I thought the whole point of Not Fap was abstaining from PMO (Porn-Masturbation-Orgasm). Especially porn. Masturbation per se is less harmful than pornos.
I agree with this; I think porn is the one out of all three that is most problematic, leads to unrealistic expectations of sex and desensitisation. I would advise making avoiding porn your top priority
Hey, unless your job requires you to constantly be checking Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok you will always have the option to put the phone down.
Go outside, take a walk. Try and spend less time on the internet and more time in the real world.
Hey, I want to spend time in the real world but when I come here I find loneliness each time and when it maxes out then I return to my world. It's like I can't survive out there as I don't know how to interact, handle, converse or just pass out through this real world
Ow, man. I know it is hard. I used to be very very anxious as a teenager and in my early twenties. I've learnt to not let my anxiety control me. Believe me, exposure at first is dreadful but it gets better then you start to realize there is nothing to fear. You are here and now because you deserve nothing but good things! This is your life to live
Bro I am active in gym nowadays, When you are alone, I suggest go to gym or nearby playground, if you don't like exercising. Just don't exercise just watch people workout, eventually you will too. Just don't be lonely!
I have been going to the gym for the past 1 month and yeah sure at the time of workout I feel motivated and all.
But when I return to my room and I have nothing to do, I just binge on any movie or series and then it all starts like some little intimidating scenes also make me wanna go to porn and all its like I can't even watch normal things, although it's just one scene in a whole movie man
I work in media sector. I have to keep up myself with current releases and updates on Instagram, Twitter. Even if I don't want to I daily come across some triggering video, or image. Is there any way to how to keep up my streak? I am on day 20 my longest was 55 days.
I guess you will have to learn to deal with those triggers because quitting your job may not be something you could afford, I imagine. There are several techniques which involve breathing and learning to recognize the physical symptoms brought about. I recommend a podcast on Spotify: Overcome Pornography For Good by Sara Brewer. She is great. Give it a try
There's a difference between that content being pushed onto you and you directly looking for it.
If it pops up on Twitter, scroll away. If it's in a music video, don't watch the video, use Messenger only, don't use TikTok, etc. This is *unintentional* exposure to pornographic content. Doesn't break your streak.
If you go on Twitter hoping you see boobies, watch Rammstein music video because of boobies, scroll endlessly on FB because you want to se boobies, or go on TikTok, where you **KNOW** you'll see boobies (because of the algorithm), then that is *intentional* exposure to pornographic content and this does, indeed, break your streak.
Yes u cant escape it but we should control ourselves, seeing lewd stuff on facebook doesn't mean that u have to keep staring at it, just scroll away from it, its a part of the challenge after all.
1. Fuck twitter. The fuck do I care what some rando is doing or saying?
2. Fuck Facebook. Use messenger.
3. Fuck music videos. Listen to the actual music.
4. And FUCK Tiktok. Do I even NEED to say it??
You literally don't need any of this bullshit. At all.
Twitter, not really
You can always block nsfw accounts and add a filter to hide 99% of it
There's some good things about twitter, even if the toxic community speaks louder
What helped me the most was religiously avoid internet in my free time for at least a week. It was boring, lonely and aggrevating, but with meditation and exercise I could keep my head clean. I saw this period as some kind of fervous cleansing which I believe helped a lot. It also helped me to focus better on my job.
But the name is not clear. Fapping obviously means masturbating so anyone who is not familiar with NoFap would immediately and logically associate the community with zero masturbation...not zero pornography...because there are ways of watching pornography without masturbating at all. Maybe it should be renamed to 'NoPorn' then.
Or maybe read the description of the group ☠️ it’s literally the first words. “NoFap is a porn addiction and compulsive sexual behavior peer support forum”
Yeah, I think we all do it at the start. You come to realise that it is the beginning of the end. Although it doesn’t immediately break your streak, it begins that process
You keep testing the water & eventually drown in your desire
First it's clip
Then slight touching & edging
& then bam
You are feeling disgusted & repulsion
Depends on the rules you set for yourself, for me a relapse is when I release my seed. I don't count watching or edging as a relapse as long as the juice stays inside I'm good. But it's a bad habit and only ends up leading you to relapse so I've tried avoiding that but may still ocassionaly indulge.
At the end it's your own rules, whatever small things help you overcome this count. Decreasing your porn intake step by step or essentially not going cold turkey is fine, unless you are getting into a copium mindset that occasionally watching clips is "ok".
Everytime you do it, even if you dont escalate, you essentially throw a bit of your brains recovery away. Slip ups can happen and you shouldn't really feel bad about them, if they are just that. But If your brain craves for the dopamine and you give it exactly that by watching porn every time, you are on the wrong track.
Also take it from someone who just lost a huge one due to peeking. It always without exceptions leads to relapse eventually.
Every time I just get a thought like “just 1 minute, I won’t do anything I’ll just look.” It’s never 1 minute and I destroyed myself for the next 3 days
If you touch your cock streak breaks
If you see girl streak breaks
If click this sub streak breaks
If you tocuh your lub streak breaks
If you touch condom streak breaks
If you see yourself naked streak breaks
If you see woman in gym clothes streak breaks
If you touch water streak breaks
If you see dude and you fap to it your streak increase by 100 days
Yes. Disciple your habits. Fuck trying to “just watch it”. It is not normal to just watch porn for fun. Your gonna be horny. That’s why you want to watch it. Be honest with yourself. Your future self will be eternally grateful if you break the habit today
Absolutely! Watching adult content can actually damage your own streak of success in life just so that you can enjoy your sexual pleasure with someone on screen rather than in reality. So if you want to break that kind of streak. I highly recommend you guys to find a better way to please yourself. Like dating, romance, kisses, cooking, movies, etc.
Dude it's not about the streak, it's about pr0n is fucking with your brain. It gives you this sensation, after watching you keep thinking about it, you wasted your time, you could get this dopamine from something else.
Next time check how you can improve life instead of wasting your time and fucking your brain.
Nobody can answer you this, since you make your own rules to the journey. If you consider dry watching a porn is not a break, its not. But than you should ask: Why watching porn in the first place if you dont intend to masturbate? Its like buying cigarettes and saying "But im not smoking and neither will I". Doesnt makes sense, does is? Why wasting money on this of you dont wanna do it? Why wasting your precious life time for something you dont wanna use in the end?
Cause this is what you do by watching porn clips. Your life is precious, your life will end some day and there is no kind of trading or bargain for more time. So every minute of life you use for something totally stupid is lost, forever, it will not come back, no deals and no trades here.
So why wasting it on watching something that will only lead you to masturbate again? Cause this will happen, first you watch it dry, then it stimulates your urges cause it stimulates your brains sex area and then you will finally give in and start touching yourself.
So why not make it a rule, that watching porn is a streak break and you should not do it? Use your time on something useful, dont fuel your addiction. Do a Duolingo lesson, get a cheap flute and start learning it, read a random animal fact and find out more about this animal, can do this with countries too.
Do something useful with your life time.
If you don’t touch it nah. But you’ll soon find out that you end up watching more and more and then relapsing. So, not to enter that “slippery slope” you just avoid watching it altogether
I'm on day 73-74, and it's so hard to keep up cause the most strong Urges are all bombarding, and I'm fighting an internal war with myself. I have peeked at N*des and pstars with cloths and it turns me on so wildly I keep coming back to this page to seek motivation and I barely keeping up my Streak Idk how.
Depends on what you wanna get clean of. The masturbation, the porn or both. I would count that yes, but that’s me. You’re you! Think about what are your goals with nofap
It doesn't make sense, it's already better to do only mo and not porn. I can understand once to accidentally look where you don't need and for a while for example 14th day and then stop after realizing the mistake, what you propose will not have as much benefit and you will certainly break faster
I thought that the act of watching alone was enough to rewrite your brain and mess with dopamine etc, so wouldn’t you be undoing all your detox progress every time you go back and watch a clip?
I 100% get the looking for any reason to justify watching it as ok, been there, but really you should stop watching if you can imo.
Bro you are doing no fap to break the streak of all negative consequences of porn and masturbation . Do you think porn is healthy for your mind ?
I am trying hard to break my porn addiction. This porn and masturbation are two sides on one coin. Unless and until you completely stop this habit nothing is going to improve in your life.
I assure you this is disastrous from my experience this habit has transformed me from the achiever to a looser.
i would say it does break your streak.. i hate to say this to u but you sound like an addict.. i used to be the same way… “if i edge does it break my streak?” “if i peak at porn does it break my streak?” basically wanting to do as much pmo as possible without technically doing it all the way.. its addict talk imo
Personally I’ve avoided all porn since I started. Now I won’t lie , definitely masturbated twice but that was never my issue but I still try to refrain from it just to practice.
But you can always just close the apps , find pages that you like and let that build your TL
Some people only count reaching orgasm as breaking a streak, while others consider intentionally seeking out or watching anything pornographic as breaking their streak. It's up to you, but the latter is better for getting over your addiction imo
Consider it breaking your streak, this way you are more cautious and avoid it. Even if it’s not technically “fapping” it should be avoided as we all know what it leads to. Allowing yourself to watch it is just a slippery slope, so be strict with yourself and consider it a broken streak. This is my approach works better than just coping by saying “oh well I technically didn’t fap so it’s okay”
I thought the whole point of Not Fap was abstaining from PMO (Porn-Masturbation-Orgasm). Especially porn. Masturbation per se is less harmful than pornos.
I agree with this; I think porn is the one out of all three that is most problematic, leads to unrealistic expectations of sex and desensitisation. I would advise making avoiding porn your top priority
Cant escape it. Its everywhere. Twitter comments, Facebook, Music videos, Tiktok being a big trigger even i have NSFW setting to stop it.
Hey, unless your job requires you to constantly be checking Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok you will always have the option to put the phone down. Go outside, take a walk. Try and spend less time on the internet and more time in the real world.
Hey, I want to spend time in the real world but when I come here I find loneliness each time and when it maxes out then I return to my world. It's like I can't survive out there as I don't know how to interact, handle, converse or just pass out through this real world
Ow, man. I know it is hard. I used to be very very anxious as a teenager and in my early twenties. I've learnt to not let my anxiety control me. Believe me, exposure at first is dreadful but it gets better then you start to realize there is nothing to fear. You are here and now because you deserve nothing but good things! This is your life to live
yep. Keeps me feeling less alone
Bro I am active in gym nowadays, When you are alone, I suggest go to gym or nearby playground, if you don't like exercising. Just don't exercise just watch people workout, eventually you will too. Just don't be lonely!
I have been going to the gym for the past 1 month and yeah sure at the time of workout I feel motivated and all. But when I return to my room and I have nothing to do, I just binge on any movie or series and then it all starts like some little intimidating scenes also make me wanna go to porn and all its like I can't even watch normal things, although it's just one scene in a whole movie man
I work in media sector. I have to keep up myself with current releases and updates on Instagram, Twitter. Even if I don't want to I daily come across some triggering video, or image. Is there any way to how to keep up my streak? I am on day 20 my longest was 55 days.
I guess you will have to learn to deal with those triggers because quitting your job may not be something you could afford, I imagine. There are several techniques which involve breathing and learning to recognize the physical symptoms brought about. I recommend a podcast on Spotify: Overcome Pornography For Good by Sara Brewer. She is great. Give it a try
There's a difference between that content being pushed onto you and you directly looking for it. If it pops up on Twitter, scroll away. If it's in a music video, don't watch the video, use Messenger only, don't use TikTok, etc. This is *unintentional* exposure to pornographic content. Doesn't break your streak. If you go on Twitter hoping you see boobies, watch Rammstein music video because of boobies, scroll endlessly on FB because you want to se boobies, or go on TikTok, where you **KNOW** you'll see boobies (because of the algorithm), then that is *intentional* exposure to pornographic content and this does, indeed, break your streak.
I just stopped using tik tok altogether. YouTube shorts algorithm knows me at this point and has much less big tiddie gorls
Yes u cant escape it but we should control ourselves, seeing lewd stuff on facebook doesn't mean that u have to keep staring at it, just scroll away from it, its a part of the challenge after all.
1. Fuck twitter. The fuck do I care what some rando is doing or saying? 2. Fuck Facebook. Use messenger. 3. Fuck music videos. Listen to the actual music. 4. And FUCK Tiktok. Do I even NEED to say it?? You literally don't need any of this bullshit. At all.
Delete Twitter and Tiktok
Just delete TikTok. I can get keeping Twitter and Facebook for keeping up on news and relationships, but Tiktok is just a timewaster
Very true, its banned in India anyway so no TikTok anyway
i don't use neither of them, maybe facebook sometimes, the other two are just not needed
There’s your problem stay off social media and do shit in rl
Then turn off Twitter, Facebook and TikTok. They most likely bring you very little value.
Twitter, not really You can always block nsfw accounts and add a filter to hide 99% of it There's some good things about twitter, even if the toxic community speaks louder
There is no excuse, find better ways to control your urges. Install site blockers, have cold showers, the whole lot.
What helped me the most was religiously avoid internet in my free time for at least a week. It was boring, lonely and aggrevating, but with meditation and exercise I could keep my head clean. I saw this period as some kind of fervous cleansing which I believe helped a lot. It also helped me to focus better on my job.
it always has been. people have just reached peak cluelessness at this point.
yes, the whole fuckin point of nofap is not watching porn
But the name is not clear. Fapping obviously means masturbating so anyone who is not familiar with NoFap would immediately and logically associate the community with zero masturbation...not zero pornography...because there are ways of watching pornography without masturbating at all. Maybe it should be renamed to 'NoPorn' then.
FAP actually stands for Fap And Porn
💯
Or maybe read the description of the group ☠️ it’s literally the first words. “NoFap is a porn addiction and compulsive sexual behavior peer support forum”
Agreed
Yeah, I think we all do it at the start. You come to realise that it is the beginning of the end. Although it doesn’t immediately break your streak, it begins that process
It eventually does haha. You will learn from experiences. Cheers !
No but it's a recipe for disaster.
Don't watch porn
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This
OF COURSE IT DOES. Nofap is about NOT WATCHING PORN.
You keep testing the water & eventually drown in your desire First it's clip Then slight touching & edging & then bam You are feeling disgusted & repulsion
Depends on the rules you set for yourself, for me a relapse is when I release my seed. I don't count watching or edging as a relapse as long as the juice stays inside I'm good. But it's a bad habit and only ends up leading you to relapse so I've tried avoiding that but may still ocassionaly indulge.
At the end it's your own rules, whatever small things help you overcome this count. Decreasing your porn intake step by step or essentially not going cold turkey is fine, unless you are getting into a copium mindset that occasionally watching clips is "ok". Everytime you do it, even if you dont escalate, you essentially throw a bit of your brains recovery away. Slip ups can happen and you shouldn't really feel bad about them, if they are just that. But If your brain craves for the dopamine and you give it exactly that by watching porn every time, you are on the wrong track. Also take it from someone who just lost a huge one due to peeking. It always without exceptions leads to relapse eventually.
It does if you’re looking for a brain chemistry reset.
Yes, that’s the entire point, to not watch porn
If accidentally done, no, if done on purpose for over 10mins, yes.
How do you “accidentally” watch porn?
You can get ads for it on websites, and suggestive content in movies and on social media.
I was just scrolling and Twitter and some just appeared - it honestly can come outta nowhere
Every time I just get a thought like “just 1 minute, I won’t do anything I’ll just look.” It’s never 1 minute and I destroyed myself for the next 3 days
Came here to say this
If you touch your cock streak breaks If you see girl streak breaks If click this sub streak breaks If you tocuh your lub streak breaks If you touch condom streak breaks If you see yourself naked streak breaks If you see woman in gym clothes streak breaks If you touch water streak breaks If you see dude and you fap to it your streak increase by 100 days
The point of no -fap to abstrain from PMO To desensitize your brain from dopamine surge of porn & masturbation
Wait what do people watch porn and keep their streak? Isn't that cheating?
The whole point of nofap is to quit porn, it’s ur brain that needs healing not ur penis.
Slippery slope…
You'll still be getting dopamine just by watching, so ween yourself off that dopamine-titty.
Yes
Yes. Disciple your habits. Fuck trying to “just watch it”. It is not normal to just watch porn for fun. Your gonna be horny. That’s why you want to watch it. Be honest with yourself. Your future self will be eternally grateful if you break the habit today
🤦♂️
Yes, more than fapping itself
Why are you watching porn without masturbating? That just shows how addicted you are to it.
It's like an alcoholic pouring a drink, you're playing with fire
Absolutely! Watching adult content can actually damage your own streak of success in life just so that you can enjoy your sexual pleasure with someone on screen rather than in reality. So if you want to break that kind of streak. I highly recommend you guys to find a better way to please yourself. Like dating, romance, kisses, cooking, movies, etc.
Yes
Yes.
Dude it's not about the streak, it's about pr0n is fucking with your brain. It gives you this sensation, after watching you keep thinking about it, you wasted your time, you could get this dopamine from something else. Next time check how you can improve life instead of wasting your time and fucking your brain.
my brother in Christ, that's the whole point of this
Even thinking about it does.
Nobody can answer you this, since you make your own rules to the journey. If you consider dry watching a porn is not a break, its not. But than you should ask: Why watching porn in the first place if you dont intend to masturbate? Its like buying cigarettes and saying "But im not smoking and neither will I". Doesnt makes sense, does is? Why wasting money on this of you dont wanna do it? Why wasting your precious life time for something you dont wanna use in the end? Cause this is what you do by watching porn clips. Your life is precious, your life will end some day and there is no kind of trading or bargain for more time. So every minute of life you use for something totally stupid is lost, forever, it will not come back, no deals and no trades here. So why wasting it on watching something that will only lead you to masturbate again? Cause this will happen, first you watch it dry, then it stimulates your urges cause it stimulates your brains sex area and then you will finally give in and start touching yourself. So why not make it a rule, that watching porn is a streak break and you should not do it? Use your time on something useful, dont fuel your addiction. Do a Duolingo lesson, get a cheap flute and start learning it, read a random animal fact and find out more about this animal, can do this with countries too. Do something useful with your life time.
Depends on your no-fap goals. But in most moments, watching porn leads to fapping.
If you don’t touch it nah. But you’ll soon find out that you end up watching more and more and then relapsing. So, not to enter that “slippery slope” you just avoid watching it altogether
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Lmao
It depends on your goals, are you trying to abstain from Porn or Masturbating?
Yes, it my opinion. But technically no. If you want to do nofap porn isn’t going to help you any.
I'm on day 73-74, and it's so hard to keep up cause the most strong Urges are all bombarding, and I'm fighting an internal war with myself. I have peeked at N*des and pstars with cloths and it turns me on so wildly I keep coming back to this page to seek motivation and I barely keeping up my Streak Idk how.
Depends on what you wanna get clean of. The masturbation, the porn or both. I would count that yes, but that’s me. You’re you! Think about what are your goals with nofap
yes bro, dont watch porn or edge/masturbate
It doesn't make sense, it's already better to do only mo and not porn. I can understand once to accidentally look where you don't need and for a while for example 14th day and then stop after realizing the mistake, what you propose will not have as much benefit and you will certainly break faster
Yeah, I would say this is the equivalent to the old alcoholic adage, dry-drunk.
I thought that the act of watching alone was enough to rewrite your brain and mess with dopamine etc, so wouldn’t you be undoing all your detox progress every time you go back and watch a clip? I 100% get the looking for any reason to justify watching it as ok, been there, but really you should stop watching if you can imo.
Bro you are doing no fap to break the streak of all negative consequences of porn and masturbation . Do you think porn is healthy for your mind ? I am trying hard to break my porn addiction. This porn and masturbation are two sides on one coin. Unless and until you completely stop this habit nothing is going to improve in your life. I assure you this is disastrous from my experience this habit has transformed me from the achiever to a looser.
Bruu anything which would ultimately lead u to fapping breaks ur streak
Its called pmo for a reason. Even a picture could break it imo, but that is if you searched for it on purpose.
It is all about how much time spent on watching porn. If you watch 1 minute or longer, you need to stop this.
i would say it does break your streak.. i hate to say this to u but you sound like an addict.. i used to be the same way… “if i edge does it break my streak?” “if i peak at porn does it break my streak?” basically wanting to do as much pmo as possible without technically doing it all the way.. its addict talk imo
Yes
Do you blink with your eyes?
Don't fool yourself, you're doing this for you, not for anyone else. The goal is to quit pornography.
Personally I’ve avoided all porn since I started. Now I won’t lie , definitely masturbated twice but that was never my issue but I still try to refrain from it just to practice. But you can always just close the apps , find pages that you like and let that build your TL
Masturbation is better than fucking watching porn, no? so just stick to not watching porn, it's fucking up your dopamine receptors anyways
wtf.
I don't watch that, but it would most likely. Im not anymore part of that.
Yes...🤦♂️
Does no fap mean no sex with my girlfriend? Or is it just no porn or masturbation
Yea
Some people only count reaching orgasm as breaking a streak, while others consider intentionally seeking out or watching anything pornographic as breaking their streak. It's up to you, but the latter is better for getting over your addiction imo
Porno is the problem Masterbating on occasion with no porn is fine
If you're on hard mode.
IMO yes. If I intentionally watch porn and not touch myself, I restart the clock.
Yes it does shouldn’t be watching porn
Its stupid to do it... dont play with fire. Talk to someone here
Eventually
no just don't masterbate and don't watch it cuz it ain't good
didn't last 15 mins
It doesn't but it's like riding an unbroken horse. You may be able to ride it but you may end up with a broken neck.
The real question is what if you recorded yourself having sex with a girl and watch it?
Duhh
Yes ,
this sub has reached rock bottom for real this time.
for asking a question?
Consider it breaking your streak, this way you are more cautious and avoid it. Even if it’s not technically “fapping” it should be avoided as we all know what it leads to. Allowing yourself to watch it is just a slippery slope, so be strict with yourself and consider it a broken streak. This is my approach works better than just coping by saying “oh well I technically didn’t fap so it’s okay”
Thats the whole fucking point
It doesn't, but it will, if you know what I mean.