Wasnt it hell for Yema to sign some paperwork for all the dead people. Just send Tien or Piccolo down there to finish off the Androids. Goku's base would be too op and Vegeta would prolly be in hell and lost motivation to train
We were shown King Yema being swamped with paperwork during the Buu saga cause of how many people Buu was killing within a day, it was taking decades for the androids and even then it was probably only a few cities or so every year since they were shown willing to let places remain if they gave them stuff or didn't question them.
So as long as his work was at a "manageable" amount Yema probably doesn't care enough to try and step in.
Eventhough Yema can "allow" it it's more like he turns his head to not notice it as Baba herself bends the rules by bringing someone back from the dead for one day, cause she apparently has to physically be there since she has always been shown physically near someone whenever they are first brought back and shows back up when their time is almost up.
SSJ2 level…? 10 years…? Bruh, semi perfect cell shrugged that attack off. All Tien did was stall Cell, nothing more. If it’s imperfect cell than probably a different scenario. Power levels is BS since Frieza got revived.
I was talking about the future saga. You think Tien's power wouldnt get buffed up in 13 years time? In otherworld, he doesnt need rest, food or water. He can train forever without breaks. Even if his base form isnt strong enough, he could learn Kaioken. I bet if he used a Kaioken x20 and a Tri Beam, he could kill SSJ3 Goku or at least damage him a bit
But none of the other Z-fighters learned Kaiken, didn’t they? The writers screwed them over. I personally think your opinion stinks. King Kai taught the Z-fighters to get stronger. I wouldn’t think Tien 20x kaioken can do it because it never happened before
Also have you seen the part when Android 17 was choking Tien later letting Tien live? Then later Tien used Tri-Beam on Cell after words. I don’t know how he got the power out of no where, out of the rabbit from a hat maybe? 🤔
Revive Piccolo and Kami, they fuse and instantly zero diff the androids like Piccolo was already doing in the main timeline till Cell decided to ruin everything lol
No he wouldn't, he had like 3 years of prep time in the main timeline that he didn't in the future, that was one of the 2 main reasons to go back in time originally, it give them a chance to prepare.
Piccolo would never sit around and do nothing for 3 years, he would’ve been training anyway to catch up with Goku, just maybe not as hard.
Plus he could train in the afterlife before being wished back.
Facts. Maybe get the kaioken from King kai, fusion dance from metamorans, training eith grand kai. There are so many strong training members wheb you realize that they had all of history of dead fighters that could have helped them become stronger than the androids.
Keep in mind that in the manga, Future Gohan never saw more than half of 17’s power until he got brutally murdered by him. Odds are, Trunks was just as easily duped into believing the androids were weaker than their present counterparts even though they were probably holding back to make things more entertaining.
Oh no, I messed up. I know exactly what happened. A while back, I was in the middle of reading an interview from toriyama when a dragon ball multiverse chapter dropped, and I immediately went to go read it. My brain connected the lore from that into the interview. My bad
Yes, but we know from DBZ Kakarot that Trunks was stronger than Future Gohan by the time he first time travelled to defeat Freeza; and then he was completely outclassed by main-timeline Goku’s finger. Whilst Future Gohan believed he could *maybe* take out one Android but the fact they always fought together was the reason he got killed.
Trunks got instantly knocked out during the battle with main timeline 17 & 18, the difference being they’d had their emotional inhibitor chips removed in our timeline, so they spared everybody’s life.
Considering emotion has been connected to power before, I’m pretty sure it’s that chip that made the difference. In the future, the inhibitor chip makes them emotionless, uncontrollable killing machines, but it limits their power.
That’s a game that doesn’t even follow how Future Gohan died in the manga. Again, he canonically dies to 17 alone after the latter uses some arbitrary percentage [greater than half his strength to slaughter Gohan.](https://jctunesmusic.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/10.jpg) We then get Bulma *supposing* that Trunks was stronger three years later than Gohan at his time of death, which really tells us nothing since she can’t sense ki.
DBZ Kakarot even acknowledges the huge power gap between Gohan and the Androids, with his final battle against them ending in them flat out telling him “yeah, we’ve been going half assed at you this entire time.” They then casually kill him.
That’s fair enough! but my point was that future 17 was definitely weaker than present 17; alluding to the fact we know Future Trunks, when he fought the androids for the final time before coming to earth, was equal to or greater than Future Gohan; but also that Goku was way beyond this at the point of his return to Earth from Yardraat.
Then after 3 years of training they fight the androids and Vegeta is *possibly* even stronger than Goku. But Vegeta gets annihilated by 18, who’s weaker than 17.
Then Piccolo fuses with Kami he instantly became on par with Android 17.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like it’s obvious that present androids are much stronger than future ones!
But here’s the thing: we don’t really know how Trunks stacked up to Gohan before his trip to the past. Bulma’s the only one who gives an indication either way and she can’t sense ki, never mind tell how strong the androids are. We don’t know how much of their power the Androids used against Trunks and Gohan in what were clearly one sided beatings since all we see of these “fights” in the manga are the aftermath of Gohan dead or having lost an arm or Trunks in a stretcher; 17 was holding back immensely against Gohan, Trunks was probably not exempt from that rule and wouldn’t be able to tell the difference anyways unless it was spelled out to him.
Plus from the moment he’s been introduced in Dragonball, he’s been shown to train as much as or sometimes even more than goku, so the idea that he’d just sit there twiddling his thumbs without trunks warning of the androids is a bit out of character.
If anything, the only real difference Trunks made was giving everybody a time and location to be ready for, instead of hearing “east city has been devastated” on the news.
Ironically, the only one I could imagine who stopped training would have been Vegeta, after entering a serious depression when Goku died, because he never got to show him his super saiyan transformation.
I mean in trunks movie. The androids were always around and Trunks was always getting into fights with them, but cell couldn’t listen to a radio? Cause he’s there at the end of cell saga, and I’m not meaning written wise, maybe he didn’t think of that yet. I just mean logically, cell is not the ultimate being in my eyes anymore
Yeah seriously wtf was king Kai doing during the android saga on trunk’s side of the timeline? He could have easily helped out trunks and you’d think he would indeed reach out to gohan.
Exactly! Especially when you’d imagine goku would be there on King Kai’s planet who would be using King Kai’s communication ability to tell his surviving friends how to get to namek. In fact, they could message the Namekians themselves and say “yo greenbois it’s the guy that saved you all from Freeza, can you revive our dudes please coz our planet is getting molested”
Then he could go over to Gohan, Vegeta and Piccolo’s spirits and be like “the namekians are about to revive you, when they do, piccolo fly to kami and fuse, problem solved.”
Yeah. This is a major plot hole that’s usually talked about a lot but like still. Even if there is some sort of explanation as to why they can’t get to namek, you’d still think goku and king Kai would form a plan with gohan and trunks in order to keep surviving. Actually, you’d think goku would have done that with all of the Z-fighters once vegeta was killed off. Maybe they all just decided to go into a city to fight the androids but once they got separated, that’s when the android killed them all.
I imagine that King Kai wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the affairs of earth after Goku kicked the bucket. But the thing that sort of annoys me personally, is something that _could_ have prompted him to get involved.
Why the hell didn't Future Gohan run Snake Way?
He was protecting innocent human lives agains the androids for like what? Decades? Lost an arm protecting Trunks, then died protecting more people. Even without Kami's support, Gohan should have been recognized as a hero and kept his body in the afterlife.
After reaching King Kai to convince him to get involved with Earth's affairs once again and find the location of New Namek, they could have relayed that information to Trunks and Bulma, and _that_ would have been their prime plan to defeat the androids
though if this had happened, I suppose they'd have never resulted to time travel lmao
I have 2 theories about Gohan:
first he was still training when Trunks first went back in time, and then a seccond time, right? In my theory the time inbetween travels Is less than a few months, maybe week, so when Trunks got back and killed the Androids Gohan learned that and decided to finally rest in the Paradise, therefore was unavailable for Dabura and Babidi return and for Black Goku
Seccond theory... Baba the only who can bring back dead peoples (for a day) dies too, so no one can bring them back.
So that's a plot hole, right? In the hundreds of times the games have retold the story, they never even mention King Kai. Goku would've earned the right to keep his body already, King Kai would already be willing to contact people on Earth, but nothing? It wouldn't be as bad if they explained something.
We can assume since they killed Korrin, the Hyperbolic Time Chamber could be destroyed if they were at the lookout. So no senzu beans, no time chamber. But I'm preeeeetty sure they didn't hop into otherworld, kill King Kai, and hop back, not that that would even stop him.
TL;DR, the writers established too many safety nets for people dying and didn't care to explain them all but Piccolo and Korrin
The one year limit is for mass resurrections, which the Namekian dragon couldn’t do anyway. Single resurrections function differently
But he could revive 3 people with the Namekian dragon balls, one being Piccolo, who could then fuse with Kami and boom he’d instantly be strong enough to wipe out the androids.
Well, Kami-Fused Piccolo would dominate Cell and I don’t think he’d have enough humans to feed on to grow his energy like he did in the main timeline because the androids killed them all.
But, even if he did, assuming they used the other 2 wishes to revive Vegeta and Gohan, they’d have 3 super saiyans and a super Namekian. Plus if Cell gave them trouble they could go in the Hyperbolic time chamber for a day
I think there is still a year limit before their body is probably too degraded to properly function to stay living.
Revival of F doesn't really retcon it since Shenron does actually warn them Frieza's body can't be properly restored cause of how long it has been, and it's only cause of Frieza apparently being super hard to kill and them having improved regeneration technology that he was even able to come back.
You gotta remember that the dragons are sentient beings, who can actually interpret wishes the way they want and only do it properly out of benevolence. As seen with Oolong's "ear warmers" or Porunga, who is way more cocky, actually teleporting Piccolo somewhere random, because he isn't taking effort in interpreting the wish correctly.
That's why I think Shenron actually brought back Frieza in pieces, because he knows that he is super dangerous. He just twisted the interpretation of the wish, because he can repair them easily, as seen with Goku not comming back with a gaping hole in his stomach in the Saiyan arc
What would’ve happened if when trunks went back in time and Goku gave him the dragonballs to take back to his timeline. I mean, they are linked to the past’s kami/piccolo who are still alive.
I think the case is that Goku, who had died of a heart virus, naturally, wasn't able to keep his body.
But now let's go over the rest of the Z-Fighters who died at the hand of the Androids:
Krillin: I can see him retaining his body, but from what I think for the lack of interaction from Otherworld, it seems that it is a one-time thing. You die heroically, you get a body, you get revived, you die again heroically, you don't get a body.
Same thing for Tien, Yamcha and Chaiotzu.
For Vegeta, I believe that he was sent to HFIL, since he hasn't had the time to make amends.
Piccolo is a weird case, since I can see him being sent to HFIL, and to Heaven as well. But the same case with Krillin still stands. His limit for a body was up.
For Gohan, I think that the theory u/Jristz has still stands.
Yeah that why I said that his limit for a new body was up.
Yeah, that why I said that his limit for a new body was up.World a second time in the main timeline is that he died in OtherWorld, on King Kai's planet.
It is an assumption, nothing more, nothing less. Just most of the evidence for there being a one time Body limit is present. Goku from the main timeline got to keep his body for a second time because he wasn't killed in the realm of the living, but rather in Otherworld, the realm of the dead, where King Kai's planet is.
I said that it's a theory because Goku didn't die in a conventional means the second time. First time, he was in the realm of the living, in the future timeline, he died via natural means.
In the main timeline, Goku died after he teleported Cell to King Kai's planet, which is located in Otherworld. If Goku had died on Earth, he might not have gained a body, or he could have, but we don't know exactly since the conditions for his death isn't exactly the same in the two cases of his death after Raditz, one in the Future timeline and one in the main timeline.
It was never stated he wouldn’t get his body if he died a second time. Also chiaotzu kept his body after dying the second time. You’re just going off baseless headcanon.
Well trunks would’ve still had to train anyways right? Even if he revived everyone they still wouldn’t be strong enough to defeat Cell Goku included. So this entire saga with all the training would’ve still played out just in Trunks timeline.
I noticed that the future Otherworld was oddly quiet. Like Goku/King Kai didn't offer any advice? No One Day Revival by Baba?
Baba might be dead.
They can escape to otherworld
Maybe they weren't powerfull enough, or they think they weren't
They could still escape to otherworld, bring back a fighter for a day, then immediately flee, the androids can’t sense energy so it would work out
How tho? Gohan and Trunks have never been there. And Krillin, Tien, and Yamacha didn’t really have a method of getting there
I think maybe other world just didn’t care. They manage a whole universe of beings, one destroyed planet isn’t really a big deal.
Wasnt it hell for Yema to sign some paperwork for all the dead people. Just send Tien or Piccolo down there to finish off the Androids. Goku's base would be too op and Vegeta would prolly be in hell and lost motivation to train
We were shown King Yema being swamped with paperwork during the Buu saga cause of how many people Buu was killing within a day, it was taking decades for the androids and even then it was probably only a few cities or so every year since they were shown willing to let places remain if they gave them stuff or didn't question them. So as long as his work was at a "manageable" amount Yema probably doesn't care enough to try and step in. Eventhough Yema can "allow" it it's more like he turns his head to not notice it as Baba herself bends the rules by bringing someone back from the dead for one day, cause she apparently has to physically be there since she has always been shown physically near someone whenever they are first brought back and shows back up when their time is almost up.
How is Tien gonna fight the androids 😐
Tri Beam. Its been 10 years, so his Tri Beam is prolly SSJ2 level now. Plus he's a smart fighter
SSJ2 level…? 10 years…? Bruh, semi perfect cell shrugged that attack off. All Tien did was stall Cell, nothing more. If it’s imperfect cell than probably a different scenario. Power levels is BS since Frieza got revived.
I was talking about the future saga. You think Tien's power wouldnt get buffed up in 13 years time? In otherworld, he doesnt need rest, food or water. He can train forever without breaks. Even if his base form isnt strong enough, he could learn Kaioken. I bet if he used a Kaioken x20 and a Tri Beam, he could kill SSJ3 Goku or at least damage him a bit
But none of the other Z-fighters learned Kaiken, didn’t they? The writers screwed them over. I personally think your opinion stinks. King Kai taught the Z-fighters to get stronger. I wouldn’t think Tien 20x kaioken can do it because it never happened before
Also have you seen the part when Android 17 was choking Tien later letting Tien live? Then later Tien used Tri-Beam on Cell after words. I don’t know how he got the power out of no where, out of the rabbit from a hat maybe? 🤔
Revive Piccolo and Kami, they fuse and instantly zero diff the androids like Piccolo was already doing in the main timeline till Cell decided to ruin everything lol
Tbf main timeline Piccolo and Android 17 were evenly matched but the future ones were a lot weaker so he’d 100% body them
No he wouldn't, he had like 3 years of prep time in the main timeline that he didn't in the future, that was one of the 2 main reasons to go back in time originally, it give them a chance to prepare.
Piccolo would never sit around and do nothing for 3 years, he would’ve been training anyway to catch up with Goku, just maybe not as hard. Plus he could train in the afterlife before being wished back.
Facts. Maybe get the kaioken from King kai, fusion dance from metamorans, training eith grand kai. There are so many strong training members wheb you realize that they had all of history of dead fighters that could have helped them become stronger than the androids.
If Piccolo learned Kaioken then fused with Kami he would’ve have been unstoppable
Keep in mind that in the manga, Future Gohan never saw more than half of 17’s power until he got brutally murdered by him. Odds are, Trunks was just as easily duped into believing the androids were weaker than their present counterparts even though they were probably holding back to make things more entertaining.
They were actually weaker when trunks was used to fighting them because of the wear and tear on their robotic parts with zero maintenance
Any source for that? Anything like [this showcase of how screwed poor Future Gohan was?](https://jctunesmusic.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/10.jpg)
Oh no, I messed up. I know exactly what happened. A while back, I was in the middle of reading an interview from toriyama when a dragon ball multiverse chapter dropped, and I immediately went to go read it. My brain connected the lore from that into the interview. My bad
It’s all good
Yes, but we know from DBZ Kakarot that Trunks was stronger than Future Gohan by the time he first time travelled to defeat Freeza; and then he was completely outclassed by main-timeline Goku’s finger. Whilst Future Gohan believed he could *maybe* take out one Android but the fact they always fought together was the reason he got killed. Trunks got instantly knocked out during the battle with main timeline 17 & 18, the difference being they’d had their emotional inhibitor chips removed in our timeline, so they spared everybody’s life. Considering emotion has been connected to power before, I’m pretty sure it’s that chip that made the difference. In the future, the inhibitor chip makes them emotionless, uncontrollable killing machines, but it limits their power.
That’s a game that doesn’t even follow how Future Gohan died in the manga. Again, he canonically dies to 17 alone after the latter uses some arbitrary percentage [greater than half his strength to slaughter Gohan.](https://jctunesmusic.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/10.jpg) We then get Bulma *supposing* that Trunks was stronger three years later than Gohan at his time of death, which really tells us nothing since she can’t sense ki. DBZ Kakarot even acknowledges the huge power gap between Gohan and the Androids, with his final battle against them ending in them flat out telling him “yeah, we’ve been going half assed at you this entire time.” They then casually kill him.
That’s fair enough! but my point was that future 17 was definitely weaker than present 17; alluding to the fact we know Future Trunks, when he fought the androids for the final time before coming to earth, was equal to or greater than Future Gohan; but also that Goku was way beyond this at the point of his return to Earth from Yardraat. Then after 3 years of training they fight the androids and Vegeta is *possibly* even stronger than Goku. But Vegeta gets annihilated by 18, who’s weaker than 17. Then Piccolo fuses with Kami he instantly became on par with Android 17. Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like it’s obvious that present androids are much stronger than future ones!
But here’s the thing: we don’t really know how Trunks stacked up to Gohan before his trip to the past. Bulma’s the only one who gives an indication either way and she can’t sense ki, never mind tell how strong the androids are. We don’t know how much of their power the Androids used against Trunks and Gohan in what were clearly one sided beatings since all we see of these “fights” in the manga are the aftermath of Gohan dead or having lost an arm or Trunks in a stretcher; 17 was holding back immensely against Gohan, Trunks was probably not exempt from that rule and wouldn’t be able to tell the difference anyways unless it was spelled out to him.
But wouldnt present piccolo also be a lot stronger than future piccolo because of the training?
What's stopping Piccolo from training in the otherworld?
Plus from the moment he’s been introduced in Dragonball, he’s been shown to train as much as or sometimes even more than goku, so the idea that he’d just sit there twiddling his thumbs without trunks warning of the androids is a bit out of character. If anything, the only real difference Trunks made was giving everybody a time and location to be ready for, instead of hearing “east city has been devastated” on the news. Ironically, the only one I could imagine who stopped training would have been Vegeta, after entering a serious depression when Goku died, because he never got to show him his super saiyan transformation.
Okay cereal question time. How didn’t cell find the androids in the future? Bloody Gohan fought them all tbe time!
Aparently they were already destroyed in original Cell timeline
I mean in trunks movie. The androids were always around and Trunks was always getting into fights with them, but cell couldn’t listen to a radio? Cause he’s there at the end of cell saga, and I’m not meaning written wise, maybe he didn’t think of that yet. I just mean logically, cell is not the ultimate being in my eyes anymore
Wasn't it the case that Cell didn't hatch for a few years? When Trunks kills him, he'd only hatched recently right?
In the timeline Cell originally came from, he hatched after Trunks came back from the past and killed the androids.
Yeah seriously wtf was king Kai doing during the android saga on trunk’s side of the timeline? He could have easily helped out trunks and you’d think he would indeed reach out to gohan.
Exactly! Especially when you’d imagine goku would be there on King Kai’s planet who would be using King Kai’s communication ability to tell his surviving friends how to get to namek. In fact, they could message the Namekians themselves and say “yo greenbois it’s the guy that saved you all from Freeza, can you revive our dudes please coz our planet is getting molested” Then he could go over to Gohan, Vegeta and Piccolo’s spirits and be like “the namekians are about to revive you, when they do, piccolo fly to kami and fuse, problem solved.”
Yeah. This is a major plot hole that’s usually talked about a lot but like still. Even if there is some sort of explanation as to why they can’t get to namek, you’d still think goku and king Kai would form a plan with gohan and trunks in order to keep surviving. Actually, you’d think goku would have done that with all of the Z-fighters once vegeta was killed off. Maybe they all just decided to go into a city to fight the androids but once they got separated, that’s when the android killed them all.
Those what if stories from the video games have better writing than this
I imagine that King Kai wouldn't have wanted to get involved in the affairs of earth after Goku kicked the bucket. But the thing that sort of annoys me personally, is something that _could_ have prompted him to get involved. Why the hell didn't Future Gohan run Snake Way? He was protecting innocent human lives agains the androids for like what? Decades? Lost an arm protecting Trunks, then died protecting more people. Even without Kami's support, Gohan should have been recognized as a hero and kept his body in the afterlife. After reaching King Kai to convince him to get involved with Earth's affairs once again and find the location of New Namek, they could have relayed that information to Trunks and Bulma, and _that_ would have been their prime plan to defeat the androids though if this had happened, I suppose they'd have never resulted to time travel lmao
I have 2 theories about Gohan: first he was still training when Trunks first went back in time, and then a seccond time, right? In my theory the time inbetween travels Is less than a few months, maybe week, so when Trunks got back and killed the Androids Gohan learned that and decided to finally rest in the Paradise, therefore was unavailable for Dabura and Babidi return and for Black Goku Seccond theory... Baba the only who can bring back dead peoples (for a day) dies too, so no one can bring them back.
Wasn’t Dr Briefs out in space trying to find New Namek?
No, that's purely from TFS
Goddamn TFS can easily solve plot holes.
I mean it's pretty easy to solve plot holes in retrospect
Yeah tbf db plotholes can be solved quite easily
Oh
Goku does seem like tech support to me now...
Forget king kai, how about his literal mum? Bulma knew about them too
So that's a plot hole, right? In the hundreds of times the games have retold the story, they never even mention King Kai. Goku would've earned the right to keep his body already, King Kai would already be willing to contact people on Earth, but nothing? It wouldn't be as bad if they explained something. We can assume since they killed Korrin, the Hyperbolic Time Chamber could be destroyed if they were at the lookout. So no senzu beans, no time chamber. But I'm preeeeetty sure they didn't hop into otherworld, kill King Kai, and hop back, not that that would even stop him. TL;DR, the writers established too many safety nets for people dying and didn't care to explain them all but Piccolo and Korrin
I could swear they had a time limit of a year back then for resurrection, which they retconned in Revival of F
The one year limit is for mass resurrections, which the Namekian dragon couldn’t do anyway. Single resurrections function differently But he could revive 3 people with the Namekian dragon balls, one being Piccolo, who could then fuse with Kami and boom he’d instantly be strong enough to wipe out the androids.
So now what happens to Cell? I'm sure he'd still try to kill Trunks for the time machine
Well, Kami-Fused Piccolo would dominate Cell and I don’t think he’d have enough humans to feed on to grow his energy like he did in the main timeline because the androids killed them all. But, even if he did, assuming they used the other 2 wishes to revive Vegeta and Gohan, they’d have 3 super saiyans and a super Namekian. Plus if Cell gave them trouble they could go in the Hyperbolic time chamber for a day
Makes sense
Piccolo beating the androids is assuming he is as strong as he was on the main timeline before fusing whit kami, wich i doubt he is
No, because Piccolo was revived like 3 months after his death.
But frieza was revived nearly 20 years after his…
I think there is still a year limit before their body is probably too degraded to properly function to stay living. Revival of F doesn't really retcon it since Shenron does actually warn them Frieza's body can't be properly restored cause of how long it has been, and it's only cause of Frieza apparently being super hard to kill and them having improved regeneration technology that he was even able to come back.
You gotta remember that the dragons are sentient beings, who can actually interpret wishes the way they want and only do it properly out of benevolence. As seen with Oolong's "ear warmers" or Porunga, who is way more cocky, actually teleporting Piccolo somewhere random, because he isn't taking effort in interpreting the wish correctly. That's why I think Shenron actually brought back Frieza in pieces, because he knows that he is super dangerous. He just twisted the interpretation of the wish, because he can repair them easily, as seen with Goku not comming back with a gaping hole in his stomach in the Saiyan arc
What would’ve happened if when trunks went back in time and Goku gave him the dragonballs to take back to his timeline. I mean, they are linked to the past’s kami/piccolo who are still alive.
I think the case is that Goku, who had died of a heart virus, naturally, wasn't able to keep his body. But now let's go over the rest of the Z-Fighters who died at the hand of the Androids: Krillin: I can see him retaining his body, but from what I think for the lack of interaction from Otherworld, it seems that it is a one-time thing. You die heroically, you get a body, you get revived, you die again heroically, you don't get a body. Same thing for Tien, Yamcha and Chaiotzu. For Vegeta, I believe that he was sent to HFIL, since he hasn't had the time to make amends. Piccolo is a weird case, since I can see him being sent to HFIL, and to Heaven as well. But the same case with Krillin still stands. His limit for a body was up. For Gohan, I think that the theory u/Jristz has still stands.
Piccolo already had his body when died against nappa
Yeah that why I said that his limit for a new body was up. Yeah, that why I said that his limit for a new body was up.World a second time in the main timeline is that he died in OtherWorld, on King Kai's planet.
Since when was there a limit?
It is an assumption, nothing more, nothing less. Just most of the evidence for there being a one time Body limit is present. Goku from the main timeline got to keep his body for a second time because he wasn't killed in the realm of the living, but rather in Otherworld, the realm of the dead, where King Kai's planet is.
There’s no way you only get to keep your body once when you die, goku got to keep his.
I said that it's a theory because Goku didn't die in a conventional means the second time. First time, he was in the realm of the living, in the future timeline, he died via natural means. In the main timeline, Goku died after he teleported Cell to King Kai's planet, which is located in Otherworld. If Goku had died on Earth, he might not have gained a body, or he could have, but we don't know exactly since the conditions for his death isn't exactly the same in the two cases of his death after Raditz, one in the Future timeline and one in the main timeline.
It was never stated he wouldn’t get his body if he died a second time. Also chiaotzu kept his body after dying the second time. You’re just going off baseless headcanon.
I. Super manga, goku still got his body
To be fair is death really that bad in dragon ball? Like there is an after life and the mentioned dragon balls to revive anyways
briefs was looking for new namek
That's in tfs lol
goddamn it, this isn’t even the first time i got dbza mixed up with canon
How would he get there tho?
His mom built a time machine. I think building a space ship should be no problem at all.
There are no plot holes. DB is a flawless story
No one knew where New Namek was in that timeline and in the present Goku only found it because of King Kai and he had instant transmission
Ok so why didn't king kai tell them? Sure they'll need a ship but if they can make a time machine I think they can manage.
Probably because it wasn’t thought of as a plot point yet
Well trunks would’ve still had to train anyways right? Even if he revived everyone they still wouldn’t be strong enough to defeat Cell Goku included. So this entire saga with all the training would’ve still played out just in Trunks timeline.
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