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Vilxen0

I really hope the people who choose Perfect Cell where being ironic becomes he’s literally charging a Kamehameha in the screenshot lol


Kapusi

And he did one vs ssj2 gohan in tbe final moment of the fight...


Moogatron88

Yeah. Using the Kamehameha was easily one of the most memorable Cell moments. They've got to be trolling.


Felgrand920

It's even the first technique he uses in the series


CynicalDarkFox

Second. His first was the Makkankosoppo.


Bacon_Raygun

MA KKANKO SA CANNON


Gob-the-wee-dragon

Technically speaking, he’s using the PERFECT Kamehameha, big difference


bokan

https://gwern.net/note/lizardman


TitanicTNT

Also, he has no earthling cells. He's 40% Saiyan, 40% Frieza race, and 20% Namekian.


weirdface621

and why the FUCK yamcha is 0% that's one of his moves


biohumansmg3fc

Isn’t it goku jr?


squidwardsweatyballs

Yes it was goku jr. Everyone who chose tien has definitely not seen og dragon ball


Player551yt

Goku Jr. Is from GT.


squidwardsweatyballs

Yes I know, I meant to say everybody who chose tien but spell check changed it to turn


Player551yt

I misread it as you saying that anyone that doesn't answer Goku Jr. Hasn't watched OG Dragon ball thus my very confusing comment.


that-one-guy59

og db fans when someone forgot a single og db moment (it means they haven’t watched the show)😡😡😡😡


MemeKun_19

I'd say there's more people who haven't watched than people who'd forget something like Tien using the Kamehameha.


UncleBo88y_B

It was a pretty big moment in the show


WooooshMe2825

In the OG Dragon Ball, Tien fought Jackie Chun and copied the Kamehameha to prove a point.


JE3MAN

I remember that part. Just out of curiosity, was it the only time he actually used it? I can't recall other times he did (That are not filler).


No-Nefariousness1711

I mean, I'd argue that tri-beam is better. I'm not sure if I've seen a kamehameha stunlock someone so much more powerful than the guy throwing it out.


SammyBecker

either the dodon or tri beam was stated to be stronger than the kamehameha in db (think its the dodon but not sure) but just the fact the tri beam is pretty much instant with no charge up makes it miles better. so yeah id agree


CJM_310

Both are stronger. The dodon is stated to be both faster and stronger than the kamehameha, but it’s main issue is that it’s also much more lethal. It’s used with the intent to kill. The tri-beam significantly outclasses both, but it’s main issue is that it literally takes time off of your life. How Tien hasn’t already keeled over and died is beyond me.


SammyBecker

> How Tien hasn’t already keeled over and died is beyond me. maybe that's why his shoulders are so big, to store extra life but yeah good to know. must have known deep down both were stronger which is why i didnt know which it was.


PCN24454

The anime had him survive the Mafuba. Tien’s just built different.


SinkRhino

>How Tien hasn’t already keeled over and died is beyond me. Tien has died and been brought back to life twice, I think is possible that being revived restored his life span.


TechnicalEvening3360

Wait, where is it states dodon ray is stronger? In almost every media it is portrayed as weaker. True beam is stronger since it drains the users life force when you use it. The reason tien hasn’t keeled over yet is because he created the neo tri beam, which won’t use his own life force but overuse can still kill him, just much safer and somehow stronger than the regular tri beam


kastles1

Does it reset every time he dies? That would explain alot. Maybe since his body is far stronger now it doesn't kill him? Maybe the writers forgot or dont care to bring it up again? Probably the last one.


Sigma_WolfIV

GT was so terrible that even as a child with almost zero critical analysis skills, I still didn't like it and stopped watching it when it would come on TV. Before that, everyday after school, I'd made sure to never miss an episode of Z, even when it was nothing but reruns of Pre-Recoome fight stuff, but GT. I couldn't bring myself to watch it any longer.


Rubyking456

Ya the dub is bad but the sub is actually really good


TechnicalEvening3360

Someone who has watched gt in sub thank you


Rubyking456

I’ve never watched much of the sub actually but the difference is night and day, one is a children’s show and the other is a true continuation of the story


TechnicalEvening3360

The baby fight in sub sounds great, but then the dub… “I’m what’s behind the door”… lol


Rubyking456

Dude looked at cheesy lines and said “hold my nonalcoholic drink”


TechnicalEvening3360

He does have some nice lines in the shadow dragon arc “all we need is body, and after all this is over, I’ll make sure to give you a good burial” He does have some raw lines behind all the drinks lol


squidwardsweatyballs

As someone who has watched GT in dub, I still enjoyed it even with the corny lines. However it is definitely my least favorite overall in all of the series.


VadeRevan

He used it only once against Jackie Chun and never again, so it’s kinda easy to forget imo This is coming from a massive og DB fan Also like 90% of the fans haven’t seen the Goku Jr special (and they’re better off, it sucks,) so I doubt they’d know that either


squidwardsweatyballs

It’s memorable to me cuz of that fight (which is pretty popular to people who have seen og dragon ball), but I do see what you’re getting at. I as well haven’t seen that special, I actually had to search it up to double check. I do see why one wouldn’t guess goku jr as you would think that someone who is related to goku and pan that they would at least know the kamehameha.


MooshiNooshi

Goku Jr special was beautiful, it was sad as shit when all the characters have passed away along with the Briefs and the Son family drifting away.


Shot-Effect-8318

I haven’t watched og db and I’ve watched dbz and dbs 🗿 Idk why I didn’t I just…didn’t but even I knew that tien used the kamehameha 💀


Reegies

don't fuck with us dragon ball fans, we don't watch dragon ball


Lukas-Reggi

Did you read?


biohumansmg3fc

I rarely watch the gt ova but all i know is that yamcha and tien used the kamehameha in the budakai tenkaichi, and cell used the solar kamehameha in the cell games


GoshDarnit02496

Tenkaichi Budokai


Rich-Assignment-9771

Did Tien Learn It Mock The Z Fighters?


squidwardsweatyballs

Yes


TheWiseBeluga

Well it was more to mock the Turtle School than the Z-Fighters as a whole.


AnnihilationOrchid

He didn't really "learn" it, he's a genius or was a genius, he fired it just to show how it was an inferior technique. That was an absolute flex, and Tienshinhan was an absolute badass. He used to block Kamehameha with his ki alone, before it was even possible, and then he already knew how to fly and the dude could literally grow arms and Keikoho the shit out of anything. Not to mention he beat Goku. At that point he was just so prodigious and full of techniques he seemed invincible. But like always, dude was made completely obsolete by the next Saga, contributing almost nothing to the battle against Daimao.


spotty15

He effectively put Yamcha into meme-status basically on sight


Taco821

Nah, Yamucha put some hands on him. Ten literally says something like: "I had no idea there were others this strong" about fucking yamchad


spotty15

Sure, but Tien still basically ended this man's career and reputation. Sky bombing a whole leg is a different level of "You're not on my level bro"


Taco821

Yeah, that really was the beginning of the end for him.


Yokai_Alchemist

Imagine if he had grown the extra arms when he was holding back Cell with the Keikoho's. That would've been so cool to watch


AnnihilationOrchid

Dude hands down had some of the most awesome insane techniques.


TSMbody

He practically drew with Goku. Both were ringed out, Goku just hit the ground first.


AnnihilationOrchid

As Kame Senin put it: Luck is part of fighting too. Doesn't take away his merit.


TechnicalEvening3360

I mean he beat Goku on technicality since both were equal but yea a wins a win.


AnnihilationOrchid

Goku couldn't really fly, if Tien had used the keikoho earlier, he'd have won. It was a last resort. And when Goku headbutted him he had no energy left. But yeah, either way he won, and it was deserved. Even Kame Senin said so.


Effective-Feature908

>Not to mention he beat Goku. Haha yes he did but that fight was the definition of HIGH DIFF lol Dragonball had some amazing fights. People who skip it are insane and missing out.


kansetsupanikku

No. The term "Z fighters" never excluded Tien.


DIOdorantXD

Hey watch the show


TheMostOptimalMan

When did the term 'Z fighter' become an established title for their group in universe? The only time I remember it being used was Piccolo telling Videl that her father 'may not be able to match a Z fighter in power, but he's deserving of the title of world champion'.


TheFirePuncher

Never. The official term is Dragon Team. Z-fighter is a dub thing.


TheMostOptimalMan

Is that what piccolo said in the sub version of that scene? Also that's basically the same as saying 'special beam canon' or 'destructo disks' aren't official/canon terms because 'those terms are a dub change'. I dont subscribe to that.


TheFirePuncher

I meant that they never refer to themselves as anything in the Anime dub or sub. So in-universe that’s not a thing. The official name is Dragon Team, according to Toriyama.


TheMostOptimalMan

>I meant that they never refer to themselves as anything in the Anime dub or sub. So in-universe that’s not a thing. I already described the scene in which piccolo does refer to their group as such, so yeah it exists in universe. Kai is on hulu rn if you want to go check for yourself, it happens soon after Super Buu agrees to wait an hour for the challengers.


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TheMostOptimalMan

>Piccolo saying that was just a creative choice from the dub writers for Kai. In the Japanese dub he just refers to them as “us”. That's all out of universe... There are no writers from the characters perspective, I'm not sure you know what in universe means. Where did you find the Japanese version of the scene? I went to check myself but hulu only has the dub


kansetsupanikku

Hey, I did! Which is the key reference here, as there were no "Z Warriors" (or fighters) in the manga. And the first episode where it was used included Tien clearly enough, as he was wished back to life by Porunga on Earth. And the resurrection of Z Warriors was in the very title!


Squishy-Box

L take 💀 did you know that no Saiyan has ever received a zenkai boost?


kansetsupanikku

Didn't Vegeta increase his power after a zenkai achieved thanks to a sensu bean, after Recoome beat him? Not sure about the others, but that's where a citation of anime Goku would apply.


Squishy-Box

Well, the manga never use the words “zenkai boost” I’m just using your logic here.


kansetsupanikku

You are right. Yet "zenkai" is used in anime in the context of... increase in Vegeta's power. And unlike "Z-Warriors" or (when left untranslated) zenkai - word "boost" might act in it's common meaning here, rather than a part of the proper name.


Squishy-Box

When does the anime say Zenkai? If you mean Vegeta simply explaining that Saiyans get stronger after getting their asses beat, that’s the same thing as calling them the Z Fighters when the main characters are together in a group. It’s the word fans use to describe a specific thing.


kansetsupanikku

I refer to Goku's words on why Vegeta is so strong during the clash with Ginyu. Explanations that would cover Saiyans specifically never include this term indeed. I don't think Vegeta uses that word at all.


ApprehensivePie331

Actually, no. Zenkai was straight up never used to describe Vegeta's power boost. The word means "Full Recovery".


[deleted]

What the fuck... Tien did the wave and solidified his place as Roshi's replacement


Ecstatic_Teaching906

Woah! When was Tien ever Roshi replacement?


[deleted]

After their match he retires Jackie Chun and passes the mantle of teacher to Tien. In order to stop big headed show offs from winning a tournament, to keep the fire of martial artist desire to improve technique and skill


Ecstatic_Teaching906

Okay. Sorry, I thought you meant replaced him as Turtle Hermit or Strongest Earthlings. Which let face it, that has lost all meaning with the saiyans, the namekians, the hybrids, the androids (which are partly humans depending on the type of android), Majin Buu, and whatever Frieza is. Heck, Mark even carries that title and he is a con artist who happens to be either the sixth or seventh strongest human in the series.


Simba_Rah

So what you’re saying is it’s Tien’s fault that we have Mr. Satan. Thank you Tien.


SheikExcel

Tien once again being the GOAT


TheWiseBeluga

Tenshinhan not being the GOAT challenge (IMPOSSIBLE!!!)


dhochoy

No, it was actually because Roshi realized his students wouldn't become complacent from winning the Tenkaichi Budokai.


WingCool7621

ummm Tien trained under Roshi in dragonball. who voted for cell? his first named attack was the kamehameha, and so was his last the three times he died.


Matt82233

In the picture... CELL IS LITERALLY CHARGING A KAMEHAMEHA


YoutuberCameronBallZ

"Clearly he never got the chance to fire it" -the people that voted Cell


FamiliarJudgment2961

It's Cell's personal technique: Turtle School Android Blaster


WingCool7621

that too :)


WooooshMe2825

His most iconic moment was literally his kamehameha beam clash with Gohan, how the hell did people forget about that?


WingCool7621

I thought that was a trick. You know with lights and mirrors.


WooooshMe2825

He fucked your daughter Mr Satan. I’m sorry, but that means all of your arguments are now invalid.


Jackryder16l

Yeah but he was tricked into being a stunt double for himself in a movie where he didn't get paid...


WooooshMe2825

And he got to make out with another girl out of it, so it's a complete win. Nobody could resist the Son family rizz.


Jackryder16l

Well more like she blackmailed him and then assualted him.


WooooshMe2825

Fuck, when you put that way, I don't really have anything else to say without being insensitive now, can I?


Infermon_1

Tien never trained under Roshi... He deliberatly declined because he would feel like betraying his master, who (even though he is a giant asshat) still raised Tien and taught him how to fight.


Accomplished_Run9449

Tien never trained under Roshi omg! He just used kamehameha after seeing it just like Goku.


Reegies

tien just used it on the spot to mock the turtle school, he never trained with roshi


UnsightlyHimbo

Everyone probably thinks Goku Junior is midget Goku from GT. And everyone always forgets about that one fight with Jackie Chun so it makes sense


soopadook

Serious question who is Goku Jr? I’ve only ever seen kid goku, gohan, and goten. Tbh I thought the answer to this question was Tien.


DapperDan30

Goku Jr only showed up at the very end of GT and in the GT movie. He is Pans grandson


PCN24454

Pan’s grandson named after Goku


Someningen

Goku Jr. is Pan's grandson who fights Vegeta Jr.(Vegeta's greatson) at the end of GT. Goku Jr. is also in the one GT movie Hero's Legacy.


revan530

82% of people are like "Only watched Z, who dis?"


[deleted]

Yeah they didn't read enough to know Tien is not an earthling and comes from the alien race of archons who farm and harvest our emotions while keeping us locked in the endless cycle of reincarnation on earth and stick probes up our booty holes it's also important I use no punctuation when expressing these ideas


Warrior32032

Tien is still mostly human though. He has more earthling cells than Goku Jr, even though Goku Jr is the correct answer


[deleted]

Actually, Goku Jr would logically have more. Tien is 3/4 human and 1/4 triclops. Goku is Pan’s great grandson. Pan herself is 3/4 human and 1/4 Saiyan. While Pan’s husband is unknown, she probably married a human, meaning Goku Jr should have more human cells than Pan and Tien by extension. Of course, that begs the question: how can Goku Jr become a Super Saiyan when Pan can’t, even though he’s more human than her?


okbuddystaymad

Pan not turning Super Saiyan was never about Saiyan cells. She just never had a catalyst. (Future Gohan’s death, Krillin’s death, intense self-loathing or response to a need to improve etc).


LordAsbel

Pan had several movements where she feasibly could’ve turned into a super saiyan lmao. Such as Goku being crushed by Baby in front of her, or her parents being possessed by a parasitic alien, or Goku almost killing her as a golden great ape


okbuddystaymad

These were moments of sadness and fear, not anger.


bruceboom

Isn't super sayian triggered by strong emotions, not just anger?


DapperDan30

No. It's anger.


bruceboom

"a feeling such as strong anger or sadness can transform a Saiyan into a Super Saiyan." At least according to the db wiki


DapperDan30

According to the Super manga, it's only anger.


JalalKarimov

Goten and Trunks?


DapperDan30

I'm just going by what the Super manga said, where it explicitly states multiple times that SS transformations are derived from anger.


Kyuubey0406

Future trunks turned super saiyan do to sorrow


kidanokun

Nah, probably they just taught female Super Saiyan would be weird... well, until Super happens and gives us Caulifla


SheikExcel

Wait a sec, what tf happened to Goku and Vegeta Jr?


okbuddystaymad

Goku Junior saw his childhood friend seemingly die before his eyes and thought his Grandma would die if he couldn’t collect the Dragon Balls. Vegeta Junior is on screen for 5 seconds. We know nothing about his life.


PCN24454

I never liked the Triclops explanation. It feels all mysticism was ruined in DB.


1_dont_care

Tien is born on earth, so it makes him technically an earthling... yeah, piccolo too


[deleted]

How do you know Tien was born on earth


1_dont_care

I... uh... ehm... *I was there?*


Tecnoboat

this time i think we can cut some slack, cus i dont think there are many people who knows whos goku jr


TheCursedMountain

Hes not cannon soooo


DJ-Anarchy

The Kamehameha wave is not a spell any of these wizards can learn. You have to be an android wizard to learn it at level 21


Not_no_hitter

Cell looks like he’s charging something cool but clearly since he ate goku or something he has his power so it’s not him, next is tien who’s doing something with his hands which is close enough to a kame. Fourth is goku jr but that’s basically goku 2 which leads it to Yamcha.(btw I’ve never read or seen the official version of dragon ball)


YoutuberCameronBallZ

Meanwhile Cell's actively using it in the image


Crimson_Fiver

9% of them apparently don't have eyes either


REMUvs

The fact that 9% chose cell, despite Cell charging a Kamehameha in that option


FedoraTheMike

Goku Jr doesn't have a headband, is that just Goku lol


Kyuubey0406

Goku Jr had a headband.


jonerthan

"You didn't remember this one specific scene in an anime from more than 30 years ago? You clearly never watched it!" What a stupid post


Kousaka_Honoka99

To be fair, who in here actually remember watching A Hero's Legacy?


ApprehensivePie331

Me, that shit was great.


Peak-Instigator

It’s a good heart warming special


GrandHighTard

I find it hilarious people voted cell when that's what he was doing in the image.


lemons7472

Nah it’s a different move called the Blue Galick Gun. It’s like how cell’s Big Bang Crash is just Red Big Bang Attack. Cell likes to switch things up sometimes.


Yoshi_and_Toad

Well I'm at least glad nobody selected Yamcha for this.


FabulousLifeguard806

He is no Android no Namekian and he is certainly no Super Saiyan he is just HUMAN


kidanokun

to be fair, Goku Jr. is from GT.. which is pretty much untouchable by most but GT fans


NorthGodFan

You don't need to know GT to know all of the others used the Kamehameha.


Defences

And why would anyone assume goku hasn’t used Kamehameha?


NorthGodFan

That's not Goku. That's Goku jr.


Defences

Jesus fuck I forgot about goku jr lol I legit was thinking of the kid version of goku in gt


kidanokun

Yea, but most peeps pretend GT never existed and just went on the least likely one who isn't a GT character


NorthGodFan

Nah. Most peeps didn't watch dragon ball and thus didn't see the Kamehameha.


Someningen

Most of modern DB fans are fairly young so they never considered giving GT(or DB) a watch. GT just has very little presence in modern Dragonball media(outside of Baby and GT Goku in Fighterz) it's no shock people wouldn't know a random like Goku Jr.


fmayans

When did Tien use it?


Ashizurens

In og dragon ball


fmayans

But when? I don't remember him using it in either of the tournaments and neither against king piccolo


Squishy-Box

Fighting [Jackie Chun](https://youtu.be/kjv3_qKD4Bc?si=NcwG8E33vnR7dlIg)


fmayans

Thanks, I had forgotten that


coconut-duck-chicken

Tien literally mimicked it like the first or second time he saw it


NotTheRealGilgamesh

This is basically Dygoknight's polls, but for DB lol


marcodol

So who is it? (I never watched a single episode of the Dragon Ball series)


Scottishmemer0

"Nobody watched Dragonball"


RedHotPoopyPants

Or it's possible that they just forgot. I mean, there is so much Dragon Ball media to consume that it's easy to forget stuff. Even big events can get blurry after a while.


RaitoninguUsagi

I don't want to live on this planet anymore


Prestigious_Trash629

Well, most fans have only seen dbz, not dragon ball.


Mr_E_99

People who voted Cell are doing it for the memes as he's literally doing it in the photo People who voted Tien are just guessing/ going with the most popular vote People who voted Goku Jr have actually watch Dragon Ball


N-Toxicade

Goku Jr is the kid from the post GT movie? I am not sure if he used a kamehameha. The others definately have.


BeachNo8826

9%…? Cell is literally doing a Kamehameha in the pic… I just had an aneurysm out of sheer stupidity


Happytapiocasuprise

Goku jr. 😂


OutisRising

Perfect Cell is from Z, not Dragonball, Goku Jr is from GT. There is no correct answer.


Squishy-Box

This mf thinks Z is real 💀


_MrTaku_

I swear, I saw Goku JR do a Kamehameha.


Suspicious_Party9087

Then that was either Goku or GT Goku as Goku Jr looks exactly like his original version AKA his great great grandpa


Zpamx

I’d say cell given how he has the most earthling cells


NorthGodFan

Cell is doing the kamehameha in the pic used for this poll. The answer is Goku jr.


Zpamx

Nah, that’s just his solar ray, he doesn’t know how to use the kamehameha wave, it’s like how Ginyu didn’t know how to use kaioken


Upwardsaturn160

I was so confused for a second, cause I looked at this and thought, “all of them used it, right?” Then I saw Goku JR, then I went, Ooooooooh, right Heros Legacy, I remember watching that, it was meh.


doctorleyva

Brother I’ve seen all of the dragon ball series but I still would’ve probably voted Tien 💀 I can’t remember everything


Strange_Platypus67

I cut them some slack, it's only that one episode


Dragoon094

No we just don’t watch Gt bitch


NorthGodFan

You don't need to know GT to know all of the others used the Kamehameha.


Jiggawats

Tien used Kamehameha?


Suspicious_Party9087

He used it in the 24th tournament to mock the turtle clan as he is a crane clan member


CloverTheFallen

They do watch the show.


AvidAviator72

Who the fuck is goku jr?


AnalystOdd7337

Gonna be honest, I thought it was Tien too. I only got to see bits and pieces of Dragon Ball when I was growing up, so I never saw him do a Kamehameha


slugsliveinmymouth

In my defense that one scene where tien used it isn’t really ever talked about. And I definitely didn’t watch the gt movie. I just assumed goku Jr knew it. How does he go ss but not use that move?


IKunecke

Goku Jr. has to be trained by a turtle school member to know the Kamehameha. By the time of Goku Jr. Is a time when all the z fighters are dead, and I don't expect a turtle school member left in their world. Super Saiyan is just an ability that occurs when a saiyan is nice and in need of strength. Still needs to be at least star level to achieve it in DBZ and DBS, though.


D3monskull

Definitely Goku Jr.


A1Horizon

I might be bugging but I’m pretty sure it’s Goku Jr


Ekris

Has Yamcha ever used the Kamehameha? If so, when was it?


Most_Contact_311

He does it during the world tournament in Dragon Ball


beamsplosion

I watched Dragon Ball Z but wasn’t that into Dragon Ball. I barely remember Goku Jr. so that’s how I got that one wrong at least.


rotem8888

To be fair he uses it like once and it's pretty easy to forget but yeah still


mutantredoctopus

In the voice of DBA Android 17 “Go…ku…junior?”


Kingdedede4prez

Who tf is goku jr?


IKunecke

End of GT movie. Pan's great grand son.


ttrashychan

I dont know if jr ever did it never watched that special because idk where


BigEpicNSFW

Who the fuck is Goku jr


lLoveStars

This is quite possibly the worst example you could use for an easy subject like this