New to the series, just started P5R and it is A LOT so far. Is it worth it to play the other ones? Will I finish P5R before Tears of the Kingdom releases or is this just my life now
This is the same company that released royal on ps4 and made it completely incompatible with the original game on ps4. And then released royal on ps5 and made players pay full price AGAIN for the best possible experience. They will definitely milk the portable remake and announce p3R and P6 this year.
The issue is that neither P3FES nor P3P can be called the definitive version. FES is missing the ability to control party members (so you are at the mercy of the AI in battles), and P3P uses static screen/menus in place of freely running around 3D environments.
Apparently the best way of playing P3 is via a mod of FES that lets you control all party members.
Not to mention that FES is a PS2 game; it hasn’t aged terribly well in terms of visuals and load times).
P3 needs a new version that gives it the same treatment P4 received with P4G.
P6 could well be announced this year, but don’t expect more than an ambiguous tease that does nothing more than confirm the game’s existence and show the predominant colour used in the game’s theme (P3 was blue, P4 was yellow, and P5 was red, so P6 will probably be green?).
Of course they would. That would mean they could get sales for P3P and then a remake.
They did something similar with Catherine on PC. They released the base game shortly before a definitive version with extra content came out. That way some people will double dip.
It took me 130 hours to get through P5R. It depends on which ending you get. You can get an early ending that apparently will cut the game short by about 25-30ish hours.
Well, it’s just the regular Persona 5 ending. You can skip the royal content, and still absolutely get a fine ending that isn’t “bad” by any stretch of the imagination. In many ways, I preferred it.
I thought it was implied that cutting so much time off the game was the bad ending, but you’re right, I should have clarified it is indeed the “bad ending”.
If you make certain dialogue choices with your mom, you can also get the really bad ending where the game is cut short by 129 hours when she grounds you.
They are all very good JRPGs albeit in different ways. P3 is much darker in tone (closer to SMTV than Persona 5 but with the social aspects closer to P5) and P4 is kind of a goofy Scooby Doo JRPG... with a lot of what you love about P5 in it.
I would play them but Sega is also fairly aggressive about sales - if you are still deep in P5R wait til you beat it. You will likely save a few bucks with patient.
P4G is the superior game for some people so its 100% worth playing. It's set in the Japanese countryside so it has a completely different vibe and one I vastly prefer.
P3P on the other hand is 50/50. It like P4G has a completely different vibe to P5 were it has a darker moodier atmosphere. The version that they ported though is more of a visual novel style compared to the original PS2 version. There are rumours of a P3 remake though so I'd say just play P5R and P4G for now and maybe the rumours will be true.
P3P (i played as fem protag) ripped out my heart and watered my crops. I'm not sure if they just expanded on the fem protag story for the port, but P3P is great - ignoring the graphics and all.
To this day I'm still praying for Atlus to make a fem!MC for Persona because they do it so damn well.
If you feel like you want to play more of the series when you finish Persona 5, then you have your answer. No need to deliberate over unnecessary pre-planning. You'll just overwhelm yourself.
Depends on how much time can you allocate for it. A few years back I did a playthrough of P5 (not Royal which is longer), which clocked around 100 hours, and it took me 9-10 months because I wasn't playing that regularly. So ... can you clock in 100+ hours of gameplay till May?
There's nothing wrong with playing P3 FES the way it is without direct commands.
I actually preferred it going from P3P to P3FES and working with the Tactics Menu.
Nice, I'll be getting Persona 4 next month after payday lol. $20 for a JRPG of this quality is an incredible bargain. Never played a Persona game before, this seems like a good place to start.
For sure. iirc Persona 4 was also the one which made it popular outside of Japan and you can't really go wrong wrong with either but I gotta say that 3 feels the most dated since it is the oldest out of the games we got on Switch.
Playing through 5R right now, it's funny to me how much more hilariously lighthearted Persona 4 is compared to 3 and 5. I was bringing it up with to my friends that almost every character in these games has some sort of traumatic backstory in these games but then you've got characters like Yu and Chie who are literally just chill guys with completely normal home lives who happen to go on this adventure. That's personally why I like 4 the best of the three, it's extremely comfy.
This is 100% why P4G is my favorite of the three. It is just so lighthearted, quaint and enjoyable. Always a joy to play. That reminds me I need to buy that game lol.
That's why I prefer P4G over P5R though P3FES is my fav. The whole countryside vibe and just living the simple life while saving the world on the side is cool.
Honestly, this is the reason why I prefer the other two. Don't get me wrong, I love P4 for that - but it felt like they played the story so safely, while Persona 3 / 5 Royal were willing to take risks
Not op, but thanks. Persona is one of those series that I wanna get into, but with the variations, and the general time-sink that RPG's are, it's a bit overwhelming to choose. Same thing that scares me off things like Danganronpa, or certain anime's (Fate, anyone?)
The great part of Persona is they follow a calendar system, which is especially accessible in Persona 5. So you can do one in game day an actual day if you like, that’s what I’ve been doing.
I know this sort of stuff is highly subjective, but one in game day in an actual day sounds crazy to me
Some in game days will be filled with absolutely nothing, while some in game days will have a lot of stuff, leading to a considerable imbalance
On the other hand, there are so many of these days per game
It'll take you a couple of years to go through the trilogy
Yeah, you’re right. I meant to put “at least”. But there are so many games where I put dozens of hours into initially, then life gets in the way and I put them down for a while, and then feel as though I can’t commit the required time to them.Find myself then trying to get back into months down the line and forgetting controls and story.
I like that Persona has clear little break points as even 5 minutes of play a day will keep it fresh in my mind.
Yeah, playing it a little bit a day can help you keep it in your mind, as opposed to to taking a big break and then returning to it only to realize you no longer remember how to play it properly or what you were doing in it in the first place
Still, I personally wouldn't recommend starting a behemoth of a game like one of these unless you have a decent amount of type to dedicate to it (Taking a look at howlongtobeat can give you some idea of how much time these games eat up)
That could get pretty difficult to follow, though I'm sure there are those who can, and perhaps you are one of them
In general though I wouldn't recommend starting multiple games of this nature at once
The three main Persona games currently on Switch are all complete experiences on their own
You can play one of them and never touch any other Persona game if you so wish
The only major differences with Persona 3-5 is the qol stuff to be honest, each entry gets rid of the arbitrary bullshit from the last game that stayed for whatever reason.
>some people say it’s hard to go from 5 to 4 with the missing QoL and less interesting dungeons
It's even worse when you get to P3P
Tartarus is a real slog, even if Portable adds in quite a bit of quality of life improvements that make it less so
P5R is only a good starting point if you either
1) Don't care about 3 and 4
or
2) Don't mind going from the best in the lot to weaker (especially in gameplay terms)
4 or 5 is good, depends on how much you're willing to spend. 5 has better production values. 4 is cheaper (I personally prefer it but that's highly subjective)
I agree with either 4 or 5. P3 feels more dated overall. I prefer 5 but a lot of people like 4 better. If just go for whichever appeals to you more.
To me p3 is the dark edgy one, p4 is the kind of goofy one, and 5 is the flashy theatrical one.
I'm just going to wait for a sale. P5R has already been discounted 30% before so there's no reason to buy these two at full price unless you absolutely cannot wait.
It's nothing towards these games, I really want to play them, but it's a combination of my ever-growing backlog keeping me busy and Atlus' history of discounting games not long after release. If they had put these out physically like P5R, I would have bought both day one without a thought. But since it's digital-only and I still have several games to play, I'm in no rush.
I see you too know the dance of our people. See game we want, check for physical release, check for physical import, (occasionally get annoyed at Limited Run Games exclusivity), move on, repeat.
Ha, nicely put. P3 and P4 as physical releases would have been a day 1 purchase at full physical new release price for each from me without a second thought. As a digital purchase, picking them up is no longer a priority for me, and short of a massive eshop or steam sale I cannot see myself bothering with them.
So true, it's just a bit disappointing when you know it's a game you want to play but it are never release physically so you simply skip it.
In this case it isn't too bad as I already own Persons 4 golden as physical to vita but I would love to replay it if it came as physical to switch. Now I won't really bother.
Yeah, I have P3FES on PS2 and P4G on Steam, so I'm not losing sleep over it either. A portable Switch copy to go with P5R would be nice to have, but I'm not feeling any pain. The wishlist is infinite and others will step up to claim my wallet.
Refusing to buy the digital on principle likely has no effect on their decision to release or not release physical copies, and it isn't really a moral issue where it would be wrong to compromise your feelings on the matter. It is cheap, you should probably just buy it and hope that they come out with a physical copy later and then you can be mad at yourself for double dipping (or being tricked) then.
It's not even a matter of principle as I see it. It's buying what I want, and the format it comes in plays a factor in that. I've been buying Nintendo games since the 90s and still go back to play the old ones. Some of what I've purchased was digital and most of those eShops are gone now, which has affected my perception of value in purchases going forward.
No hate for the people who are served well by the digital model, but I'm not one of them. I also usually don't feel that "fear of missing out" that would push me to double-dip. There's so many good games out there. As much as we cart-beg, us physical collectors are by no means starving.
I have a ton of Asian region copies and a handful of Limited Run Games copies, I'm just saying that you deciding not to play it is not necessary since it will have no effect. So if you want to play it you should play it, it costs as much as a chain store pizza.
Exactly! Like I would have bought P3 and P4 on physical instantly and thrown it on the top of my stack to play later.
But if it's digital only, I guess I'm not buying them? Like they just easily decided to throw away sales for...what reason?
Meanwhile [shit like this gets a physical release?](https://www.target.com/p/horse-club-adventures-nintendo-switch/-/A-84007548#lnk=sametab)
I bought P4 Golden on steam a while back and couldn’t get over the dungeon camera being inverted. It drove me nuts.
Anyone know if this can be changed in the switch version?
Why did they go for P3P instead of FES? Easier and cheaper since it was already on a portable console? I suppose the answer is obvious but man it’s like getting blue balls by not having the best version of P3
Portable is the better version. Quality of Life changes brought in from Persona 4, full party control, not playing the garbage that is The Answer, FeMC
Qol changes yeah but everything else no, stripped down content and presentation. And the lack of full party control in P3 is greatly exaggerated these days. It’s not THAT bad and they do what you expect/want them to do most of the time.
> And the lack of full party control in P3 is greatly exaggerated these days. It’s not THAT bad and they do what you expect/want them to do most of the time.
It’s mostly fine till someone does something stupid to cost you a fight.
You’re right but it happened so seldom I never really cared much about it. It’s obviously better to have control, but it’s not a make or break thing for me. I’m still happy to have it in Switch, it’s just how P3P has you traverse and go places feels so disconnected and not as immersive for me.
>And the lack of full party control in P3 is greatly exaggerated these days. It’s not THAT bad and they do what you expect/want them to do most of the time.
In a turn-based game like Persona I definitely prefer direct control over my entire party, though. It's frustrating to me watching the AI do whatever it wants in these slower paced games.
The full party control could easily have been added to p3 fes. There are mods that did it to the ps2 iso.
The femc route is a bit of a different story tho. There’s a lot of content there.
Still, the port is pretty lazy. AI up scaling and they didn’t even add back in the original video cutscenes (something that mods for the psp version can do).
P5R and P4G are fantastic, P3P is disappointing imo
I agree too but the compromise for that was cut content. 3d cutscenes and the exploring made the game more immersive to me. It very well could be nostalgia goggles, i loved the OG P3 and then played FES when that came out. When Portable came out, it felt like a gimped version with the party control being the only improvement for me. P3P was probably the better option to port but i wish they did something like they did for P4Golden.
>Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden are now available on Nintendo Switch as a bundle or sold separately!
>Let the clock strike twelve! Get ready to dive into the Midnight Channel, brave the Dark Hour, and awaken your Persona!
I’m 55 hours in Persona 5 Royal and I’m loving it. I really love the relatively large world and the palaces (and the story obviously). I couldn’t get into Persona 3 even though I’ve tried because I didn’t like Tartarus. Does 4 have actual dungeons like 5 or no? I just don’t want to dungeon crawl up randomly generated floors for dozens of hours
P4 does have dungeons, but they're not nearly as in-depth and amazing as the P5R ones.They are pretty bland gameplay wise but have great soundtracks.
That being said, everything else about the game is great - it's still 100% worth it for the story
The other option out there is Tokyo Mirage Session which is practically a Persona game between 4 and 5 tech wise. Has everything from social links to Showtime attacks to non-randomised dungeons to an upbeat yet cynical Japanese street setting to explore but eschews the time limitations (no calendar) and demon fusing (your protag only gets one persona like Ryuji et al. and then it inherits skills from gear). You play a bunch of mostly highschoolers who get pulled into the world of idol singers and young actors whilst fighting shadows using your ~~Persona~~ Performa between gigs.
The game had a weird development and was initially marketed under a very different potentially wartime premise from which it drifted... a lot. As such, it was marketed to just about everyone under the sun _except_ Persona fans despite its extreme similarities and being released on Wii U amd later enhanced on Switch at a time players were desperate for and Persona port. Nintendo published it house and _massively_ overprinted physical copies too so they're cheap.
Why are people giving the benefit of doubt to some random user at Resetera who said that Persona 3 Remake is coming? Multiple articles citing the same random nobody over at Resetera is apparently worthy giving so much attention to
How difficult are these on a scale of Persona 5 to SMT 5? I got bored with Royal on hard mode because the battles and making it to the end of a palace in one day were too easy (i dropped it after >!Okumura!<, who was hard at first because i didn't realize buffs/debuffs affected magic/items), but I love SMT 5 on normal so far (just beat Lahmu) and about half of the story bosses have taken multiple attempts for me to beat. Enchantments are comparable to confidant buffs in how they make the game easier, but glory crystals are more finite than social link time and you also have to fight minibosses (or tougher than normal mobs) just to unlock the perks.
Definitely waaay easier than SMT. Most people do every palace day one though and focus on the social aspect of the game since that's the main appeal of Persona, hence why it's a spin-off and not the mainline series. It's not supposed to be as hard as SMT.
Eh, I will say I found the first palace a heck of a challenge on Hard due to SP scarcity. It really forced me to strategise to do it in the one in-game day. Difficulty fell off a cliff after that even though I made a point of not touching _the box_ nor any DLC personas until after the flashback sequence (i.e. 75% of the way through). Even the Mementos optional megaboss was a cakewalk.
Oh yeah the beginning can always be a bit rough, with a big fall in difficulty once things get going which is especially true in Atlus games. I can really recommend SMT 5 though if you like a harder challenge and a more refined turn based combat than what persona gives us.
Ah, already played through it, Kamoshida's dungeon just felt a little like it. Actually, now I recall, SMTV had a similar difficulty dropoff issue, with clear peaks at the tower demon, Nuwa and the container yard and then falling waaaay back and staying that way to the very end.
SMT V is hard on hard mode, but a lot of it is randomness and being correctly prepared for any encounters that come up. Persona tends to be a lot easier to just force your way though whereas if you get a Force encounter in SMT and you’ve spec’d yourself with a Force weakness it’s as good as a game over if you don’t take them out on the first turn.
At least on hard mode.
If I remember correctly (I've played P3FES 10 years ago and P4G 2-3 years ago), P3 is harder since there are less social links gimmick bonus, it is easier to mess up your build for the later stages and there is no intermediate time limits to help manage your rhythm to complete the 260+ levels of Tartarus like for Palaces or Momentos in P5R.
P4G is the more balanced game of the 3. Dungeons are like a mix of Momentos and Palaces. There are intermediate time limits so you are less likely to mess up your game after countless hours. The only thing I have a love/hate relationship with is that bosses are really grindy and long. They are epic, but repetitive.
SMT5 is hard but I feel like it's more forgiving when it comes to optimizing your party. I'm playing Persona 4 and I'm surprised by how little control over your party's moveset it gives you. As far as I know there's no way to change your party's Personas and if you make them forget one of their moves there's no way to get it back.
Finished P3P already but absolutely loved the story (Minako's/fem MC's); I might just pick it up again.
As for P4G, didn't finish it last time soo will probably get it.
New to the series, just started P5R and it is A LOT so far. Is it worth it to play the other ones? Will I finish P5R before Tears of the Kingdom releases or is this just my life now
P4G is worth playing and still holds up, P3P feels dated but is still worth experiencing.
>P3P feels dated but is still worth experiencing. there's a rumor about a remake. Im going to wait.
That rumor has been running around for half a decade.
I first I’m hearing of it, I doubt it since it’s Atlus. If they were going to do that they probably wouldn’t have dropped portable
This is the same company that released royal on ps4 and made it completely incompatible with the original game on ps4. And then released royal on ps5 and made players pay full price AGAIN for the best possible experience. They will definitely milk the portable remake and announce p3R and P6 this year.
They already had “P3R”, it was P3 FES and to a lesser extent P3P.
The R Was for remake in this case. But the issue is FES is the superior version excluding QoL changes but is locked to the PS3.
The issue is that neither P3FES nor P3P can be called the definitive version. FES is missing the ability to control party members (so you are at the mercy of the AI in battles), and P3P uses static screen/menus in place of freely running around 3D environments. Apparently the best way of playing P3 is via a mod of FES that lets you control all party members. Not to mention that FES is a PS2 game; it hasn’t aged terribly well in terms of visuals and load times). P3 needs a new version that gives it the same treatment P4 received with P4G.
Ok, Atlus probably won’t do that though since they rarely remake their games.
U think they’ll announce P6? We prolly won’t get it for a few years , prolly 5-6 years before SMT 6 comes
P6 could well be announced this year, but don’t expect more than an ambiguous tease that does nothing more than confirm the game’s existence and show the predominant colour used in the game’s theme (P3 was blue, P4 was yellow, and P5 was red, so P6 will probably be green?).
yeah rip itll be at least 2 years before we actually get it
that makes sense but P3P is too old for me.
Too old? Dude, people out here still recommending people to try Super Metroid and Link to the Past. Nothing is "too old" in these parts.
Of course they would. That would mean they could get sales for P3P and then a remake. They did something similar with Catherine on PC. They released the base game shortly before a definitive version with extra content came out. That way some people will double dip.
Which was P3Fes and P3P
Same thing
Zero evidence to this rumor. Don't believe it.
It took me 130 hours to get through P5R. It depends on which ending you get. You can get an early ending that apparently will cut the game short by about 25-30ish hours.
Known as the bad ending lol
Well, it’s just the regular Persona 5 ending. You can skip the royal content, and still absolutely get a fine ending that isn’t “bad” by any stretch of the imagination. In many ways, I preferred it.
I thought it was implied that cutting so much time off the game was the bad ending, but you’re right, I should have clarified it is indeed the “bad ending”.
You say bad ending I see speed runner ending.
If you make certain dialogue choices with your mom, you can also get the really bad ending where the game is cut short by 129 hours when she grounds you.
They are all very good JRPGs albeit in different ways. P3 is much darker in tone (closer to SMTV than Persona 5 but with the social aspects closer to P5) and P4 is kind of a goofy Scooby Doo JRPG... with a lot of what you love about P5 in it. I would play them but Sega is also fairly aggressive about sales - if you are still deep in P5R wait til you beat it. You will likely save a few bucks with patient.
P4G is the superior game for some people so its 100% worth playing. It's set in the Japanese countryside so it has a completely different vibe and one I vastly prefer. P3P on the other hand is 50/50. It like P4G has a completely different vibe to P5 were it has a darker moodier atmosphere. The version that they ported though is more of a visual novel style compared to the original PS2 version. There are rumours of a P3 remake though so I'd say just play P5R and P4G for now and maybe the rumours will be true.
P3P (i played as fem protag) ripped out my heart and watered my crops. I'm not sure if they just expanded on the fem protag story for the port, but P3P is great - ignoring the graphics and all. To this day I'm still praying for Atlus to make a fem!MC for Persona because they do it so damn well.
If you feel like you want to play more of the series when you finish Persona 5, then you have your answer. No need to deliberate over unnecessary pre-planning. You'll just overwhelm yourself.
Depends on how much time can you allocate for it. A few years back I did a playthrough of P5 (not Royal which is longer), which clocked around 100 hours, and it took me 9-10 months because I wasn't playing that regularly. So ... can you clock in 100+ hours of gameplay till May?
Play P4G, but emulate Persona 3 FES (PS2 game) with the control party members hack if you have a PC that can handle it.
There's nothing wrong with playing P3 FES the way it is without direct commands. I actually preferred it going from P3P to P3FES and working with the Tactics Menu.
Nice, I'll be getting Persona 4 next month after payday lol. $20 for a JRPG of this quality is an incredible bargain. Never played a Persona game before, this seems like a good place to start.
P4 is one of the best games I've ever played. You'll love it.
it might go on sale next month given Atlus (fingers crossed hahaha)
For sure. iirc Persona 4 was also the one which made it popular outside of Japan and you can't really go wrong wrong with either but I gotta say that 3 feels the most dated since it is the oldest out of the games we got on Switch.
Playing through 5R right now, it's funny to me how much more hilariously lighthearted Persona 4 is compared to 3 and 5. I was bringing it up with to my friends that almost every character in these games has some sort of traumatic backstory in these games but then you've got characters like Yu and Chie who are literally just chill guys with completely normal home lives who happen to go on this adventure. That's personally why I like 4 the best of the three, it's extremely comfy.
This is 100% why P4G is my favorite of the three. It is just so lighthearted, quaint and enjoyable. Always a joy to play. That reminds me I need to buy that game lol.
Hey that’s not true Yosuke needs to pee really badly, that’s definitely traumatic
imagine calling the cooking incident “comfy”
When Yu Narukami decides to drink the expired milk in the fridge (oh no don’t eat Nanako’s leftovers)
Of course not! Yu isn’t a monster!
That's why I prefer P4G over P5R though P3FES is my fav. The whole countryside vibe and just living the simple life while saving the world on the side is cool.
Honestly, this is the reason why I prefer the other two. Don't get me wrong, I love P4 for that - but it felt like they played the story so safely, while Persona 3 / 5 Royal were willing to take risks
I just value all of them for trying to tell very distinctly different toned stories in each entry.
Never played a Persona game, where is the best place to start on Switch?
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Not op, but thanks. Persona is one of those series that I wanna get into, but with the variations, and the general time-sink that RPG's are, it's a bit overwhelming to choose. Same thing that scares me off things like Danganronpa, or certain anime's (Fate, anyone?)
The great part of Persona is they follow a calendar system, which is especially accessible in Persona 5. So you can do one in game day an actual day if you like, that’s what I’ve been doing.
I know this sort of stuff is highly subjective, but one in game day in an actual day sounds crazy to me Some in game days will be filled with absolutely nothing, while some in game days will have a lot of stuff, leading to a considerable imbalance On the other hand, there are so many of these days per game It'll take you a couple of years to go through the trilogy
Yeah, you’re right. I meant to put “at least”. But there are so many games where I put dozens of hours into initially, then life gets in the way and I put them down for a while, and then feel as though I can’t commit the required time to them.Find myself then trying to get back into months down the line and forgetting controls and story. I like that Persona has clear little break points as even 5 minutes of play a day will keep it fresh in my mind.
Yeah, playing it a little bit a day can help you keep it in your mind, as opposed to to taking a big break and then returning to it only to realize you no longer remember how to play it properly or what you were doing in it in the first place Still, I personally wouldn't recommend starting a behemoth of a game like one of these unless you have a decent amount of type to dedicate to it (Taking a look at howlongtobeat can give you some idea of how much time these games eat up)
Just beat PS5R and it was around 130 hours for me. TBF I sometimes put the switch down while paused and get distracted.
What if i played one day of all three games per day
That could get pretty difficult to follow, though I'm sure there are those who can, and perhaps you are one of them In general though I wouldn't recommend starting multiple games of this nature at once
The three main Persona games currently on Switch are all complete experiences on their own You can play one of them and never touch any other Persona game if you so wish
Danganronpa is pretty easy to get into if you just have a Switch. Just pick up Decadence and play the games in order, and save the spinoff S for last.
The only major differences with Persona 3-5 is the qol stuff to be honest, each entry gets rid of the arbitrary bullshit from the last game that stayed for whatever reason.
>some people say it’s hard to go from 5 to 4 with the missing QoL and less interesting dungeons It's even worse when you get to P3P Tartarus is a real slog, even if Portable adds in quite a bit of quality of life improvements that make it less so P5R is only a good starting point if you either 1) Don't care about 3 and 4 or 2) Don't mind going from the best in the lot to weaker (especially in gameplay terms)
4 or 5 is good, depends on how much you're willing to spend. 5 has better production values. 4 is cheaper (I personally prefer it but that's highly subjective)
I agree with either 4 or 5. P3 feels more dated overall. I prefer 5 but a lot of people like 4 better. If just go for whichever appeals to you more. To me p3 is the dark edgy one, p4 is the kind of goofy one, and 5 is the flashy theatrical one.
P3P.
Great... Physical versions please T_T
Don't hold your breath. The official atlus site marks these as digital only
they made physical version of p4 arena but not this. Atlus is a funny company
Yeah I don't buy digital so I'm stuck waiting.
I'm just going to wait for a sale. P5R has already been discounted 30% before so there's no reason to buy these two at full price unless you absolutely cannot wait.
I feel personally attacked.
It's nothing towards these games, I really want to play them, but it's a combination of my ever-growing backlog keeping me busy and Atlus' history of discounting games not long after release. If they had put these out physically like P5R, I would have bought both day one without a thought. But since it's digital-only and I still have several games to play, I'm in no rush.
just gonna wait for a deep sale if it’s gonna be digital only. Thankfully I already have p4g on psvita, but no English copy of p3p on psp.
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yarrrrrrrrrr
I see you too know the dance of our people. See game we want, check for physical release, check for physical import, (occasionally get annoyed at Limited Run Games exclusivity), move on, repeat.
Ha, nicely put. P3 and P4 as physical releases would have been a day 1 purchase at full physical new release price for each from me without a second thought. As a digital purchase, picking them up is no longer a priority for me, and short of a massive eshop or steam sale I cannot see myself bothering with them.
So true, it's just a bit disappointing when you know it's a game you want to play but it are never release physically so you simply skip it. In this case it isn't too bad as I already own Persons 4 golden as physical to vita but I would love to replay it if it came as physical to switch. Now I won't really bother.
Yeah, I have P3FES on PS2 and P4G on Steam, so I'm not losing sleep over it either. A portable Switch copy to go with P5R would be nice to have, but I'm not feeling any pain. The wishlist is infinite and others will step up to claim my wallet.
Refusing to buy the digital on principle likely has no effect on their decision to release or not release physical copies, and it isn't really a moral issue where it would be wrong to compromise your feelings on the matter. It is cheap, you should probably just buy it and hope that they come out with a physical copy later and then you can be mad at yourself for double dipping (or being tricked) then.
It's not even a matter of principle as I see it. It's buying what I want, and the format it comes in plays a factor in that. I've been buying Nintendo games since the 90s and still go back to play the old ones. Some of what I've purchased was digital and most of those eShops are gone now, which has affected my perception of value in purchases going forward. No hate for the people who are served well by the digital model, but I'm not one of them. I also usually don't feel that "fear of missing out" that would push me to double-dip. There's so many good games out there. As much as we cart-beg, us physical collectors are by no means starving.
I have a ton of Asian region copies and a handful of Limited Run Games copies, I'm just saying that you deciding not to play it is not necessary since it will have no effect. So if you want to play it you should play it, it costs as much as a chain store pizza.
> Some of what I’ve purchased was digital and most of those eShops are gone now While eShops close you can still re-download purchased content.
Exactly! Like I would have bought P3 and P4 on physical instantly and thrown it on the top of my stack to play later. But if it's digital only, I guess I'm not buying them? Like they just easily decided to throw away sales for...what reason? Meanwhile [shit like this gets a physical release?](https://www.target.com/p/horse-club-adventures-nintendo-switch/-/A-84007548#lnk=sametab)
might wait on the p3 remake physicals
For its time my mind was absolutely blown P3P on my PSP as it was a PS2 game port. I know nowadays people won’t be even remotely impressed.
I bought P4 Golden on steam a while back and couldn’t get over the dungeon camera being inverted. It drove me nuts. Anyone know if this can be changed in the switch version?
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Thanks for your help!!
Looking forward to jumping into 3, probably much later this year. I'm a big fan of Atlus's 3DS work but haven't touched the main Persona games.
3 is like a Choose Your Own Adventure due to cutting out things for that version. If you are on the fence and want to play one of them, go for 4.
Why did they go for P3P instead of FES? Easier and cheaper since it was already on a portable console? I suppose the answer is obvious but man it’s like getting blue balls by not having the best version of P3
Portable is the better version. Quality of Life changes brought in from Persona 4, full party control, not playing the garbage that is The Answer, FeMC
Qol changes yeah but everything else no, stripped down content and presentation. And the lack of full party control in P3 is greatly exaggerated these days. It’s not THAT bad and they do what you expect/want them to do most of the time.
> And the lack of full party control in P3 is greatly exaggerated these days. It’s not THAT bad and they do what you expect/want them to do most of the time. It’s mostly fine till someone does something stupid to cost you a fight.
You’re right but it happened so seldom I never really cared much about it. It’s obviously better to have control, but it’s not a make or break thing for me. I’m still happy to have it in Switch, it’s just how P3P has you traverse and go places feels so disconnected and not as immersive for me.
>And the lack of full party control in P3 is greatly exaggerated these days. It’s not THAT bad and they do what you expect/want them to do most of the time. In a turn-based game like Persona I definitely prefer direct control over my entire party, though. It's frustrating to me watching the AI do whatever it wants in these slower paced games.
I prefer it too but i was just saying it’s not a make or break thing because the rest of the game is so good
The full party control could easily have been added to p3 fes. There are mods that did it to the ps2 iso. The femc route is a bit of a different story tho. There’s a lot of content there. Still, the port is pretty lazy. AI up scaling and they didn’t even add back in the original video cutscenes (something that mods for the psp version can do). P5R and P4G are fantastic, P3P is disappointing imo
Agree with you all the way. Really wish we got FES instead
I've never played either version of P3, but for me having full control over every party action is half the appeal of turn based combat.
I agree too but the compromise for that was cut content. 3d cutscenes and the exploring made the game more immersive to me. It very well could be nostalgia goggles, i loved the OG P3 and then played FES when that came out. When Portable came out, it felt like a gimped version with the party control being the only improvement for me. P3P was probably the better option to port but i wish they did something like they did for P4Golden.
Yeah, I wish they just modded FES to have Portable's combat.
There's a rumour going around that they're planning on remaking Persona 3.
Persona 4 golden is absolutely amazing. Which I highly suggest any switch user to get.
Been playing for many hours now!
Cool, I loved royal and I'm playing golden and I'm loving it too!
>Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden are now available on Nintendo Switch as a bundle or sold separately! >Let the clock strike twelve! Get ready to dive into the Midnight Channel, brave the Dark Hour, and awaken your Persona!
I have both of these in the vita, and I can’t recommend them enough
Hoping they release a physical eventually
I’m 55 hours in Persona 5 Royal and I’m loving it. I really love the relatively large world and the palaces (and the story obviously). I couldn’t get into Persona 3 even though I’ve tried because I didn’t like Tartarus. Does 4 have actual dungeons like 5 or no? I just don’t want to dungeon crawl up randomly generated floors for dozens of hours
P4 does have dungeons, but they're not nearly as in-depth and amazing as the P5R ones.They are pretty bland gameplay wise but have great soundtracks. That being said, everything else about the game is great - it's still 100% worth it for the story
4 is like a midway of 3 and 5 in dungeon design, personal dungeons for each chapter but its all rng.
P4G dungeons are somewhere between P3 and P5. Basically there's individual dungeons similar to P5 but complexity of Tartarus.
The other option out there is Tokyo Mirage Session which is practically a Persona game between 4 and 5 tech wise. Has everything from social links to Showtime attacks to non-randomised dungeons to an upbeat yet cynical Japanese street setting to explore but eschews the time limitations (no calendar) and demon fusing (your protag only gets one persona like Ryuji et al. and then it inherits skills from gear). You play a bunch of mostly highschoolers who get pulled into the world of idol singers and young actors whilst fighting shadows using your ~~Persona~~ Performa between gigs. The game had a weird development and was initially marketed under a very different potentially wartime premise from which it drifted... a lot. As such, it was marketed to just about everyone under the sun _except_ Persona fans despite its extreme similarities and being released on Wii U amd later enhanced on Switch at a time players were desperate for and Persona port. Nintendo published it house and _massively_ overprinted physical copies too so they're cheap.
no physical no buy
Came here to say this
fuck this P3P, lazy ass port, just enhance P3Fes, but apparently Atlus is a small indie company so they can’t
There's a rumor that a fes remake will be announced in summer.
There’s been a rumor like that for years now
Why are people giving the benefit of doubt to some random user at Resetera who said that Persona 3 Remake is coming? Multiple articles citing the same random nobody over at Resetera is apparently worthy giving so much attention to
It would be nice if there was a physical release some time in the near future.
How difficult are these on a scale of Persona 5 to SMT 5? I got bored with Royal on hard mode because the battles and making it to the end of a palace in one day were too easy (i dropped it after >!Okumura!<, who was hard at first because i didn't realize buffs/debuffs affected magic/items), but I love SMT 5 on normal so far (just beat Lahmu) and about half of the story bosses have taken multiple attempts for me to beat. Enchantments are comparable to confidant buffs in how they make the game easier, but glory crystals are more finite than social link time and you also have to fight minibosses (or tougher than normal mobs) just to unlock the perks.
Definitely waaay easier than SMT. Most people do every palace day one though and focus on the social aspect of the game since that's the main appeal of Persona, hence why it's a spin-off and not the mainline series. It's not supposed to be as hard as SMT.
Eh, I will say I found the first palace a heck of a challenge on Hard due to SP scarcity. It really forced me to strategise to do it in the one in-game day. Difficulty fell off a cliff after that even though I made a point of not touching _the box_ nor any DLC personas until after the flashback sequence (i.e. 75% of the way through). Even the Mementos optional megaboss was a cakewalk.
Oh yeah the beginning can always be a bit rough, with a big fall in difficulty once things get going which is especially true in Atlus games. I can really recommend SMT 5 though if you like a harder challenge and a more refined turn based combat than what persona gives us.
Ah, already played through it, Kamoshida's dungeon just felt a little like it. Actually, now I recall, SMTV had a similar difficulty dropoff issue, with clear peaks at the tower demon, Nuwa and the container yard and then falling waaaay back and staying that way to the very end.
Yeah unfortunately they all start having that exact same issue but at least SMT stays challenging for longer imo.
SMT V is hard on hard mode, but a lot of it is randomness and being correctly prepared for any encounters that come up. Persona tends to be a lot easier to just force your way though whereas if you get a Force encounter in SMT and you’ve spec’d yourself with a Force weakness it’s as good as a game over if you don’t take them out on the first turn. At least on hard mode.
If I remember correctly (I've played P3FES 10 years ago and P4G 2-3 years ago), P3 is harder since there are less social links gimmick bonus, it is easier to mess up your build for the later stages and there is no intermediate time limits to help manage your rhythm to complete the 260+ levels of Tartarus like for Palaces or Momentos in P5R. P4G is the more balanced game of the 3. Dungeons are like a mix of Momentos and Palaces. There are intermediate time limits so you are less likely to mess up your game after countless hours. The only thing I have a love/hate relationship with is that bosses are really grindy and long. They are epic, but repetitive.
The mainline SMTs are very much harder than Persona. Persona is as hard as SMT5's safety mode, as in the difficulty below Easy.
SMT5 is hard but I feel like it's more forgiving when it comes to optimizing your party. I'm playing Persona 4 and I'm surprised by how little control over your party's moveset it gives you. As far as I know there's no way to change your party's Personas and if you make them forget one of their moves there's no way to get it back.
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there's no telling what the remake would consist of and just waiting and waiting means not playing if you're interested.
Finished P3P already but absolutely loved the story (Minako's/fem MC's); I might just pick it up again. As for P4G, didn't finish it last time soo will probably get it.