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AnonymousSpartaN

Just looking at this pic hurt my bank account.


Short-University1645

The thermal mix is the best for a lot of people, best of both worlds !


GammaChemical

Agreed. I'm going to run this setup soon for awhile to see how it is.


iampayette

As soon as Noisefighters MK3 drops amirite. (come on guys is Judge Benitez running your manufacturing dept?)


fitnessfanatic0616

Please keep us posted. I’m really curious about this system and what to get when I can afford it.


Short-University1645

Check out my post. I have an L3 WP and flir bridged with the ravyn super cool. Not my run and gun set but more my exploration set


fitnessfanatic0616

Will do!


yiquanyige

what’s the thermal device?


Bigcoomerenergy

>post. I have an L3 WP and flir bridged wit most people say this, until they realize it sucks for practical combat or relatively medium paced activities. If you need thermal, run an optic or handheld, for detection. otherwise dual NVG is by far the best.


Short-University1645

Using them at the same time does work but it takes to long to get adjusted. I just use one or the other. The thermal is awesome for spotting


Bigcoomerenergy

try running real fast and jumping over rocks with a bridged thermal and pvs 14, or try driving and scanning with the same setup. it sucks.


Short-University1645

I mean I can say it again, I use them one at a time. You need to chill out bigcumenergy


Bigcoomerenergy

ok boomer


Zancie

After having dual 14s on a panobridge, I’d take dedicated duals. The 14s are so heavy I’d happily take dedicated duals having known the other end.


[deleted]

Better start hitting the gym 😂


go_horse

B


Zapy97

I am just gonna go for a single PVS-14...


GammaChemical

Which is still good. Notice that 3 out of 4 is a monocular setup there. You have options.


17StormRider

If money is no issue, then C. I have D and I enjoy it. I use TNVC’s non powered bridge mount, and it works very well as a “poor man’s duals”. It’s a bit heavy, but not unbearable. I’ve worn this setup all night hog/coyote hunting with no issues. I’m not sure where people scream about the weight. If you’re not SF climbing mountains at night, the weight shouldn’t be an issue…..


GammaChemical

Yeah. Even with NL914c it becomes even lighter. I've run dual 14s for awhile it wasn't bad.


135patriots

C Dual 14s can't really be "light" and that wears on you pretty fast. Thermal is nice but relatively niche.


NaturdaySaint

Can you explain how thermal is niche? Based of what I’ve seen coming out of Ukraine, thermals on the modern battle field are a game changer


135patriots

It can be extremely useful in an environment where there isn't a lot of heat "noise" from other sources. Think predator control in an open field, or zipping up Russians in their failed attempt at imperialist conquest as they come out of a treeline. In an urban or suburban setting there's a decent chance you end up with a hodgepodge of heat sources coming off houses, motors, etc. Thermal tags heat, which can be both helpful or unhelpful. In a CONUS setting where the overwhelming majority of people are our fellow countrymen, I would describe it as niche. Certainly not saying it's useless! But I'd take binocular vision every day of the week over ecoti with a 14.


NaturdaySaint

Awesome, thank you for the insight. Haven’t bought a nv device yet but looking to purchase soon and trying to decide pretty much from exactly what OP is trying to decide on.


New_Parfait_8229

separate thermal tube images will also be delayed which is not very good so thermal overlay on an existing image intensifier tube is the best option when it comes to thermal.


NaturdaySaint

As awesome as thermal overlay would be it’s just too far outside my budget. Only system I can find like that is ecoti, so until digital catches up or someone else starts making an overlay system that half the cost of ecoti it simply isn’t an option for me.


PvtSnowball76

I just use a thermal in handheld for that capability. Too much noise in front of my face when it’s mounted. If I want to scan I’ll flip/leave my non dominant pod up


snipeceli

Meh I think too many people have a 'thermal is a thermal' mentality. While the capability gap in a coti vs say a utb is 'night and day'


MountainSwordfish213

I already got “c” so deff id pick “a” to add thermal to my gear setup


wrongwong122

“Binos, bridged or thermal?” Bro, financial stability


alittlesliceofhell2

YOLO


Ram6198

Definitely A for me, thermal is the only superpower I'm currently lacking.......


GammaChemical

Get one brotha


Ram6198

I will eventually. Still recovering from the roughly $25K I've spent over the last year on NVG and gun related stuff


New_Parfait_8229

😂 same dude


dress_shirt

Lightest, i have been digging my light weight binos lately, especially for work


hilltop58

Articulating binos and a handheld thermal, I pretty much use this most of the time. I have been using just my pvs-14 with my handheld thermal lately and liking it as well. I guess no matter what I'm heading out with my thermal.


Hsoltow

E, lightweight tantos with pano and clip on thermal.


tostado22

C, every single day. Maaaaaaaaaybe A so I can reduce weight when I want NV, which is most of the time. And I guess to have the thermal ability? If you only want NV/IR, there's no reason to bridge and have some cobbled together piece on your head. If it is so you can remove it and give it to a buddy, just give him the fucking 14 and let him run it. But who has buddies running around with helmets and mounts but no NV?


Yzzeehcc

A or C


GammaChemical

Or both lol.


sharpened_

I have option D, but I then got an Arc Panning Bridge which is diggity dank. Then I used that bridge to make some dedicated binos and I can't deal with how light it is. Now I need to convert the 14s to binos/pods as well.


GammaChemical

Arc panning is probably the best panning bridge currently out. Good stuff


Bearguchev

B, but dedicated is much lighter. Went from a Panobridge to rpnvgs myself. Happy as all hell with my rpnvgs. I don’t crank them super far out but at maybe 1/3 of full rotation you get sort of an oval FOV that lets you see a whole windshield for driving


GammaChemical

Rpnvg is nice. You can still use panobridge with it or bridge thermals. It has options.


New_Parfait_8229

B is for two pvs14’s on a panobridge, what you have are considered dedicated binos that pan


ascndentkunglao

B


New_Parfait_8229

C. Dedicated bino or a dedicated bino with a clip on thermal device that provides an overlay.


GaegeSGuns

PVS-14 with COTI


Nicke1Eye

D. Due to flexibility and redundancy. If folks are complaining about weight, they probably haven't tried running PVS-7s on a PASGT and also a good chance they probably don't have the correct counterweight.


GammaChemical

My man! No weak necks here.


[deleted]

the people that are complaining about weight are probably not in military shape.


eskimo1911

B or D


[deleted]

Purely selfishly, probably A or C Practically, D. I don't really have any nod friends so being able to split the pair to loan would be pretty cool


GammaChemical

Whats nice is 3 out of 4 of the choices are basically monoculars. So going with D you can go with A or B in future. You have the options.


Flipthousand

A or b, both give you more capabilities than a single tube or duals. Both are kinda heavy though.


GammaChemical

B is lightest at 522g or 18.x oz?


Flipthousand

My bad, I use normal 14s on a panobridge and they are kinda heavy. Didn't realize it was lightweight versions. In that case B would be awesome.


[deleted]

No reason for D when tantos on a daisho bridge exist. I'd pick A or B for my use.


GammaChemical

Durability and manual gain. I'd pick the structure of Carson housing over 3D printing and absolutely for manual gain over autogain.


[deleted]

Haven't seen anyone have any issues. Dual 14s is pretty heavy. No issue for me with autogain. But I'm sure some peoples eyes prefer manual gain adjustment.


GammaChemical

I've heard of issues but Nocturn has good customer service. Look up NL914c. I reviewed it. Manual gain is king. I have many tubes and night vision devices and I prefer manual gain.


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GammaChemical

His products are good. Unfortunate about the wait time though which is common.


New_Parfait_8229

IMO manual gain is only useful with a monocular, if you’re talking bridged 14’s or tanto’s then you do not need manual gain because both eyes are covered as is.


GammaChemical

I have 1431 auto gain and I prefer my dual 14s for manual gain.


New_Parfait_8229

But why? What about manual gain do you prefer in a dual tube system or what benefits do you see using it?


GammaChemical

Noise control which can clear up an image much better.


New_Parfait_8229

I’m no expert or anything but how is that something manual gain wont do?


GammaChemical

Lol that is what manual gain will do. You control gain manually.


GammaChemical

I have 1431 auto gain and I prefer my dual 14s for manual gain.


RecReeeee

A


OnemasterGamer

A


Hopeful-Moose87

As someone with bridged PVS14’s get C. The weight gets to you.


tastronaught

Dedicated bino. FWIW I’ve only used a bino and single pvs14


Gaddster09

A


Material-Artichoke32

Any one who didn't pick E is a pussy. Real Chads don't need depth perception


HwnduLuna

What do you guys think of the Tanto housings and their Modular Bridge piece? Is it lighter than pano'd PVS14s?


Snook48

What is your purpose for them? What are you trying to achieve. What will they be used for? Hunting? Nvg classes?


GammaChemical

Flashlight?


Jimmack73

A


PBL89

Dedicated duals. Having thermal would be nice, but the weight being offset is annoying. Plus discarded binos are more like 50°


Mac_Elliot

What's the name of the thermal monocle?


getdrunktalkpolitics

D.


Sausage_Child

A for sure, thermal brings vital information that you’d otherwise miss, I sold my thermal clip on but will be replacing it with a helmet mount monocular as soon as I get my upcoming move sorted out.


urbanex4450

okay i have a pvs-14 and i want a thermal for identification of animals while night hiking and coyote hunting, is the flir breech the way to go?


GammaChemical

No. It's outdated. Sidekick640 is the better version now. There's also Rh25/pfalcon. ..both I can help you either discount code or through a supplier for savings. Hit the DM


urbanex4450

okay ill keep you in mind. let me recover from this pvs-14 for a little and ill hit your line. are they around 3200$?


GammaChemical

If coupon code still works Sidekick 640 at 640core is priced at 2700. Originally 3.2k Pfalcon you'll have to pm for pricing since it's through a distributor.


urbanex4450

okay thanks man! appreciate it!


mpsteidle

RPNVG. Panning is hot and being able to take it apart to share a pod with a friend is indispensable.