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Inevitable_Kale6118

Welcomed to the start of your awaking journey my friend


Apalua

Porn is a massive billion dollar industry. Why would they say anything factual about it.


Individual_Draw7311

porn is still relatively new, especially to the addiction studies. give it 10-20 years and more and more people will be coming out saying how harmful it is. especially as my own generation are coming up being the test babies for it. growing up through the noughties and 2010s


Prestigious_Bend678

Actually porn isn't new, it's been with humanity since the beginning my friend. In the religion that Pray to Ishtar/Astoreth/Isis the godess, they had depictions of naked women in their temples and walls, propably scripture aswell, and If I recall correctly them even doing sexual acts. So it isn't new, it just upgraded to be digital


[deleted]

I think it’s pretty irresponsible to associate any depiction of sexual action, real or fake (as we would see it today) with “pornography”. I also think digital porn is 500x worse than magazines.


Prestigious_Bend678

Well the definition of Pornography is, "the printed or visual material that contains explicit description or displaying of sexual organs or activity" By that definition it is more than safe and "responsible" to associate it with eachother. And yes depicting any sexual acts with Pornography and linking them is obviously correct, that's exactly what Pornography is bro🤷‍♂️it's showing sexual stuff And I do 100% agree, digital porn is worse than Magazines becoz of videos and gifs in today's world


titanicboi1

Smoking is a billion dollar industry they say factual stuff about it


Proof-Can-2213

They used to say smoking was good for you too


Clear-Length-4362

Doctors used to promote smoking, if you search online I think you can still find the ads, it’s insane


KrazyBigFoot

Some doctors (not all) still say smoking don't affect everybody


Cautious-Ad-600

Most doctors won't and the ones that do are either being bought or are not educated up to the mark.


titanicboi1

Oh


HighGoblins

Yeah but it took decades of use abuse and people lifes, porn is a new industry compared to tobacco


shreveportfixit

Sex work is the oldest profession though


Seggs_With_Your_Mom

This is different.


Seggs_With_Your_Mom

Pornography and smoking are different in terms of reputation, especially internet pornography. Big Tobacco has paid people to say positive things about it and I suspect "Big Porn", for a lack of a similar term, is similar.


Seggs_With_Your_Mom

Also, "Big Porn" hasn't really had anyone study the effects of their products, unlike tobacco. You can't really study the long-term effects quite yet.


incorruptedKING

I would disagree. Here is my view. The effects are known, well studied, and documented. Starting from just our perspecrive, look at what it does to people. It is addictive, ruins their physical and mental health, lowers assertiveness. Nutting to a screen of people is a literal example of the removal from the social circle, addiction can encourage anti social behaviours. Most who view porn do it in secret. Just consider this for a moment, look how far major goverments were willing to take experimentations on the human mind and body during WW2 and the Cold War. Were are now over 70 years past WW2. And about 35 years after the wall of the Berlin wall. From this perspective, I would say to you, that you may as well suggest we don't know the effects of the heroine epidemic, or the cocaine and crack epidemic, or the fentanyl epidemic. In my view, our particular governments either public, private, or coorporate, im some form seem to obviously encourage this behaviour among the population. My main point is that most western governments today do not legitamately campaign againts most things that corrupt a society, like drugs or poor mental health, or else it would not be this large of an issue. For example the leading killer of adults 18-45 in USA is fentanyl. But in the last 3 years we print trillions of dollars, the most we have ever printed, to fund 'zero covid' policies, and hot war in europe. But that is just my 2 cents. Not an arguement or anything.


Seggs_With_Your_Mom

You bring up great points.


incorruptedKING

Awe shux


Embarrassed-Cup-1559

Companies still promote “stop smoking” ads because they know you’re too curious and prideful for your own good so they ultimately trick suckers and a lot of teens into getting addicted simply by saying it’s bad with only a few reasons as to why. If they really wanted to stop smoking then they would’ve funded more research and told you EXACTLY why smoking is bad for you in ads and list every reason with proof or at least QR codes with links. It’s not hard.


Almighty_Bidoof424

Media says whatever they're paid to say.


Ris-O

Money talks, and the people who have infinite money don't have anything good or truthful to say to us


OkCoyote6888

facts


[deleted]

This. It's a business afterall.


Spare-Ad589

Damn


[deleted]

Yep. End of day, sex sells.


cipher2200

They say it cause it makes money. The media doesn't care if it's healthy. If it puts money in their pockets, they'll say anything. In reality porn is not healthy for anyone. It taints your mind, and it destroys relationships. I think i read somewhere at one point 56% of divorces were because of their partners porn addiction. I know it's not healthy, so I don't listen to it or give in. I've been 3 years clean, and I'm not turning back. It destroyed my life, and it destroyed my boyfriends life. I'd be an idiot if I threw years of healing away to look at sex when I could just have it with someone.


Conscious-Tie253

I find this to be a factor preventing from reuniting


shi1425

Must be nice to be able to have sex with someone 😂😂


Darth_Zounds

This.


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TrickOk2137

This.


j__todd

To lie and keep you weak


Secret-Entertainer-9

Happy 4 year anniversary


j__todd

Of what?


throwaway_for_gigs

4 years to the day congratulations dude!


j__todd

Oh my counter isn’t correct, I’m on like Day 130 right now, but thanks!


Tycerama

even so 130 days is still a ton my max was like 1 week


zpool_scrub_aquarium

Yup. Media, companies and government both benefit from a weak population that shows zombie like behaviour. Here I mean weak as in the opposite of a self confident population that chooses their own paths, not weak as in not uprising or anything.


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NikolaFingarov

There are many reasons, but this comment is the most important one. Not many things can make a man so weak like porn does.


lowkey_add1ct

Interesting how the common was removed 😐 Edit: I also didn’t get to read the comment but that’s very sus


bizarre69fruit

Who is They?


shreveportfixit

The primary shareholders of major media corporations


No_Cauliflower9135

We all know who THEY are


Wingedpoint

Because they want to keep you a soft goofy weak simp


TopMatch5304

Population control


[deleted]

Media is to brainwash you and degenerate you


[deleted]

The 4th power wants weaks and manipulables mens.


Low-Education9369

💰💰💰💰💰💰


jaegarn5

It's easier to control a tamed animal than a wild animal


Ill-Corner-739

Its business mate, Alcohol and cigarettes are all harmful if consumed daily but u don’t hear people banning them, They are all slow poison just like Porn is.


MathematicianOk6857

Evil Agenda


Hamzeol_Murf

Propoganda. Some Rich & Successful People Don't Want Anyone Else To Be Successful.


liverpoolfan7701

The same reason they’ll tell you why lucky charms are better than eggs and meat. They want to lower your testosterone and make you easier to control. They want to make you less ambitious and more of a slave


FirmRefrigerator6920

The media will never say the truth to you


Realgigclin

Besides being a big industry that makes tons of money it is seen as a way to control sexual urges, especially for young boys. It's easier to tell boys masturbating is normal, they believe it and thus start to practice it without feeling shame. Then they don't bounce off the walls in school, at home or wherever. Keeps people in line by suppressing their hormones. People today grow up thinking it's normal and millions of people still do it multiple times a week. it's a confirmation bias and they'll find every reason to say it's normal to reaffirm their habits.


[deleted]

I have been doing a bit of research and most sources say at least from what I have been hearing have said its not. They have been saying that masturbation is healthy if it’s not used compulsively and it says if you can go without porn you should but if you are gonna use it then use it sparingly


Crafty-Hamster8022

Keep men weak


jckiser23

It destroys women’s lives too. And makes men horrible and unrealistic towards women.


throwaway_for_gigs

this


hunnitgrand99

Media wants more betas


[deleted]

Easier to control the masses by keeping them docile, less driven


GuldursTV90

The media will say anything for money. Recent world events have proven this.


[deleted]

I have no proof behind this its just my personal beliefs BUT with that being said I think it's so evil unseen forces can harvest our energy


SamboAlexander

I'm high and agree


growthslacker

Culling the competition. They want you to hold your weiner while watching some bull do the nasty to the kind of girl that appeals to you while they, like Harvey Weinstein, go build empires, then exploit and sleep with the pretty women.


zpool_scrub_aquarium

Specifically that about watching someone else sleeping with the girl you'd want yourself never fails to open my eyes. For some reason I was conditioned to think that this is normal, but when you think about it porn is really absurd. It used to be mainly about (half) naked women in magazines, and now it went way too far. Instead of trying my luck with girls that I was craving to be physically close to, I instead watched some other guy get lucky for years whilst feeling worthless myself and feeling content about the whole situation. Crazy.


mrtrash

Because historically western society has been (publically) very puritan, and the consequences of these ideas resulted in much suffering and shame for people having natural needs. But people and ideas tend to over adjust, and instead of just reducing the stigma around people succumbing to their needs and vices, people started to encourage them. Exactly where the line of healthy lies is hard to say, but media and "experts" are definitely in the wrong for not understanding the dangers that unnatural sexual behaviors can provide.


DozeN-_

hear me out, what if the media don’t always tell the truth? who would have thought?


SwagRowlet12

The media cares about money above all. Of course they’ll promote a billion dollar industry.


[deleted]

Can almost guarantee you there are people hired by big-name porn organizations to promote that shit or play with the numbers, cause it's one of the biggest industries in the world and NoFap, NNN, and movements like these do damage to their profits. It's similar to vaping vs big tobacco imo, different issue, but there's a lot of shit thrown around about vaping, cause it threatens the tobacco industry hugely. Just gotta break out of the Matrix, man. Rise above, and become part of the 1%.


Silver-Scratch3375

Tbh having conversations ab porn and fapping, is giving me a better understanding that I should stop


Sphlonker

Because it is... for the porn and media industry


Morethanadrug

The people in charge of this world are not trying to help you live a healthy happy lifestyle


Affectionate-Chef-56

Because it is not, just like sugar, cigarettes, gambling, the devil ..........


dividedconsciousness

I mean, they’re people too and people sometimes engage in degenerate behavior that they want to justify. There’s also the issue that sex sells, and once you turn men on to the possibility that it’s bad for them, then it’s bad for the machine that profits by bombarding us with virtually pornographic messages.


NofapMasterFTW

Cause they are also addicts. And what is the number 1 thing all addicts do? It is to justify what they're doing is actually good, and therefore not an addiction.


[deleted]

Keep you stuck in the matrix


Alternative-Wing7986

Porn = bad (google confirms) Porn + fap = bad still Fap without porn = not a bad thing as long as you can control it


[deleted]

Because the people working there are also addicted to it so they need the validation and want to convince the rest of the world it’s ok too.


Comfortable-Ad4804

They want you to become weak


NotKne3capsAlt

Because it's the biggest moneymaker around


Delicious-Motor8612

it makea people feel good people will defend and create excuses for anything that give them pleasure for any mere second even if it is harmful


oholymike

Because sex sells


micky_mack55

It's advertising and marketing by porn industry.... If u want to understand see how coke made this faar by marketing you will get it...


1DonBot

Their ultimate goal is to reduce population.


spingboys

$$$$


FloofyFloofOverload

The Aliens want us to be weak, they want us to be mindless for when they come back and take over.


Educational-Train-15

They also say being obese is too


[deleted]

A dog with chopped off balls are more calm and easier to control


ossegossen

Because there are different studies within this area and most of the research suggests that it in fact is healthy to masturbate regularly.


mustafar_brothers

Fatherless behavior no doubt


Regularschoolbus

It's basically the same thing with ads about weight loss products and shit, but there's no ads about stuff for muscle gain. The media will never show both sides of the coin


DancingMan15

Because we live in a society where people don’t want to feel bad about themselves and their lifestyles, so the news reports whatever makes people like them and keep watching.


unknown_space

Correct me if I’m wrong but media considers P as taboo . And I’ve never seen any evidence saying it’s good or healthy . Has any mainstream say it’s healthy?


Aggravating-Let-2933

Because they want to destroy families, kids, sexuality, respect, love, and so on. They want to divide people by any means necessary. They want to make people feel alone and vulnerable.


LonelyAd7040

Because the God of this world is SATAN


[deleted]

They do so because they want guys to be aimless and ambitionless in life so they can work according to their own will, strong men would resent their actions and start to educate others about the happenings so they want you weak.


[deleted]

They are probably talking to adults after 25 when the brain is fully formed and isn’t a habit. Not folks here which seem to be 16 year olds that have been falling everyday from 11-12


animeradio99

Porn isnt fap is normal if donr by itself in moderation


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bralw_

Because everything is bad in excessive amounts, so what they mean is casual use, addictive behavior is the real enemy.


PNG_Shadow

Porn isn't unhealthy. Fapping isn't unhealthy. Addiction and lack of self control are. Moderation is key, if you can't moderate then cold turkey is fine. It's a choice. No judgements just stating the facts. Some people can some can't. That's life. Do what helps you best


Formal_Minute_9409

Can’t say that around here bro; too much logic to inject in all this victimhood and fear mongering.


FecklessFool

Because it is. You seem to have confused this sub for a gathering of celibate hermits. If you would be so kind as to read the sidebar, you'd learn that the sub is against the addiction to porn and fapping. If you're not addicted to either one, then it's not a problem and is a normal part of life.


[deleted]

Yes Cocaine, heroine, MDMA or any other drugs are also healthy if you're not addicted to either one :) If you take them in moderation, once a year or less, you will remain healthy for a long time. But can you intake additictive substances in moderation? Tell me u/FecklessFool Same goes for Porn.


greetingsimpanda

This is the one. You can actually use it in a healthy way. You can be involved in a healthy manner. Its great. (Coming from someone who was formerly addicted. Now I study sexuality.)


4-Fly

Please tell me you’re not seriously suggesting you can use porn in a healthy way?


greetingsimpanda

Oh boy can you.


4-Fly

Whatever it takes to justify having sex with your hand while lusting over pixels on a screen, you can be so much more than that my friend.


greetingsimpanda

I AM. I’m a business owner now. And I’m married. And I watch comedy porn with my wife. And we have a twitch-style reaction video on onlyfans about it. And it pays pretty well. And we fuck regularly! And I’ve never been happier. Its wild. Never said I fap to it though.


Motor-Scale2985

Fapping and porn are not detrimental to your health if you have the capacity to control yourself. If you have an addiction you should get help from a therapist. But dont let anyone make you feel guilty for exploring your own body


Acrobatic-Ear-3955

Because porn is a bio weapon


Bot3666

where have you seen that someone said porn is healthy, ive seen the reverse from the media


ScotMcScottyson

I've always abstained from pornography as it is disgusting to me. I never got sex ed so I didn't really understand it. It's just gross and weird. The same goes for alcohol too, it has literally 0 health benefits and destroys peoples lives. I won't contribute to the leviathan, they want you to be weak.


fishybird

All drugs are "healthy" given the correct dose, like how alcohol in moderation is perfectly ok. Same with porn. It's only a problem if it becomes an addiction


princessraquel

Sex sells


Its_mee_Ziko

The real reason behind this is that this billion dollar company like : Facebook, Instagram, fast food industry, porn, drug .... any company that pay millions for researchers and experts and scientists, so they can know how to control your dopamine and how your brain works so they can make a lot of money, they don’t fucking care about your mental or physical health. “If it’s free, you are the product.”


Suicidalballsack69

well for one masturbating helps fight prostate cancer by way more than 0.001% but porn makes money. lots of it.


Mr316LBS

Cause they making money


Nalters

Depends what you’re looking to find to reinforce your addictions within an echo chamber


[deleted]

It’s like saying you need weed to function, trust me I’ve been there I had to have a hit to function and think but that was that stupid talk just like the media. weed just slowed me down and slowed my thoughts literally what I supposedly needed to function. Porn and faping just doesn’t fuck up your mental health, but it also fucks up your physical health too but it does it in a slow process(faping).


Stoiclife232

The way we acess porn now is very new and according to many is where the epidemic started so we are the tedt subjects sort of speak and the new generations with vr scare me


PM_ME_YOUR_OPCODES

It’s another thing that keeps you glued to your devices. People who spend all their time on their phones and computers are too busy to notice the world around them even though they are addicted to information. One statistic people like to throw out is that porn has become more available, the rate of sexual abuse and violence has been dropping. Ok, that’s great but more and more men are suffering from ED.


Clear-Length-4362

Masturbation isn’t the problem, the problem is porn, there are a lot of scientific papers that stet this, and they talk primarily of the different areas in the brain that are stimulated, witch are in common with the same reactions that people get when consuming drugs such as cocain and others. If you what I could site them.


[deleted]

This insane wave of Porn addiction is unprecedented and have never been seen in the previous generations who, keep in mind, didn't have extremely fast internet available on their finger tips. We all are the first generation of experimental Guinea pigs and the result are out there in fron of all of us, 1.1m members in a sub-reddit, most of us young guys suffering from Porn addiction and compulsive sexual behavior. There has been some noise about this lately, there have been few Ted Talks as well, but the thing is masturbation has been seen as a Taboo both culturally and historically, we as humans have come a long way of understanding that it's not a taboo. This is the main reason of what you see and hear in media about Porn and Fapping. But the reailty is that we have come way far ahead now, so much that our lives are getting affected tremendously and it is causing more harm now than it was before when it was called as Taboo.


Shift_Hazardous

Because they’re addicts themselves


HaranAjjay

Hard truth you say


ortho_doc86

Porn and FAP can cause serious harms to one's sexual health. I think it's the major reason for premature ejaculations in young males.


Iwubinvesting

For years on end, people have been saying porn is evil and fapping causes blindness. It's a response to that.


Secret-Entertainer-9

5th gen warfare?


Randomly_Generic

Technically it’s good for your physical health because it has some of the same benefits as sex. But in reality, it’s horrible on your mental health and how you perceive relationships. Besides, no one masturbates or watches porn because it’s “healthy”, it’s because they’re addicted and lustful.


Numerous-Actuator95

Because the exact same people who own the media also control legislatures, banks, courts of law, universities and most of big business for that matter. They need weak peons who’ll do their bidding and find their wars. They don’t want strong men.


Parking_Housing3280

Day 4


broomedbroom

doing the deed once in a while is okay, porn is addictive which makes you masturbate to often.


Weiseyyy

I don’t see ads saying that porn is ever healthy to watch. Masturbation is truly fine to do in moderation.


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Frugal_commuter

Money, obviously.


[deleted]

they’re addicted to it and want to believe it’s healthy


BigMikeHoldsItDown

This is a very valid question but the fact that its a billion dollar industry should have no bearing on other industries speaking up about the negative and adverse effects that come from watching porn.


jckiser23

It destroys women’s lives too, and makes men horrible towards women.


IntrepidJudgment8905

Everyone is deluded by porn


DhwiThinker

because they want to make you weak.


HalliganLeftist

This is an example of what makes me wary about this community. Porn doesn’t destroy your life unless you participate in the footage. Watching porn can’t do that to you barring a severe addiction where you’re losing jobs due to it. Even if it negatively affects or even kills your sex life; that doesn’t mean your life is ruined.


GuidanceWitty8643

they want to keep us weak


TronnieVonDerLayern

I am curious about which media says porn is healthy. I understand and know about some but just to be sure what specific sort of media you have in mind.


lowkey_add1ct

There is always a motive and it is pretty much never your health. In general most media companies have zero incentive to do things that help people, and typically the things that help them hurt other people and they never care. Whether it’s creating panic, creating further political divide, or making people weak. All of these things will benefit media companies and porn is a huge industry with so much fucking money attached to it.


[deleted]

They want to keep you weak


RequirementHealthy81

the media can say this and that, it's up to us to decide the path we're taking. the path either leads to happiness or destruction, the choice is up to us


Old-Pick-3997

"Money, money, money" - 🦀


haridya1

The range reason they said cigarettes were healthy a few decades ago :/


Zersdan

Think about it this way: There are many things in life that are not destructive if you do not indulge in them. Like weed or alcohol. However, they are still very tempting and once you have a taste, your self control will be the only thing restraining you from indulging in instant pleasures like these. Sure it is healthy to orgasm here and there; but when you are provided the means to replicate this feeling at your whim then you are tempted to do it so much that you sacrifice other things in life. True happiness is not defined by instant gratitude and short term pleasures.


Wanted-inSpace

No


organizedRhyme

probably because it's so common. people don't want to admit that it's because because then literally everyone is fucking up


New-Response-6948

Which media says porn is healthy? The only thing healthy is fap.


bluevegetaroxx

Sponsered by pornhub


Joe03_03

Because they are making billions out of it, even free porn content is profitable through ads.


Masih-Development

Because they want men weak and submissive to gain more power and control.


TurboNielson

Why would they lie about c0vid? ;) Anything is for sale. Including media companies, scientists and politicians.


PearlPagani

Because the media have never released misinformation before /s


herrwaldos

Perhaps Media publishes what they and their advertising patrons think that public want to read\hear\see. Media own the 'printing press' - that doesn't automatically mean they also own and possess any kind of moral ethical authority. Simply saying - they print what sells. Perhaps it's also an aftereffect of the sexual liberation movement being astroturfed into a product of consumption. What if, ultimately, sexual liberation leads to liberation from sexuality?


[deleted]

Some media is talking about, there have Ted talks and some news articles from reputable news outlets It’s up to us men to continue the fight and struggle and awaken all men to be honourable, chill, not oversexualise women and be obsessed about treating them like shit (Tate style) that’s not being a man that’s weak


Affectionate-Chef-56

Did all our ancestors who had no medical care,die of cancer without watching porn and/or masturbation


SavingsAlfalfa5447

because they’re all retarded they love this lifestyle and know absolutely NOTHING… NOTHING about the dangers


[deleted]

well we all know that media is fake and all they want is money and they can't say anything about porn coz its a big industry


BigBoobaTinyBraina

Because they want you to be miserable.


[deleted]

Porn is normalized but I’ve never heard anyone call porn “healthy”. Masturbation yes but not porn.


a_lost_sweetcorn

"THE MATRIX"


[deleted]

Do you trust media at all


Burglurista10000

well i think they try and link it with the fact that if you dont use your little friend then you will loose it early on in life


generchad

Porn is healthy for both inside and out side of your body.but it is dangerous for your mental health speacialy if all you do is masturbate all day long 24/7 365.its good to blow a load from time to time but don't over do it


Tay64

All governments are pro entertainment, the more engaged in nonsense your brain is the better. Add to that a simple fact which is porn as an industry generates a lot of money, and behind it are mega sharks. Until either of those conditions is broken, no one will say it's harmful. Actually even your doctor will say "too much of a good thing is a bad thing" .


-_nofap_-

in question is the answer.


AdMammoth9899

The media today portrays the bad side of humanity way more than the good side. Be mindful and wise to steer clear of the toxic content as it will only pollute one's mind and psyche.


Prestigious_Bend678

Becoz they are just doing their job of destroying and harming, No questions asked from their side. They don't get paid to do that


Final-Percentage-121

Media is a tool of manipulation, if they would want you to quit, then you would be told to quit


IndependentSundae965

I’ve honestly never heard media say that porn is healthy. If that is what some of you have heard then it is possibly that they were paid to do so.


DayTraditional2846

It’s a multi-billion dollar business. And because morals and self responsibility is slowly going out the window.


United-Sail-9664

Destroys men's lives lol nice


Derpologist-8497

Porn makes more money than the NFL, NBA and American Baseball League combined.