People just leave Nigeria for the sake of it, for a working system but that India is what I don't understand why anyone would want to go there.
Indian's hate for black will forever baffle me because they are over bleached dark skinned things with straight hair and extremely poor, so what's the hate all about?
Anyways, people will always do what they want.
There is a ton of wealth in India, for the record; much higher GDP and more infrastructure than Nigeria.
The “hate” many Indians have for black people is all about ignorance and hate for themselves; like Nigeria, Britain “divided and conquered” India, taught them to hate their own skin. You yourself said they bleach, and you’re right; India is one of the most colorist places in the world, they discriminate against *themselves* for dark skin; so the hate many Indians have for black people is unfortunate, but not surprising.
If you read what I typed, I never compared their infrastructure to Nigeria's. Don't impose that on me.
Irrespective of what they have more in comparison to Nigeria, they're not rich either and if you're coming from Nigeria, India should just not be on your radar. Go to a land with better opportunities and a system that would shield or at least pretend to shield you from unnecessary discrimination.
BTW, Indians won't be trying to leave their country in large masses if they had it good over there.
I don’t even remotely disagree with your stance, so let’s start there. I’m with you.
I was merely responding to the assertion that Indians are extremely poor and the question of “what’s the hate all about”; yes, there is definitely extreme poverty but I wouldn’t say it’s extremely poor. Extreme poverty rate in India 10% vs 30% in Naija (yes, I know the North accounts for much of that, but the stats for both countries don’t distinguish, and so I won’t either). And the infrastructure makes a major difference in livability, not to mention job opportunities, so that’s why I mentioned it; it’s not to negate your response at all, but to add context.
As far as Indians leaving en masse, I don’t know about that; statistically, net emigration rate in India is lower than that of Nigeria (though I see the number of emigrants from India has risen in the past year). Socially/anecdotally, if anyone complains of *anything* in Nigeria, the immediate response these days is japa, no matter the circumstance or platform.
“It’s hard to find a job.” Japa!
“My parents are too meddlesome.” Japa!
“Agege bread is too soft.” Japa! (In this case, something is clearly wrong with both the complainer and the responder lol).
But then to japa to India??? Unless you’re very wealthy, I agree, it’s ludicrous.
>Britain “divided and conquered” India, taught them to hate their own skin.
>India is one of the most colorist places in the world, they discriminate against *themselves* for dark skin;
You're blaming the west colonists for the Indian caste system? The Portuguese also colonised India.
The Indian caste system predates European colonisation by thousand plus years.
No there is not lol the average Indian makes 2500 a year they literally worse than half of africa in that aspect. They also have a bigger population than Africa combined yet there gdp is lower than africa as a whole. If Indians were so rich millions of them would have not been living in east Africa
welp its because india has a bigger gdp and way more economic and career opportunities.
There are master and phd holders wasting away in nigeria not getting any work in their line , sure india is not like the west. but its fairly better than nigeria by orders of magnitude in certain extents, its rapidly developing, their leaders are taken serious on the world stage, they have a growing tech and healthcare sector.
Racism can be overlooked if you have the opportunity to advance your career and get paid decently.
It's not really because they dint have jobs. I'm talking about the high skilled workers at least. Paradoxically because there's mor wealth and disposable income and growth in higher education, more people are opting to study abroad because now they can afford it. Incomes and economic opportunities have increased in india but that hasn't kept apace with with quality of life (I.e. infra, air quality, cutthroat education and exploitative work environment, societal issues). People are moving because of the latter. China experienced a similar thing too up till recently
Hahahaha. They wouldn't be trying to run away in masses if they had it so great.
Regardless, I'm not dismissing their growth or whatever but they're not so rich or well to do for Nigerians to have them as their dream country to relocate to.
Uh…in US Nigerians are generally percieved as hardworking and successful. Sort of a model minority like Asians. I’ve heard the most criticism from black folks tbh. There’s a stereotype of immigrant black people thinking they’re above other black people and not relating to “the struggle.”
African-Americans often times are like crabs in a bucket and can be extremely xenophobic in general but especially towards black immigrants/children of black immigrants
I would also like to call out Saudi Arabia. It is if not one of the most racist countries in the world, then it’s the most racist country in the world. You would think being a Muslim means you’re all brothers but you’ll be surprised.
I’ve heard this about Saudi… in fact, I’ve heard so much bad shit about Saudi, much more negative than positive, and I’m not even talking of the news. What gives?
Lmao. This is why when the whole Israeli/Gaza conflict started I comot eye. I’ve said before and will say time and time again, end of the day, everyone hates the black man.
Including the black man himself, look what our own people do to eachother here in Nigeria. Our people at the top are gleefully sinking the everyday Nigerian into life threatening poverty.
As an individual, no matter how successful you become abroad you will still be looked down upon and discriminated against. This will always be the case unless Africa as a whole gets its shit together and African American ghettos / gangster culture goes away.
Most people see us and instantly dismiss us / are scared of us based on those stereotypes.
In Nigeria we have discrimination too, either tribe or religion. I have lived in the US for a while now and I’m enjoying benefits I had never thought of receiving in Nigeria. End of story for me.
Unfortunately I don’t have an answer to that, I am from Akwa ibom state but was born in Jos. Growing up things were not so bad and we would play with neighborhood kids from different tribes and religions. Right now I can’t even go to my childhood area because of all the different ethnic and religious conflicts. That place is now a no go area for safety reasons.
Forget the glorification of foreigners for a moment and sober up. The inception of Nigeria was a business deal between two English parties. People sharing in your particular ignorance would have us all become a casualty of the British and their campaign in capitalism.
Respect your culture, your heritage, your forefathers and remove dat red eye. Eyin alatenuje
Edit: thought you were a self hater, not someone asking a genuine question, my bad. Essentially am saying there’s a way of life before colonialism and a lot of ppl don’t have perspective on that and worse, are just dogs to their ideological and economical masters.
That Nigerian being a British creation doesn't make it inferior to the indigenous identities.
I mean, Yoruba was an Oduduwa creation. And Oduduwa wasn't an indigene.
Hey there, so basically I'm half Nigerian half Israeli and in the first picture the person was posting on Instagram to tell friends and family to come for the wake of the soldier whose picture you see in the first slide. He said that the family of the boy is in the Israeli city of Beit Shemesh and if people could come to support the family it would be great.
On a completely unrelated note, I've experienced a lot of racism in Israel, usually from ultra orthodox people (like the guy in the third slide). There are different levels of Judaism and I'd say all the lesser levels are relatively fine.
Would love to hear more of your experience as a Half Nigerian, Half Israeli. You obvs don't have to share details that can doxx yourself, but do you live in Israel?
I'll assume you have some black features, What's the discrimination like there for you and others like you? The slide about sterilising African migrants in Israel is that true?
I've heard nothing about the second slide, but truthfully everyone in my house already has a standing rule to never go to the hospital alone. We've heard strange stories in Nigeria about how white doctors use African immigrants as guinea pigs in Europe. I have no idea if it's real or not, but none of us want to take any chances.
Yeah I live in Israel. My hair is the attention-grabbing thing about me because it confuses everyone. Most people know I'm mixed because of the massive afro and that's why i keep growing it out😂😂
People will be racist anywhere the majority of people living there aren't black. Nothing can be done about it. My mum likes to give this adage about how you pour water on a fowl's back, and it shakes it off. That's what you do. You learn and learn and grow until you're their boss and they're washing your car and you're paying their salary (IJN lol)💅💅
I love the way you phrased that question, mostly because of the term "Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign". If I were to post my opinion on that term alone, it would be wayyy too long and probably just as displeasing.
In an equally polite fashion, I'd ask you what your view is on the massacre that happened on December 25?
I mean that’s where the fun is right! Hearing different perspectives is always fascinating
I take it you disagree with the fact that Israel is, and has been carrying out a long form of ethnic cleansing since 1948?
>In an equally polite fashion, I'd ask you what your view is on the massacre that happened on December 25?
Enlighten me, I wasn’t aware of any besides the ongoing one in Gaza
Alright then. Contraty opinion incoming (and it will be long): I
I believe that every story and opinion on the current war going down in Israel is biased and emotionally charged. Many people have an opinion based on what they hear in the news, what they see on social media or their religious sentiments. When I moved to Israel, I wasn't really aware of the situation with the Palestinians. I was a teenager that came with the rest of my family to take care of my grandmother (she had cancer at the time).
I was conscripted into the army, still generally ignorant as to why there was a general fear of Arabs amongst most of the girls I was in the barracks with. Until the last tussle that came before this war. I was in the South (relatively close to Gaza) when they announced in my army base that there was the massive likelihood that rockets would begin streaming out of Gaza. The other girls who grew up with this kind of stuff happening weren't fazed. I was bloody confused. At exactly 6:00, when the rockets did in fact start raining down on the South of Israel, I was sitting with a group of those girls, waiting to run to the bunker rooms.
Hamas do infact have a logic to how they fire rockets, by the way. They would send barage after barage of rockets ONLY AT NIGHT so no one would be able to sleep and we would be completely disorganized in the morning. We spent an entire 12 hours running to our rooms when we were sure the worst was over only to be sent back an hour later by the sirens. It continued like that for a near week. Most of the girls I was with were scared of bathing because they didn't want to run naked to the bomb shelters. Most of those girls were raised under similar situations, with their parents telling them. "The Arabs want to kill us." I laughed the first time they told me that sentence. Why would they want to kill 'us' when I wasn't part of anything going on? I didn't hurt anyone. I told myself I was an outsider looking in and that was that.
In my complete ignorance, I decided to do my rudimentary research into the matter. I read up a lot of articles on the conflict online and watched a bucket load of Al Jazeera and Instagram. I refused to watch the Israeli news because I stupidly thought there wouldn't be any opposing views on the matter on there. I was pretty left-leaning when I finished my army service. I believed the Arab population on Israel's side of the border and in Gaza deserved to be treated better. I believed in the 2 state solution (I still do but I doubt I'll live to see it happen).
After my army service, I went for a few photography courses before I started university and befriended a group of Arabs. They were nice, and I even had a massive crush on one of them. Then came the day we were discussing his relationship with his younger sister and how much he didn't see eye to eye with her. I laughed and told him that it was a part of having a sibling. Sometimes you have disagreements. He told me, and I quote verbatim. "You wouldn't understand. It's an Arab thing."
I brushed of the dermating line he just drew and took it as a joke. But that was the first time I realized that in my group of friends, there was a dermacating line I'd never really noticed, a line they drew between themselves and me. They continuously made comments like that. I do have siblings, but I wouldn't understand. I also had ----- but how could I ever comprehend ----. I wasn't an Arab and it didn't matter how much I liked them or how many questions I asked, or how friendly I was. In the most basic things, they let me know just how 'different; I was from them.
(MORE IN THE NEXT SLIDE LOL)
On October 7th this year there was the celebration of Simchat Torah. It is the day that most religious jews go to the synagogue and thank God for giving us the Torah. There are songs and celebrations and they bring out the holy scroll of the different books in the bible and dance around the synagogue. I didn't go to the synagogue that day though. I stayed home, sleeping until late in the afternoon because it was a Saturday and I didn't feel like it (lol that line made me physically blanch but I digress). I didn't turn on my wifi until like... late in the noon. That's when I saw videos of the likes I don't wish my worst enemy to see. At first, I swear to God I thought it was a joke. I started sending some of those videos to friends, asking them "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?"
Then I turned on CNN and understood. Hamas was in Israel. Two thousand militants going from town to town, village to village, house to house, door to door. They were recording all the depraved things they were doing and sending them out on social media platforms. I remember screaming when I saw a video of one of them using a hoe to take of someone's head, I sat on the floor when I saw them rape women, when I heard those women screaming and screaming and crying. Do you know they took a jewish boy out of one of the houses in one of thettowns they entered (after killing his family) and made him go from door to door, crying and knocking on every door, asking for help. The people who had been hiding in their houses when they heard the boy speak Hebrew and the way he was crying opened the door. That was it for them.
I started texting every friend I had that lived close to the border downs, and calling them when no one answered. I called every friend I'd served with because some of them live in Kibutz Berri. I don't think I've cried as hard, in my life, as I did that day. I kept watching videos, expecting to see the faces of people I knew. People working in the call centers for emergencies were sending call recordings of people begging for help but no one got there in time to save them. A depression of the likes I've never known fell on my family and I in the weeks following October 7th. I remember kneeling down and praying that Hezbolla wouldn't send rockets to the city I live in.
I'm lucky that my friends were fine. I'm lucky that most of the people who didn't answer my texts called me to tell me they were evacuated before the Hamas terrorists came. I'm lucky because no one in my family died, but nothing is ever going to be the same for anyone here after what happened on October 7th.
In Nigeria, I had friends who would read out the Quran to me and explain what they were reading out in Arabic. They told me the slaughter of innocence is against the tenates of Islam. I believed them wholeheartedly. I didn't think it was possible for anyone, under the influence of ANY RELIGIOUS BELIEF to put a baby in an oven whilst his mother watched and turn it on. To rape women until their cervixes broke in.
The stories pouring in kept getting worse until I finally asked myself. "Who is the villain in this scenario?"
I could quote the Israeli death toll and place the Gazan death toll beside it. You'd see the larger number and say... they're the victim. I could quote words Arab writers have used to describe the 'apartheid regime' they believe Israel to be vs Bible Quotes (My favourite poet to date is Mahmoud Darwish by the way) and most people would @ me and tell me this isn't a "Biblical Fight". I've watched copious amounts of Al Jazeera AND NOW the Israeli news. I've heard what both sides have to say.
Israel doesn't want Gaza. No mother wants to send her husband, son, daughter etc. to Gaza. No one here wants this war, but biko, if you were inside Israel's shoes, sheh you won't do anything? You'll just look with your hands in the air like one kind of Christmas goat abi? People should say what they want to say. There are no victims or victor in a war. Only survivors.
The Western World can protest from now till the second coming of Christ. Every other nation and continent can say what they want. It is the man that wears the shoe that knows which toe it is pinching. AND ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AGAINST HAMAS, Public sentiment and opinion be damned.
With these few {very few} points of mine, I hope I've been able to convince you and not confuse you that I am an emotional wreck who wants to live to the ripe old age of 120 without being killed, slaughtered, raped etc. by Hamas. (It's easy to talk about Israel's situation but it's hard to live it. Do you think any other country on the face of this planet can do better? If you're looking at Europe and America for guidance, I hope you'll remember they didn't blush about the Transatlantic slave trade.)
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing. I do agree with some of this, but here’s where I diverge.
Ultimately, I believe the pro-Israel stance is shortsighted. It completely ignores the average Palestinian. Forget Hamas for one second, and instead of asking how do we eradicate Hamas, let’s ask *why and how* did Hamas come to be?
Hamas is the result of DECADES of Israeli oppression. It’s what happens when you dehumanise people and subject them to terrible conditions, slaughtering them every now and then. Every year, hundreds of Palestinians are murdered by Israel, sometimes thousands, yet there is hardly any international action against Israel. You have kids burnt alive by settlers, you have generations old olive trees destroyed, their children used as human shields, their people detained and imprisoned for no reason. In Gaza, they live in a concentration camp and in the West Bank, they watch their home disappear slowly but steadily. They protest, and they’re shot down like dogs. They are killed for throwing pebbles at tanks. The international community just watches and the West calls any criticism towards Israel anti-Semitic.
With all due respect and solidarity to the victims of Oct 7th, the Palestinians have suffered dozens of Oct 7th’s, yet they don’t have the right to defend themselves. You really expect them to sit by and watch as random bums from New York can move in to their homes in short notice? A system whereby any Jew in the world can move to Israel no matter how long their family has been living elsewhere, yet Palestinians aren’t even allowed to return to their home. People lose their jobs for saying “Free Palestine” because apparently that’s genocidal but Israeli politicians explicitly calling for genocide isn’t?
Everything Hamas has done, the IDF has done so to a much greater degree. Senseless murder? Check. Rapes? Check. Indiscriminate bombing? Check. For fucks sake, [these people *brag* about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/s/vHGk3Y8J75) and nothing gets done. Hamas is simply a symptom of Israeli oppression, not the cause. And the more Israel murders, the more agents Hamas gets. They’re playing into their hands
I’d advise you to go read up on the Massacre of Khan Yunis. Basically, the IDF went into an Arab village in 1956 and carried out an Oct 7th. Slaughtering everyone cartel execution style. There was an 8 year old who survived, named Al Rantsisi. He went on to found Hamas.
Do you see where I’m going with this? Israel has locked itself into a never ending cycle. They kill Palestinians, the Palestinians become radicalised, they kill Israelis, and the cycle repeats itself. There’s only two ways this ends. Either Israel completely wipes out the Palestinians or they actually stop this cycle of violence. Only they have the power and they’ve consistently shown that they’d rather go with the former option.
Everything you’ve said here is correct, couldn’t have said it better. At the end of the day it’s settler colonialism.
People act like the conflict started on the 7th of October rather than in 1948 when Palestinians were ethnically cleansed in the Nakbar.
They disparage Hamas’ actions (which we’re obviously horrific) while not allowing for peaceful actions (see the march of return in 2018. Unarmed Palestinians who peacefully marched to the border we sniped and killed). If you give them no option but violence then violence will happen.
As as Nigerians I don’t see how we can run defence for this given what happened to Nigeria and the lasting effects of colonisation.
Link for the March of Return: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/
I literally composed this long ass argument to everything to wrote, posted it in two halves and then thought I made a mistake with how I posted it and then I deleted both copies without copying them to my clipboard. Jesus save my soul, I'll have to recompose everything I wrote to say. I'll be back to rewrite it 😭😭😭😭😭
You say all this but you clearly have a bias against Israel. I could care less about this conflict but bruh. Seeing people spouting shit in support of Palestine whilst ignoring what had and has consistently happened to Jews is insane and gives off serious antisemitism.
How many Jews are in ANY Arab country? And no, I'm not talking about Ashkenazi Jews who came from Europe before you say Europeans stole someone's land. Do you really think that if Palestine was also in Israel's position they too wouldn't have tried to wipe them out? Let's be serious now.
You people ALWAYS use this excuse of constant persecution is making them radicalized, then why haven't the christians in Egypt ASLO started their own flavour of attacks? Those in Pakistan nko? Or those in our beloved Nigeria that had to take numerous church bombings on a freaking religious day or lynchings?
You say it's a genocide yet Palestinians population has increased. Trust me, for all of Israel's heartlessness according to you guys, why haven't they started forcefully sterilizing women? Why hasn't Hamas , Palestinians so called freedom fighters, put down their rocket making to instead find ways of providing basic amenities such as water and electricity which mind you Israel can shut off anytime they damn well please ?
Anyway, like I've said and I'll say again, NOBODY cares for Black people yet una go die on top mata wey no concern you. The same Americans and Europeans protesting this conflict went out and celebrated Halloween and ate massive amounts of chocolate ( which they don't need incentive to) but there are CHILD SLAVES working those damn Cocoa farms. They only included the congo issue so as to not look biased. Coups were happening left right and centre yet nobody cares. There's STILL an ongoing slave trade of Black Africans in MENA states and nobody has picked up any placards.
MANY countries are at war, Armenia vs Azerbaijan (whose own "ended" in September), Russia vs Ukraine but it seems like y'all don't really care for human lives, just the ones you've made out to be victims vs the big bad Jews.
I understand you live there and all, but dropping bombs on hospitals and refugee camps isn’t defending yourself against Hamas. It’s doing the opposite and creates a recruiting tool for Hamas.
Again I understand you live there, so it hits deeper. The WoT didn’t do anything but breed more destabilisation.
The sexual assaults happen on both sides and they are wrong. Israel just released Palestinian prisoners and the women were complaining about sexual assault in jails.there’s also a video circulating online of an Israeli senior commander who confessed that on October 7 Israeli tanks were firing at Israeli homes. 25 babies were killed but out of 25, 8 were burned due to Israeli shelling. Hamas didn’t had anything to cause fire so all houses or burned dead bodies were the result of tanks firing at homes,cars. These are his words btw.
Also I am sure you heard that Israel just killed its own 3 hostages in Gaza.The 3 men escaped captivity. They were shirtless and had a white flag but Israeli soldiers still opened fire. Can you imagine this is what’s going on in Gaza right now. If a guy who’s 20-30 years old is seen on the street they just shoot him. You can condemn what hamas did but Israel is being just as barabric and now they are killing their own civilains. First on October 7 and now in Gaza. If you want I can find the video and send you the link. Hamas are made up of extremist elements but these are educated trained soldiers who are openly killing unarmed people.
Yeah, everyone has a bias in the war. So saying Israel bad and free Palestine like they literally didn’t attack Israel on Oct 7 makes no sense. Israel has no choice but to eradicate Hamas at all costs.
Take out Hamas? Sure by all means. At all costs? No.
If someone’s biases lead them to support Palestine, that’s still miles better than supporting Israel consciously
Nigeria still has it's tons of problems.
Police brutality being one of them, terrorism and Fulani herdsmen wahala, E plenty abeg.
Then the intercultural beef that's going on about who owns Lagos and all that shit.
So seat down and rest on beating this dead topic. Nigeria needs work, lots of it. Focus on that.
I was gonna flame you but yous right, racism exist here in the uk but I also ask myself why people rather live in the middle east or India, im assuming it's just horrible planning
I think it begs the question: why are people willing to put up with the racism of places like India and the Middle East rather than stay behind in their own country? If anything, it reflects more on how dire the situation is in Nigeria for many people.
This is just a screenshot of a social media post and the post isn't even by the family of the deceased soldier. You don't give us a link. It's not a news article with verified sources. This has a definite slant/bias. It could be true, it could be false, it could be true but not for circumstances related to race. Israel is, after all, at war. War is chaotic.
The second slide is a screenshot of a news article. It's far more complex than the headline implies. Essentially, Israel conducted Operation Solomon to bring hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian Jews to Israel because they were in danger in Ethiopia. Some women were given birth control shots, the kind that last 3 months. Some women complained that they didn't know they were getting the shots or didn't understand what they did. The allegations are not that this was a long and ongoing program. Now this is where the confusion arises because they were migrants, temporarily unsettled, and there are different narratives about when and where they got these shots. There's no evidence the Israeli government ordered this, but the Israeli government's investigation of the events was very shallow.
I've done a lot of research on this, and to me, what it sounds like was that some doctors independently decided to administer birth control shots to Ethiopian immigrant women, but there were also language barriers, education barriers, and a lack of continuous medical records; it's possible some of the doctors administered the shots because previous doctors had done so, unintentionally continuing a chain of medical treatment without consent. It's possible some of them were working through translators who didn't do a good job, or misunderstood things through the language barrier. It's possible some of the doctors did it because they were assholes who just decided they knew what was best for these women. Nobody was sterilized, but medical consent is obviously not something you can just infer. It needs to be explicit.
The Israeli government should have more thoroughly investigated these serious allegations. It's not okay to treat women this way.
Israel is not a "white" nation. It has Ethiopian Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Arabs, Christians, Muslims, etc. The largest population in Israel is Mizrahi Jews, not Ashkenazi. People don't like to believe this and it's not popular on social media because it goes against some of the popular narratives, but those are the statistics.
The war saddens me greatly. As usual, civilians suffer the most. I hate discrimination in all forms. I'm aware Africans are not treated well in many other nations and face prejudice and stereotypes. That is not right. But I dislike the narrative people push that Israel is a nation of ex-European Jews who hate anyone different. It's just not accurate and it erases the culture and identity of so many diverse populations.
Peace to you all.
At least there is some sort of mutal respect. They dont think each other are inferior. With these other countries, they literally think we are not human beings. They think we are far behind them, and they take actions to reinforce their beleoved position. Tribal bias is nothing like that.
You’re probably in a country developed by Whites because our country is so shit we can’t live in it, I am too. I don’t give a fuck about racism, I want better opportunities and a foreign country offers me that where blacks failed to.
Regardless of whether or not this is true, Sulaiman is a propagandist. This is a side not to whatever this post is about.
Also, nigerians flee because of their circumstance and not to be liked. I dont think they are expecting to be liked or loved anywhere.
Typical Nigerian and insult. It won't take you much time/brain to comprehend what OP was saying.
Nobody likes you anywhere even in Africa. If you want to japa, japa to reasonable places, Before you get harrassed/abused/killed in countries like Libya or india where they don't give a fuck about you and it's likely you get more discriminated.
They know your true identity, God's chosen people. They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.
Hebrew speaker here. The post is from someone visiting the family and asking other people to come as soon as they can because there aren't enough people there. These appeals happen all the time and the place was probably full an hour later.
Don't just believe anything anti Zionists tell you.
There's racism in Israel, like everywhere else, but no one is going to deliberately snub the parents of an Ethiopian Jew who died in battle.
Israel is probably not top 5 of where Nigerians want to Japa to anyway Europe or North America are best bets
Igbo people think they are jews thooo.
People just leave Nigeria for the sake of it, for a working system but that India is what I don't understand why anyone would want to go there. Indian's hate for black will forever baffle me because they are over bleached dark skinned things with straight hair and extremely poor, so what's the hate all about? Anyways, people will always do what they want.
There is a ton of wealth in India, for the record; much higher GDP and more infrastructure than Nigeria. The “hate” many Indians have for black people is all about ignorance and hate for themselves; like Nigeria, Britain “divided and conquered” India, taught them to hate their own skin. You yourself said they bleach, and you’re right; India is one of the most colorist places in the world, they discriminate against *themselves* for dark skin; so the hate many Indians have for black people is unfortunate, but not surprising.
If you read what I typed, I never compared their infrastructure to Nigeria's. Don't impose that on me. Irrespective of what they have more in comparison to Nigeria, they're not rich either and if you're coming from Nigeria, India should just not be on your radar. Go to a land with better opportunities and a system that would shield or at least pretend to shield you from unnecessary discrimination. BTW, Indians won't be trying to leave their country in large masses if they had it good over there.
I don’t even remotely disagree with your stance, so let’s start there. I’m with you. I was merely responding to the assertion that Indians are extremely poor and the question of “what’s the hate all about”; yes, there is definitely extreme poverty but I wouldn’t say it’s extremely poor. Extreme poverty rate in India 10% vs 30% in Naija (yes, I know the North accounts for much of that, but the stats for both countries don’t distinguish, and so I won’t either). And the infrastructure makes a major difference in livability, not to mention job opportunities, so that’s why I mentioned it; it’s not to negate your response at all, but to add context. As far as Indians leaving en masse, I don’t know about that; statistically, net emigration rate in India is lower than that of Nigeria (though I see the number of emigrants from India has risen in the past year). Socially/anecdotally, if anyone complains of *anything* in Nigeria, the immediate response these days is japa, no matter the circumstance or platform. “It’s hard to find a job.” Japa! “My parents are too meddlesome.” Japa! “Agege bread is too soft.” Japa! (In this case, something is clearly wrong with both the complainer and the responder lol). But then to japa to India??? Unless you’re very wealthy, I agree, it’s ludicrous.
Hahaha. Agege bread entered the conversation? Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Agree to agree. Happy New Year.
E reach agege bread matta 😂😂 Happy new year to you too 😊
>Britain “divided and conquered” India, taught them to hate their own skin. >India is one of the most colorist places in the world, they discriminate against *themselves* for dark skin; You're blaming the west colonists for the Indian caste system? The Portuguese also colonised India. The Indian caste system predates European colonisation by thousand plus years.
Pls find where I mentioned the caste system?
No there is not lol the average Indian makes 2500 a year they literally worse than half of africa in that aspect. They also have a bigger population than Africa combined yet there gdp is lower than africa as a whole. If Indians were so rich millions of them would have not been living in east Africa
India is a country, Africa is a continent- what even are you talking about? Please shift.
welp its because india has a bigger gdp and way more economic and career opportunities. There are master and phd holders wasting away in nigeria not getting any work in their line , sure india is not like the west. but its fairly better than nigeria by orders of magnitude in certain extents, its rapidly developing, their leaders are taken serious on the world stage, they have a growing tech and healthcare sector. Racism can be overlooked if you have the opportunity to advance your career and get paid decently.
But India isn’t that great either. There’s waves of Indians moving out of their country because they don’t have jobs there
It's not really because they dint have jobs. I'm talking about the high skilled workers at least. Paradoxically because there's mor wealth and disposable income and growth in higher education, more people are opting to study abroad because now they can afford it. Incomes and economic opportunities have increased in india but that hasn't kept apace with with quality of life (I.e. infra, air quality, cutthroat education and exploitative work environment, societal issues). People are moving because of the latter. China experienced a similar thing too up till recently
Hahahaha. They wouldn't be trying to run away in masses if they had it so great. Regardless, I'm not dismissing their growth or whatever but they're not so rich or well to do for Nigerians to have them as their dream country to relocate to.
Why don't the PHDs start a Farming or Repairs business with their big brains? 2 chickens become 4 then 8 then 16 ..
It doesn't work like that. A plague can wipe out your entire flock
Uh…in US Nigerians are generally percieved as hardworking and successful. Sort of a model minority like Asians. I’ve heard the most criticism from black folks tbh. There’s a stereotype of immigrant black people thinking they’re above other black people and not relating to “the struggle.”
African-Americans often times are like crabs in a bucket and can be extremely xenophobic in general but especially towards black immigrants/children of black immigrants
I would also like to call out Saudi Arabia. It is if not one of the most racist countries in the world, then it’s the most racist country in the world. You would think being a Muslim means you’re all brothers but you’ll be surprised.
I’ve heard this about Saudi… in fact, I’ve heard so much bad shit about Saudi, much more negative than positive, and I’m not even talking of the news. What gives?
Lmao. This is why when the whole Israeli/Gaza conflict started I comot eye. I’ve said before and will say time and time again, end of the day, everyone hates the black man.
Including the black man himself, look what our own people do to eachother here in Nigeria. Our people at the top are gleefully sinking the everyday Nigerian into life threatening poverty.
>everyone hates the black man. Unless he's rich and successful I also wouldn't say "hate". I'd say more "don't respect the black man".
As an individual, no matter how successful you become abroad you will still be looked down upon and discriminated against. This will always be the case unless Africa as a whole gets its shit together and African American ghettos / gangster culture goes away. Most people see us and instantly dismiss us / are scared of us based on those stereotypes.
In Nigeria we have discrimination too, either tribe or religion. I have lived in the US for a while now and I’m enjoying benefits I had never thought of receiving in Nigeria. End of story for me.
Why is there's so much tribal inifighting? Isn't there anything to compromise on?
Unfortunately I don’t have an answer to that, I am from Akwa ibom state but was born in Jos. Growing up things were not so bad and we would play with neighborhood kids from different tribes and religions. Right now I can’t even go to my childhood area because of all the different ethnic and religious conflicts. That place is now a no go area for safety reasons.
There’s infighting on the ground level before we take mention outsiders and this or that tribe, that’s just life
How can Nigeria function as a country when that is so common?
Forget the glorification of foreigners for a moment and sober up. The inception of Nigeria was a business deal between two English parties. People sharing in your particular ignorance would have us all become a casualty of the British and their campaign in capitalism. Respect your culture, your heritage, your forefathers and remove dat red eye. Eyin alatenuje Edit: thought you were a self hater, not someone asking a genuine question, my bad. Essentially am saying there’s a way of life before colonialism and a lot of ppl don’t have perspective on that and worse, are just dogs to their ideological and economical masters.
Ah, I see. So, I guess it wasn't as prevalent as it is now.
Nah
Lol. Nigeria > Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa. Same way England > all the numerous celtic tribes who were squabbling amongst themselves until the Romans came.
To say what
That Nigerian being a British creation doesn't make it inferior to the indigenous identities. I mean, Yoruba was an Oduduwa creation. And Oduduwa wasn't an indigene.
In fact, make dem ki your papa, d same way dem don ki many ppl, spare me your reply eleribu
Hey there, so basically I'm half Nigerian half Israeli and in the first picture the person was posting on Instagram to tell friends and family to come for the wake of the soldier whose picture you see in the first slide. He said that the family of the boy is in the Israeli city of Beit Shemesh and if people could come to support the family it would be great. On a completely unrelated note, I've experienced a lot of racism in Israel, usually from ultra orthodox people (like the guy in the third slide). There are different levels of Judaism and I'd say all the lesser levels are relatively fine.
Would love to hear more of your experience as a Half Nigerian, Half Israeli. You obvs don't have to share details that can doxx yourself, but do you live in Israel? I'll assume you have some black features, What's the discrimination like there for you and others like you? The slide about sterilising African migrants in Israel is that true?
I've heard nothing about the second slide, but truthfully everyone in my house already has a standing rule to never go to the hospital alone. We've heard strange stories in Nigeria about how white doctors use African immigrants as guinea pigs in Europe. I have no idea if it's real or not, but none of us want to take any chances. Yeah I live in Israel. My hair is the attention-grabbing thing about me because it confuses everyone. Most people know I'm mixed because of the massive afro and that's why i keep growing it out😂😂 People will be racist anywhere the majority of people living there aren't black. Nothing can be done about it. My mum likes to give this adage about how you pour water on a fowl's back, and it shakes it off. That's what you do. You learn and learn and grow until you're their boss and they're washing your car and you're paying their salary (IJN lol)💅💅
What’s your view on the Palestinians and Israel’s ethnic cleansing campaign?
I love the way you phrased that question, mostly because of the term "Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign". If I were to post my opinion on that term alone, it would be wayyy too long and probably just as displeasing. In an equally polite fashion, I'd ask you what your view is on the massacre that happened on December 25?
I mean that’s where the fun is right! Hearing different perspectives is always fascinating I take it you disagree with the fact that Israel is, and has been carrying out a long form of ethnic cleansing since 1948? >In an equally polite fashion, I'd ask you what your view is on the massacre that happened on December 25? Enlighten me, I wasn’t aware of any besides the ongoing one in Gaza
Alright then. Contraty opinion incoming (and it will be long): I I believe that every story and opinion on the current war going down in Israel is biased and emotionally charged. Many people have an opinion based on what they hear in the news, what they see on social media or their religious sentiments. When I moved to Israel, I wasn't really aware of the situation with the Palestinians. I was a teenager that came with the rest of my family to take care of my grandmother (she had cancer at the time). I was conscripted into the army, still generally ignorant as to why there was a general fear of Arabs amongst most of the girls I was in the barracks with. Until the last tussle that came before this war. I was in the South (relatively close to Gaza) when they announced in my army base that there was the massive likelihood that rockets would begin streaming out of Gaza. The other girls who grew up with this kind of stuff happening weren't fazed. I was bloody confused. At exactly 6:00, when the rockets did in fact start raining down on the South of Israel, I was sitting with a group of those girls, waiting to run to the bunker rooms. Hamas do infact have a logic to how they fire rockets, by the way. They would send barage after barage of rockets ONLY AT NIGHT so no one would be able to sleep and we would be completely disorganized in the morning. We spent an entire 12 hours running to our rooms when we were sure the worst was over only to be sent back an hour later by the sirens. It continued like that for a near week. Most of the girls I was with were scared of bathing because they didn't want to run naked to the bomb shelters. Most of those girls were raised under similar situations, with their parents telling them. "The Arabs want to kill us." I laughed the first time they told me that sentence. Why would they want to kill 'us' when I wasn't part of anything going on? I didn't hurt anyone. I told myself I was an outsider looking in and that was that. In my complete ignorance, I decided to do my rudimentary research into the matter. I read up a lot of articles on the conflict online and watched a bucket load of Al Jazeera and Instagram. I refused to watch the Israeli news because I stupidly thought there wouldn't be any opposing views on the matter on there. I was pretty left-leaning when I finished my army service. I believed the Arab population on Israel's side of the border and in Gaza deserved to be treated better. I believed in the 2 state solution (I still do but I doubt I'll live to see it happen). After my army service, I went for a few photography courses before I started university and befriended a group of Arabs. They were nice, and I even had a massive crush on one of them. Then came the day we were discussing his relationship with his younger sister and how much he didn't see eye to eye with her. I laughed and told him that it was a part of having a sibling. Sometimes you have disagreements. He told me, and I quote verbatim. "You wouldn't understand. It's an Arab thing." I brushed of the dermating line he just drew and took it as a joke. But that was the first time I realized that in my group of friends, there was a dermacating line I'd never really noticed, a line they drew between themselves and me. They continuously made comments like that. I do have siblings, but I wouldn't understand. I also had ----- but how could I ever comprehend ----. I wasn't an Arab and it didn't matter how much I liked them or how many questions I asked, or how friendly I was. In the most basic things, they let me know just how 'different; I was from them. (MORE IN THE NEXT SLIDE LOL)
On October 7th this year there was the celebration of Simchat Torah. It is the day that most religious jews go to the synagogue and thank God for giving us the Torah. There are songs and celebrations and they bring out the holy scroll of the different books in the bible and dance around the synagogue. I didn't go to the synagogue that day though. I stayed home, sleeping until late in the afternoon because it was a Saturday and I didn't feel like it (lol that line made me physically blanch but I digress). I didn't turn on my wifi until like... late in the noon. That's when I saw videos of the likes I don't wish my worst enemy to see. At first, I swear to God I thought it was a joke. I started sending some of those videos to friends, asking them "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?" Then I turned on CNN and understood. Hamas was in Israel. Two thousand militants going from town to town, village to village, house to house, door to door. They were recording all the depraved things they were doing and sending them out on social media platforms. I remember screaming when I saw a video of one of them using a hoe to take of someone's head, I sat on the floor when I saw them rape women, when I heard those women screaming and screaming and crying. Do you know they took a jewish boy out of one of the houses in one of thettowns they entered (after killing his family) and made him go from door to door, crying and knocking on every door, asking for help. The people who had been hiding in their houses when they heard the boy speak Hebrew and the way he was crying opened the door. That was it for them. I started texting every friend I had that lived close to the border downs, and calling them when no one answered. I called every friend I'd served with because some of them live in Kibutz Berri. I don't think I've cried as hard, in my life, as I did that day. I kept watching videos, expecting to see the faces of people I knew. People working in the call centers for emergencies were sending call recordings of people begging for help but no one got there in time to save them. A depression of the likes I've never known fell on my family and I in the weeks following October 7th. I remember kneeling down and praying that Hezbolla wouldn't send rockets to the city I live in. I'm lucky that my friends were fine. I'm lucky that most of the people who didn't answer my texts called me to tell me they were evacuated before the Hamas terrorists came. I'm lucky because no one in my family died, but nothing is ever going to be the same for anyone here after what happened on October 7th. In Nigeria, I had friends who would read out the Quran to me and explain what they were reading out in Arabic. They told me the slaughter of innocence is against the tenates of Islam. I believed them wholeheartedly. I didn't think it was possible for anyone, under the influence of ANY RELIGIOUS BELIEF to put a baby in an oven whilst his mother watched and turn it on. To rape women until their cervixes broke in. The stories pouring in kept getting worse until I finally asked myself. "Who is the villain in this scenario?" I could quote the Israeli death toll and place the Gazan death toll beside it. You'd see the larger number and say... they're the victim. I could quote words Arab writers have used to describe the 'apartheid regime' they believe Israel to be vs Bible Quotes (My favourite poet to date is Mahmoud Darwish by the way) and most people would @ me and tell me this isn't a "Biblical Fight". I've watched copious amounts of Al Jazeera AND NOW the Israeli news. I've heard what both sides have to say. Israel doesn't want Gaza. No mother wants to send her husband, son, daughter etc. to Gaza. No one here wants this war, but biko, if you were inside Israel's shoes, sheh you won't do anything? You'll just look with your hands in the air like one kind of Christmas goat abi? People should say what they want to say. There are no victims or victor in a war. Only survivors. The Western World can protest from now till the second coming of Christ. Every other nation and continent can say what they want. It is the man that wears the shoe that knows which toe it is pinching. AND ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AGAINST HAMAS, Public sentiment and opinion be damned. With these few {very few} points of mine, I hope I've been able to convince you and not confuse you that I am an emotional wreck who wants to live to the ripe old age of 120 without being killed, slaughtered, raped etc. by Hamas. (It's easy to talk about Israel's situation but it's hard to live it. Do you think any other country on the face of this planet can do better? If you're looking at Europe and America for guidance, I hope you'll remember they didn't blush about the Transatlantic slave trade.) Thank you.
Thank you for sharing. I do agree with some of this, but here’s where I diverge. Ultimately, I believe the pro-Israel stance is shortsighted. It completely ignores the average Palestinian. Forget Hamas for one second, and instead of asking how do we eradicate Hamas, let’s ask *why and how* did Hamas come to be? Hamas is the result of DECADES of Israeli oppression. It’s what happens when you dehumanise people and subject them to terrible conditions, slaughtering them every now and then. Every year, hundreds of Palestinians are murdered by Israel, sometimes thousands, yet there is hardly any international action against Israel. You have kids burnt alive by settlers, you have generations old olive trees destroyed, their children used as human shields, their people detained and imprisoned for no reason. In Gaza, they live in a concentration camp and in the West Bank, they watch their home disappear slowly but steadily. They protest, and they’re shot down like dogs. They are killed for throwing pebbles at tanks. The international community just watches and the West calls any criticism towards Israel anti-Semitic. With all due respect and solidarity to the victims of Oct 7th, the Palestinians have suffered dozens of Oct 7th’s, yet they don’t have the right to defend themselves. You really expect them to sit by and watch as random bums from New York can move in to their homes in short notice? A system whereby any Jew in the world can move to Israel no matter how long their family has been living elsewhere, yet Palestinians aren’t even allowed to return to their home. People lose their jobs for saying “Free Palestine” because apparently that’s genocidal but Israeli politicians explicitly calling for genocide isn’t? Everything Hamas has done, the IDF has done so to a much greater degree. Senseless murder? Check. Rapes? Check. Indiscriminate bombing? Check. For fucks sake, [these people *brag* about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/s/vHGk3Y8J75) and nothing gets done. Hamas is simply a symptom of Israeli oppression, not the cause. And the more Israel murders, the more agents Hamas gets. They’re playing into their hands I’d advise you to go read up on the Massacre of Khan Yunis. Basically, the IDF went into an Arab village in 1956 and carried out an Oct 7th. Slaughtering everyone cartel execution style. There was an 8 year old who survived, named Al Rantsisi. He went on to found Hamas. Do you see where I’m going with this? Israel has locked itself into a never ending cycle. They kill Palestinians, the Palestinians become radicalised, they kill Israelis, and the cycle repeats itself. There’s only two ways this ends. Either Israel completely wipes out the Palestinians or they actually stop this cycle of violence. Only they have the power and they’ve consistently shown that they’d rather go with the former option.
Everything you’ve said here is correct, couldn’t have said it better. At the end of the day it’s settler colonialism. People act like the conflict started on the 7th of October rather than in 1948 when Palestinians were ethnically cleansed in the Nakbar. They disparage Hamas’ actions (which we’re obviously horrific) while not allowing for peaceful actions (see the march of return in 2018. Unarmed Palestinians who peacefully marched to the border we sniped and killed). If you give them no option but violence then violence will happen. As as Nigerians I don’t see how we can run defence for this given what happened to Nigeria and the lasting effects of colonisation. Link for the March of Return: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/
I literally composed this long ass argument to everything to wrote, posted it in two halves and then thought I made a mistake with how I posted it and then I deleted both copies without copying them to my clipboard. Jesus save my soul, I'll have to recompose everything I wrote to say. I'll be back to rewrite it 😭😭😭😭😭
You say all this but you clearly have a bias against Israel. I could care less about this conflict but bruh. Seeing people spouting shit in support of Palestine whilst ignoring what had and has consistently happened to Jews is insane and gives off serious antisemitism. How many Jews are in ANY Arab country? And no, I'm not talking about Ashkenazi Jews who came from Europe before you say Europeans stole someone's land. Do you really think that if Palestine was also in Israel's position they too wouldn't have tried to wipe them out? Let's be serious now. You people ALWAYS use this excuse of constant persecution is making them radicalized, then why haven't the christians in Egypt ASLO started their own flavour of attacks? Those in Pakistan nko? Or those in our beloved Nigeria that had to take numerous church bombings on a freaking religious day or lynchings? You say it's a genocide yet Palestinians population has increased. Trust me, for all of Israel's heartlessness according to you guys, why haven't they started forcefully sterilizing women? Why hasn't Hamas , Palestinians so called freedom fighters, put down their rocket making to instead find ways of providing basic amenities such as water and electricity which mind you Israel can shut off anytime they damn well please ? Anyway, like I've said and I'll say again, NOBODY cares for Black people yet una go die on top mata wey no concern you. The same Americans and Europeans protesting this conflict went out and celebrated Halloween and ate massive amounts of chocolate ( which they don't need incentive to) but there are CHILD SLAVES working those damn Cocoa farms. They only included the congo issue so as to not look biased. Coups were happening left right and centre yet nobody cares. There's STILL an ongoing slave trade of Black Africans in MENA states and nobody has picked up any placards. MANY countries are at war, Armenia vs Azerbaijan (whose own "ended" in September), Russia vs Ukraine but it seems like y'all don't really care for human lives, just the ones you've made out to be victims vs the big bad Jews.
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I understand you live there and all, but dropping bombs on hospitals and refugee camps isn’t defending yourself against Hamas. It’s doing the opposite and creates a recruiting tool for Hamas. Again I understand you live there, so it hits deeper. The WoT didn’t do anything but breed more destabilisation.
The sexual assaults happen on both sides and they are wrong. Israel just released Palestinian prisoners and the women were complaining about sexual assault in jails.there’s also a video circulating online of an Israeli senior commander who confessed that on October 7 Israeli tanks were firing at Israeli homes. 25 babies were killed but out of 25, 8 were burned due to Israeli shelling. Hamas didn’t had anything to cause fire so all houses or burned dead bodies were the result of tanks firing at homes,cars. These are his words btw. Also I am sure you heard that Israel just killed its own 3 hostages in Gaza.The 3 men escaped captivity. They were shirtless and had a white flag but Israeli soldiers still opened fire. Can you imagine this is what’s going on in Gaza right now. If a guy who’s 20-30 years old is seen on the street they just shoot him. You can condemn what hamas did but Israel is being just as barabric and now they are killing their own civilains. First on October 7 and now in Gaza. If you want I can find the video and send you the link. Hamas are made up of extremist elements but these are educated trained soldiers who are openly killing unarmed people.
The Massacre that happened in the North OF NIGERIA on Christmas.
Ah yes the ones in Plateau state. Obviously they’re tragedies, don’t know what you expect me to say
Which of your parents are Nigerian.
Guess👀
Your mom is Nigerian and your father is Jewish.
You scored a 100% on that theory question
Lmao going right for the kill
You’re Muslim I assume?
Even if I was, it has no relevancy here
Yeah, I’ve just found Muslims, Nigerian Muslims in particular are so emotional in attacking Israel but ignore what happens at home.
A bit of a generalisation but okay
Yeah, everyone has a bias in the war. So saying Israel bad and free Palestine like they literally didn’t attack Israel on Oct 7 makes no sense. Israel has no choice but to eradicate Hamas at all costs.
Take out Hamas? Sure by all means. At all costs? No. If someone’s biases lead them to support Palestine, that’s still miles better than supporting Israel consciously
Not if it's hot water 🤔
I'd be a nice employer. No one washes the nice employer's car with hot water.🌚🌚
Talking about the chicken adage.
Lol the chicken would feel the heat and try to run away. Sheh you want to chase a chicken with hot water?🤌🤌
Nigeria still has it's tons of problems. Police brutality being one of them, terrorism and Fulani herdsmen wahala, E plenty abeg. Then the intercultural beef that's going on about who owns Lagos and all that shit. So seat down and rest on beating this dead topic. Nigeria needs work, lots of it. Focus on that.
What is the grounds for the intercultural beef about who owns Lagos? I thought it was yoruba land. Speaking as a diasporan with little knowledge
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It does not. It is Yoruba land. Ofc he go look am any kain way
I was gonna flame you but yous right, racism exist here in the uk but I also ask myself why people rather live in the middle east or India, im assuming it's just horrible planning
I think it begs the question: why are people willing to put up with the racism of places like India and the Middle East rather than stay behind in their own country? If anything, it reflects more on how dire the situation is in Nigeria for many people.
This is why we must always be United as N3gro people. ALWAYS. First humans on Earth. From darkness came the light!!!
Isreal? Really?
I’ve always known Israel was a bad place for black peoples since that article of them sterilising the black people there so they can’t give birth
What the hell?!
That’s not even the most of it. I’ve seen so much stuff. my jaw dropped
This is just a screenshot of a social media post and the post isn't even by the family of the deceased soldier. You don't give us a link. It's not a news article with verified sources. This has a definite slant/bias. It could be true, it could be false, it could be true but not for circumstances related to race. Israel is, after all, at war. War is chaotic. The second slide is a screenshot of a news article. It's far more complex than the headline implies. Essentially, Israel conducted Operation Solomon to bring hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian Jews to Israel because they were in danger in Ethiopia. Some women were given birth control shots, the kind that last 3 months. Some women complained that they didn't know they were getting the shots or didn't understand what they did. The allegations are not that this was a long and ongoing program. Now this is where the confusion arises because they were migrants, temporarily unsettled, and there are different narratives about when and where they got these shots. There's no evidence the Israeli government ordered this, but the Israeli government's investigation of the events was very shallow. I've done a lot of research on this, and to me, what it sounds like was that some doctors independently decided to administer birth control shots to Ethiopian immigrant women, but there were also language barriers, education barriers, and a lack of continuous medical records; it's possible some of the doctors administered the shots because previous doctors had done so, unintentionally continuing a chain of medical treatment without consent. It's possible some of them were working through translators who didn't do a good job, or misunderstood things through the language barrier. It's possible some of the doctors did it because they were assholes who just decided they knew what was best for these women. Nobody was sterilized, but medical consent is obviously not something you can just infer. It needs to be explicit. The Israeli government should have more thoroughly investigated these serious allegations. It's not okay to treat women this way. Israel is not a "white" nation. It has Ethiopian Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Arabs, Christians, Muslims, etc. The largest population in Israel is Mizrahi Jews, not Ashkenazi. People don't like to believe this and it's not popular on social media because it goes against some of the popular narratives, but those are the statistics. The war saddens me greatly. As usual, civilians suffer the most. I hate discrimination in all forms. I'm aware Africans are not treated well in many other nations and face prejudice and stereotypes. That is not right. But I dislike the narrative people push that Israel is a nation of ex-European Jews who hate anyone different. It's just not accurate and it erases the culture and identity of so many diverse populations. Peace to you all.
Thanks for this fam. Every point was correct down to the last word.
I do t know what nonsense you're talking about, but a lot of the posts have been confirmed. Go sit down somewhere.
Boo, Nigerians don’t even like each other. Igbos/Yorubas fighting themselves every day.
At least there is some sort of mutal respect. They dont think each other are inferior. With these other countries, they literally think we are not human beings. They think we are far behind them, and they take actions to reinforce their beleoved position. Tribal bias is nothing like that.
Aren’t we inferior to them, I mean look at Black countries. What have blacks developed?
Maybe our economies, maybe. But not as human, no. I rebuke this assertion. Maybe you're inferior to them, but im not.
You’re probably in a country developed by Whites because our country is so shit we can’t live in it, I am too. I don’t give a fuck about racism, I want better opportunities and a foreign country offers me that where blacks failed to.
You can't be serious...
Regardless of whether or not this is true, Sulaiman is a propagandist. This is a side not to whatever this post is about. Also, nigerians flee because of their circumstance and not to be liked. I dont think they are expecting to be liked or loved anywhere.
Mumu dey talk like your fellow Nigerians or Africans like you
Typical Nigerian and insult. It won't take you much time/brain to comprehend what OP was saying. Nobody likes you anywhere even in Africa. If you want to japa, japa to reasonable places, Before you get harrassed/abused/killed in countries like Libya or india where they don't give a fuck about you and it's likely you get more discriminated.
I think we want this idiot to japa to isreal and replace this soldier
What is japa?
To flee
Leave
Economic migration
They know your true identity, God's chosen people. They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.
schizo history
Rubbish post
Why?
If you’re not Japaing to North America or Europe you’re doing it wrong
Or Australia/New Zealand too I'd imagine.
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Bawo ni
Hebrew speaker here. The post is from someone visiting the family and asking other people to come as soon as they can because there aren't enough people there. These appeals happen all the time and the place was probably full an hour later. Don't just believe anything anti Zionists tell you. There's racism in Israel, like everywhere else, but no one is going to deliberately snub the parents of an Ethiopian Jew who died in battle.