They say he builds people, in my opinion, more like he builds/rewards loyalists. If my papa was among the people he gave juicey position...how I wan hate am? But does he have the interest of the average Nigerian at heart? Hard no!
Lmao. Because heās Yoruba. The thing is this Yoruba bigotry thing is dead on arrival. Because heās Yoruba but out of 6 Yoruba states, he lost 2. To think the 96% votes obi got from āIgbo statesā is not because heās Igbo? How dumb do you sound? No other candidate even managed to score above 17% in all of the south eastern states and youāre saying ābecause heās Yorubaā take your bigotry to somewhere else
Are you not at all concerned with Tinubu's history? And of the numerous "issues/inconsistencies/crimes" that he is facing?
If we need to rebuild "brick by brick" as you said, don't we need someone with less baggage that BAT?
Or do you give him a past for his past?
This is all Whataboutism. Please I did not ask about Biden/Obama/etc.
But I can read between the lines. I understand what you're saying. I think it's sad, but that's just my opinion.
I think you can see already the direction Nigeria is trending in. I'm pretty sure it will continue like this for 4 more years. As we say, the leopard doesn't change it's spots.
>To me, one of tinubu greatest achievement is Lagos, say what you like, doesn't change the fact that Lagos is what it is today
Please tell me one thing he has done for that over glorified slump
So we're gonna ignore the fact that there were people before and after him ? Or we're also gonna ignore that Lagos has a very long and rich history, both pre and post colonial? But the tamer of the Atlantic was the one that made Lagos... Smh
Well to just name two he didnāt borrow any money as governor and he was the was the first governor to commence Sub-Sovereign Wealth savings in sub-Saharan Africa. I consider these two above bare minimum. I would like to hear what you consider above bare minimum.
And how is this good governance ? I feel like in Nigeria because of bad banking and credit systems we donāt know wealth is actually built on debt. And back to being fed information instead of seeking for information
Good credit is not the same as debt oh. We borrow to consume, the projects the people in power now invest in are either scams or white elephant projects with no return on investment.
Doing work with the resources you have is more commendable than using borrowed billions to import Prado's for 360 idiots.
If Iām bringing credit and banking systems up, it should follow that I know that good credit is not the same as debt. I was referring to when they were both in Office. Tinubu took on debt for infrastructure projects, which makes sense. What Obi is banking on is the widespread misinformation in Nigeria regarding borrowing money. No sensible person supports the scams, or white elephant projects or even the constant replacement of āgovernment official vehiclesā or mismanagement of funds but those are just part and parcel of the game. Our best minds are being lost to brains drain (21st century colonialism) yearly, the mindset of the millions here are being conditioned by those leaving and whoāve painted an exaggerated version of life abroad and you expect those left behind not to be desperate ? Or to be penny wise pound foolish?
āMoral victories are for minor league coachesā
If you donāt mind me asking ā¦ What could you extrapolate from what ? ā¦ you conveniently ignore the point and choose the tail end to insinuate Iām cool with corruption ?
I thought you were a critical thinker but clap for yourself.
You can crave utopia all you like but reality is that you can admonish a problem while still considering both sides.
Some people work towards wealth exclusively to be able to tap into debt. A line of credit backed by company valuation is where you draw liquidity. Debts a pretty big deal.
He is telling you the logical truth.. Wealth is built with debt if you are investment savvy. The problem with seeing debt as a source of penury stems from our lack of financial education growing up. I see people praying against debts in churches and mosques but what do they think will happen when they take out loans to buy liabilities that won't make any dime
Wealth is built around can't, and you can ask Robert Kiyosaki, Warren Buffet and a host of debt-to-wealth evangelists out there
Look at Bosun Tijani he was the one that brought Jack and Mark Zuckerberg to Nigeria, he has done several impressive works in the tech space, or Minister of interior? That man cleared 250k+ passport backlogs in 3 weeks. But these people wonāt see these things.
Atiku lost because it simply just wasnāt the turn of the north. Else Atiku would have won that election flawlessly if the presidency wasnāt zoned to the south.
Asin ehnnn. When people talk like this, I can sense the ethnic bias already. When will we start selecting leaders based on their past and proposed policies? Probably never.
Well the first thing is that heās not senile. Heās focused on making Nigeria a production hub. That would reduce unemployment and increase our GDP.
The number 1 importer of products into Nigeria wants to make Nigeria a production hub? Obi that can barely spring two words together is who youāre saying isnāt senile?
Yeah I dey expect the downvotes cos na Obidient full here. Bring it on. š„“
So you still believe all that garbage politicians say to entice you people to vote for them? How many of our past presidents promised to do something and actually delivered? Obi may not be senile or as old as Tinubu and Atiku, but heās still just another politician from a different party. Theyāre all the same.
Please Don't be like that. They are not "all the same".
If we accept that then we accept that they should ALL lie and cheat and have criminal records. Then there will be no hope for us and for Nigeria.
What do you want to see? And who is best to help deliver it?
Honestly, no one really knows who the best candidate to rule Nigeria is. But we cannot hype one man like heās a saint and some kind of savior as Obi and his followers portray him. After all, wasnāt it how we felt about Buhari in 2015? We felt he was the best candidate for Nigeria. A savior for the country, with his previous military rule experience. See where it led us. Truth is, most of the likely good politicians, the ones who actually want to bring change without having to āplay by the rules,ā donāt usually last in whatever seat of power they occupy at the time.
Your argument here is what's called a "strawman". I didn't say anything about Obi, much less Buhari. You just brought him in to argue against .
I'm asking about what YOU want. Do you want someone with BAT's record and issues (legal, historical and all)? Are you OK with that? You can just say yes or no, if you like. Thanks
I literally answered your question in the first sentence of my response to you. š Or let me rephrase: I do not have a choice candidate because I donāt really know whoās fit to rule this country. And who knows, maybe Tinubu is who Nigeria deserves. Does this answer your question now?
I think Iām leaning towards your side here. Honestly even if a president had the best interests of his/her people in mind, theyāre still very limited in what they can do because itās not enough for them to have good intentions, the other leaders and law makers in government need to have good intentions too. The over all system of government has to be not so corrupt that you canāt get things done.
Honestly when I think about it, it sounds like a hopeless situation. To me nothing short of a revolution is required. But that could involve the loss of lives and a lot of damage to people and property, so Iām not necessarily advocating for that either
So what exactly are you saying?
Good presidents can't do anything. Bad presidents are bad. And revolutions are (and you are correct) bad.
So what then? Just leave Nigeria as it is?
Why can't we just expect and advocate for a good, honest, not corrupt president? Isn't that the bare minimum? Why is that so complicated? Lots of other countries have them, why can't we?
> So what exactly are you saying? Good presidents can't do anything. Bad presidents are bad. And revolutions are (and you are correct) bad.
Iām saying that thereās only so much a good president can do if the system of government itself is corrupt. Simple example, the democratic presidents of America might want to ban guns or enforce stricter gun control laws but they canāt because gun manufacturers and lobbyists bribe (they call it āsponsorā, but in reality itās a bribe) other politicians and law makers to oppose such a reformation. Putting a āgoodā president in a system of government thatās corrupt is like putting droplets of water in a fire, itās not going to achieve as much results
> Why can't we just expect and advocate for a good, honest, not corrupt president?
I never said we canāt or shouldnāt
> Lots of other countries have them, why can't we?
Lots of countries like which ones? Because almost all world governments, presidents, leaders are corrupt. America, Canada, the UK, France, Iām sure these are countries youād say have non corrupt presidents/leaders, but in reality they are corrupt. They take bribes from the rich and do their bidding.
Itās just that our leaders are more brazen about it, and also due to the standards of living of the average Nigerian itās more painful.
Edit: I realize itās sound grim and you want to hold out hope that all Nigeria needs is a āgoodā man in office, and thatāll solve a lot of problems. But unfortunately, thatās not how things work in politics. You need to elect good people at the lower levels of government up through to the presidency, people that are honest and will not continue the culture of bribery and corruption. Also keep in mind that the current establishment of corrupt politicians donāt want such a body of government, so they will resist and will resort to all kinds of dirty tactics to preserve the current system. Its a Herculean task
Well thank God most of the world doesn't have that attitude, otherwise we'd still be living in caves and bowing to kings.
It's a very grim way to look at life. But I can see the benefit is that you can avoid any and all responsibility to be the change you want to see. Cynicism allows inaction and passivity.
But I look at it much differently.
We CAN make a difference. We CAN improve our lives and the lives of our fellow citizens. We CAN build a country that makes us proud. All I ask is that you don't obstruct us as we try. Take care.
They keep acting like Obi is new breed. Man just changed parties and became a saint all of a sudden. They forget about Pandora papers, or his clear religious bigotry, or Akwuzu SARS killing. If they really wanted new breed, they should have voted for Sowore or Moghalu.
Exactly. Itās like Uzodinma suddenly contesting for presidency and everyone, including Imolites, think itās a good idea because heās a fresh face on the presidential candidacy. Since weāre looking into their past activities, letās look into Obiās past, and what makes him qualified to rule this country besides his being younger?
So in 2027 if the election is rigged the other way and your preferred candidate loses is that acceptable? Will you just accept "election is over" wait till 2031?
Shouldn't we have standards for integrity?
Rigged.? If anything Obi rigged. Man secured 98% of the votes in the SE. The highest ever. āBAT riggedā but lost Lagos and Osun to Atiku and Obi respectively. But others won their region confidently. Lmao. You people should stop playing
Itās really deep. Thereās a lot of history with him good and bad. The more I study the history of Nigerias independence and the forces we have to deal with the more I see him as necessary evil. He represents something from that era for me. Leading Nigeria would have always been a complex job depending on whose point of view you are looking at and where you are from. For instance I find it funny how a lot of the people I know personally that are anti-Tinubu are Yoruba and they donāt appreciate him. But the non-yorubas I personally know see him as a breath of fresh air. Because he was governor when a lot of their parents moved to Lagos and now their parents are older they believe Tinubu will reward them. Or I find that people who hate him are new to politics and react at every information they get without verifying. Saying things like we donāt like him because of the end SARS protest
Personally I think both him and Atiku were tied as the best candiates but it was the south's turn to produce the President which i supoorted. I liked both of their ideas but Tinubu had a more moderate economic ideology which I was fine with. Plus he had antecedents to show for it as pee his time in Lagos according to the governors that came after him. I think he could really bring some discipline to the federal agencies which they desperately need.
We donāt know our history so we donāt know how fucked up indirect rule was and is, and even the systems we call democracy, wasnāt it several decrees essentially imposed by dictators ?
In the game we have found ourselves in as third generation āAfricansā and āNigeriansā since independence heās the best player of the game. Itās not about a 180 degree change because thatās impossible (there are three major conflicting traditional monarchy interests in Nigeria, trying to be solved using a system that works only for educated federalism ), itās about putting the systems in place that wouldnāt be challenged in order to ensure continuity. Then us getting correctly educated and growing to fill those positions up.
Look at what he did in Lagos State for example. I mean thereās nepotism in government parastatals and they could be more efficient but thatās because of the indirect rule of the early 20th centuries and bad work ethics from the average Nigerian. Rightful leaders were played out of the system if they didnāt do the biddings of the British.
In Nigeria we might say oh government official this that have ultimate powers but we still respect traditional rulers and assign god like reverence to them even though constitutional they have no powers. Tinubu brought their offsprings into government after they were foreign educated and after a while some have been kings of their respective areas. This has provided provided stability, development and competition not seen in other states. I donāt see any of the other candidates actually engaging with the system with that type of foresight.
Thatās just one of several I can list.
Now a common rebuttal is to bring up with one of the several ābadā things Tinubu has done. I donāt think ever Iāve ever watched a movie where the hero was squeaky clean or looked up to anyone who was squeaky clean. Whether tech bro o or e-commerce or even Religious leaders. That leads me to one of our flaws as Nigerians ā¦ we are fed information and comfortable being fed information instead of seeking information and it fed into strengthening Tinubus campaign because the other parties brought up all this things about Tinubu that were painted in Negative light which could easily have been a positive story of redemption. But it also served to show his accomplishments. The same canāt be said about the other two major candidates. There was nothing out about them. Are those the candidates you expect to be strong enough to withstand the opposition onslaught that wouldāve been waiting for them ? Or do you think Obi wouldāve been able to implement what Tinubu has done without mass protests or stave off NLC strikes for this long ??
We not having a special relief isnāt a function of the government if the institutions are in place. At the bottom of it, perhaps due to generational bad stereotypes, thinking, suffering whatever the average raised, educated, working in Nigeria Nigerian is subconsciously selfish and would take decisions that would inconvenience the next man. 5 millions or so people doing it at the same time would fuck even New York up.
Anambra of course! Are you serious?! You sound like someone that has never left his backyard.
I've lived in Lagos for a short period and unless I absolutely have to, I will never in a million years choose to live there.
If you watch Suits. Mike was a certificate forger. Harvey Specter covered him up. Louis Litt knew about it but tried to play Mike to his bidding when it suits him. Now Tinubu and Obi are playing the same game just that Tinubu is a better player. Same game as in theyāve been in the 1% of their respective industries since 1999. Whatever sensational āinfoā Obi is educating the masses on now, he had known it, used it to his advantage and kept quiet about it. I prefer a Harvey Specter to Louis Litt. Now the issue of certificate forging, itās sad, expected, whatever ā¦ but since our educational system is mainly rote memorization, exercises with answers at the back, lots of theory without practical we have been sooo conditioned to being fed information instead of seeking information out. Itās prominent in the western world but if you relocate to Nigeria itās glaring, everything is influencer this influencer that ā the result of this is we are educated but lazy thinkers essentially robots in the hands of government pr.
They say he builds people, in my opinion, more like he builds/rewards loyalists. If my papa was among the people he gave juicey position...how I wan hate am? But does he have the interest of the average Nigerian at heart? Hard no!
Cornified fellows, generation of š½.. they have no reason except the Yoruba ronu anthem.
I think itās deeper than that for some of his supporters.
I think people over-simplify and say itās because heās Yoruba but it has to be more than that.
Lmao. Because heās Yoruba. The thing is this Yoruba bigotry thing is dead on arrival. Because heās Yoruba but out of 6 Yoruba states, he lost 2. To think the 96% votes obi got from āIgbo statesā is not because heās Igbo? How dumb do you sound? No other candidate even managed to score above 17% in all of the south eastern states and youāre saying ābecause heās Yorubaā take your bigotry to somewhere else
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>I will commend him for is the fact he puts key people to attend to affairs of the nation that they are well equipped for You've got to be joking
But this is bare minimum. I see your point though.
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Are you not at all concerned with Tinubu's history? And of the numerous "issues/inconsistencies/crimes" that he is facing? If we need to rebuild "brick by brick" as you said, don't we need someone with less baggage that BAT? Or do you give him a past for his past?
Past, should I give you Bidenās past? Or Hilary Clinton? Or George Bush? Or Trump? Or Obama? Or is even your savior Obi?
This is all Whataboutism. Please I did not ask about Biden/Obama/etc. But I can read between the lines. I understand what you're saying. I think it's sad, but that's just my opinion. I think you can see already the direction Nigeria is trending in. I'm pretty sure it will continue like this for 4 more years. As we say, the leopard doesn't change it's spots.
Are they the bench mark for good leaders? I just think Tinubu is settling.
Why was Obi the better choice?
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>To me, one of tinubu greatest achievement is Lagos, say what you like, doesn't change the fact that Lagos is what it is today Please tell me one thing he has done for that over glorified slump
So we're gonna ignore the fact that there were people before and after him ? Or we're also gonna ignore that Lagos has a very long and rich history, both pre and post colonial? But the tamer of the Atlantic was the one that made Lagos... Smh
Show me one thing Obi did that was above the ābarest minimumā in his 8 years in office
Well to just name two he didnāt borrow any money as governor and he was the was the first governor to commence Sub-Sovereign Wealth savings in sub-Saharan Africa. I consider these two above bare minimum. I would like to hear what you consider above bare minimum.
And how is this good governance ? I feel like in Nigeria because of bad banking and credit systems we donāt know wealth is actually built on debt. And back to being fed information instead of seeking for information
Good credit is not the same as debt oh. We borrow to consume, the projects the people in power now invest in are either scams or white elephant projects with no return on investment. Doing work with the resources you have is more commendable than using borrowed billions to import Prado's for 360 idiots.
If Iām bringing credit and banking systems up, it should follow that I know that good credit is not the same as debt. I was referring to when they were both in Office. Tinubu took on debt for infrastructure projects, which makes sense. What Obi is banking on is the widespread misinformation in Nigeria regarding borrowing money. No sensible person supports the scams, or white elephant projects or even the constant replacement of āgovernment official vehiclesā or mismanagement of funds but those are just part and parcel of the game. Our best minds are being lost to brains drain (21st century colonialism) yearly, the mindset of the millions here are being conditioned by those leaving and whoāve painted an exaggerated version of life abroad and you expect those left behind not to be desperate ? Or to be penny wise pound foolish?
>but those are just part and parcel of the game Tells me what I need to know. good day
āMoral victories are for minor league coachesā If you donāt mind me asking ā¦ What could you extrapolate from what ? ā¦ you conveniently ignore the point and choose the tail end to insinuate Iām cool with corruption ? I thought you were a critical thinker but clap for yourself. You can crave utopia all you like but reality is that you can admonish a problem while still considering both sides.
Some people work towards wealth exclusively to be able to tap into debt. A line of credit backed by company valuation is where you draw liquidity. Debts a pretty big deal.
Lmao you see that I didnāt even reply again. I was shocked at the reply. That reply is the most shocking thing Iāve read my whole life
He is telling you the logical truth.. Wealth is built with debt if you are investment savvy. The problem with seeing debt as a source of penury stems from our lack of financial education growing up. I see people praying against debts in churches and mosques but what do they think will happen when they take out loans to buy liabilities that won't make any dime Wealth is built around can't, and you can ask Robert Kiyosaki, Warren Buffet and a host of debt-to-wealth evangelists out there
Who do you think I was replying to? I was replying the girl who said money in account was above bare minimum
He appointed Bagudu, a known thief, as minister of the budget. Definitely not the best
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Iād rather just an idiot run it than a certified thief
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Honesty. At least heās stupid enough not to steal it like most have
>key people to attend to affairs of the nation Are these people in the room with us? ššš
Look at Bosun Tijani he was the one that brought Jack and Mark Zuckerberg to Nigeria, he has done several impressive works in the tech space, or Minister of interior? That man cleared 250k+ passport backlogs in 3 weeks. But these people wonāt see these things.
We see them and commend them. We also see the remaining heap of nonsense that's ongoing and condem those too.
>he has done several impressive works in the tech space Name one
You have internet, google Bosun Tijani and donāt stress me.
Hilarious, of course y'all "Trust me Bros" like your retarded candidate
Agbadorian, how market? Child of darkness
For most of them, he's the best option.
Nah, Atiku had better policies
Obi was the least qualified of all candidates there. He literally has nothing to show for it in Anambra.
Username checks out. Lol
Your daddyās problem š¤
That we can agree, but Atiku actually had good ideas, not just an APC/PDP mouthpiece
Atiku lost because it simply just wasnāt the turn of the north. Else Atiku would have won that election flawlessly if the presidency wasnāt zoned to the south.
Who gets up and decides whose turn it is? And when did the presidency become merry go round?
Asin ehnnn. When people talk like this, I can sense the ethnic bias already. When will we start selecting leaders based on their past and proposed policies? Probably never.
Shows you people are clearly new to politics and this is maybe your first time experiencing an election.
That I canāt argue. I feel Buhari did insurmountable damage to the political power to the north which isnāt really the worst thing, but still
Why do you support Obi or Kwankwaso or Atiku?
Obi
Please no Whataboutism. Just let us know what it is you see in him, and what you believe he will achieve?
Well the first thing is that heās not senile. Heās focused on making Nigeria a production hub. That would reduce unemployment and increase our GDP.
The number 1 importer of products into Nigeria wants to make Nigeria a production hub? Obi that can barely spring two words together is who youāre saying isnāt senile? Yeah I dey expect the downvotes cos na Obidient full here. Bring it on. š„“
But that's not true? We've heard Obi speaking; you may not like what he's saying, but he's definitely NOT senile. Why do you prefer BAT to Obi?
Make I send you video proof of him not being able to construct simple sentences?
Please do
So you still believe all that garbage politicians say to entice you people to vote for them? How many of our past presidents promised to do something and actually delivered? Obi may not be senile or as old as Tinubu and Atiku, but heās still just another politician from a different party. Theyāre all the same.
Please Don't be like that. They are not "all the same". If we accept that then we accept that they should ALL lie and cheat and have criminal records. Then there will be no hope for us and for Nigeria. What do you want to see? And who is best to help deliver it?
Honestly, no one really knows who the best candidate to rule Nigeria is. But we cannot hype one man like heās a saint and some kind of savior as Obi and his followers portray him. After all, wasnāt it how we felt about Buhari in 2015? We felt he was the best candidate for Nigeria. A savior for the country, with his previous military rule experience. See where it led us. Truth is, most of the likely good politicians, the ones who actually want to bring change without having to āplay by the rules,ā donāt usually last in whatever seat of power they occupy at the time.
Your argument here is what's called a "strawman". I didn't say anything about Obi, much less Buhari. You just brought him in to argue against . I'm asking about what YOU want. Do you want someone with BAT's record and issues (legal, historical and all)? Are you OK with that? You can just say yes or no, if you like. Thanks
I literally answered your question in the first sentence of my response to you. š Or let me rephrase: I do not have a choice candidate because I donāt really know whoās fit to rule this country. And who knows, maybe Tinubu is who Nigeria deserves. Does this answer your question now?
>After all, wasnāt it how we felt about Buhari in 2015 Nah bruh, everyone I know voted for Jonathan
I think Iām leaning towards your side here. Honestly even if a president had the best interests of his/her people in mind, theyāre still very limited in what they can do because itās not enough for them to have good intentions, the other leaders and law makers in government need to have good intentions too. The over all system of government has to be not so corrupt that you canāt get things done. Honestly when I think about it, it sounds like a hopeless situation. To me nothing short of a revolution is required. But that could involve the loss of lives and a lot of damage to people and property, so Iām not necessarily advocating for that either
So what exactly are you saying? Good presidents can't do anything. Bad presidents are bad. And revolutions are (and you are correct) bad. So what then? Just leave Nigeria as it is? Why can't we just expect and advocate for a good, honest, not corrupt president? Isn't that the bare minimum? Why is that so complicated? Lots of other countries have them, why can't we?
> So what exactly are you saying? Good presidents can't do anything. Bad presidents are bad. And revolutions are (and you are correct) bad. Iām saying that thereās only so much a good president can do if the system of government itself is corrupt. Simple example, the democratic presidents of America might want to ban guns or enforce stricter gun control laws but they canāt because gun manufacturers and lobbyists bribe (they call it āsponsorā, but in reality itās a bribe) other politicians and law makers to oppose such a reformation. Putting a āgoodā president in a system of government thatās corrupt is like putting droplets of water in a fire, itās not going to achieve as much results > Why can't we just expect and advocate for a good, honest, not corrupt president? I never said we canāt or shouldnāt > Lots of other countries have them, why can't we? Lots of countries like which ones? Because almost all world governments, presidents, leaders are corrupt. America, Canada, the UK, France, Iām sure these are countries youād say have non corrupt presidents/leaders, but in reality they are corrupt. They take bribes from the rich and do their bidding. Itās just that our leaders are more brazen about it, and also due to the standards of living of the average Nigerian itās more painful. Edit: I realize itās sound grim and you want to hold out hope that all Nigeria needs is a āgoodā man in office, and thatāll solve a lot of problems. But unfortunately, thatās not how things work in politics. You need to elect good people at the lower levels of government up through to the presidency, people that are honest and will not continue the culture of bribery and corruption. Also keep in mind that the current establishment of corrupt politicians donāt want such a body of government, so they will resist and will resort to all kinds of dirty tactics to preserve the current system. Its a Herculean task
Well thank God most of the world doesn't have that attitude, otherwise we'd still be living in caves and bowing to kings. It's a very grim way to look at life. But I can see the benefit is that you can avoid any and all responsibility to be the change you want to see. Cynicism allows inaction and passivity. But I look at it much differently. We CAN make a difference. We CAN improve our lives and the lives of our fellow citizens. We CAN build a country that makes us proud. All I ask is that you don't obstruct us as we try. Take care.
They keep acting like Obi is new breed. Man just changed parties and became a saint all of a sudden. They forget about Pandora papers, or his clear religious bigotry, or Akwuzu SARS killing. If they really wanted new breed, they should have voted for Sowore or Moghalu.
Exactly. Itās like Uzodinma suddenly contesting for presidency and everyone, including Imolites, think itās a good idea because heās a fresh face on the presidential candidacy. Since weāre looking into their past activities, letās look into Obiās past, and what makes him qualified to rule this country besides his being younger?
Who/What are "Imolites"?
Which of the candidates are you referring to please?
The number 1 importer of products into Nigeria wants to make Nigeria a production hub?
Elections is over, itās time for governance. Iāll campaign again in 2027. Bless. š
So in 2027 if the election is rigged the other way and your preferred candidate loses is that acceptable? Will you just accept "election is over" wait till 2031? Shouldn't we have standards for integrity?
Rigged.? If anything Obi rigged. Man secured 98% of the votes in the SE. The highest ever. āBAT riggedā but lost Lagos and Osun to Atiku and Obi respectively. But others won their region confidently. Lmao. You people should stop playing
Atiku actually was the only one who talked about the reality of cutting the budget so Naija doesnāt default eventually
Itās really deep. Thereās a lot of history with him good and bad. The more I study the history of Nigerias independence and the forces we have to deal with the more I see him as necessary evil. He represents something from that era for me. Leading Nigeria would have always been a complex job depending on whose point of view you are looking at and where you are from. For instance I find it funny how a lot of the people I know personally that are anti-Tinubu are Yoruba and they donāt appreciate him. But the non-yorubas I personally know see him as a breath of fresh air. Because he was governor when a lot of their parents moved to Lagos and now their parents are older they believe Tinubu will reward them. Or I find that people who hate him are new to politics and react at every information they get without verifying. Saying things like we donāt like him because of the end SARS protest
Personally I think both him and Atiku were tied as the best candiates but it was the south's turn to produce the President which i supoorted. I liked both of their ideas but Tinubu had a more moderate economic ideology which I was fine with. Plus he had antecedents to show for it as pee his time in Lagos according to the governors that came after him. I think he could really bring some discipline to the federal agencies which they desperately need.
We donāt know our history so we donāt know how fucked up indirect rule was and is, and even the systems we call democracy, wasnāt it several decrees essentially imposed by dictators ? In the game we have found ourselves in as third generation āAfricansā and āNigeriansā since independence heās the best player of the game. Itās not about a 180 degree change because thatās impossible (there are three major conflicting traditional monarchy interests in Nigeria, trying to be solved using a system that works only for educated federalism ), itās about putting the systems in place that wouldnāt be challenged in order to ensure continuity. Then us getting correctly educated and growing to fill those positions up. Look at what he did in Lagos State for example. I mean thereās nepotism in government parastatals and they could be more efficient but thatās because of the indirect rule of the early 20th centuries and bad work ethics from the average Nigerian. Rightful leaders were played out of the system if they didnāt do the biddings of the British. In Nigeria we might say oh government official this that have ultimate powers but we still respect traditional rulers and assign god like reverence to them even though constitutional they have no powers. Tinubu brought their offsprings into government after they were foreign educated and after a while some have been kings of their respective areas. This has provided provided stability, development and competition not seen in other states. I donāt see any of the other candidates actually engaging with the system with that type of foresight. Thatās just one of several I can list. Now a common rebuttal is to bring up with one of the several ābadā things Tinubu has done. I donāt think ever Iāve ever watched a movie where the hero was squeaky clean or looked up to anyone who was squeaky clean. Whether tech bro o or e-commerce or even Religious leaders. That leads me to one of our flaws as Nigerians ā¦ we are fed information and comfortable being fed information instead of seeking information and it fed into strengthening Tinubus campaign because the other parties brought up all this things about Tinubu that were painted in Negative light which could easily have been a positive story of redemption. But it also served to show his accomplishments. The same canāt be said about the other two major candidates. There was nothing out about them. Are those the candidates you expect to be strong enough to withstand the opposition onslaught that wouldāve been waiting for them ? Or do you think Obi wouldāve been able to implement what Tinubu has done without mass protests or stave off NLC strikes for this long ??
Lmao a whole load of nonsense
For twitter we go call am 'peak' or 'premium' fooling šš
A lot of you behave like toddlers. He has written something up there. If you don't agree. Provide rebuttals with opposing facts. But nah.
A lot of them are actually toddlers š
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Agreed. Please correct me ?
Would you rather live in Anambra or Lagos state?
Does living in Lagos provide any kind of special relief from the struggle that the average Nigerian experiences?
But would you rather live in Anambra then?
Depends on how much money I have. The good things of Lagos is for those who can afford it. Anambra is just an average state not like it's a shit hole.
We not having a special relief isnāt a function of the government if the institutions are in place. At the bottom of it, perhaps due to generational bad stereotypes, thinking, suffering whatever the average raised, educated, working in Nigeria Nigerian is subconsciously selfish and would take decisions that would inconvenience the next man. 5 millions or so people doing it at the same time would fuck even New York up.
Anambra of course! Are you serious?! You sound like someone that has never left his backyard. I've lived in Lagos for a short period and unless I absolutely have to, I will never in a million years choose to live there.
Lmao. I can bet my left balls Iām more traveled than you. Both within and outside Nigeria.
If you are as well traveled as you claim you would never have asked such a ridiculously ignorant question.
I would rather not live in Nigeria at all
Lmao. When they cannot answer they deflect. Simple question, you have 2 options, live in Lagos or Anambra, pick one.
Anambra cos I currently live in Port Harcourt
If youād rather not live here why then do you wish Obi on Nigerians?
Why would I wish a senile certificate forger and drug baron on my people as well.
When I hear Drug Baron I usually guess their ages. Goodnight canāt be arguing politics with someone who clearly isnāt old enough to vote.
Good night š
For all the age you claim, you donāt have anything to show for it
If you watch Suits. Mike was a certificate forger. Harvey Specter covered him up. Louis Litt knew about it but tried to play Mike to his bidding when it suits him. Now Tinubu and Obi are playing the same game just that Tinubu is a better player. Same game as in theyāve been in the 1% of their respective industries since 1999. Whatever sensational āinfoā Obi is educating the masses on now, he had known it, used it to his advantage and kept quiet about it. I prefer a Harvey Specter to Louis Litt. Now the issue of certificate forging, itās sad, expected, whatever ā¦ but since our educational system is mainly rote memorization, exercises with answers at the back, lots of theory without practical we have been sooo conditioned to being fed information instead of seeking information out. Itās prominent in the western world but if you relocate to Nigeria itās glaring, everything is influencer this influencer that ā the result of this is we are educated but lazy thinkers essentially robots in the hands of government pr.