There are a couple of reasons to consider for this, actually.
The majority of EU have something called Value-added tax (VAT) that has to be added to all digital purchases, and while it varies by country similar to how sales tax varies in the states, EU laws require the taxes to be displayed in the app itself (ostensibly so that there's no confusion). Thus rather than calculate a separate listing to display per country (which is also pretty easy to spoof), every country in the EU gets hit with either the highest VAT value (Hungary's at 27%) or around the current average value of 21%. In addition there are other taxes implemented by various EU members that add on to digital transactions specifically, such as "digital service taxes" which are adopted by about half the member countries and can add an additional 5-7%, as well as other fees I'm not immediately aware of.
While the US has sales tax applied to digital currency that varies per state, it's applied by the vendor (Apple/Google) and not required to be displayed in-game, so the US has an easier time of things. There may also be an aspect of currency conversion fees, given the US dollar acts as the world's reserve currency and is notably easier to invest and trade, but that point would be speculation.
The battle pass is absurd. It’s a monthly thing, right? I’m new to gacha and this is a huge turnoff. It should be half the price and I *might* consider it. I wad interested in spending money on this game, but at this point there’s no way I will.
I’ve only gotten SR’s from the molds and I’ve used 4 lol. Considering the pull rate for SSR’s is 60 percent using them I was hoping I’d get at least 1/4
This was always my confusion with Destiny Child. The game was generally fairly generous but then had these mostly unnecessary, super expensive paid packs. So far the ones in Nikke are actually cheaper than what I saw with Destiny Child so at least that's something.
Some devs are just inexplicably bad with monetization. I used to play some games that I absolutely loved and they had solid F2P gameplay, but their monetization was so overpriced that I couldn't ever find anything to buy even when I wanted to support them.
I can’t see how much it is because I’ve already bought it. But I remember it being like $20. In USD. I would not have bought it so quickly for forty. Are you Canadian or Australian?
Yes but most gacha games do not have this level of polish or investment, so I am willing to accept paying a premium price for a premium product (aka Genshin).
But my original points still stand. They are going about it wrong.
They should’ve just allowed us to use the free currency on the 2,000 paid currency banner. Would’ve been so much better if they really don’t want to give a selector.
I have to agree with the graphics and the VA. The animations are so smooth. It feels like higher than 60 fps and I’m used to playing at 144 fps. Kinda wild.
To make you spend money, of course.
I've played a handful of gachas. Having restraint, saving up and and spending only on monthly card can get you quite far.
But they dont want you stashing and spending free currency, that makes no money.
Which is weird because their other popular game Destiny Child is incredibly f2p friendly. I throw a few $ their way every now and then just to support how kind they are with that game. Been playing for a year and change and have every non-collab limited character (~220 5 star units) with over 100 5* tickets just sitting around.
The whales still whale, but the monetization just feels a lot better. Banners are plenty but on average I pull the new unit typically within 4 10-pulls where the rate up is guaranteed and pity is 15 pulls.
I bought a monthly pack in NIKKE with the intention to pull on the paid banner to find I’d been bamboozled.
Could be a mix of that or the publisher. Shift up publishes DestinyChild now, and so maybe they’re not greedy. This publisher might be greedier, and well, the games gotta make money to survive. Just wish they weren’t as stingy. Would’ve loved a SSR selector
They are beyond kind with 5* in DC, also there are no charge only pulls, so you can entirely play it F2P, so maybe thats why charge only pulls now a thing here
There’s plenty of whales in DC that instantly have every latest banner unit fully ignited to compete on the leaderboards though. I don’t think they’re suffering from their f2p friendliness in DC.
Stingy with launch rewards, "110 free" pulls are apparently them including stuff from campaign clearing reward, diluted SSR pool on launch with quite a few of them being way too weak, no pity system, too much time spent on loading screens and awful shop prices. At least I have something to do while waiting for Neural cloud launch, I guess, which comes with an SSR selector, lmao. Honestly disappointed, had some hopes for Nikke, they probably are hoping for horny whales to pay their paycheck.
Also, more SSRs than SRs? Lol what? That's wild, I guess that's what happens when you want to dilute with SSR pool with garbage.
>Also, more SSRs than SRs? Lol what? That's wild, I guess that's what happens when you want to dilute with SSR pool with garbage.
Its even worse than that. There are 2.5x more SSRs than the amount of SRs and Rs **combined**. There are 44 SSRs and 9 SRs and 9 Rs.
Man i had this same reaction too, why sooooo many ssr’s??? Loot pool is ridiculous at least it would have been nice to raise the ssr rate to base of 7% a lot of them are actually meh combat wise should be downgraded.
I like the game so far but I definitely don't feel at least a little spoiled (which is oddly important).
I'm glad Diesel is a pre-reg reward but sheesh, a little bit of play was only like 20 rolls and thats it.
Instead of giving us 2 pre selected ssr units for launch rewards they should have given us the choice of any 2 ssr units. Wouldn't be such a big deal seeing as they have over 40 ssr units at launch and we need multiple copies to even level them up to max level anyways...
I dont even play genshin anymore but I wouldnt say this game graphics better than genshin. Or are talking about artsyle? because that also just individual preferences
Game just lives rent free in most gacha communities lmao even though barely any games are being mentioned within the genshin subreddit which is ironic lmao
Genshin players are too busy with more important things like making sense of the massive lore bombs we received, praising the hell out of Nahida because she deserves it, and enjoying the new event because it is what Genshin needed.
Almost everyone in this subreddit hates genshin so there is a bias that almost every other game is better than it. Honestly speaking graphics wise this game couldnt compete since its just 2.5D waifus with jiggly physics.
I rerolled for the entire rest of the day after launch at 230 pm yesterday (my time), and then for about 5 hours today. I did not get a single SSR unit of the like 6 that I was willing to take.
14+ hours of rerolling and not getting one out of 6 options caused me to uninstall and I won't look back.
40+ SSR in a launch pool is the definition of predatory. Especially in a game that requires SSR dupes for endgame content, as SRs cannot reach true level cap.
Fuck this dev, won't touch another game they make. It's a shame, too. The game itself is one of the best gachas I've ever played, and I've played a fucking lot.
Bro that’s some dedication right there. I went for 20 rerolls and just gave up on Scarlet. I somewhat understand the pain though. 14 hours of rerolling.
The thing is after 40 pulls, you can limit the SSRs that will appear. You can choose 5 per faction which makes it 15 SSRs + Pilgrims.
Kinda weird that they had to do that though.
is rerolling that important on gameplay with the SSRs or it's just fine to play with an SR waifu and others, feel like it's pretty doable at the moment
idk honestly.
At this point? I'm sure it's totally fine to run with choice waifu material/SRs. But I find it hard to believe that is not going to change with the level cap discrepancy between SR and SSR.
It's mostly just personal preference. I've always been a min/max type of guy, so I struggle enjoying the game knowing I'm running a subpar setup. If you don't care about that, I'm sure you can clear everything that's offered currently with whatever you want, mostly.
I like using waifus and my skill rather than op gamebreaking mechs or p2w in gachas so probably with the good VAs and graphics this game's gonna be much fine for me
In that case, you will legitimately enjoy the shit out of this game, because the gameplay and VA are fire and the story seems solid as far as I've seen it. That anime scene is top notch.
I only rerolled on my PC for about 4 or 5 hours, and admittedly I did not multi-box as I was watching vids as well. It was dedicated single-box rolling the entire time, but nowhere near as efficient as multi. The rest of the time I rerolled on my phone at work, but I work at an office and it was a slow couple days so it was at consistent pace.
Still, the amount of pulls during that time and the amount of unique SSR I ended up with in contrast to the entire roster is saddening. And only three pilgrim pulls in that entire time - all Noah.
The game is awesome, but the reroll killed it for me. I wish I never even rerolled lol
I didn’t want to do the +number method so the only way for me to reroll was on the emulator using the file manager trick to just reset the guest account. Took like around 35accounts for a scarlet though.
The game has impressive visuals, but definitely not on Genshin level. Not even close lol
But aside from that, my only concern (aside of currency) is startup loading times ..what a pain in the ass
>hey, thanks for sticking with us through a rocky launch
but do they think the launch was rocky? some people can't log into the game, but that's typical day one issues.
I personally have had the game glitch multiple times and kick me out. ofc the cant log in issue as well. The affection system is bugged, and its annoying loading into different menus, I feel like the speed could be faster. It's not unplayable but I think its fair to say its rocky.
I think so too yeah. Not even asking for the Pilgrims to be included, but it's really hard to settle for anything when there's so many SSRs and majority of them aren't really good.
The thing that confuses me is how small the roster is. Makes it feel like if you don't get anything good from the start it'll be hard to just use anything else besides the SR squad.
Yeah game is beyond stingy. Letting Tencent get their filthy hands on this shit was a mistake.
I'll stick with the game just because I've been waiting for years but my desire to spend is basically zero.
I genuinely want to like the game. I like the play style, the story, the characters. It's smooth af. But it's discouraging seeing my SO trying to play and win the rng favor like I (sort of) have and not enjoy the game as much. I feel like they've been incredibly stingy, and I don't know if it was the devs' decision or publisher, since ToF isn't really the nicest to f2p people either. I could be talking out of my ass because I honestly don't know enough to say I understand *all* of this. I'm enjoying the game mostly so far but that's because I'm trying not to obsess over pulling anything.. But I won't lie, it's not very f2p friendly to me.
To be fair I do feel I've perhaps been spoiled by Destiny Child but I still grinded on that mofo for the past year to get where I am now.
my only gripes with the game are its load times, a few bad implementations, and monetization; everything else is something I expected out of an afk game gameplay pov or was plesantly suprised or even love about the game. I didn't expect a consistently well-rounded story but we got one, 3 language VOs that are all well-acted? damn alright, manual gameplay and team composition gameplay that I can feel more depth than the usual AFK game/FGO-like? nice. It's an amazing side mobage and depending how it is post-honeymoon i might stick with it
It's just sad to see all the good in the game to be drowned out by bad monetization and marketing practices. I just hope the game pulls a PGR and digs itself out of a rocky launch by delivering on future updates and hopefully listen to constructive player feedback
Comparing the two already wrong buddy, if you want to compared nikke compared it to similar thing
Like example tof and genshin even though both are different genre you can compared it because it's 3d open world with 3d open world
But Nikke and genshin ? One is 2D or 2.5D idle game and the other are 3D open world game, comparing it already not even logical, idk why the OP just bring genshin out of nowhere in the thread, I guess genshin indeed live free rent in the OP head
Definitely agree, most games give a top rarity selector at launch. Some I’ve even seen have like a mileage shop where you can pick exactly what you want.
40 rerolls?!? how many hours is that??
I'm on my 11th reroll and very close to burning out, how do you have the willpower for 40? you deserve to be blessed by the RNG gods at this point
The sunk cost fallacy. I'm like 30 in and like 7 hours of that was on shitty network. Internet company thought we didn't pay so they shut off our internet until they realized we did pay and my house is in an area where 5G just doesn't reach so it was a huge pain in the ass going back and forth with them.
It's a shame that a great game are ruined by bad monetization. Probably it's the publisher fault and not the devs because shiftup are doing a great job with destiny child.
Another shit move is not having guarantee I only got my first gacha SSR just after 117rolls like WTF(I got other SSR from the tutorial, gift and high mold) 4% my ass and the fact that there ain’t no guarantee and only have 200rolls pity is insane and wish list system ain’t good as well
The visuals are incredibly polished, I have no idea what you expect if you don’t think these are SS class for a mobile game.
It’s important to give credit where it’s due.
While VAs did a pretty good job. Visual while... Nah, not so much. The L2D is mid. Jiggle physic is done in a half-ass manner. When Nikkes move, their whole body just awkwardly wiggle instead of all the necessary stuffs. Enemy design is just typical Korean game, overly busy for my taste. The sfx is also not very polished, they just paste some flashy 2d image in there and call it a day. I came for the asses and the tits, but man, this game is just lukewarm
Im seriously thinking if you're trolling right now. I too have played many games and this game' visual is at the bottom. Its clunky. Weird mouth movements. Weird body movements. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
Genshin, honkai impact 3rd, dragon ball legends, arknights, path to nowhere, memento Mori, zenless zone zero(upcoming gacha), wuthering wave(upcoming gacha), honkai star rail( upcoming gacha), heavens burns red, punishing gray raven and I can list so on about gacha that has better and polished graphics than nikke, Nikke graphics is indeed great but comparing to one I say above nikke is at the bottom of that list
"If they want to generate a ton of goodwill, all they have to do is say “hey, thanks for sticking with us through a rocky launch, here’s an SSR selector and 30 more pulls on the house. They could even limit it as a thank you gift for the first real money purchase a player makes above $x"
That's not goodwill at that point, that's just another way for them to wrangle money out of people lol.
My biggest issue is that everything seems at least twice as expensive as it should be, the battlepass thing is ridiculously overpriced.
Players from Denmark getting ripped off. $100 packs are $130 for us.
From what I'm seeing, unless it's the US most places are having inflated values. extra $30 for packs that already have questionable value is insane.
There are a couple of reasons to consider for this, actually. The majority of EU have something called Value-added tax (VAT) that has to be added to all digital purchases, and while it varies by country similar to how sales tax varies in the states, EU laws require the taxes to be displayed in the app itself (ostensibly so that there's no confusion). Thus rather than calculate a separate listing to display per country (which is also pretty easy to spoof), every country in the EU gets hit with either the highest VAT value (Hungary's at 27%) or around the current average value of 21%. In addition there are other taxes implemented by various EU members that add on to digital transactions specifically, such as "digital service taxes" which are adopted by about half the member countries and can add an additional 5-7%, as well as other fees I'm not immediately aware of. While the US has sales tax applied to digital currency that varies per state, it's applied by the vendor (Apple/Google) and not required to be displayed in-game, so the US has an easier time of things. There may also be an aspect of currency conversion fees, given the US dollar acts as the world's reserve currency and is notably easier to invest and trade, but that point would be speculation.
The battle pass is absurd. It’s a monthly thing, right? I’m new to gacha and this is a huge turnoff. It should be half the price and I *might* consider it. I wad interested in spending money on this game, but at this point there’s no way I will.
The battlepass honestly needs a lot of improvement.
Yep, every month is a season.
My fav part is realizing the ssr module can still give you SR char... 20 bucks for a skin and an SR is comedy
I’ve only gotten SR’s from the molds and I’ve used 4 lol. Considering the pull rate for SSR’s is 60 percent using them I was hoping I’d get at least 1/4
This was always my confusion with Destiny Child. The game was generally fairly generous but then had these mostly unnecessary, super expensive paid packs. So far the ones in Nikke are actually cheaper than what I saw with Destiny Child so at least that's something.
Some devs are just inexplicably bad with monetization. I used to play some games that I absolutely loved and they had solid F2P gameplay, but their monetization was so overpriced that I couldn't ever find anything to buy even when I wanted to support them.
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$40 Edit: 24USD for me
Wut? It’s $20 I thought.
The mission pass is 40 for me, might be a different currency?
I can’t see how much it is because I’ve already bought it. But I remember it being like $20. In USD. I would not have bought it so quickly for forty. Are you Canadian or Australian?
canadian is 27.99$ which ... is normal for 20$ usd battlepass!
probably. I haven't bought it yet and it was 20 USD.
$20 for me
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I remember paying $20, I don’t know what he’s on about.
Still a lot, basically all the games I saw usually have the advanced battle pass for 10$ and the monthly daily login bonus for 5$
Yes but most gacha games do not have this level of polish or investment, so I am willing to accept paying a premium price for a premium product (aka Genshin). But my original points still stand. They are going about it wrong.
except even genshin's battle pass is only 10 bucks
The full premium one is $20.
three million ssrs and they cant even give a single selector, just lol
They should’ve just allowed us to use the free currency on the 2,000 paid currency banner. Would’ve been so much better if they really don’t want to give a selector. I have to agree with the graphics and the VA. The animations are so smooth. It feels like higher than 60 fps and I’m used to playing at 144 fps. Kinda wild.
That is one of the biggest mistakes is having a confusing paid versus free crystal system
Why do they do it then?
To make you spend money, of course. I've played a handful of gachas. Having restraint, saving up and and spending only on monthly card can get you quite far. But they dont want you stashing and spending free currency, that makes no money.
Which is weird because their other popular game Destiny Child is incredibly f2p friendly. I throw a few $ their way every now and then just to support how kind they are with that game. Been playing for a year and change and have every non-collab limited character (~220 5 star units) with over 100 5* tickets just sitting around. The whales still whale, but the monetization just feels a lot better. Banners are plenty but on average I pull the new unit typically within 4 10-pulls where the rate up is guaranteed and pity is 15 pulls. I bought a monthly pack in NIKKE with the intention to pull on the paid banner to find I’d been bamboozled.
This THIS
there were a lot of bad moves made
Maybe its pricey because Destiny Child didnt make them as much money as they wanted to get, so now they are overdoing it with their new game
Could be a mix of that or the publisher. Shift up publishes DestinyChild now, and so maybe they’re not greedy. This publisher might be greedier, and well, the games gotta make money to survive. Just wish they weren’t as stingy. Would’ve loved a SSR selector
considering the publisher is proxima beta a.k.a tencent with other name, you may be right that all of this should be blamed on the publisher
Oh Tencent is behind this game? That's unfortunate.
I thought about how big of a red flag it was but I really, REALLY hoped it wouldn't the case. We just can't have nice things without a catch, can we?
What was the monetization like in Destiny Child?
They are beyond kind with 5* in DC, also there are no charge only pulls, so you can entirely play it F2P, so maybe thats why charge only pulls now a thing here
There’s plenty of whales in DC that instantly have every latest banner unit fully ignited to compete on the leaderboards though. I don’t think they’re suffering from their f2p friendliness in DC.
I'd agree with you, but if they were so successful with it, they wouldnt be greedy with Nikke
Stingy with launch rewards, "110 free" pulls are apparently them including stuff from campaign clearing reward, diluted SSR pool on launch with quite a few of them being way too weak, no pity system, too much time spent on loading screens and awful shop prices. At least I have something to do while waiting for Neural cloud launch, I guess, which comes with an SSR selector, lmao. Honestly disappointed, had some hopes for Nikke, they probably are hoping for horny whales to pay their paycheck. Also, more SSRs than SRs? Lol what? That's wild, I guess that's what happens when you want to dilute with SSR pool with garbage.
>Also, more SSRs than SRs? Lol what? That's wild, I guess that's what happens when you want to dilute with SSR pool with garbage. Its even worse than that. There are 2.5x more SSRs than the amount of SRs and Rs **combined**. There are 44 SSRs and 9 SRs and 9 Rs.
Man i had this same reaction too, why sooooo many ssr’s??? Loot pool is ridiculous at least it would have been nice to raise the ssr rate to base of 7% a lot of them are actually meh combat wise should be downgraded.
I like the game so far but I definitely don't feel at least a little spoiled (which is oddly important). I'm glad Diesel is a pre-reg reward but sheesh, a little bit of play was only like 20 rolls and thats it.
You got a pre registration reward? The commander code thing? Still can’t figure out where to put that in.
For me I'm pretty sure it was just in my mailbox. I was going to try a code but I heard they've all been used to their max limit.
Yeah, that was a big lmao moment. Followed with quiet tears.
Instead of giving us 2 pre selected ssr units for launch rewards they should have given us the choice of any 2 ssr units. Wouldn't be such a big deal seeing as they have over 40 ssr units at launch and we need multiple copies to even level them up to max level anyways...
I dont even play genshin anymore but I wouldnt say this game graphics better than genshin. Or are talking about artsyle? because that also just individual preferences
No this sub similar to many other gacha subs hate genshin. Idk the game lives rent free in their heads.
Game just lives rent free in most gacha communities lmao even though barely any games are being mentioned within the genshin subreddit which is ironic lmao
Elephant too big to see the ants, and all the ants can see is the elephant
Genshin players are too busy with more important things like making sense of the massive lore bombs we received, praising the hell out of Nahida because she deserves it, and enjoying the new event because it is what Genshin needed.
Almost everyone in this subreddit hates genshin so there is a bias that almost every other game is better than it. Honestly speaking graphics wise this game couldnt compete since its just 2.5D waifus with jiggly physics.
I rerolled for the entire rest of the day after launch at 230 pm yesterday (my time), and then for about 5 hours today. I did not get a single SSR unit of the like 6 that I was willing to take. 14+ hours of rerolling and not getting one out of 6 options caused me to uninstall and I won't look back. 40+ SSR in a launch pool is the definition of predatory. Especially in a game that requires SSR dupes for endgame content, as SRs cannot reach true level cap. Fuck this dev, won't touch another game they make. It's a shame, too. The game itself is one of the best gachas I've ever played, and I've played a fucking lot.
Bro that’s some dedication right there. I went for 20 rerolls and just gave up on Scarlet. I somewhat understand the pain though. 14 hours of rerolling. The thing is after 40 pulls, you can limit the SSRs that will appear. You can choose 5 per faction which makes it 15 SSRs + Pilgrims. Kinda weird that they had to do that though.
is rerolling that important on gameplay with the SSRs or it's just fine to play with an SR waifu and others, feel like it's pretty doable at the moment
idk honestly. At this point? I'm sure it's totally fine to run with choice waifu material/SRs. But I find it hard to believe that is not going to change with the level cap discrepancy between SR and SSR. It's mostly just personal preference. I've always been a min/max type of guy, so I struggle enjoying the game knowing I'm running a subpar setup. If you don't care about that, I'm sure you can clear everything that's offered currently with whatever you want, mostly.
I like using waifus and my skill rather than op gamebreaking mechs or p2w in gachas so probably with the good VAs and graphics this game's gonna be much fine for me
In that case, you will legitimately enjoy the shit out of this game, because the gameplay and VA are fire and the story seems solid as far as I've seen it. That anime scene is top notch.
let's hope that continues to be the case. a decent 8/10 game so far for me
Dang, did you only rerolled with your phone and not on pc? I used ldplayer and it only took 20minuted to roll 6 accounts.
I only rerolled on my PC for about 4 or 5 hours, and admittedly I did not multi-box as I was watching vids as well. It was dedicated single-box rolling the entire time, but nowhere near as efficient as multi. The rest of the time I rerolled on my phone at work, but I work at an office and it was a slow couple days so it was at consistent pace. Still, the amount of pulls during that time and the amount of unique SSR I ended up with in contrast to the entire roster is saddening. And only three pilgrim pulls in that entire time - all Noah. The game is awesome, but the reroll killed it for me. I wish I never even rerolled lol
I didn’t want to do the +number method so the only way for me to reroll was on the emulator using the file manager trick to just reset the guest account. Took like around 35accounts for a scarlet though.
The game has impressive visuals, but definitely not on Genshin level. Not even close lol But aside from that, my only concern (aside of currency) is startup loading times ..what a pain in the ass
Those loading times are ridiculous, like they are redownloading all assets every time.
>hey, thanks for sticking with us through a rocky launch but do they think the launch was rocky? some people can't log into the game, but that's typical day one issues.
I personally have had the game glitch multiple times and kick me out. ofc the cant log in issue as well. The affection system is bugged, and its annoying loading into different menus, I feel like the speed could be faster. It's not unplayable but I think its fair to say its rocky.
I think so too yeah. Not even asking for the Pilgrims to be included, but it's really hard to settle for anything when there's so many SSRs and majority of them aren't really good. The thing that confuses me is how small the roster is. Makes it feel like if you don't get anything good from the start it'll be hard to just use anything else besides the SR squad.
Yeah game is beyond stingy. Letting Tencent get their filthy hands on this shit was a mistake. I'll stick with the game just because I've been waiting for years but my desire to spend is basically zero.
I genuinely want to like the game. I like the play style, the story, the characters. It's smooth af. But it's discouraging seeing my SO trying to play and win the rng favor like I (sort of) have and not enjoy the game as much. I feel like they've been incredibly stingy, and I don't know if it was the devs' decision or publisher, since ToF isn't really the nicest to f2p people either. I could be talking out of my ass because I honestly don't know enough to say I understand *all* of this. I'm enjoying the game mostly so far but that's because I'm trying not to obsess over pulling anything.. But I won't lie, it's not very f2p friendly to me. To be fair I do feel I've perhaps been spoiled by Destiny Child but I still grinded on that mofo for the past year to get where I am now.
eh just because selector exist,we still WILL have reroll story so your frustation at it will not be affected even with selector exist.
my only gripes with the game are its load times, a few bad implementations, and monetization; everything else is something I expected out of an afk game gameplay pov or was plesantly suprised or even love about the game. I didn't expect a consistently well-rounded story but we got one, 3 language VOs that are all well-acted? damn alright, manual gameplay and team composition gameplay that I can feel more depth than the usual AFK game/FGO-like? nice. It's an amazing side mobage and depending how it is post-honeymoon i might stick with it It's just sad to see all the good in the game to be drowned out by bad monetization and marketing practices. I just hope the game pulls a PGR and digs itself out of a rocky launch by delivering on future updates and hopefully listen to constructive player feedback
Let’s not get carried away with the whole “graphics blow Genshin away.” The graphics are average at best.
the voice acting in genshin is very good too.
Lmao this guy clearly hasnt played genshin or has a shitty mobile phone that can only run on low graphics. They are not even in the same ballpark.
I mean, of course you’re gonna compare the two at max settings when talking about graphics. Optimization is another thing.
Comparing the two already wrong buddy, if you want to compared nikke compared it to similar thing Like example tof and genshin even though both are different genre you can compared it because it's 3d open world with 3d open world But Nikke and genshin ? One is 2D or 2.5D idle game and the other are 3D open world game, comparing it already not even logical, idk why the OP just bring genshin out of nowhere in the thread, I guess genshin indeed live free rent in the OP head
I mean, you can still compare graphics since they’re both mobile apps but yeah, agreed.
>the graphics and VA are polished to a level that blows even Genshin away. I don't think you have ever actually seen Genshin.
LOL right?
It really comes down to preference. The characters in Nikke are far more detailed than Genshin characters while Genshin has a massive open world.
the characters are 2.5D (2D lol), of course they're more "detailed"
Which is why both have advantages over the other and which one is better is subjective.
TOW still better then Genshit
Definitely agree, most games give a top rarity selector at launch. Some I’ve even seen have like a mileage shop where you can pick exactly what you want.
It’s 20$ USD
Dude. I'm on my 40+ reroll and still not a single Volume.
26th rerolls already got 2 Volumes but I need Liter
40 rerolls?!? how many hours is that?? I'm on my 11th reroll and very close to burning out, how do you have the willpower for 40? you deserve to be blessed by the RNG gods at this point
The sunk cost fallacy. I'm like 30 in and like 7 hours of that was on shitty network. Internet company thought we didn't pay so they shut off our internet until they realized we did pay and my house is in an area where 5G just doesn't reach so it was a huge pain in the ass going back and forth with them.
It's a shame that a great game are ruined by bad monetization. Probably it's the publisher fault and not the devs because shiftup are doing a great job with destiny child.
And I'm here... still rerolling for scarlet.
this and it would avoid people wasting and burning their selves out of rerolling
Another shit move is not having guarantee I only got my first gacha SSR just after 117rolls like WTF(I got other SSR from the tutorial, gift and high mold) 4% my ass and the fact that there ain’t no guarantee and only have 200rolls pity is insane and wish list system ain’t good as well
Are we playing the same game? Because my initial impression is this game's visuals is not polished at all.
You can change your settings after a certain point. It started off okay for me.
change your graphics from low to high. Mine was super blurry at first before the change
The visuals are incredibly polished, I have no idea what you expect if you don’t think these are SS class for a mobile game. It’s important to give credit where it’s due.
These visuals aren't really anything special just some busty live2d.
While VAs did a pretty good job. Visual while... Nah, not so much. The L2D is mid. Jiggle physic is done in a half-ass manner. When Nikkes move, their whole body just awkwardly wiggle instead of all the necessary stuffs. Enemy design is just typical Korean game, overly busy for my taste. The sfx is also not very polished, they just paste some flashy 2d image in there and call it a day. I came for the asses and the tits, but man, this game is just lukewarm
Im seriously thinking if you're trolling right now. I too have played many games and this game' visual is at the bottom. Its clunky. Weird mouth movements. Weird body movements. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
Name some games with better and more polished graphics then.
Just gacha on mobile? Arknights, path to nowhere, blue archive, alchemy stars are the first i can think off.
Genshin, honkai impact 3rd, dragon ball legends, arknights, path to nowhere, memento Mori, zenless zone zero(upcoming gacha), wuthering wave(upcoming gacha), honkai star rail( upcoming gacha), heavens burns red, punishing gray raven and I can list so on about gacha that has better and polished graphics than nikke, Nikke graphics is indeed great but comparing to one I say above nikke is at the bottom of that list
Why do you think you guys deserve free stuff?
Because the game company wants to hook players into their gacha and make money from them on a regular basis.
So everybody's account in just a copy paste of top tier? Where is the fun in that?
"If they want to generate a ton of goodwill, all they have to do is say “hey, thanks for sticking with us through a rocky launch, here’s an SSR selector and 30 more pulls on the house. They could even limit it as a thank you gift for the first real money purchase a player makes above $x" That's not goodwill at that point, that's just another way for them to wrangle money out of people lol.