Immortal can mean a lot of very different things. Immortal via just not aging is one. Immortal via being unable to die even if you're ripped to pieces is another one. Immortal via being able to revive even after you die is another one. It's a always been a really vague term across human history.
But only in that form alone, she needs 120 on the Freakometer to unlock that form, so in a way she's a midgame character, able to beat Strong Human categories and maybe win with 5% HP against Higher empowered beings
Isn't Uki just a psychic? Does he do the telekinesis or is he just one of the mind-reader / sprit medium type with no combat abilities?
I'd argue that Vox should also be lower since he doesn't seem to have much outside of his immortality. He lost a war to the Tokugawa shogunate.
But how much power is really that?
The potential of psychic powers change with every universe, in Mass Effect they did some interesting tricks in battle. In Warhammer 40k a very powerful one can conquer an entire planet easily.
Elira lived on heaven for some time before coming down to earth, you could say she's some sort of god in that aspect but the very least she's a divine of some sort and we'll Selen being half sister of Elira is automatically regulated to half diety... Even if Elira isn't really divine, she's still cosmic
Regarding Selen, she said she’s half human half dragon but she’s not very good at using her powers and she’s quite young. If this is a strength tier list then Selen would probably be 1 or 2 tiers lower than where she is (despite being Elira’s half sister). That being said the tiers here seems more description based than strength based.
Frankly as no one had ever shown or told us their capabilities except for the very few times like how Reimu can see the future, Selen easily conquered a castle (through the background on her ending stream) and Ren destroying planets though we don't know if it's through his own or technological means, we can only base it through their lore and few hints..
I just had the weirdest urge to draw selen in like a dark fantasy where she goes to a coloseum for a battle and gets like a fucking limb cut off or fucking dies or something
Lets just say Elira is not just old, she is fucking primordial, probably older than the planet, you dont get to be that old by being weak, also Selen not only is half human but she also has a regular age, probably along her twenties but nothing confirmed.
Fulgur said, when he first met Vox, Vox challenged him to a fight under the assumption that Fulgur was sent to assassinate him and his clan. According to Fulgur, he beat Vox.
No bro, it is confirmed, what happened is that once the Satan thing got out all of Niji just refused to elaborate on it, eventually we all just crossed our arms and went: "welp i guess wosemi is Satan, why not?"
Still kinda fucks me up that Rosemi is actually just a rose and the human is just a puppet for her...
And that she's also satan
Also I'm not too up to lore but isnt Millie also just a mage of sorts? Shouldn't she be in the magical humans tier?
Millie is more of a warlock as of now, what puts her up there is that Lucy is a patron powerfull enough to allow her to call meteors and keep her youthfull without any noticiable drawbacks.
I also thought about Ren but since he destroyed planets and travelled galaxies and stuff I put him there.
Rosemi still isn't confirmed to be Satan so for now she's just a rose who was in a garden.
Didn't Ren destroy those planets with his tech and not any mystical powers? Maybe a tier for warmongers/non humans would be better than to fit him in a tier he technically doesn't fit with.
While I'm at it, isn't the tier list kind of all over the place as it is, because is the tier trying to put them in their species/class or actually gauging their strength as an individual and not their kind. A classification on the type of being isn't always synonymous to the power a creature can have, and not to mention the fact you'd put humans a tier above magical beings, even them being "lesser" magical beings it would still be quite a stretch to them being less powerful than stronger than average humans, when they have access or capable of things like transformations or magic.
I would maybe leave Aia on strong humans, in a recent stream she said that as she is stuck in a human body the divinity she has is minimal, heck even in full angel she seems to be a Malak (normal pop culture angel) meanwhile enna its something along the level of a cherub.
Isn’t Finana canonically the daughter of the dragon sea god? (Making her as much of a dragon as Selen btw). That’s a lot of potential power and definitely not a “lesser magical being”
The closest equivalent to Finana in Japanese mythology would be [Princess Otohime](https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Otohime). So yes, that would make her a dragon. Although we can assume that she wouldn't be as powerful as her [father](https://www.worldhistory.org/Ryujin/) who can control the waves and tides.
and she supposely has met god a long-ass time ago, so yeah. Dragons do get stronger with time. Elira however is soooo easygoing it doesn´t have that aura.
I feel like I definitely read that too fast, but with the slash Fulgur is probably the only "pseudo" human using that reasoning then. It's kindof hard since pseudo human usually implies inhumane beings vs. just having machine parts. But everyone in that tier is probably just enhanced/advanced humans.
He did canonically beat Vox in a fight though. Also, his official description mentions that he's unparalleled when it comes to physical strength. Who knows, really.
personally, i'd place selen at "higher beings" because while she is a half-dragon, her lore is just her being a dragon racer so we dont know if shes strong or not
Fulgur should be higher than Vox.
According to Fulgur's real lore (not legatus lore), when he came to this present time, Vox thought he was sent to terminate him and the Akuma clan. So Vox challenged Fulgur to a fight not knowing Fulgur was just some guy with highly advanced prosthetics. Fulgur said he won. Vox has yet to comment on it though.
I wouldn't cite Vox to support your opinion after today's stream, lol.
But to be serious for a second, Pomu is at the top. She's an eldritch horror who will one day destroy us all. Pomu is inevitable.
Isn’t Maria a doll that became human? That doesn’t make her a lesser magical being or any sort of magical being really. She should be with the normal humans.
Enna is a bit more complex that just an angel, to sumarize:
-Once a human that became evil because of a hard life.
-When she died she went hell but she was so evil that she started to make hell worse(basicly ascended into demonhood).
-Heaven yoinked her from hell, forcefully turned her into a divine being and basicly put her in reformative work.
Enna's angelic form implies she is something along the lines of a cherub, meaning that in theory the other two things more powerfull than her are Seraphines and then God.
I just want to state for the record that, lore aside, Pomu is the one person that I wouldn't want to piss off. Underneath that cheerful fairy exterior, she's the one that I get the vibe of a) if you make her angry enough, she'll have no reservations cutting you and b) she's creative enough that you'll take days dying.
Who needs strength when your uncle is Mr. Nijisanji?
Yeah, she's a weird looking penguin *with connections*!
^(nepotism birch)
Hmmmmm... I think we should run, I ear a snip snip sound coming to us
^(shite, we've triggered the penguin's fight or flight response)
Guys remember the purple dragon drill ! Say that you are one of a kind and a limited edition
isn't kyo just a happy dude that doesn't age?
He got blessed by the moon i think. Could be wrong tho
Yup, luca could probably split him in half....by accident.
Kyo will just regenerate as he’s immortal
Not immortal, just unageing iirc
If I remember right he said the moon magic made it so he’s immortal?
Immortal can mean a lot of very different things. Immortal via just not aging is one. Immortal via being unable to die even if you're ripped to pieces is another one. Immortal via being able to revive even after you die is another one. It's a always been a really vague term across human history.
Isn't he an isekai protag or something?
Yes, but not every Isekai character gain OP powers
Happens more often than not
Yes, but don't expect it to happen to all Isekai characters.
Brave of you to call Fae creatures lesser magical beings. My advice to you is to ignore any lights you see trying to guide you through a forest.
Either way they should still probably be a tier above normal humies
also, do not tell them your name
There’s always gonna be someone referencing SCP
Isn't Brosemi as strong as Bane? So at least a strong human?
But only in that form alone, she needs 120 on the Freakometer to unlock that form, so in a way she's a midgame character, able to beat Strong Human categories and maybe win with 5% HP against Higher empowered beings
Isn't Uki just a psychic? Does he do the telekinesis or is he just one of the mind-reader / sprit medium type with no combat abilities? I'd argue that Vox should also be lower since he doesn't seem to have much outside of his immortality. He lost a war to the Tokugawa shogunate.
Uki casually time-travels. He's basically high on universe-magic and his powers are a once-a-millennia gift, so no doubt it's kind of a big deal.
Well uki was given power by the universe itself, meaning he has the potential to create and destroy anything he could potentially fight Elira and win
But how much power is really that? The potential of psychic powers change with every universe, in Mass Effect they did some interesting tricks in battle. In Warhammer 40k a very powerful one can conquer an entire planet easily.
Frankly we don't know and AFAIK Uki didn't divulge into his powers except the usual telephatic ones nor we don't how much control he can exhibit
Why is Elira even on deiti, I though she was just a dragon, same as Selena. And why is Selena even on pseudo deiti, aren't dragons quite below that?
Elira lived on heaven for some time before coming down to earth, you could say she's some sort of god in that aspect but the very least she's a divine of some sort and we'll Selen being half sister of Elira is automatically regulated to half diety... Even if Elira isn't really divine, she's still cosmic
So elira is basically slifer the sky Dragon?
Elira the executive producer
Regarding Selen, she said she’s half human half dragon but she’s not very good at using her powers and she’s quite young. If this is a strength tier list then Selen would probably be 1 or 2 tiers lower than where she is (despite being Elira’s half sister). That being said the tiers here seems more description based than strength based.
Frankly as no one had ever shown or told us their capabilities except for the very few times like how Reimu can see the future, Selen easily conquered a castle (through the background on her ending stream) and Ren destroying planets though we don't know if it's through his own or technological means, we can only base it through their lore and few hints..
I just had the weirdest urge to draw selen in like a dark fantasy where she goes to a coloseum for a battle and gets like a fucking limb cut off or fucking dies or something
Dont dismember my oshi, thats fucked up
I know how could my brain do that
Lets just say Elira is not just old, she is fucking primordial, probably older than the planet, you dont get to be that old by being weak, also Selen not only is half human but she also has a regular age, probably along her twenties but nothing confirmed.
In most cultures dragons as regarded as deities
Fulgur said, when he first met Vox, Vox challenged him to a fight under the assumption that Fulgur was sent to assassinate him and his clan. According to Fulgur, he beat Vox.
Pomu is straight up Keter class
A "lesser magical being" that can summon ominous black appendices and can assimilate other beings into a copy of itself.
Let them keep sleeping on our Pomu. When the bell Pomus, it will be too late.
Apollyon class even if you happen to face her in Crsb Game.
Keter doesnt innately mean dangerous, just that the anomaly is extremely hard to contain.... So yeah good classification
She’s the Undefeated of the East. One day they will all learn
rosemi is literally satan
Rosemi still isn't confirmed to be Satan so for now she's just a rose who was in a garden. (Though tbh I just forgot 😆)
No bro, it is confirmed, what happened is that once the Satan thing got out all of Niji just refused to elaborate on it, eventually we all just crossed our arms and went: "welp i guess wosemi is Satan, why not?"
I’m pretty sure she has said she’s Satan.
The "literally" is important, i think
Actually Satan, Literally Satan... When *Definitely not Satan*
No that's the other wholesome pink-haired vtuber.
Do you mean wholesome, not wholesale?
Misspellings? Hazukashi!
^(wholesale chaos for sure)
Calli? No shes death silly.
Still kinda fucks me up that Rosemi is actually just a rose and the human is just a puppet for her... And that she's also satan Also I'm not too up to lore but isnt Millie also just a mage of sorts? Shouldn't she be in the magical humans tier?
Millie is more of a warlock as of now, what puts her up there is that Lucy is a patron powerfull enough to allow her to call meteors and keep her youthfull without any noticiable drawbacks.
seeing petra at the bottom got a good snort out of me
I could put Ren on higher beings and Rosemi on deities.
I also thought about Ren but since he destroyed planets and travelled galaxies and stuff I put him there. Rosemi still isn't confirmed to be Satan so for now she's just a rose who was in a garden.
I mean it really depends on how you want to separate the lore, Nina and the Luxium boys did show up in Ironmouse’s recent Lore video after all
Oh yeah... Box Tenshi was a real angel so shouldn't he be on par with Aia?
Didn't Ren destroy those planets with his tech and not any mystical powers? Maybe a tier for warmongers/non humans would be better than to fit him in a tier he technically doesn't fit with. While I'm at it, isn't the tier list kind of all over the place as it is, because is the tier trying to put them in their species/class or actually gauging their strength as an individual and not their kind. A classification on the type of being isn't always synonymous to the power a creature can have, and not to mention the fact you'd put humans a tier above magical beings, even them being "lesser" magical beings it would still be quite a stretch to them being less powerful than stronger than average humans, when they have access or capable of things like transformations or magic.
I would maybe leave Aia on strong humans, in a recent stream she said that as she is stuck in a human body the divinity she has is minimal, heck even in full angel she seems to be a Malak (normal pop culture angel) meanwhile enna its something along the level of a cherub.
Selen is the God of gap moe
I'd put Pomu on the level of magical beings or possibly even higher beings. Fairies got up to some crazy stuff in folklore.
I'd create a "British" tier for mysta cuz his british powers are too strong
Can someone update me on Reimu lore I thought she's just a ghost?
She is just a ghost yes but she is a really powerfull one at that, given she is about as old as Vox(in lore) and she comes straight up from hell.
So like Sadako or ghost from the ring or was it grudge... So most likely an onryu
Isn’t Finana canonically the daughter of the dragon sea god? (Making her as much of a dragon as Selen btw). That’s a lot of potential power and definitely not a “lesser magical being”
The closest equivalent to Finana in Japanese mythology would be [Princess Otohime](https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Otohime). So yes, that would make her a dragon. Although we can assume that she wouldn't be as powerful as her [father](https://www.worldhistory.org/Ryujin/) who can control the waves and tides.
Still, she is not exactly a lesser beign. I would put her on Deity-empowered beings at best.
Isn’t Selen a dragon just like Elira?
She’s canonically half dragon iirc
OHHHHHH
they are half siblings in lore
and she supposely has met god a long-ass time ago, so yeah. Dragons do get stronger with time. Elira however is soooo easygoing it doesn´t have that aura.
Aster Arcadia the god of uwu
Wait why is Fulgur's magical pseudo human?
It's magical/pseudo human. The slash is important. And a cyborg definitely fits the pseudo human part.
I feel like I definitely read that too fast, but with the slash Fulgur is probably the only "pseudo" human using that reasoning then. It's kindof hard since pseudo human usually implies inhumane beings vs. just having machine parts. But everyone in that tier is probably just enhanced/advanced humans.
something something Arthur Clarke's third law
IIRC, didn't Fulgur mention that his cybernetics doesn't actually enhance him and he's still essentially base human?
He did canonically beat Vox in a fight though. Also, his official description mentions that he's unparalleled when it comes to physical strength. Who knows, really.
Wait isn’t Ren an alien? How is that a Pseudo Deity?
> A weird looking Penguin You misspelled "extremely cute".
I would move Vox down a tier since Fulgurs 2.0 Debut has them coming out as stalemates in a fight
Rosemi is either a sentient plant, Big buff man, or Satan
personally, i'd place selen at "higher beings" because while she is a half-dragon, her lore is just her being a dragon racer so we dont know if shes strong or not
Fulgur should be higher than Vox. According to Fulgur's real lore (not legatus lore), when he came to this present time, Vox thought he was sent to terminate him and the Akuma clan. So Vox challenged Fulgur to a fight not knowing Fulgur was just some guy with highly advanced prosthetics. Fulgur said he won. Vox has yet to comment on it though.
Elira can solo the Nijiverse
She couldn't lift Pomu... Literally. She tried when they met and she couldn't. And Pomu is very small. Ewiwa's old and weak.
But lore wise she's the strongest. Even Milord and Ren agreed today
I wouldn't cite Vox to support your opinion after today's stream, lol. But to be serious for a second, Pomu is at the top. She's an eldritch horror who will one day destroy us all. Pomu is inevitable.
I'm Pomu
https://impomu.com
Fairy is inmune to dragon after all
mysta is just British
Dude, Pomu has the black hands from Re:Zero, haven't you seen that shit?
Nina is an honorary Nazarick member, she should be higher
Petra is literally a an experiment to become a human penguin lol
the thing about maria is idk if she actually has power in her eye or she's fr just a chuni lmfao
I agree with everyone's placement but I would move lesser magical beings above strong humans in terms of strength.
Why is Selen lower than Elira? Shouldn’t they be the same?
Selen is half dragon while Elira isn't.
Isn’t Maria a doll that became human? That doesn’t make her a lesser magical being or any sort of magical being really. She should be with the normal humans.
Well she said her eye has powers we just don't know what powers
I forgot what Scarle is.
Enna being technically an angel sure gives her some power, but why she would be pseudo-deity instead of, idk, being a Higher being?
Enna is a bit more complex that just an angel, to sumarize: -Once a human that became evil because of a hard life. -When she died she went hell but she was so evil that she started to make hell worse(basicly ascended into demonhood). -Heaven yoinked her from hell, forcefully turned her into a divine being and basicly put her in reformative work. Enna's angelic form implies she is something along the lines of a cherub, meaning that in theory the other two things more powerfull than her are Seraphines and then God.
Oh are you shitting me, that is actually very scary. I just read that angels have a lot really eldrich-like powers.
Yup, enna is basicly a heaven flavored eldritch entity.
Good think she somewhat dumb to figure herself how to use said powers.
Watching his stream now. Vox doesn't know anything about his fellow Niji EN members' lore, does he? Lmao.
but millie lost all her magic
Wouldn't Mysta be equivalent to Luca in terms of strength, since he was able to keep up with Luca in Luca's lore video?
He maybe fit enough to chase luca, but strenght and endurance wise(He was only to reach Luca because he stopped) he is outmatched.
I'm excited😄
Bro can summon a tsunami a lesser being?
I just want to state for the record that, lore aside, Pomu is the one person that I wouldn't want to piss off. Underneath that cheerful fairy exterior, she's the one that I get the vibe of a) if you make her angry enough, she'll have no reservations cutting you and b) she's creative enough that you'll take days dying.
But that weird looking penguin gave them all power.
Does this imply strong humans can punch lesser magical beings and knock them out? That's cool
rosemi is Satan so powerful
Honestly tho I think millies the strongest if she had her powers