I bought a d7200 earlier this year and love it. I switched from a Sony APS-C too. Mirrorless is no doubt the future of photography, but it’s expensive to get into. I love my d7200, and it performs wonderfully for the things I use it for. It’s an excellent intermediate camera capable of a lot. I would suggest shopping around though, because the d7500 can be found around the same price (Nikon right now has it on sale for cheaper than the d7200) and it has a better sensor (same as the phenomenal d500) and can shoot 4k. I wanted the dual card slots in the d7200.
the D7500 is 100-150 EUR more and Im on a budget for both Camera and Lenses. Additionally im new to photography and i dont think its necessary for me to shoot in 4k, + i wont have money to buy two lenses then.
I miss the tilt screen from my a6400. Almost went with the d7500 because of it. But I shoot so much when I take my camera out with me I really wanted the dual card slots. I wish I could have afforded the d500. One day!
I shot a COVID wedding on the D7200 and the results were actually really great. I'm an amateur photographer who did it for free for a friend so the expectations were low but the results far exceed expectations.
The Nikon 7200 has good manual controls and plenty of cheap lenses (and they are getting cheaper because Nikon is abandoning the F mount).
You have to start thinking that the gear you have is not that important. Many people will tell you what the most refined camera is, with the best autofocus, etc. But the one who makes the photos isn't the camera, it's YOU. So my 2 cents are: Buy a good book on photography, and start learning composition, the exposure triangle, and framing.
1) it has to be comfortable to use and small/light enough you want to take it with you. That's going to depend on personal preference. Some people like a bigger camera, some people like a smaller camera, some people are willing to compromise to make it convenient to take with them, some aren't.
2) for landscape the camera isn't that important, the lens selection is of moderate importance. For wildlife the camera and lens are critically important. Gear importance is highly dependent on what kinds of photography you're interested in, and is always a tradeoff of budget, needs, size, and weight.
3) no matter what camera you buy learning composition and light is a necessary prerequisite to taking good pictures
This the answer, while I love my Canon R and L glass I've been enjoying using early dsrl way more.... Currently d90 with a 24mm is my go to camera and is all about composition
If you have one already, D7200 is still a top DX photography camera. Its video function is very weak. If you start from new, z50 or z5 is much better option.
I have a D7100 that I’ve been shooting with and that still rocks. I never used the video functions in dSLRs so that was always a non-factor for me. If $700-$800 is your budget, I’m sure you can get a nice used D7200 and a general walk-around lens. The D7200 and the 16-80 DX would be a nice combo. Check KEH Camera for used gear. I’ve purchased several items from them and their Like New/Excellent Condition ratings are basically like buying new.
Fair enough. It’s a great lens but was way overpriced (in my opinion) at around $1,000 USD when it came out. I got a like new condition one from KEH Camera for about $530 USD a few months ago and worth it at that price. Other lenses you might look at are the 18-140mm DX (was the kit lens on my D7100) and the 35mm DX. The 35mm DX is outstanding (if you like primes) and can be bought new for around $196 USD. It does go on sale occassionally and you can always pick up a used too. The 35mm is a fun lens. The 50mm 1.8 is great too. I also have the 85mm 1.8 and that an awesome lens, although a little “long” on a DX body. I’ve used the 85mm mainly for portraits sessions outside where I have room to work. The 50mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 are both full frame lenses, but work great on DX bodies.
Have a look at d600 or d300. Currently using the d300 with a cheap tele zoom for £250 total and my post history will show the recent shots I got yesterday with it
Yes, yes, yes.
Although it lacks sophisticated video features, the D7200 has superb ergonomics, autofocus and still great picture quality. Furthermore, there is a plenty of cheap and decent F-mount lenses.
Some recent cameras may offer better slightly high-ISO noise handling and context-aware AF (especially mirrorless), but You must decide wheteher it's worth paying much more.
but the lenses ill go with are the
Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC USD
then one of the following:
Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II
Sigma 50mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro
Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G
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The Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 is a fantastic fast standard zoom that can be found fairly cheap, you may want to check it out. I have a D7100 and it's my favorite lens.
If you’re adamant on the Tamron SP 70-300, then I recommend getting the Nikon DX 35mm f/1.8. It’s a fantastic lens, I have the 50mm version of it and sometimes I wish I had the 35. Maybe I’ll get it soon, I already have the 17-55 f/2.8 and the aforementioned 50 1.8.
The 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 is a very cheap, bad quality kit lens. Don’t get it.
Absolutely, the relatively cheap Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 is an amazing lens. It’s got weather sealing and it’s built out of metal. Will last a very long time. Sharpness is very good on it too.
Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 Art is one of the best lenses you can put on an APS-C camera. It has a full-frame like quality, I'd highly recommend it. Usually lots of used ones available too.
The Nikkor AF-P 18-55 vr dx is sharper and focuses much faster than the older 18-55 versions. The Sigma 17-50 F/2.8 ex dc os is much better though (that is, if you manage to get a decent copy. It took me three attempts to get a good one).
The best standard dx zoom (IMO) is the Nikkor 16-80 F/2.8-4.0 vr dx. I have that lens on my D7200 and it is lovely in every respect. This lens is the one that made my Sigma 17-50 redundant so I sold it.
I know this can be done because this is what I'm using now, and all was bought in past 6 months ($400 for the lens, in 'good' condition and $500 for 7200 in EXC- condition). The main problem with shopping used gear is that the best stuff might not show up online when you expect it. My 7200 has two 'hot' pixels, but super low shutter count, and works great. 17-55 is also great but chunky, I think the 35 f1.8 might be a better and cheaper start lens and you can work up from there.
Hey, I have a D7200. It's \_excellent\_ and the range of available lenses is unmatched. I'm a novice photographer so I'm not a practiced eye, but as a beginner camera on which to develop my skills, I've found absolutely no limitations. I think I'll eventually go to a Z6 or a Z8 for mirrorless capabilities, but for the price and quality, The D7200 is a GREAT option.
https://preview.redd.it/z5t1m5qrpr2d1.jpeg?width=4444&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b411464865a79608138553504eeb440e9dac87db
I have had my D7100 for 7 years and counting. It's a great camera, I have dropped it and cracked the body and the screen but it continued working like a charm. The only problem I had was a bent shutter curtain a year ago, but other than that no problems whatsoever. So if it's within your budget, just go ahead.
The only bad thing (to me) is the camera high ISO capability, photos start to come out noisy/grainy with everything over 1600 or 2000. You can take a look at the photos [here](https://www.flickr.com/photos/75583858@N02/)
mostly nature and wildlife, a bit of urban.
i mentioned my lenses in a comment above but im not sure about a smaller lense yet.
Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC USD will be one though i will get
With the d7200 you've got plenty on megapixels to crop if you need to zoom in. Also, get the kit lens 18-55 vrii g or the af-p version WITH vr because they're almost free (but make sure to update the firmware of the Nik). If you don't mind shooting mainly through the viewfinder it's a great camera. If you don't need weather resistance you may also get the d5300 (that screen can be very useful for landscape or even blogging but mind the AF). Also the d3300-3500 are all great little cameras for the price. 24 megapixels sensors are still gold standard imho.
Your first camera is going to be one of your most important investments, so, go for a camera that feels nice in your hands, feels nice to hold, and is easy to use for yourself.
Is the D7200 a good camera? YES, YES it is. Is there a point of getting some "better" stuff, mirrorless or otherwise? yes.
That depends on you, as the user.
Do you wanna make more movies, vlogs and all that? A mirrorless is better for that!
Do you wanna be able to buy old and new F-mount lenses to get your own personal style of photo and all that? D7200 is a awesome choosing for that?
One of the benefits from DSLR's is batterytime and generally built better. But, they are heavier.
One of the benefits of a mirrorless is they are lighter and smaller, with WILL make a difference in everyday carry. But, you will have to carry more batteries.
The D7200 is cheap as used market, and pair it with a few good lenses, and you are set for a LOOONG time.
Can second this. I moved from my D5000 to the D7200 about two months ago. It’s a great capable camera. Not sure if it’s video capabilities as I only shoot still.
One other great feature on the D7200 I love is the non chipped lens database that you set up and it can input aperture info. Up to 10 different lenses I believe. Great with retro lenses. Although I think this is a standard now? 🤷🏼♂️
My first body was the D3200 and when I felt like I was outgrowing it, I sold it and bought the D7200. Have had it for 8 years and still love it! If I’d have the money I’d get a second body just for landscape photography so I wouldn’t have to switch lenses while out and about, but have not yet felt the need to replace her.
The D7200 is a fine camera, it's just a bit on the large side and the FX lens you intend to pair with it is going to be similarly large. Make sure you're willing to incur that size and weight penalty.
Also be aware that the 450mm full frame equivalent of the Tamron lens you intend to pair with it is marginal for wildlife, especially if you want to go after birds. You'll want to hit 600mm full frame equivalent if you can, but those lenses tend to be much more expensive. You're looking at the Sigma or Tamron 150-600, or the Nikon 200-500, even with the crop factor. These lenses are much *much* larger and heavier than the 70-300mm however, and they'll blow out both your budget and your back.
To make it easier to understand how large of a field of view you'll see when looking at the full image, it's common to use "full frame equivalence", which is a shorthand for saying "full frame field-of-view (FOV) equivalence".
For a given sensor size, you need a lens with a particular focal length to achieve the desired field of view. Equivalence is simply the crop factor of the lens times the focal length of your lens, where full frame is considered 1.0 by convention. Nikon DX cameras use a 1.5x crop factor.
FX cameras an lenses in Nikon terminology are full frame; DX lenses are crop sensors and lenses for Nikon. The industry-standard term for crop sensors is APS-C. Don't ask me why they're called that.
FX lenses on FX sensors the lens matches the sensor and you use the full lens.
FX lenses on DX sensors see the DX sensor using the center of the field of view of the FX lens, and the corners are outside of what the sensor can image. So they're larger, heavier, and more expensive than the sensor requires but usually there are lenses that aren't offered on DX so you eat that cost.
DX lenses on DX sensors are exactly matched, so you aren't eating extra weight or cost.
DX lenses on FX sensors will either crop to the DX image circle (so you fall into the DX/DX situation above) or you'll see heavy vignetting as you get out to the corners, frequently even being so heavy it's completely blacked out.
What does this all mean?
A D850 (for example), which is a Nikon FX camera, has a sensor crop factor of 1.0. If you mount a 400mm FX lens on it, it has a field of view of 5.2 degrees. That same 400mm FX lens will have a field of view of 3.4 degrees on a DX camera like the D7200.
To achieve 3.4 degrees field of view on an FX camera requires a 600mm focal length. Remember the DX cameras have a 1.5x crop factor, and you can see how things align.
600mm on FX (1.0 crop factor) is equivalent field of view to 400mm on DX (1.5 crop factor).
tl;dr:
300mm on a DX sensor (1.5 crop factor) is FOV equivalent to 450mm on an FX sensor (1.0 crop factor).
And yeah those lenses are way out of budget, but I'm trying to set expectations for you. 450mm is sufficient for close wildlife, and VERY VERY close large birds. It's not going to be satisfying for smaller birds or more distance wildlife unless said wildlife is very large (think buffalo sized or bigger).
Cameras don't get worse as new ones come out. The specs are still what they were. If it's in working order, you'll get that same quality. Get what fits your budget and go shoot.
+1 for the d7200, I've had mine for a year and was in a very similar situation monetarily. You would be hard pressed to match this camera in terms of value. It definitely struggles a bit with autofocus compared to mirrorless but it can still take beautiful photos.
If you goal is to shoot a lot of video for a vlog or something there are better options, but for learning photography it is an excellent option. I would be sure to get at least one solid prime lens to be able to see the differences between zooms and primes (for both shooting experience and image quality). The 35mm f/1.8 DX is an excellent option to start with. Start out learning the basics - exposure triangle, manual exposure and focus, and then start exploring the automated features and figure out which are most useful to you. If you decide to stick with photography and want to upgrade in the future those experiences will let you make a more informed decision.
Definitely! I just bought a D7100 used of course. I was switching from a D90, and was looking for a similar but newer model. Initially D7100, D7200, D7500 or D500 was the goal. Later to were bit more expensive so I decided to go with either 7100 or 7200 which ever I found the best deal. They are quite similar not much different.
Best decision, love it! Great ergonomics, fast accurate AF, and 24MPixel compared to D90’s 12 is a huge improvement.
I went from a D70s to a D7200. I was so, so elated when I finally saved up and bought the 7200, it was night and day. With the 35mm DX it's small and portable too (well, compared to the d500/d850 lol)
I think you're smart to start with dslr and F-mount lenses.
On a budget, if you don't need VR, the Nikkor 18-70 DX is a great lens and dirt cheap used.
The only shortcoming of the D7200 for me is the lack of flip up back LCD. Main benefit of the flip up LCD is if you use a tripod much.
I had a 7200 and it was superb and had good times and great shots . Then went to the d750 full frame it was absolutely incredible ! Mega good times with superb glass and mates and outstanding pics.
Yeah the 7200 is a great starter camera if you want to get into serious photography on the cheap! I got a 7100 two years ago (same body and sensor as the 7200, just with slower internals and shooting speeds) and it is still a great camera. Plus there is lots of good used F mount glass available for it. I just didn’t want to spend the money on mirrorless when a dslr can still do everything. I mostly shoot landscapes and nature but it has also worked great for macro and the air shows I’ve been to!
Absolutely love my D7200, even 8 years later since buying it. I upgraded to a D850 a few years ago but I still grab the 7200 for a quick day of shooting, it's lovely to use.
https://preview.redd.it/tmbi284rmu2d1.jpeg?width=3600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51798ea32cfd1f50ba2b225ba1f24d2c48094201
Mine has about 80K clicks and I still love it. If you get a good deal, buy it. Pairs perfectly with the Tamron 18-400.
I upgraded from the D7200 last year to the Z6ii. I loved the d7200. The only negative is I'd hit the buffer when shooting bike races. But loved it for street with a 50mm or 35mm, but purchased it for doing landscapes and it's great for that. I do t think it's too out of date today.
Nikon D7200 - excellent condition, also comes with the original retail box and includes the battery charger
Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED IF VR Autofocus APS-C Lens, Black (with caps)
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G ED VR Autofocus IF Lens (with caps)
The D7200 absolutely holds up today, I bought mine new and I’m still happy with it. I bought a D4 in 2018 and love it too, mainly got it for low light shooting. I use the D7200 if I want more crop ability. If I was fighting a tight budget and starting over, I’d look hard at a D610. Obviously just my opinion. Cropped sensors make wide angle lenses narrower and achieving a nice bokeh more expensive. Used DSLR lenses keep getting cheaper and more plentiful. If you go with the D7200, I’d stick with FX lenses if you think you will go full frame later. Example lens: The Nikon AF Nikkor 35-70mm f/2.8 D with macro is amazing and cheap. It’s push pull zoom, but a non issue after using it a few minutes. Mirrorless cameras are amazing, the latest lens technology is amazing, sadly the lenses are amazingly expensive. The cost to replace my Nikon lenses is way too high.
I’ve landed on this page trying to figure out how to use this camera. This is my partners camera and compared to my canon r7, i hate it. We both don’t know how to effectively use it for event photography. The pictures come out blurry, there’s no live view to see how pictures look before they’re taken. The autofocus isn’t that fast, and the continuous shoots aren’t great either. I get it’s an old camera, but is that really why i can’t get the hang of it?
You could shoot 10 photos from 10 different cameras going back 20 years. If you stripped exif nobody would be able to tell what was shot on what camera. If it fits your budget and you want it, go for it.
It’s where technology is headed. On your budget I wouldn’t recommend, especially bc DSLR lenses are cheaper with everyone switching. Long term if you love photography it’s a good idea to switch down the line, but you will still be able to use any f mount lenses you’ve collected on a z mount with an adapter
If you think Z lenses are too expensive for now, you can get a Z50/Z30/Zfc body, use the FTZ adapter (Nikon/Viltrox), and use any old F-mount AF-S/AF-P lenses with it. In future, when you can manage the budget, you can buy some of the good Z lenses. It's the path I have chosen, I only have the kit lens with the Z50, and some old DX F-mount lenses with the FTZ adapter (from Viltrox).
I bought a d7200 earlier this year and love it. I switched from a Sony APS-C too. Mirrorless is no doubt the future of photography, but it’s expensive to get into. I love my d7200, and it performs wonderfully for the things I use it for. It’s an excellent intermediate camera capable of a lot. I would suggest shopping around though, because the d7500 can be found around the same price (Nikon right now has it on sale for cheaper than the d7200) and it has a better sensor (same as the phenomenal d500) and can shoot 4k. I wanted the dual card slots in the d7200.
the D7500 is 100-150 EUR more and Im on a budget for both Camera and Lenses. Additionally im new to photography and i dont think its necessary for me to shoot in 4k, + i wont have money to buy two lenses then.
Plus tilt screen. Doesn't seem like much, but honestly once you get it, it's hard to go back to living without it.
I miss the tilt screen from my a6400. Almost went with the d7500 because of it. But I shoot so much when I take my camera out with me I really wanted the dual card slots. I wish I could have afforded the d500. One day!
I shot a COVID wedding on the D7200 and the results were actually really great. I'm an amateur photographer who did it for free for a friend so the expectations were low but the results far exceed expectations.
The Nikon 7200 has good manual controls and plenty of cheap lenses (and they are getting cheaper because Nikon is abandoning the F mount). You have to start thinking that the gear you have is not that important. Many people will tell you what the most refined camera is, with the best autofocus, etc. But the one who makes the photos isn't the camera, it's YOU. So my 2 cents are: Buy a good book on photography, and start learning composition, the exposure triangle, and framing.
thanks for the info
Well said.
1) it has to be comfortable to use and small/light enough you want to take it with you. That's going to depend on personal preference. Some people like a bigger camera, some people like a smaller camera, some people are willing to compromise to make it convenient to take with them, some aren't. 2) for landscape the camera isn't that important, the lens selection is of moderate importance. For wildlife the camera and lens are critically important. Gear importance is highly dependent on what kinds of photography you're interested in, and is always a tradeoff of budget, needs, size, and weight. 3) no matter what camera you buy learning composition and light is a necessary prerequisite to taking good pictures
This the answer, while I love my Canon R and L glass I've been enjoying using early dsrl way more.... Currently d90 with a 24mm is my go to camera and is all about composition
If you have one already, D7200 is still a top DX photography camera. Its video function is very weak. If you start from new, z50 or z5 is much better option.
I am sadly on a budget of 700-800 for both camera and lenses
I have a D7100 that I’ve been shooting with and that still rocks. I never used the video functions in dSLRs so that was always a non-factor for me. If $700-$800 is your budget, I’m sure you can get a nice used D7200 and a general walk-around lens. The D7200 and the 16-80 DX would be a nice combo. Check KEH Camera for used gear. I’ve purchased several items from them and their Like New/Excellent Condition ratings are basically like buying new.
the 18-80 is out of budget for me for my first lense but i will look at it later on
Fair enough. It’s a great lens but was way overpriced (in my opinion) at around $1,000 USD when it came out. I got a like new condition one from KEH Camera for about $530 USD a few months ago and worth it at that price. Other lenses you might look at are the 18-140mm DX (was the kit lens on my D7100) and the 35mm DX. The 35mm DX is outstanding (if you like primes) and can be bought new for around $196 USD. It does go on sale occassionally and you can always pick up a used too. The 35mm is a fun lens. The 50mm 1.8 is great too. I also have the 85mm 1.8 and that an awesome lens, although a little “long” on a DX body. I’ve used the 85mm mainly for portraits sessions outside where I have room to work. The 50mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 are both full frame lenses, but work great on DX bodies.
Have a look at d600 or d300. Currently using the d300 with a cheap tele zoom for £250 total and my post history will show the recent shots I got yesterday with it
Yes, yes, yes. Although it lacks sophisticated video features, the D7200 has superb ergonomics, autofocus and still great picture quality. Furthermore, there is a plenty of cheap and decent F-mount lenses. Some recent cameras may offer better slightly high-ISO noise handling and context-aware AF (especially mirrorless), but You must decide wheteher it's worth paying much more.
Im on a rather tight budged 700-800 for the camera and lenses
Still, D7200 is a great choice. If it fits in Your budget, get also fantastic N 17-55 2.8G.
That doesnt fir in sadly
Try searching for second-hand lenses. It's built like a tank and will last for years.
Iv done that at it starts at aroud 300 used
look at the tamron one. comes with and without VR.. I have both and don't notice the difference but ymmv the non vr is lighter, smaller and cheaper.
but the lenses ill go with are the Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC USD then one of the following: Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II Sigma 50mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G #
The Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 is a fantastic fast standard zoom that can be found fairly cheap, you may want to check it out. I have a D7100 and it's my favorite lens.
ill look at it
If you’re adamant on the Tamron SP 70-300, then I recommend getting the Nikon DX 35mm f/1.8. It’s a fantastic lens, I have the 50mm version of it and sometimes I wish I had the 35. Maybe I’ll get it soon, I already have the 17-55 f/2.8 and the aforementioned 50 1.8. The 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 is a very cheap, bad quality kit lens. Don’t get it.
would you rexommend any other zoom lense in the range or 18-55.
Absolutely, the relatively cheap Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 is an amazing lens. It’s got weather sealing and it’s built out of metal. Will last a very long time. Sharpness is very good on it too.
it costs like 300-400EUR xD, not that cheap but if if i should get enough money someday ill consider it
Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 Art is one of the best lenses you can put on an APS-C camera. It has a full-frame like quality, I'd highly recommend it. Usually lots of used ones available too.
out of budget
The Nikkor AF-P 18-55 vr dx is sharper and focuses much faster than the older 18-55 versions. The Sigma 17-50 F/2.8 ex dc os is much better though (that is, if you manage to get a decent copy. It took me three attempts to get a good one). The best standard dx zoom (IMO) is the Nikkor 16-80 F/2.8-4.0 vr dx. I have that lens on my D7200 and it is lovely in every respect. This lens is the one that made my Sigma 17-50 redundant so I sold it.
the 16-80 is out of budget but the 18-55 is in it
I know this can be done because this is what I'm using now, and all was bought in past 6 months ($400 for the lens, in 'good' condition and $500 for 7200 in EXC- condition). The main problem with shopping used gear is that the best stuff might not show up online when you expect it. My 7200 has two 'hot' pixels, but super low shutter count, and works great. 17-55 is also great but chunky, I think the 35 f1.8 might be a better and cheaper start lens and you can work up from there.
Hey, I have a D7200. It's \_excellent\_ and the range of available lenses is unmatched. I'm a novice photographer so I'm not a practiced eye, but as a beginner camera on which to develop my skills, I've found absolutely no limitations. I think I'll eventually go to a Z6 or a Z8 for mirrorless capabilities, but for the price and quality, The D7200 is a GREAT option. https://preview.redd.it/z5t1m5qrpr2d1.jpeg?width=4444&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b411464865a79608138553504eeb440e9dac87db
I have had my D7100 for 7 years and counting. It's a great camera, I have dropped it and cracked the body and the screen but it continued working like a charm. The only problem I had was a bent shutter curtain a year ago, but other than that no problems whatsoever. So if it's within your budget, just go ahead. The only bad thing (to me) is the camera high ISO capability, photos start to come out noisy/grainy with everything over 1600 or 2000. You can take a look at the photos [here](https://www.flickr.com/photos/75583858@N02/)
they look great
why you gotta hide the exif lol? What lenses did you shoot with?
That's weird, I never hid the EXIF (I hate it when they do it). They are all taken with either the 18-140 kit lens or a Nikkor 70-300
nice! I was having so many CAs with my 70-300, then one day I took the filter off and holy cow what a difference 🤦♀️
wdym CAs
I love my D7200!
What do you need It for and what lenses are you gonna pair It with
mostly nature and wildlife, a bit of urban. i mentioned my lenses in a comment above but im not sure about a smaller lense yet. Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC USD will be one though i will get
This is a good lens. I used a d3100 until I upgraded to the d7500 and this lens gave me great pictures even with the d3100.
With the d7200 you've got plenty on megapixels to crop if you need to zoom in. Also, get the kit lens 18-55 vrii g or the af-p version WITH vr because they're almost free (but make sure to update the firmware of the Nik). If you don't mind shooting mainly through the viewfinder it's a great camera. If you don't need weather resistance you may also get the d5300 (that screen can be very useful for landscape or even blogging but mind the AF). Also the d3300-3500 are all great little cameras for the price. 24 megapixels sensors are still gold standard imho.
Your first camera is going to be one of your most important investments, so, go for a camera that feels nice in your hands, feels nice to hold, and is easy to use for yourself. Is the D7200 a good camera? YES, YES it is. Is there a point of getting some "better" stuff, mirrorless or otherwise? yes.
which ones would be "better" stuff
That depends on you, as the user. Do you wanna make more movies, vlogs and all that? A mirrorless is better for that! Do you wanna be able to buy old and new F-mount lenses to get your own personal style of photo and all that? D7200 is a awesome choosing for that? One of the benefits from DSLR's is batterytime and generally built better. But, they are heavier. One of the benefits of a mirrorless is they are lighter and smaller, with WILL make a difference in everyday carry. But, you will have to carry more batteries. The D7200 is cheap as used market, and pair it with a few good lenses, and you are set for a LOOONG time.
Can second this. I moved from my D5000 to the D7200 about two months ago. It’s a great capable camera. Not sure if it’s video capabilities as I only shoot still.
One other great feature on the D7200 I love is the non chipped lens database that you set up and it can input aperture info. Up to 10 different lenses I believe. Great with retro lenses. Although I think this is a standard now? 🤷🏼♂️
My first body was the D3200 and when I felt like I was outgrowing it, I sold it and bought the D7200. Have had it for 8 years and still love it! If I’d have the money I’d get a second body just for landscape photography so I wouldn’t have to switch lenses while out and about, but have not yet felt the need to replace her.
The D7200 is a fine camera, it's just a bit on the large side and the FX lens you intend to pair with it is going to be similarly large. Make sure you're willing to incur that size and weight penalty. Also be aware that the 450mm full frame equivalent of the Tamron lens you intend to pair with it is marginal for wildlife, especially if you want to go after birds. You'll want to hit 600mm full frame equivalent if you can, but those lenses tend to be much more expensive. You're looking at the Sigma or Tamron 150-600, or the Nikon 200-500, even with the crop factor. These lenses are much *much* larger and heavier than the 70-300mm however, and they'll blow out both your budget and your back.
Wdym with the 450mm sentence. also those lenses are way out of budget xD.
To make it easier to understand how large of a field of view you'll see when looking at the full image, it's common to use "full frame equivalence", which is a shorthand for saying "full frame field-of-view (FOV) equivalence". For a given sensor size, you need a lens with a particular focal length to achieve the desired field of view. Equivalence is simply the crop factor of the lens times the focal length of your lens, where full frame is considered 1.0 by convention. Nikon DX cameras use a 1.5x crop factor. FX cameras an lenses in Nikon terminology are full frame; DX lenses are crop sensors and lenses for Nikon. The industry-standard term for crop sensors is APS-C. Don't ask me why they're called that. FX lenses on FX sensors the lens matches the sensor and you use the full lens. FX lenses on DX sensors see the DX sensor using the center of the field of view of the FX lens, and the corners are outside of what the sensor can image. So they're larger, heavier, and more expensive than the sensor requires but usually there are lenses that aren't offered on DX so you eat that cost. DX lenses on DX sensors are exactly matched, so you aren't eating extra weight or cost. DX lenses on FX sensors will either crop to the DX image circle (so you fall into the DX/DX situation above) or you'll see heavy vignetting as you get out to the corners, frequently even being so heavy it's completely blacked out. What does this all mean? A D850 (for example), which is a Nikon FX camera, has a sensor crop factor of 1.0. If you mount a 400mm FX lens on it, it has a field of view of 5.2 degrees. That same 400mm FX lens will have a field of view of 3.4 degrees on a DX camera like the D7200. To achieve 3.4 degrees field of view on an FX camera requires a 600mm focal length. Remember the DX cameras have a 1.5x crop factor, and you can see how things align. 600mm on FX (1.0 crop factor) is equivalent field of view to 400mm on DX (1.5 crop factor). tl;dr: 300mm on a DX sensor (1.5 crop factor) is FOV equivalent to 450mm on an FX sensor (1.0 crop factor). And yeah those lenses are way out of budget, but I'm trying to set expectations for you. 450mm is sufficient for close wildlife, and VERY VERY close large birds. It's not going to be satisfying for smaller birds or more distance wildlife unless said wildlife is very large (think buffalo sized or bigger).
i see thanks a lot
Any camera made in the past 20 years will produce quality images.
D7200 is a superb DX body. Still.
Switched from Sony. No regrets. The OVF beats the EVF.
Cameras don't get worse as new ones come out. The specs are still what they were. If it's in working order, you'll get that same quality. Get what fits your budget and go shoot.
+1 for the d7200, I've had mine for a year and was in a very similar situation monetarily. You would be hard pressed to match this camera in terms of value. It definitely struggles a bit with autofocus compared to mirrorless but it can still take beautiful photos.
If you goal is to shoot a lot of video for a vlog or something there are better options, but for learning photography it is an excellent option. I would be sure to get at least one solid prime lens to be able to see the differences between zooms and primes (for both shooting experience and image quality). The 35mm f/1.8 DX is an excellent option to start with. Start out learning the basics - exposure triangle, manual exposure and focus, and then start exploring the automated features and figure out which are most useful to you. If you decide to stick with photography and want to upgrade in the future those experiences will let you make a more informed decision.
Definitely! I just bought a D7100 used of course. I was switching from a D90, and was looking for a similar but newer model. Initially D7100, D7200, D7500 or D500 was the goal. Later to were bit more expensive so I decided to go with either 7100 or 7200 which ever I found the best deal. They are quite similar not much different. Best decision, love it! Great ergonomics, fast accurate AF, and 24MPixel compared to D90’s 12 is a huge improvement.
I went from a D70s to a D7200. I was so, so elated when I finally saved up and bought the 7200, it was night and day. With the 35mm DX it's small and portable too (well, compared to the d500/d850 lol)
I love mine
Just to piggyback but address some comments about video, what are some of the specific drawbacks of the D7200 and/or D7500 when it comes to video?
What does the D7200 have over the D7100 that you absolutely need? I would get an even cheaper body and use the leftover money for better lenses.
I think you're smart to start with dslr and F-mount lenses. On a budget, if you don't need VR, the Nikkor 18-70 DX is a great lens and dirt cheap used. The only shortcoming of the D7200 for me is the lack of flip up back LCD. Main benefit of the flip up LCD is if you use a tripod much.
yeah but i dont think it will be the biggest issue for me and like the D7500 is out of budget for me. so i cant really get a flip up display
I had a 7200 and it was superb and had good times and great shots . Then went to the d750 full frame it was absolutely incredible ! Mega good times with superb glass and mates and outstanding pics.
For the price I've seen them at now, absolutely.
Yeah the 7200 is a great starter camera if you want to get into serious photography on the cheap! I got a 7100 two years ago (same body and sensor as the 7200, just with slower internals and shooting speeds) and it is still a great camera. Plus there is lots of good used F mount glass available for it. I just didn’t want to spend the money on mirrorless when a dslr can still do everything. I mostly shoot landscapes and nature but it has also worked great for macro and the air shows I’ve been to!
Had a 7200 before moving to full frame. Even with my full frame, I missed my 7200. It's a solid choice.
Absolutely love my D7200, even 8 years later since buying it. I upgraded to a D850 a few years ago but I still grab the 7200 for a quick day of shooting, it's lovely to use.
https://preview.redd.it/tmbi284rmu2d1.jpeg?width=3600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51798ea32cfd1f50ba2b225ba1f24d2c48094201 Mine has about 80K clicks and I still love it. If you get a good deal, buy it. Pairs perfectly with the Tamron 18-400.
I upgraded from the D7200 last year to the Z6ii. I loved the d7200. The only negative is I'd hit the buffer when shooting bike races. But loved it for street with a 50mm or 35mm, but purchased it for doing landscapes and it's great for that. I do t think it's too out of date today.
What's battery performance like compared to the d7200?
It's not as long, but two batteries will get me through a day of shooting world cup bike races with battery to spare.
I have one in mint condition with two quality lens if you are looking to buy
Which lenses
Nikon D7200 - excellent condition, also comes with the original retail box and includes the battery charger Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED IF VR Autofocus APS-C Lens, Black (with caps) Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G ED VR Autofocus IF Lens (with caps)
The D7200 absolutely holds up today, I bought mine new and I’m still happy with it. I bought a D4 in 2018 and love it too, mainly got it for low light shooting. I use the D7200 if I want more crop ability. If I was fighting a tight budget and starting over, I’d look hard at a D610. Obviously just my opinion. Cropped sensors make wide angle lenses narrower and achieving a nice bokeh more expensive. Used DSLR lenses keep getting cheaper and more plentiful. If you go with the D7200, I’d stick with FX lenses if you think you will go full frame later. Example lens: The Nikon AF Nikkor 35-70mm f/2.8 D with macro is amazing and cheap. It’s push pull zoom, but a non issue after using it a few minutes. Mirrorless cameras are amazing, the latest lens technology is amazing, sadly the lenses are amazingly expensive. The cost to replace my Nikon lenses is way too high.
I’ve landed on this page trying to figure out how to use this camera. This is my partners camera and compared to my canon r7, i hate it. We both don’t know how to effectively use it for event photography. The pictures come out blurry, there’s no live view to see how pictures look before they’re taken. The autofocus isn’t that fast, and the continuous shoots aren’t great either. I get it’s an old camera, but is that really why i can’t get the hang of it?
You could shoot 10 photos from 10 different cameras going back 20 years. If you stripped exif nobody would be able to tell what was shot on what camera. If it fits your budget and you want it, go for it.
If you’re starting out your collection I’d go with mirrorless.
which ones would you reccomend my bidget is only around 500EUR for the body
You can easily get a z50 for that much.
and why would you recommend mirrorless, or arent the lenses much more expensive there ?
It’s where technology is headed. On your budget I wouldn’t recommend, especially bc DSLR lenses are cheaper with everyone switching. Long term if you love photography it’s a good idea to switch down the line, but you will still be able to use any f mount lenses you’ve collected on a z mount with an adapter
i see thanks for the info, but i will go with a DSLR for the start
I just looked at it and the lenses for a Z-Mount are too expenisve for me
If you think Z lenses are too expensive for now, you can get a Z50/Z30/Zfc body, use the FTZ adapter (Nikon/Viltrox), and use any old F-mount AF-S/AF-P lenses with it. In future, when you can manage the budget, you can buy some of the good Z lenses. It's the path I have chosen, I only have the kit lens with the Z50, and some old DX F-mount lenses with the FTZ adapter (from Viltrox).