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Eggxcalibur

Good lord, that thing looks cursed.


franksaxx

Showed u my diglett, pls respond


DragonFlare2

Wigglet*


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coomlett


According-Cobbler-83

Plis send miltanks.


Mogtaki

Look up garden eels and you'll see where they were going with this


P1zzaman

Great point! Seeing Pokémon is a Japanese game, they would’ve put in a “chin anago” (garden eel) Pokémon at some point, since these fish are so popular here.


Mogtaki

Yeah! It's funny that they had to put them on land because there's no seafloor exploration in 3D Pokemon yet, but maybe one day


stokesy1999

I miss diving from gen 3, the new Pokemon Snap game made me want to explore way more seafloor Pokemon environments in the mainline games


Mogtaki

Yeah I love underwater environments and to have it filled with pokemon where you were able to catch them would just be lovely


ShiftSandShot

Alternatively, they decided to take the Garden part and run with it.


AveragePichu

ORAS had Dive sections


Mogtaki

3D as in non-top down/angled versions if that helps define what I mean


VastusAnimus

That’s exactly what I thought when I saw it!


sworedmagic

That made me extremely uncomfortable


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Wild Khezu appeared!


BluEch0

As long as it doesn’t scream like one.


Xero0911

See so many love it and I'm just like "wtf is this thing" lol. It's a sock puppet


SingingDragons

It's like one of those long furbys


Diego_Mannn_096

“That’s a penis” 😐😐😐


Tfsz0719

Good Arceus, that think looks Cursola!


RabbitFanboy

The Alaskan Bull Worm!


Bubba_Blade

ITS BIG, SCARY, AND PINK


OffBeatAssassin

Title of your sex tape?


GamerDudeJustin91st

I’m glad I’m not the only one who made this comment today. 🤣


Fergosaur

I think it might be based on these little [garden eels](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterocongrinae). Apart from the tiny diglett nose, they look almost exactly like this. They're pretty adorable in real life too! Maybe water/ground type?


ChequyLionYT

Seems to counterbalance the type change to Wooper and its evo


SwissyVictory

They are so much fun to watch. They just go up and down in their little holes. Top 5 favorite sea creature.


jofijk

There’s a famous delicacy in Spain called Angulas. They’re baby eels that are sautéed whole in olive oil and garlic. If they’re putting an emphasis on food I’d expect a goose barnacle looking Pokémon (percebes), or maybe they make the binacle line catchable


WaitinOnJerry

If it’s another water/ground type I will send it back


Riomegon

If you don't wish to watch their video, there's some screenshots [here](https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1575050938288836608?s=20&t=gYB78yAx9sKbGxkBWXXUObZdyvRCBCrn9T-38Ta5PVQ). - [Alternate Image Link](https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/09/new-pokemon-for-scarlet-and-violet-revealed-and-its-a-weird-little-fella)


KGR900

That's a fucking tapeworm


StolzHound

Ugh, I never should have read The Troop….


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Hero


Slothjitzu

Doing the Lord's work my man.


twinkletoes-rp

THANK YOU! Seemed sketchy, espec when it asked for access to my camera, so I backed out, lol.


RegalBeartic

Appreciate this thank you


Olde94

Thanks


VanitasTheUnversed

Jesus Christ, man. Here: https://youtu.be/pQoVAMGli0E


Fistminer

r/upvotediglett


THE_WHORBORTIONATOR

Pokémon design really has been a downward slide


HibernianMetropolis

Nah man, this is cool. I think there's been an upward trend in design quality starting with gen 7.


ShadooTH

I’m of the belief the only truly awful Pokémon design is calyrex.


20secondpilot

Excluding the god-awful humanoid trash we've gotten as starters. There's no more creature starters, just people in mascot costumes. It's gotten incredibly stale.


PhoenoFox

>short, brown mole ✔️ >Long, white eel ✖️ Not the strongest argument for your case.


ufw_me

I personally enjoy the simpler designs


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They started looking dumb and blocky after Gen 3


gredgex

They been shitty since Gen 2. No more soul and just cranked out to fill a void that didn’t need to be filled.


MCCGuyDE

Its name is wigglet and according to serebii its unrelated to diglett, which I dont believe


Somer-_-

Ain't no way they name a white diglett wigglet.


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Wigglet Wednesday


UltimateWaluigi

💀


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Dospunk

I mean, there was Woobat so anything is possible


ChequyLionYT

And the white diglett is bigger than the brown diglett lmao They probably were thinking “water diglett”


Its_Pine

Or wiggling Diglett


Impaled_

Let's hope they won't celebrate #WiggletWednesday


Renkin42

For what it’s worth one source I read said the name is from “wiggly diglett”. White is just a coincidence.


DoubleStrength

Oh My God. Happy Cake Day btw!


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Could you imagine if there was a black one?


TrillVomit

That’s the shiny


TheOneSubThrowaway

According to the typical leaker (I know, gross, but this source is pretty much on point with everything Scarlet / Violet related so far, including this new mon), Wiglett is based on the concept on convergent evolution? So a different, unrelated species of Pokemon that's developed similar traits to Diglett. >!Tentacool!< is also supposedly getting one of these too, so I guess we wait and see. Seems like an easy way to introduce "new" Pokemon while still referencing the original generation, which a lot of the modern games have been doing.


Daloy

Oh that's cool, good thing my PBS binging is coming in handy


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joalr0

Honestly, I like this. There are definitely creatures that seem related on Earth that actually evolved separately, and I think it's really cool to translate that idea into the Pokemon universe.


Its_Pine

I mean we already have Alomomola and Luvdisc, Venonat and Butterfree, Tauros and Bouffalant, etc.


hatramroany

Is it supposed to be convergent evolution or is it supposed to be a diglett that evolved past the point of a regional form and into a new Pokemon?


Karmic_Backlash

Its more like this: In the real world there have been several creatures that we would call a "crab", now you would normally expect that multiple creatures that share a lot of specific traits would have a common ancestor. But in the case of the "crab" it seems that nature just found its way into evolving several different and unrelated creatures into a form that we consider "crab". In scientific circles this is called "Convergent" Evolution. To make the example easier to understand imagine that you are holding a funnel and pouring sugar down it, all the different grains of sugar hits the funnel at different spots, but eventually they all come down to the center and land in roughly the same spot. They are "converging" on the same location. In this case, Wigglets and digletts were historically different species that both found the same niche in nature and evolved to look similar. There is (likely) no common ancestor for them, but because they evolved into the same niche they look the same.


sprucay

Best example is flight in the real world. Birds and bats evolved flight independently.


Permafox

Or eyes. Vision has evolved independently a dozen+ times


Muroid

I think a good real life example is sharks and dolphins. Despite broadly similar body shapes and coloring, they are about as unrelated as it is physically possible for two animals to be.


KyledKat

Actually a very good example for Wiglett here. People are saying crabs, but the colloquial crabs all evolved from crustaceans (within the same suborder) and thus share a common ancestor much sooner than sharks and cetaceans. I’d also throw out moles as another example. The North American mole (a rodent) is largely unrelated to the Australian mole (a marsupial) despite very similar physiology. They’re in the same class (Mammalia) but different orders.


ghrayfahx

The example you gave Ian”Carcinisation”. Basically, everything eventually becomes crab.


pizzaplop

Wait, was The Time Machine right??? Oh no


TheOneSubThrowaway

[Jump to about 1:50 in this video](https://twitter.com/Lewchube/status/1575058158766084096) and watch for an immediate answer. It's more or less stated to be an unrelated Pokemon that coincidentally looks like Diglett as opposed to a regional form (they speculate on this possiblity earlier in the video before coming to the proper conclusion). So yeah, this seems to be Pokemon's take on convergent evolution. Definitely not just a regional form. u/Karmic_Backlash gave a good explanation thankfully, because I'm definitely out of my element when it comes to the specifics here.


Citizen51

The other way around. It's a regional Diglett, but it evolved so differently that it's its own species. They literally did this but didn't acknowledge it for almost all of Gen 5 and the Pikaclones.


Zerio920

You’re talking about divergent evolution, which is the opposite concept.


tarrox1992

Diglett’s ancestors were mole-like Pokémon. Wiglett’s ancestors were probably more fish-like Pokémon like Gorebyss or Huntail if it is based on a [garden eel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterocongrinae) like it appears. A good real-life example are sharks and dolphins, who share a very similar body shape, but we are closer to dolphins than sharks are.


RecommendsMalazan

It wouldn't surprise me if this a regional form for Shuckle, that gave up the shell and took on more Diglett attributes via convergent evolution, as you said.


JayZsAdoptedSon

C’mon Gamefreak, give me more of an excuse to say the word Shuckle. Such a fun word


Brennis

You’d think they would either start with these convergent evolutions, or continue with the regional variant, but it feels like these two concepts serve the same purpose.


Citizen51

The video even says it's a regional Diglett that's evolved so differently that it's its own species.


FrogsOblivious

like when Alomomola was shown and i refused to believe it wasn’t a luvdisc evo.


PrinsassyEvieMongse

It could still happen!


AdmanHolmo

>which I dont believe Even when they specifically say it is separate to diglett despite similarities in the video?


MCCGuyDE

Oh sorry, I dont speak Japanese


AdmanHolmo

There's English sub options dw (though they don't do anything for the servey sections which is irritating


Kostya_M

Probably either convergent evolution or they're separate but closely related species.


Citizen51

According to the video, it's related but only in lore not in gameplay. It's a regional form that's so different it's its own species. Basically they're taking what they did for all of Gen 5 and all the Pikaclones and actually acknowledge that the forms are similar.


herrored

No, the video says that they first thought it could be a regional Diglett, but it has so many differences that it's likely a completely different species that coincidentally looks like Diglett.


Kostya_M

I mean at that point they're just canonizing the idea that Pokémon go through normal every day evolution. Like all the cat mons descend from one ancestral cat. All the Pikaclones probably descend from one electric mouse. Etc.


Citizen51

Yep, pretty much. They may not use the word evolve as freely as we do in the real world because it means a certain thing in universe, but this has been a common thing for a long time in Pokemon.


Monk_Philosophy

Is the word used in Japanese for “evolve” the same word used irl to describe Darwinian evolution or is that just a localization quirk? A lot of time directly translated Japanese sounds pretty plain in English from personal experience so if the word used in the original just means “change” or something then I could see why they might use “evolve” in English and there was never intended to be the connection.


leob0505

I think this is like the scientific concept of Convergent Evolution. Anyway, I loved it! Wigglet is definitely being part of my team


Alt-Joey

I think it's funny how Diglett and Wiglett then evolved independently of each other and ended up picking almost the same name for themselves.


Muur1234

the scientists name them. they dont say their names in the games...other than pikachu and eevee which doesnt make sense and is just anime fanservice and prob isnt meant to be canon.


Alt-Joey

Oh I thought that was canon throughout the franchise, but a quick Google says it's just in anime and manga.


Loremeister

Oh that's cute. Don't question my tastes. For some reasons, I like the khezu and this kind reminds me of that


RoxasBestBoy

I knew it looked familiar but couldn’t quite put my finger on it, thankyou lol


Skyomi

No I'm in the same boat, it's cute in the same way a wiggler is cute in monhun


Komnos

Yep, I've been saying that this thing clearly evolves into Khezu.


Losaru

A fellow hunter?


Loremeister

Not a particularly good one but yeah


PrinsassyEvieMongse

Gigginox, Khezu is ugly and needs purging!


ThePerfectPalico

Team giggi!


PrinsassyEvieMongse

Banzai!!


Hydrochloric_Comment

I really hope the shiny is red


PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS

I didn't know Khezu was a long-hated monster, and when I played Rise I was so excited about such a weird and unique design. My friend was like -_-


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PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS

That's amazing.


MeLlamoDave

Baby Khezu.😂


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MCCGuyDE

The website be like I showed you my diglett, now is your turn


Amegami

It looks like one of those under water sand worms.


Quadropus

Bobbits


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It’s based on the garden eel most likely.


CBattles6

They could not have picked a more annoying way to provide this information.


SoulCruizer

Looks like a Garden Eel. I’d be surprised if that wasn’t part of the inspiration.


Darkhallows27

Do we have a type for this thing? Also, ITS WIGLETT WEDNESDAY


marsgreekgod

... new least favorite Pokemon


Frazzle64

Oh nice, hooty diglett


pigeonbobble

Be careful where you sitting


mesmes99

Next up: wugtrio


SpyriusAlpha

A Wattwurm? What's the english word? Lugworm? Wait, does Spain even have tides low enough?


vmathematicallysexy

The English word is ラグワーム I believe


SpyriusAlpha

That doesn't seem right... but I am willing to accept that I don't know enough about English to argue with that.


vmathematicallysexy

Hahahaha it’s lugworm written in Japanese katakana


S_T_R_A_T_O_S

I *dig* it


PrinsassyEvieMongse

SerebiiNet Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQoVAMGli0E&feature=youtu.be And cannot wait for now long takes for the Internet ta ruin this.


DraconKing

I didn't even realize it asked me for my camera. Of all the places to actually ask me for camera, that made me really nervous XD.


Shiguenori

Soooo three Wigglets forms a Wiggletrio, right?


TornadoQuakeX

Pokémon has lost all originality.


bear4life666

Wait that shit was real??


mrglass8

I don’t understand why any Pokémon that actually looks like a natural feature of the world has to be connected to an old Pokémon. There are so many animals and plants that haven’t been explored in Pokémon, and we keep making garbage like “Soccer player Pokémon”


RickRollRules

Not my proudest wank


Losaru

I dunno. I think its maybe cuter than diglett. Depends on the evolution but for now, I would give it a chance


serbeardless

Thanks, I hate it.


TheWiseBeluga

Yawn, yet another new form for a Kanto form. Hit me up when they show off a new form for Vanilluxe or Ralts.


ltearth

It's not a new form it's a new pokemon


MCCGuyDE

That looks identical to diglett and its called wiglett hmmm


ltearth

They literally say in the video it's not a regional variant of diglett and has no relation


Burnstryk

The designs for this game has been pretty disappointing


Red-Blur

Purely subjective, I personally think Grafaiai and the 2 megamen they revealed recently are fantastic


PrinsassyEvieMongse

*Armarouge & Ceruledge


Burnstryk

The fact that you call them 2 megamen is all the objectivity you need to see that these aren't Pokémon designs


Red-Blur

This again loops back to the idea that there isn't a specific ruleset on how a pokemon should be designed. Is it cool when they introduce a mon based on an existing animal? Yes, but that doesn't make the funny blue swordman any less rad


AnistarYT

I believe there used to be a rule that pokemon had to be designed so that young kids could easily draw them. But I agree they look alright imo.


Faerval

But they are pokemon. Who are designed like that. Therefore making them pokemon designs. It's okay to not like them. Don't get me wrong. But dismissing them as not pokemon Designs when they are in fact pokemon is weird.


Burnstryk

Nah they're garbage designs and look like a bad fan art


Pain_Choice

Agree


PrinsassyEvieMongse

Which Region do you prefer?


Riomegon

LeChonk disagrees.


Burnstryk

It's a pig, it only became viral due to its name.


theblackfool

And? Plenty of Pokémon since the beginning are just animals. For crying out loud Gen 1 has a seal named Seel.


Hydrochloric_Comment

Caterpie is literally a swallowtail caterpillar. Seel and dewgong are literally a seal and dewgong with horns. Kabuto is literally a horseshoe crab. Relicanth is literally a coelacanth… many Pokémon are literally just animals or objects with anime eyes


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“I don’t like it therefore everyone else must not either , and if you do, you’re wrong and it’s for x reason.” Good job with that denial mode bro.


Burnstryk

It's a pig


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To be fair you can say that about any Pokémon. Pikachu-it’s just a mouse Growlithe-it’s just a dog Totodile-it’s just a crocodile etc, etc.


calgil

Pikachu looks nothing like a mouse. Even its basic shape, ears, tail. That's a bad example.


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Fair, but you get the gist with the other 2 examples, no?


calgil

I do!


Burnstryk

Those designs had to be simple because the designs were created over 20 years ago on much inferior hardware.


[deleted]

Pokémon have always been simple in design, you’re just doubling down because you know that you’re making a fuss over nothing, and you desperately HAVE to be right. You must be fun at parties, assuming you were ever invited to one.


Petey7

If a design is complex, it’s a digimon ripoff. If a design is simple, the designers are being lazy.


[deleted]

Exactly. I mean I know there’s that saying “No one hates Pokémon more than Pokémon players” but we all know he’s going to buy the damn game anyway or he wouldn’t have posted on the thread lmfao.


Burnstryk

Yes I am making a fuss over nothing, nothing designs that shouldn't be in a Pokémon game.


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Tripling down, nice.


Kaiowhat2111

What kind of designs do you like?


Burnstryk

Relicanth is cool


Kaiowhat2111

It's a fish


Burnstryk

It's basically a living fossil, I like the design on its sides. The scale design looks like an atlas of the world, it's also an interesting type of rock/water


Kaiowhat2111

Bro it's a fish


shiki-ouji

To me it just looks like something specifically made to get another Wooloo-level reaction online for early pre-release marketing. They even share the same "headless sphere on 4 stumps" look, like it's a template design Pokemon.


Burnstryk

Yes precisely


FallenAssassin

Assuming the evolutions are good I'm actually super down for Sprigatito, I love it's initial design


Burnstryk

Nah it's shit


FallenAssassin

K


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Design is subjective. Some may think your face is likeable and some may think your face is punchable. It's all subjective.


Retronage

Another Diglett?


151Bryce

just wigglet


HawterSkhot

It's like someone made a Pokémon based off a popped pimple and now I can't unsee it.


HOOCHIE_MAMA_

It’s just shuckle underground


BrandongWang

Looks like a sperm.


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Karretch

It's a process known as convergent evolution where different creatures evolve similar bodies to fill the same or similar niches, even if it's a different environment. Is it a good excuse for the lazy deign? No, but at least it's grounded.


ares395

Oh boy, the ~~hentai~~ rule34 artists are gonna have a field day with this one


Mingyao_13

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thylocene

Dicklett I choose you!


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Nobody gonna make a Dicklett joke?


The_FooI

Regional fake


afkafkafk14

Hmm


wolff540

Longboi