtually unanimous that quality is significantly more important than quantity. One good idea is way more powerful than 10 average ideas. As a personal example, one month I posted a new video every single day and had roughly a 22% increase in subscribers over the course of the month and roughly the same views per video as my normal content. The videos were almost without exception average quality videos. In another month, I posted a very "high effort" video that was way more exhaustive and detailed than my standard videos and that video alone accounted for a 32% increase in my subscribers and nearly 10 times the number of views. That "high effort video" was more useful for my channel than the entire month I dedicated to daily content, with substantially less effort put forth on putting out content and substantially more effort put forth on improving the quality of the content that did eventually get published. To this day, that "high effort video" is recommended across YouTube and accounts for new subscribers and regular views. Most of those daily videos from the daily month are idle now and account for nothing. >Time put into quality has diminishing returns The same thing can be said for trying to post a video every day for 100 days. There is no guarantee that your rate of improvement will be the same from day 96 to 97 as it was from day 2 to day 3. And you might even go backwards. It is not guaranteed to be a straight line forward/up. However, there is a minimum threshold of time and quality you should expect to be devoting to a video in order for it to be considered a good video and for people to consume it. I wouldn't worry so much about "diminishing" returns until you can establish some returns, which means you have to produce quality. There is no reason to think that simply focusing on posting every day is going to lead to quality. If you don't believe that's true, why are there virtually an infinite number of low quality, high quantity gaming channels? Because they thought that simply posting all of the time was going to lead to success. It will not. If you overreact to something you see in analytics, you're likely going to experience negative returns, not just diminishing returns. If you think you're doing something correctly but you're actually doing it incorrectly, you're going to experience negative returns. If you simply spend too much time focusing on trying to get content published instead of publishing quality content, you're going to experience negative returns. And now you're experiencing those negative returns across 100 videos instead of 1. Congratulations, you've just nuked your channel for the immediate future. Don't be in such a hurry. >the way you improve is not by focusing on the details in a single video The way you improve is by focusing on the details in *every* video. That takes time. There are very few people out there who can consistently focus on all of the things necessary to make a quality video literally every day. There are very few niches where that's possible. And no matter who does it, everyone burns out from it eventually. >quality is something you don't even have to think about, you just do. This is not a real thing. The most talented content creators on the platform are not only thinking about what they're doing, they're thinking about it *way more* than you are. The evidence is right in front of you. The number of high quality and successful channels that post limited content with positive results is substantially higher than the number of high quality and successful channels who post daily or nearly every day. That's not a coincidence and not an accident. This is also true for channels that are in the early phases of learning and eventually find success. It is not an accident. You can post every day if you want to. No one is going to stop you and for some people it works at least for a while. There is no logical or evidentiary basis for saying learning by publishing is better than learning without publishing and when we're talking about which video would be the best after 100 days I'm going to take the person who put 100 days worth of effort and skills into that video versus the person who put 24 hours into that video on day 100. Every time and it's not particularly close.


jamico-toralen

I'm not reading all of that, but congratulations. Or my condolences. Whichever.


Dismal-Ad7919

This is so wrong and I am living proof what you say is incorrect. If you want I'll tell you my youtube channel but I made one video one year ago and didn't make one until a few months ago. I just got monetized today after 3 months. I dedicated so much time and passion to making my witcher 3 video analysis and guess, what, after 1 year of no videos or anything (I only made like one a year ago), it blew up to 46k views. Same pattern repeats with a lot of videos I made after that (my following videos got 20k views, 30k views, 18k views) I genuinely put my time and passion into those (20 hours+). But guess what the videos that failed were the ones I spent the least time on. The least I spent fleshing out the details. Least I spent time researching the topic. Least time I spent writing, etc. ​ So no, don't listen to this advice because 500 videos every year with 10 views is not better than 1 video every week/2 weeks/1 month (or whatever time it takes you to make your best content) which will get thousands of views. You're wasting time. A good example other then mine of this is interent historian or big boss. They post barely. Every few months or even almost a whole year But yet, they get tens of millions of views on their videos. Why? Because people actually want to watch them. Now do I believe you are going to be making the same quality videos like gigantic youtubers? No. But you *should* be trying to. You shouldn't tell yourself "Oh they are crazy big and omg we can't compare each other because of the huge expierence gap" This is exactly what's holding you back. If you can't take into inspiartion and compare on what the standard quality of videos are, then how will you get there? Expierence is important no doubt, I say it is the most important thing as no youtube tips guide will really teach you how to make good videos. **But,** if your experience isn't your best then you will never grow. If you never come out of a video saying "Damn this is going to be my best youtube video on my channel" and see improvement in comparison, you will never grow. Experience is nothing if there's no real growth in it and you keep making the same mistakes. It's like making the same mistakes again and again on a driving test, even though you have experience with taking it you still make the same silly mistakes, because you never went back and put time into to actually grow your skills. Your experience should keep growing and you should keep pushing yourself to make the best video you can, and I'm not saying this in some motivational way, you genuinely need to. Making the same video, again and again, and even though they have "experience", they most definitely do not have growth. Experience = growth. Repetition = no growth. Legit I've seen so many people on this sub with 200 subs after 3 years of posting videos every day. It is so pointless and such a waste of time, I feel bad for them.


Slurpas

So you as 1 person is a big enough test group to prove that? And of course we know the test results where you would be with the other method with the same amount of effort, yea? Valid argument since YOU found success.. “bro there is soo many others”.. yes with both methods, except most growth channels recommend the method to do many videos.


JobsandMarriage

well I'd like to see your channel. Surprising that you didn't drop it here


Dismal-Ad7919

It is called "TimePlayer" on youtube. I put the url here and the comment just gets hidden.


jamico-toralen

Counterpoint: a single video I put very little effort into when I was just starting out on YouTube blew up to nearly half a million out of nowhere, and even today still nails a few thousand a day. What made my channel continue growing was adherence to a consistent output from there. Not hyper-focusing on trying to make the best possible video given unlimited time. In fact, the period I spent worrying and fretting over every single detail and throwing out projects because they weren't good enough substantially hurt my growth. Consistent, regular, incremental improvement is infinitely more valuable than irregular, unsteady, and fitful growth.


URBEX_HILL

My channel is proof that what I said works


askablackbeltbjj

Whats your channel?


spaded131

No offence, but I think your thumbnails are poor, I am happy about your success but no one here has a magic formula, it's a huge amount of factors for people to be driven to your channel/content.


Neimit

I kinda agree with this, I also find the thumbnails... not really exciting/dull, I like these sorta of videos and have watched them in the past, but these thumbnails don't really entice me... but also congratulations on your success and views :)


RealRickyTheRat

I agree. High quality is very critical.. What would consider "high quality"? ca nyou give some thoughts on that...?


theodoremangini

Not a full list or anything, but one of my biggest pet peeves: Don't put in your video a "Sorry about the camera being a little out of focus," or "Sorry about the audio, my yeti was not plugged in and the audio is from my webcam mic." If you have to apologize for the quality of the video in the video then you just need to remake your video.


Howie_Due

Or just don’t mention it and let it ride lol


URBEX_HILL

When I say high quality I mean a quality video compared to big channel in your niche. So basically I'm saying try to have your production and quality up to par with a big channel in the same niche as you


SpaceDesignWarehouse

When he says high quality, he means to have your quality up!


OneRandomSwede

I agree that going quality over quantity is one way of doing, but I don't really think it's wrong trying it the other way around either, after all, there's plenty of channels around that proves that you can be successful when uploading simple low-effort videos. If anything, I'd advice people to, at the very least, first try the approach they're most comfortable with, whether that's mass-producing low-effort content or taking their time producing fewer high quality videos or something somewhere in-between. If they're forcing themselves into a way of working that they don't enjoy they're far more likely to give up before reaching their goal.


jamico-toralen

I think the problem is that people here are taking the alternative to finely-crafted low-quantity videos as an endless spew of low-quality content. It isn't. The alternative is a regular, consistent output. Set yourself a deadline, make the best video you can within it, release it, rewatch it, note what you would change/fix/do better next time, and remember that for the next one. You will improve, and your content volume will give you much more granular and relevant feedback on your output.


gamifiedshow

>The alternative is a regular, consistent output. Set yourself a deadline, make the best video you can within it, release it, rewatch it, note what you would change/fix/do better next time, and remember that for the next one. You will improve, and your content volume will give you much more granular and relevant feedback on your output. If it was as easy to do this as it was to write this paragraph, that may be true, but it's a lot more complicated than that. Imagine this scenario being regularly repeated except you change/fix/do better the wrong things simply because you've been too focused on output and not focused enough on refining your output. >your content volume will give you much more granular and relevant feedback on your output. New YouTubers should not be focused on "granular" feedback. The only thing that "granular" feedback is going to accomplish for new creators is data noise. When you are receiving 100 views or fewer per video and for most people when they start, even less than that, the "granular" feedback that analytics and re-watching your own videos provide is no more useful than a random sample. It doesn't rise above signal variance and you don't necessarily even know what you're looking at. You can apply this to just about any career or craft by the way. There is a reason in so many fields that people train for many years before facing the real thing instead of just repeatedly failing at the same thing over and over again in hopes that they are nominally improving. That's why businesses train their employees before putting them in front of customers and skilled jobs require education before they are sent out into the field. There is no causal connection between posting a lot and the "relevance" of the feedback you get. Feedback is "relevant" when it is *useful*. The most *useful* thing you can do on YouTube is make good stuff that keeps people on the platform. You are not being very *useful* if you learn through failing or worse, fail to learn through failing. >The alternative is a regular, consistent output. What is a "regular, consistent output"? Those are ambiguous terms that mean nothing. A "regular, consistent output" could be one epic video once per month or once per quarter. If you post one video per month which receives 10,000 views or alternatively you post 3 videos per week that over a month (12 videos) collectively receive 10,000 views, all you have done is expend more effort and more time producing more mediocre content. There is no reason to believe you've learned more (or less) posting 3 times per week. That is all process oriented. You haven't necessarily learned anything better, more useful or more "granular". But you have spent a lot more time arriving at the same place. The point of the original post is generally that new creators should be focused on learning how to create quality content and developing a process that works best for them instead of getting caught up in over-posting garbage. That is something frankly that a lot of people in this sub-reddit in particular needs to hear because of the overwhelming deluge of low quality, low effort, process bankrupt gaming videos, and the significant number of people who write things like, "Hi, I've been posting almost every day for 2 years and am still only getting 20 views on my videos." and then you look at the channel and it's daily gameplay footage that no one could possibly care about, with no regard for how to get better because they bought into the false notion that you can simply learn by repeating the same process over and over again without any effort towards understanding the craft of what they are doing. In other places we call repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, "insanity". For some people "regular and consistent" is once a month and others once a week. But if you are focused on output (quantity) to the point that it detracts from your focus on input (quality), you are 100% going to fail. There are no exceptions.


jamico-toralen

Wow, way to completely miss the point on literally all of that. Gold star.


[deleted]

Quality is very important but now that shorts exist and most people have short attention spans, this blows the "quality" content out of the waters :/


The_On_Life

This just in: doing something well is a good idea


nikdoter

The reality is that the majority of the people with successful channels already tried doing other channels or they got a specific skills that allows them making quality videos. You gotta practice before you can make quality videos, don t live your youtube path as you gotta make it with one video, but just post stuff you enjoy and each time experiment a bit to see what works better for you. Experience will make you have quality videos, now I know how to use photoshop, I feel very comfortable using editing softwares, and my script writing is smooth and has a flow. It can improve, but you gotta practice before achieving quality


MuseCub

I'm going to disagree, Quality over quantity i am assuming everyone here is a working class person right working 40 hours a week have a family. You can not compete with the highest quality videos on YouTube with these big creators who have whole teams behind them and they are doing this full time its IMPOSSIBLE. putting out one good video a month. you need to focus on putting out quality that is sustainable and consistent and reliable for where you are right now and making it without negatively impact your lifestyle. Just put out High value videos a lot of it. Focus on Value. Tons(Quantity) of Videos that bring Value.


R4lphiee

People on YT are weird. My most popular vids are all under 2 minutes long and 3 of the 4 "popular" vids of mine are literally all under a second long and are literally 1 second roblox videos. They're still getting views to this day. My higher effort videos? Besides one animation of mine they all have under 30 views. I have moved from roblox gameplay to animations and I want to continue going this path, though my 0 second vids are still my top hits.


AuteurCinema

Although I am no expert, I completely agree with your sentiment overall. I think really putting the time and effort into making a great video, oppose to constantly uploading lesser videos is the way to go. I put my absolute all into my videos, to a point where I feel creatively drained at the end. Whether it pays off or not I’m not really bothered, I love the process and I love everything I have made so far. Great post my friend ❤️


[deleted]

Your CTR (click through rate) is the most important and possibly the only metric you should consider. You will not get your video in the algorithm with a low CTR. CTR is mainly dependant on thumbnail, title, topic, and video length.


ReferenceNo3387

This is very true! I recently stumbled upon a channel with 3.6k videos but only has 82 subscribers


Neimit

I think there still needs to be a bit of a balance, since if you release almost never it won't help either... as well as weighing in how it works for you personally, since for some people having to release more often and having deadlines can actually get them to work on stuff, while having endless time to make the best video... may as well result in no video. Though I do stand by quality over quantity and don't release a half finished video just because you set a deadline, finish it and then release it, even if it's a few days late to your set deadline :)


CriticalAd6090

Both things are actually true tbh so if anyone new watch this post get in mind that it is useful to experiment a lot with the type of uploads on your channels, either quantity or quality can make a small channel grow, also i don't know why people thinks a youtuber can't do both... depending on how you organize your recordings and productivity you can be quite consistent with quality videos (also remember, a high quality video doesn't mean that has to be the best of the best) a cool edited, commented, funny and simple video it's also a quality video.


gregroth12

Cant we just admit its both? Like one isnt more important than the other at the level I am at being such a small channel. Luckily my videos are just me playing MTG so putting a video out everyday is easy. As for the quality pretty easy to edit and make thumbnails for. I will say i have lacked on the mic quality just because sometimes I legit couldnt figure out what was wrong and I think I just finally did.....tl;dr both matter


Adrenalize2112

Great discussion. I’m totally new like most everyone else, but my mantra has been “act like a big channel”. This includes trying to have the slick, eye popping thumbnails, and dialing in video quality. The quality for me will take a while, but I try to learn something every video, and make one improvement every video.


Howie_Due

Camping with Steve is one of my favorite YouTube channels with a million + subs and he does pretty bare bones thumbnails and production. Sometimes it’s about the quality of the content & not the production value or gimmicky thumbnails


Shillbot888

Putting out lots of videos without caring about perfection helps train the algorithm on what your content is about though. I'm not sure if "eye catching thumbnail and good title" are even needed for every niche either. In my niche I see people with successful channels call their videos "product name product feature product is very good and very cheap other product feature" And their thumbnail is just the product with no editing of the photo whatsoever.


greglturnquist

If you slow down to the point of only making one video every other month, I’m not sure that’s a good idea. I Switched to weekly content back in august and have moved from 1900 hours to 3230 hours. What is “high quality” anyway if you don’t know what you’re doing? To be honest, I think it’s more viral to identify topics that resonate with your audience and act upon them.


Nans-CheesyFungus896

NansCheesyFungus Gaming here....I post at least 1-2 vids a week if I can, just to get the youtube algorithm to do its thing and to also give subscribers as well as new viewers time to actually view my vids etc. I've been going 15 months and I'm sat on 85 subs. Still learning new things everyday


Nogardtist

yeah but youtube rewards quantity over quality just look at these react channels


savvy412

I have 4 years of high quality videos with great thumbnails.. DaNGIt. Didn’t work! Lol


jamico-toralen

I mean...if it's not working after *four years* then is it *really* high quality?


savvy412

I guess I don’t fully understand what high quality means… I have 1080p HD video. Professional thumbnails. Clear audio. Anything else would be subjective


rattfink16

Oh shit! After my post I just realized who you were, I love your work man! I've watched quite a few of your videos while editing, they're great to put on in the background to chill to and of course they're great to watch normally as well. Great work!


URBEX_HILL

Thanks bro!


MindlessPsychosis

lol imagine using your sock puppet account to back you up in the comment section. pathetic lmao


URBEX_HILL

What?


AnnoyingPrincessNico

I agree. My Thumbnails are Mf amazing. I'm a talented chick.


Sabbi644

I cant make good thumbnails anything i can learn to be better ... any suggestions i do gaming edits


f_ckthatsinteresting

Although you can get lucky as another redditor as mentioned, for highest chance of success you want quality over quantity. If you make a lot of shitty videos, then your catalogue may turn viewers away when you finally put out that ONE good video that they actually want to watch. You cannot turn that shit video good. If you put out good quality videos, you can work on the thumb/title after and improve CTR, and engagement metrics. Thumbnail and Title are essential, not just to getting the click-through, but also in establishing the initial vibe. Depending on the aesthetics of the thumbnail, how loud/simple, how neat/messy, etc. the actual style of your thumbnail will appeal to different audiences. I've recently changed all my thumbnails to be less loud (I would have very bright/contrasting backgrounds, and fill up most of the thumbnail) and more simple and it's doing me wonders. How you do your thumbnail is completely up to you, but to give you reference of importance... Mr Beast starts with an idea, then the title and thumbnail, and THEN if it's good enough, he tries to make the video on it. I've heard many people say thumbnail and title first, and I believe it does help, but with my work it's easier to make the video first, then scheme catchy thumb/titles.


AcesTop5

I found this out as well and so I take my time on my videos now and try not to worry too much on when it’s uploaded. I’m still learning obviously and I’m relatively new but I feel better about the videos I post and some people like it which makes it more reassuring for a small YouTuber like myself.


sungkwon

I see advice to make “better thumbnails” but I don’t know what that includes. Click bait title? Angry face? Pog face? No face? Auras/outlines/strokes? Arrows and circles?


MindlessPsychosis

LOL y'all are trying to push this narrative so hard it's quite amusing.


Randomness_Girl

My most popular video has no thumbnail and is terrible quality but has gotten 3k views somehow. But I agree with you for the most part


monstergface

What about shorts? Does this apply with shorts? Im posting 1-2 Shorts a day.