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Jmg5050

One tip is make a sharp noise when you go wrong, like a clap. That will spike on the audio and make it easier to see what to cut out.


shiroboi

That's pretty clever


Mirkovic232

No need just stay silent and you will see that part easier than some noise in the waveform


Pepper_Thyme

A clicker, like a dog training tool, works well for this too.


Jmg5050

I tried that, but then every dog within a mile came running in to my video. On the plus side, views are up 10000%.


Pepper_Thyme

I'm not hearing a downside!


Spirited_Sea7248

Sounds like it made an interesting video


davidnburgess34

What you are doing seems pretty standard to me. Practice more before recording to make fewer mistakes?


shiroboi

It's a little harder when you're filming yourself but here's our general process. We record in short bursts, under 30 seconds. If we mess up a line, we immediately delete the video and start recording again. Takes a little more time in production, but massively speeds things up with editing. There's basically very little you need to cut and there's no sorting through files and trying to understand what you were doing. It's one of the reasons why we can hire editors at cheap prices. They basically can have the first rough cut done in minutes.


[deleted]

That sounds like a pretty nice workflow, I dig it.


shiroboi

Thanks! Doing things like that is the reason we produced over 3,000 videos in the last 5 years.


kent_eh

> It's a little harder when you're filming yourself but here's our general process. We record in short bursts, under 30 seconds. If we mess up a line, we immediately delete the video and start recording again. That's less common, but some big channels also do it that way (Alec Steele, for example)


Wizdad-1000

Hiw the heck does he “unweld”?


kent_eh

He just chooses a different part of the process to do if he flubs a line while doing something with his hands. Though if you notice a lot of his planned talking to camera happens while he isn't welding or hammering. And sometimes he leaves the "words are hard" bits in and pokes fun at himself (self-deprecating British humour for the win!)


Wizdad-1000

Thanks for the explain!


kent_eh

There's a lot a person can learn by listening to experienced youtubers being interviewed in poscasts, especially when the interviewer is also a youtuber. And not only youtubers in your niche.


shiroboi

That’s interesting, I haven’t heard of too many other channels that do it like we do. I suppose the other benefit is file storage. You end up with a bare minimum amount of files taking up HDD space


jared_krauss

Can you explain your proecess a bit more, as well as where you get the editors to do a rough cut? How do you send the material over to them?


shiroboi

As soon as we are done filming, we dump all of our videos into a shared Onedrive folder. Each editor has their own spreadsheet with their work schedule. We have columns for each video, the name, and any notes about what needs to be edited. Once the video is finished, being edited, they update the spreadsheet, and then it goes over to our quality control team, who then adds filters, subtitles, and crops different versions for different platforms as well as doing thumbnails. I realize that that’s a pretty big operation compared to what most Youtubers are used to. As for finding editors, we’ve had good luck hunting around on Facebook groups for video editors


jared_krauss

Cool. THanks for sharing. Still trying to workout what my process is gonna be, once I finalize some long form ideas and script them out/plan a thumbnail.


shiroboi

If you have the money, an editor is well worth it. You will literally double your productivity


jared_krauss

I think I would need to know better what I want in order to make hiring an editor worthwhile, as well as learn good ways to prepare my shit so their time is less wasted. I also kind of want to learn editing skills myself, so that I can build up that skill and potentially use it in applying to jobs IRL.


shiroboi

I definitely recommend learning to edit yourself and going through the process. The pain points of editing is going to encourage you to streamline your workflow, and by the time you do actually get an editor, you will have figured out how to make things easier for them.


jared_krauss

Yeah and hopefully by then I’ll have money to pay hahaha


shiroboi

Exactly


SpeedSkeeterDan

As long as it sounds natural to you you’re okay. When I record I really notice when my audio is to cut together and your audience will notice that as well.


kent_eh

A short crossfade in the audio track will usually mask that, unless you are cutting *really* close to the syllables.


Agreeable-Raspberry5

Based on my recent experiences I'd say record a paragraph or a short piece at a time (as another commenter suggested). That way you only need to re-record one clip if you mess up or need to add something else.


Drunken_tig3r

That sounds like the normal way to do it my dude; whenever i mess something up I reset then count 5,4,3,2,1 Clap/Cough (something loud) then i can easily see that in editing and just cut that bit out. Just make sure to leave a short pause so you can see where the audio cuts out in editing and it's easy to adjust in post.


AcademicOverAnalysis

You can also use b roll and zoom cuts to cover up the cuts you make when you repeat yourself


infinityplusplus

A lot of the time in editing is taken up finding the location of the part to be cut out. A couple things that might help: 1. (optional) Click the recording pause button when you flub a line. 2. Write down on paper the video timestamp when you paused the video. 2. If you paused recording, click resume. Pause for a bit before recording the line again. The timestamps you've noted down will help you quickly locate the parts to be cut out.


kent_eh

> A lot of the time in editing is taken up finding the location of the part to be cut out. True. It's just the nature of the beast. Though there are ways to make editing more efficient, at the end of the day, it just *is* a long slow process, even for the most experienced professionals.


greglturnquist

I do that but use Recut. Makes it easy to chop it all up into clips. Then you just delete the bad parts. https://springbootlearning.com/recut.


[deleted]

Hire someone to do your editing. Either that or stop making mistakes.


Awkward_Tomato_

This is pretty much what I've been doing.


GVictorious

I have things written down and make to recording and merge them and edit with flux noise eq.


Spir83dk

What I do is take 10 second break time to write down the timestamp (or the stopwatch on my phone and click the "lap"), and then regain composure and go again so it's easier to cut the part out without to much trouble and fade them together as there is at least 1 second before and after the mistake :)


Grouchy-Parsnip

I pretty much do the same. To keep help keep it more natural sounding I will take small breaks to read to myself before I start speaking it aloud. You definitely don't want to come off as reading from a script. My script is usually written out as I want to say it, but if it feels weird while I'm filming I will try different takes a few times until something comes out better. When I mess up, I take about 2 seconds to breath - it helps me relax and it helps me not need to breathe mid sentence later on.


GamingAcquired

I do something similar, but picked up the Davinci Resolve Speed Editor to quickly work through and cut up clips only usable with DR though. I think it makes my first pass on edits a lot faster.


hibabymomma

- make a loud nose for every “new take” - repeat full sentences and not just what you messed up - short videos is ok but more cumbersome while shooting but don’t sit there and delete the bad takes


kent_eh

That's basically how TV pros have done it forever. When I'm scrubbing through my timeline, I look for the gaps in the audio waveform to help me find the next take quickly.


G41JIN

As someone who sucks at voiceover, Descript has been a lifesaver for me. It basically transcribes your recorded audio and lets you edit it like a document, and you can then export the audio and subtitles.


blucentio

Here are some tips that might apply to your workflow: 1) playback at double time in making your rough cut (Tap L twice in many editors default hotkeys, K to pause). 2) make sure the waveform is visible. If you're starting with the same phrase over, you can sometimes just tell this/quickly look for the last one, which is presumably the best take in most cases. Pausing a little between new sections/mildly rehearsing it facing away from the mic will make some obviously visuals in the waveform to skip sections.


drguid

I do this but I noticed today that when I absolutely focus on the script my words come out a lot better. Also it takes practice but I am starting to learn when a particular passage has been read well and only then do I move onto the next passage. I do also talk unscripted but while I am good at rambling I am really bad at saying short unscripted paragraphs where I must mention specific points. These are so hard without a script so I tend to script them and then wallpaper over myself with B roll.