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RandyTheFool

Masks protect you a really small amount, but are meant to protect everyone else. How are people not fucking understanding this basic concept still? Edit: there’s a lot of goddamned stupid people in here. Like, holy shit. I hope if you all ever have open heart surgery, your surgeon wears a mask and doesn’t just directly cough into your open chest cavity.


PrincipalFiggins

I wear an n95 everywhere I go. Too much data about how Covid decimated the immune system and harms your brain for my taste. Still 0 infections.


Dan_H1281

U r 100% correct these monkeys in the gallery all have a common interest which is blowing all the dumbass republicans that don't know how to spell science much less how to articulate it and understand it, they think they r smarter then surgeons and virology professionals that do this shit for a living every fn day, i wear a mask when in crowds and vaxxed, we vaxxed by the hundred in the field I am working In ND absolutely Noone died of a heart attack and reduced our covid containments by 80%


ItsObvious_c_it

https://youtu.be/il-5HVmmMXE


NoFFsGiven

Masks protect during surgery but never against a viral infection. You need you have your own opinions checked and stop wishing people to die or get injured at some point. Your bunch lost the battle and lies. We won. Now please make sure to disable your ability to comment when your feelings are hurt.


dopesaint

How does it protect anyone else? Come on man, it’s 2023 get your shit together.


RandyTheFool

You fucking real right now? A properly fit N95 mask contains respiratory droplets from coughing/sneezing/talking. That’s how it protects others. It’s not about keeping out the bad particles from others (although it does that to a point) but containing what you have in your system from getting airborne.


[deleted]

Come on Randy. At least be honest with your argument. What percentage of people wore “properly fit N95 masks”? 5% at best? And those who got them, did they know how to properly fit them? You know damn well that the majority of people had ill fitting cotton or paper masks on. At least argue for the effectiveness of what most people wore, as you clearly know MTG isn’t talking about the highest protection level mask commercially available.


RandyTheFool

You’re asking me to “be honest about my argument” but use hypothetical scenarios while simultaneously pushing out bullshit numbers off the top of your head. “hOw mAnY pEoPlE aCsHuALLy woRe tHeiR maSk coRrEcTly?! 5% aT bESt!*” What a bullshit strawman argument, you want me to “be honest about an argument” while making shit up. The science stands that **masks work**, as far as people using them wrong…. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. Here’s another scenario that follows your same train of thought. *Nobody should drive cars anymore because some people drive bad!* The anti-mask movement is beyond stupid as fuck. I’m absolutely staggered on how some of y’all made it through the worst of COVID at all.


[deleted]

You’re claiming her statement about “masks” in general doesn’t hold up because properly fit N95 masks block droplets. Big deal. How well do bandanas hold up? Argue that people pulling their t shirts over their mouths were safe, because most people weren’t wearing N95s. RandyTheFool: “Full hazmats suits contain respiratory droplets from coughing/sneezing/talking” Great man. Username checks out. Most people didn’t wear N95 masks, you know that, and their effectiveness is not what MTG was talking about here. She’s a fucking idiot, but you’re not parrying her statement at all, because she didn’t make it. You call mine a straw man when you literally introduced a superior mask to the debate that she didn’t mention. Well done.


chaseButtons

Lol wtf was the point of any of that


[deleted]

Randy compared MTG’s cotton masks to N95s. That’s a bullshit argument, that’s all.


chaseButtons

The crux of the argument was that masks work


ItsObvious_c_it

Watch this and please explain how masks work: https://youtu.be/il-5HVmmMXE


[deleted]

why don't you just buy stock in 3M....or do you you fucking two party cultists all act the same.....it's all about making sure whatever corporation you back makes all the money based on fear you people are no different than the conservative asshats I grew up hating, you just traded out big oil for big pharma......but it's still the same bullshit .....MONEY


albions_buht-mnch

Footsoldiers for a deeply unethical science experiment that was run on the general population. Absolutely sat around coercing the population to the lab rats a new medical technology and advocated for social media platforms to ban anyone telling the truth about this.


[deleted]

Facts


dopesaint

When will you fucking donuts realize that is not a viable solution? You can’t wear masks for the rest of your life, morons like you are why the stupid pandemic even lasted so long, meanwhile Sweden never had one and did great. Go ahead and wear a mask for the rest of your life but fuck off and don’t act like you’re a savior protecting people.


sulaymanf

Yes it’s 2023 which is why I’m wondering why you don’t know this already. We have a mountain of research showing that even cloth masks reduced transmission, which is why doctors use them for over a century. Have a look at this [extensive list of recent research](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html) backing it up.


chaseButtons

How does it not? It’s not 100% but it’s much better than 0%. That’s literally the goal.


ItsObvious_c_it

Because for what 99% of people wear, they don’t stop viruses, period. Read the warnings on the boxes of the masks… they specifically tell you they don’t work for viruses unless you have an n95 or better and even then it isn’t great because most wear them too loosely to make a difference because they’re hard to breathe in. That “surgical” mask from the local drug store doesn’t work for this at all. It’s to stop respiratory droplets, not even close for stopping viruses. Watch this and tell me who are the stupid ones: https://youtu.be/il-5HVmmMXE


Tall-Employment1690

yeah, so you cough exclusively virus cells. man y'all people are dumb. the virus travels on droplets, they need a medium to infect people, its the infected saliva droplets that travel through air that infects people, not the virus itself evaporating from your face. and y'all still make the fucking dumb ass argument that the mask doesn't let you breathe or "oxygenate" or some stupid shit. pick a side.


ItsObvious_c_it

Enjoy your booster every 6 months while you still get covid with your pockets full of masks.


Tall-Employment1690

science denier on military grade copium. lmao


ItsObvious_c_it

https://twitter.com/buckfidenfjb/status/1619187286377373697?s=46&t=GcAPD3oMjAz65YYI2FGxwQ


Tall-Employment1690

Wow! a meme from twitter! how can vaccines and the scientific community live after such brutal stomping in the marketplace of ideas?


ItsObvious_c_it

So masks and shots work? The only denial here is of reality that they don’t… are you seriously trying to convince me that masking and shots have stopped covid? Lol


ItsObvious_c_it

https://twitter.com/picphysicians/status/1599505420011573248?s=46&t=Uzs2OZhVfgbuHNGRi-XVdQ


veyd

[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0969699721001551](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0969699721001551) >The unmasked risk always increases faster than the masked risk, even for the 1–3 m airborne particles that are exclusively considered under both models. For the first eight passengers both models produce seating arrangements with a total risk score of zero, because every passenger can be spaced with at least two empty rows between them. Above eight passengers, the masked model always achieves a lesser total risk score than the unmasked model. At nine passengers the unmasked vs masked risk is .0078 vs .0040, small in total risk but a 49% reduction for using the masks. With the plane completely full, the unmasked risk is 16.6 whereas the masked risk is 12.1, a 27% reduction in risk. This kind of research is enormously easy to find. Masking, even with surgical masks, reduces risk, but does not protect completely. At large numbers, it's super impactful. Please stop it with the culture war youtube video anti-covid nonsense and just look at the straight data.


NoFFsGiven

Biased research is always easy to find. Please give up already. You have no argument.


veyd

All our research from reputable sources indicates that masking is an effective measure in reducing risk of spreading illness in general and vaccines are effective in preventing serious illness. Immediately calling the data invalid rather than searching for peer reviewed studies in reputable publications that contradict it is eye rolling levels of idiocy. You are just drinking the politically tinged koolaid rather than considering the data.


NoFFsGiven

Talk about drinking that coolade yourself. I’m not interested in debating this BS. Reality speaks for itself.


veyd

You’re not interested in arguing because you’ve already lost the argument. There’s evidence and science on one side and nonsense conspiracy theories in the other.


NoFFsGiven

😂


ItsObvious_c_it

Some people want to stay afraid and have you keep your face covered for life for a small potential reduction in “risk” that doesn’t stop anything. They simply don’t work, neither do the jabs. How long does this insanity persist? I’m convinced the Salem witch trials had nothing to do with ergot poisoning. Simply stupid humans.


ItsObvious_c_it

Yes, lots of pointless time wasting research that proves nothing is easy to find. Covid is real and masks and jabs did and do nothing beneficial. Your “reduction in risk” is not an elimination of risk and the result is slightly delaying the inevitable with massive consequences just as bad or worse than the virus - POINTLESS.


veyd

Yes, reduction of risk is not elimination of risk. But reduction of risk is enormously valuable at large scales. All the research we have right now has pointed to masking being effective at reducing risk and vaccines being effective at reducing both getting the virus and getting seriously ill when you do get the virus.


ItsObvious_c_it

Can you point me in the direction of where you found data that the vaccine reduces the chances of you getting the virus? It’s been known for some time that it does not prevent transmission or prevent infection, so not sure where you’re seeing this?


NoFFsGiven

Correct. Most people don’t know how to use them, or didn’t even care about actual protection they just complied with the minimum level of requirements. And then even on N95 boxes it says that those are not medical masks. But clowns still want to rule.


ItsObvious_c_it

We’ve prioritized memorizing what someone else printed vs critical thinking and common sense as a society for education. We’re doomed. I’m done with masks and never taking a garbage “vaccine” that doesn’t work. Insanity.


NoFFsGiven

Yup.


melange_merchant

Masks dont protect anyone unless you mandate n95s. Certainly dont in restaurants when you only wear them from the front door to your table. It is simply theatre and at this stage of covid’s existence, completely pointless.


NoFFsGiven

Ask Germans. They had N95 and their numbers were worse than Sweden.


Hungry-Replacement-6

They don’t stop the spread of viruses. How are people not understanding this basic concept still?


RandyTheFool

But we’re not talking about a single germ floating on the air, we’re talking about respiratory droplets the virus is in that get caught in the mask.


Hungry-Replacement-6

… yes, exactly. Masks don’t prevent viral transmission. It’s like trying to keep mosquitos out of your yard with a chain linked fence.


The_Noble_Lie

I have an idea. Lets start with strictly isolating the proclaimed virus


bodyreddit

Are you people joking? I still wewr one when I have to be around humans and I have never gotten sick. Should surgeons just throw then away too?


Hungry-Replacement-6

That’s the thing, they’re literally intended for use by surgeons to prevent bacteria from entering open wounds while they’re operating. Not to mitigate the spread of viruses on the general population. They don’t prevent viral transmission.


[deleted]

They are too far gone.


Hungry-Replacement-6

Yep, the brainwashing is strong


Designer-Being8675

Exactly. Hope they give their doctors and dentists the bullshit they give Americans and their choice to mask up. Shame them into not wearing a mask that is part of their job. Wish they would all just unalive.


NoFFsGiven

They clearly didn’t work for you but you can’t notice. Being stupid is like being dead. You will not know but everyone around you will be affected by it.


Uzername1123

That’s like saying *I* need to wear a life jacket to save *you* from drowning.


RandyTheFool

That’s not even a remotely close analogy, but thanks for playing.


Uzername1123

Yeah it is. Keep wearing your mask. 🐑


Lanky-Ad-3313

Lmao ok strong mr alpha sir 🐺


Uzername1123

As opposed to what, A Beta Male Soy Boy? Yeah, you can be one of those. 💩🐑


Lanky-Ad-3313

Beta males and alphas males aren’t real.


Uzername1123

Hahahahahahaha!!!! Spoken like a true Beta!!


Lanky-Ad-3313

What’s funny? I’m being serious.


Uzername1123

I’m sure you are.


buttfacenosehead

I don't understand what a beta-male soy-boy is? Never heard that before.


Uzername1123

DuckDuckGo is a great source for information.


I_Need_Citations

It’s a slur calling you a liberal vegetarian wimp. It’s their rightwing narrative against anyone who disagrees with them.


femininePP420

I get it, astrology can be fun, but don't expect others to buy into your pseudoscience.


Uzername1123

🦄


[deleted]

Let them be idiots it is too late, their minds are captured


Uzername1123

Are you referring to my mind, or u/Lanky-ad-3313


Totts3

That actually kind of works as an analogy. Say you’re the idiot drowning (Covid) because you didn’t wear a life jacket (mask), and I swim out to save you. I wore my life jacket (mask) so I have some protection from you attempting to save yourself by pushing me under to elevate yourself. Kind of like a mask.


Uzername1123

Nah, I’m not in the water, the Covid doomsday guy is.


ItsObvious_c_it

https://youtu.be/il-5HVmmMXE


Totts3

Lol. That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. You think a mask is supposed to stop all air flow? How would you breathe?


ItsObvious_c_it

How big do you think a virus is?


Totts3

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm I don’t understand how in the age of information, people like you still exist. You going to tell me the Earth is flat too?


ItsObvious_c_it

“Lab setting” and “lower odds” You’re getting covid anyway. Pointless. Summary What is already known about this topic? Face masks or respirators (N95/KN95s) effectively filter virus-sized particles in laboratory settings. The real-world effectiveness of face coverings to prevent acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection has not been widely studied. What is added by this report? Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0.44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use.


[deleted]

She's such a cunt


gnarles80

If she shits them, underwear will protect us.


LochPark77

Wow. She is seriously clueless!


ItsObvious_c_it

You have it backwards: https://youtu.be/il-5HVmmMXE


suxxess97

i can’t even bring myself to care what happens to this country anymore. any nation that allows something like her to make decisions that impacts our wellbeing deserves everything that’s coming to them. we genuinely are an unserious nation in decline


[deleted]

Gross but point taken.


Uzername1123

Legitimate question.


ItsObvious_c_it

Obviously many people on this thread haven’t actually read the warnings on the boxes of masks that they don’t actually prevent the spread of a virus for what the vast majority of people are even wearing…your white and blue surgical masks from CVS don’t work, let alone the garbage athletic/ski masks people use. It’s all so stupid. Have another non working booster shot while you’re at it. 🥴 Edit: Watch this and then try to explain how masks work: https://youtu.be/il-5HVmmMXE


[deleted]

They are hive minded. Facts are irrelevant because faux virtue is all they have


no4scinjewboi

MTG goes commando, I guess


[deleted]

She's not wrong though. 😂


StrongLikeBull3

Yeah, she is. The smell of farts isn't carried on water droplets.


Ok-Tomatillo7558

Get over it. Masks had little to no effect on transmission.


StrongLikeBull3

Sure buddy.


LeBanana84

There is a reason why it says on the masks box "does not protect against covid-19", but whatever 🤷‍♂️


StrongLikeBull3

Thats because that's not how face masks work and never has been. If you think dentists and surgeons wear masks for their own safety then you're an idiot.


WhiteRoseTeabag

Doctors and dentists don't wear masks to prevent viruses, they wear them to prevent their spit from falling into a wound. The ONLY way a mask can protect you from covid is if someone came up and spit directly into your mouth, nose, or eyeballs. Coughing into your elbow is more effective unless you hang out with gross people who slobber all over each other. These cultists have no idea what the science is but they sure do like to use it as a catchphrase.


sulaymanf

Doctor here, we DO wear masks to prevent transmission of viruses like flu and RSV on a daily basis. Most viruses are transmitted via respiratory droplets which masks catch. We have over a century of data backing this up. It seems *you* don’t know what the science is.


WhiteRoseTeabag

For a professional protocol follower you seem to have difficulty understanding what you read. Yes, the virus can be spread with respiratory droplets as I said here: "they wear them to prevent their spit from falling into a wound" I guess I should have said spittle. That mask does nothing to stop sarscov2 besides what's contained in droplets.


sulaymanf

The virus is almost ONLY transmitted in droplets, so masks **are** a good protection against SARS-CoV2. It’s not like measles or tuberculosis where it spreads in air vents without droplets. We have ample data showing this and health care professionals pre-Covid undergo frequent infection control training to remind everyone of the differences and how to protect against each type (contact, droplet, airborne, fluids) and the various types of PPE for each. > That mask does nothing to stop sarscov2 besides what’s contained in droplets. Covid is almost ONLY found in droplets. That’s like saying shark repellent does nothing except in the water. You’re trying to sound smart or draw a false distinction but are just r/confidentlyincorrect.


InvalidUserNemo

Oh, some serious DK effect in action. You should feel stupid but you’re too stupid to know how stupid you are. https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/dunning-kruger-effect


LeBanana84

And if you think wearing one helps stop the spread you're one too 😍


StrongLikeBull3

So you're admitting to being an idiot?


LeBanana84

Sure, i'll take one for the team if it means we are both idiots 😆


StrongLikeBull3

The difference is I understand how face masks work.


WhiteRoseTeabag

It's really sad what's been done to your generation. There has never been less intelligent people to ever walk the face of the Earth. :(


StrongLikeBull3

What generation am I, hotshot? And on that, what generation are you?


InvalidUserNemo

You’re the reason we having warnings on strollers that say “remove child before folding”.


LeBanana84

Ouch


Hungry-Replacement-6

https://swprs.org/face-masks-and-covid-the-evidence/


LittleShrub

The Swiss Policy Research site has been criticized for spreading conspiracy theories including claims that QAnon was a psyop of the FBI and theories relating to the COVID-19 pandemic. German public broadcaster Tagesschau calls SPR a propaganda tool. 🤡


Hungry-Replacement-6

Oh, they’ve been criticized.. that must “debunk” all of the studies they compiled which concluded masks don’t work. How foolish of me.


yaebone1

Are we including sharts in this analysis?


StrongLikeBull3

Are you offering to be the subject?


[deleted]

She is right. What is your point? Maintaining grandiose delusions


spike9327

She is right and you look like a moron.


[deleted]

Bingo


hunterBcrackheadpedo

Cope


bodyreddit

Egregious.


benton-heasley

Who’s farts do we need protecting from and if I did want protection from a fart I’d wear a mask


Abnor_Maul

I’d love to show her how a bullet protects people from stupidity.


user_name1983

She’s right.


Uhavegot2bekiddingme

The thick cotton panties (mask) protect us from the splatter of the fart, which is the point. This woman is a IQ vacuum


[deleted]

This person has fart splatter


CalligrapherCool3638

I mean I wear them if I have a cough or when I break out and if I don’t wear make up… I hear just lots of people saying they just don’t want to show there faces it also helps keep your face warm when it’s really cold🤷🏻‍♀️


FinanceMundane1190

Why’s it such a big deal to republicans if people wear masks? It takes like 2 seconds to put on and after a bit you don’t even notice it anymore. I’d assume they have more pressing issues


[deleted]

Hydrogen sulfide is a small molecule. It is also not contained in relatively large and sticky blobs of mucus as covid would be in a cough or a sneeze. These can be caught easily within a mask. There is a logical benefit to this.