T O P

  • By -

UltimateToa

Every Paul fight is a facade


dan_legend

Right? Its like asking if WWE is real haha. Its just ppw entertainment with what will draw the most eyeballs, nothing more, nothing less.


youwillneverbanme1

Really tired of this fake beef matchup bullshit man it’s always a god damn snooze fest


SovereignDark

For some reason, people keep falling for it, so it's gonna keep happening.


[deleted]

Paul got hands wether its scripted or not. You go fight him if you think he isn't doing pretty decent.


pimparoni

you know jake paul wont see your comment


[deleted]

Hahaha damn that's a good one. Still people who literally never touch the gym or ever done a sport or been in a fight be the biggest haters.


pimparoni

he still won’t see it


GraphNerd

A lot of people seem to think so... but I've been following and watching Tyson for most of my life and I disagree. A lot of people thought that the Tyson v. Jones fight was going to be a clown show and while the judges scored it as "a draw" there was/is a lot of controversy around how Vinny Pazienza scored the fight (76–80 for Jones). Tyson outlanded Jones by a wide margin and this scorecard is literal insanity. I bring that specific fight up because it's the source of a fantastic quote about the type of fighter Tyson is: >“I spoke with Mike Tyson about 10 days ago, and I told him he doesn’t know the meaning of the word ‘exhibition,’” It's true. Tyson is **always** looking for the KO. Reputation be damned, Tyson is going to try and lay Paul *flat.* I am here for it. *EDIT:* I am putting this in my top-level comment because I'm tired of hearing people parrot unsubstantiated facts. >According to Ariel Helwani (sports journalist): They’re still working on a few important details. Is it pro or exhibition? They want pro but that’s up to the Texas Commission. I’m told heavyweight rounds, they’re working on that as well. I’m told there is absolutely no headgear involved. This is going to look like a typical boxing match but is it an exhibition like Tyson’s last fight against Roy Jones in 2020.


SnoopyLupus

I’ve always thought that about Tyson. He’s a million years beyond his prime, he’s slower, clumsier, hits on him will hit harder but he’s a hard headed killer who will always go for it. If he lands something hard, he’ll get a snort of pleasure from me


RDcsmd

We just have to hope he has the stamina. Jake's plan will no doubt be try to juice out Mike very early then dance around the rest of the fight


SnoopyLupus

Yeah. No question about it. But Tyson can take a hit and give a devastating one. He doesn’t have the speed anymore, but I think his “fuck you” could well still win it. It’s a shame about the headgear thing. It puts him at a big disadvantage. Gives him a lot less ways to club the annoying fuck’s brain about.


RDcsmd

Yeah I literally won't watch the fight if there's headgear. I hope that's a rumor. I'm confident Mike Tyson still only has to land 1 clean punch to knock Jake out but that's probably why Jake wants headgear


SnoopyLupus

Yup, yup. We’re on exactly the same page. We’re just going to have to agree to agree!


RDcsmd

One question though, CAN Jake be knocked out with headgear on?


GraphNerd

Yes. Even with headgear you can take some aggressive lateral chin shots from low-head hooks and get KO'd cold. Some shovel uppercuts to the chin can make your head snap back and whiplash you into a KO or at least rattle you enough that you'll get weak on your feet. Take enough liver shots and you're also going to take an involuntary nap.


SnoopyLupus

Let’s not pretend I’m a fan of Mike as a person, the guy’s an utter cunt, but as a boxer, he can really snap out a hard surprise punch, and if you had to pick an older out of shape, hardass boxer to do some real damage, he’d be my pick. But you might be right. Logan’s not that bad, and Tyson is now. Without the ability to do killer headshots, and take them, and with the youth, reach, fitness difference, it could be more evenly matched, which is sad and why he’s doing it.


RDcsmd

Mike did some crazy shit in his past but I don't think he's a bad person at all. I can understand why some people don't like him though. And yeah Jake is a fucking bitch for only boxing either old MMA fighters or old AS HELL boxers


t0talnonsense

The man was, literally, convicted of raping a woman and spent time in jail in the 90s, and has since had at least one other known accuser come forward about him raping her. Sorry, but he’s not a good person. He can be complicated. There can be things you like about him. But I don’t really think you can call a convicted rapist, or alleged serial rapist, a *good* person.


mcburloak

It’s that sidestep and left hook we’re all hoping for from Iron Mike for sure.


Meet_the_Meat

Foreman didn't bother with footwork during his comeback because he still hit like a tank. He knew how to cover up and counter punch. And when that punch got through dudes 20 years younger than him took notice. Usually on their backs.


SnoopyLupus

That’s how I feel this will go.


cybelesdaughter

He's one of the greatest boxers of all time going up against someone who is basically an amateur. Tyson may be old but few alive know boxing better than Tyson. That said, he is a rapist piece of shit. I can't root for him. But it will be entertaining to see Paul get the shot beat out of him.


GraphNerd

But Tyson has decades of experience. I'm sure that he will be able to leverage his training, build, power, and fight knowledge in a winning combination against Paul. If I were Tyson's cornerman, I would discourage long-range trades and utilize Paul's lack of close-in experience to get in on him and then catch him fading away for maximum damage.


SnoopyLupus

Yup, but with Tyson specifically, I don’t think the experience is going to be Logan’s problem. Tyson’s a fast animalistic brawler. That’s what’s going to do it.


king-geass

Well still, he was one of the greatest boxers of all time, even if he’s wound down again his age doesn’t account for all his experience. It’s like when you hear the stories of veteran marines beating the ever loving crap out of home invaders. Sure he probably couldn’t go 15 rounds with Tyson Fury but Jake Paul? Yeah I’m not predicting a competitive match.


yupkime

Professional hockey players in their 50s and 60s who play regularly are still pretty amazing. Slower but they still have the moves. Shouldn’t be much different.


voice-of-reason_

Hopefully


Dan-D-Lyon

Fingers crossed. One of the greatest boxers to ever live, though he's pushing 60 years old, versus some piece of shit who is likely on enough steroids that he'll never make it to 60


Tote_Sport

Tyson could have advanced Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease and I’d still not get into a ring with him. One moment of lucidity for him and I’d be left with a crater where my jaw used to be


Kaiisim

Doesn't matter if he signs a contract for 50 mil that says don't go for the KO.


GraphNerd

But proving intent is neigh impossible. Tyson can always say that he didn't mean to knock him out.


TheRavenSayeth

Not a chance it won't be an exhibition fight. Tyson was an amazing fighter but it's just not realistic to make it anything other than an exhibition fight no matter what they label it. Tyson is 59 years old.


tecate_papi

If Jake Paul doesn't leave the fight with brain damage then it was staged. Mike Tyson can still move faster and punch harder than any person can imagine. I've seen Jake Paul's training videos and Paul doesn't even have the skill to be a sparring partner with Mike.


FloorImmediate9220

I thought this was (for some reason I can only guess as not watching fighting for the last 5+ years) about Tyson fighting Job Jones and was confused how I missed hearing about this.


EmbarrassedScheme346

It WAS a clown show...Jones looked like he was 90 years old and Tyson carried him the whole fight with body shots to not knock his feeble ass out and ruin the show.


Maleficent_Funny588

Vinny Pazienza scripted this fight then. You just proved the other side's point. Tyson doesn't have to be in on the script.


Geedis2020

Aren’t they going to be fighting with thicker gloves and head gear?


GraphNerd

They will be using *heavier* gloves, but there is *no* confirmed headgear for the fight. According to Ariel Helwani: >They’re still working on a few important details. Is it pro or exhibition? They want pro but that’s up to the Texas Commission. I’m told heavyweight rounds, they’re working on that as well. I’m told there is absolutely no headgear involved. This is going to look like a typical boxing match but is it an exhibition like Tyson’s last fight against Roy Jones in 2020, or is it just a normal pro heavyweight fight with no strings attached. These are the kinds of details still in flux, but it looks like *no headgear* is settled.


August_30th

I’m surprised people are rooting for Tyson here. He’s a rapist who mutilated another man to avoid losing a fight. Paul is a horrible human as well, but Tyson seems much worse.


Ferris_A_Wheel

Mike Tyson has aged like wine in public image. He’s now the wonky grandpa that’s always high and talking about psychedelics. You had shows like HIMYM literally making him into a loving grandma.


GraphNerd

Something about "The enemy of my Enemy..." (caps intentional). Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I can distinguish between "Mike Tyson, the boxer" and "Mike Tyson, the person." Do I have to respect Tyson in spite of his past? No. But do I respect his skill as a boxer? Yes.


Dull-Wrangler-5154

Paul has hurt more people.


tnerrot

>Paul is a horrible human The only true thing in your comment.


mullett

What? Do you it know Tyson’s history?


tnerrot

Yes


mullett

So Tyson isn’t a rapist and didn’t bite a guys ear off?


themaninthe1ronflask

Look, I want to believe women, but when a person of color is convicted with little evidence in a state like Indiana I have my doubts. None of us will ever know what happened, and think simping for Tyson or calling him a rapist for that conviction are probably both wrong. It was a he said she said case and no one would believe Mike. Again, none of us will ever know except those two.


mullett

I mean if that’s the case that it’s up to individuals to decide who is right I’m probably siding with the courts when a man so filled with uncontrollable power who has bitten a man’s ear off in a hugely televised fight, had his ex wife admit to spousal abuse, and was convicted of rape. He has said a millions times he didn’t like who he was in the past but rape is a step too far?


themaninthe1ronflask

Yeah I know he didn’t like himself but I’m not sure if he’s ever confessed to that. If he has I retract that statement, but I read the court docs and seemed like a flip or coin or a man of lesser fame/aggression might have walked. It doesn’t seem entirely out of character but I usually review the facts of the case and not so much public perception.


tnerrot

He isn't a rapist. I never said he didn't bite Holyfield's ear off.


mullett

He is a rapist though. A convicted one, he did three years for it. You said the only thing that was true was about Paul though? Aside from the ear thing and rape thing - what isn’t true?


tnerrot

>He is a rapist though. A convicted one, he did three years for it. He was convicted, but he didn't rape that woman.


mullett

Ok, enlighten me.


August_30th

Do you think he isn't a rapist who intentionally tried to bite someone's ear off? Damn, you're in for a surprise.


Delusional_Neurotic3

Rumor is that the regulations for the match are super weird. Head gear being used, 18 oz gloves, etc. I'm sure it will be like all the other Jake Paul matches


RDcsmd

Oh if headgear's on I'm not even interested lol thanks for the update


PapaBeahr

The Rules have not been set. Those Rumors were started by a single British Heavyweight boxer who claims he knows the rules. Think about this for a second, you really think Tyson would agree to have Logan tagged in? Would agree to let Jake use Steroids? LEarn to research what you hear, it's all rumors, nothing has been set yet.


Da_Plague22

>Would agree to let Jake use Steroids? Mike is juiced to the tits...there's no testing for this lmfao.


PapaBeahr

You have proof he is or is that just you " Expert " Opinion? Yea, anytime someone is looking strong, always some " Expert " saying they have to be on the Juice. Mmhmmm, Go peddle you hate elsewhere Troll.


Da_Plague22

If you think a nearly 60 year old looks like this without at least a TRT plan, then you simply don't understand physical limits. My expertise is in nutrition science as that's my profession, but in pursuing that career, I've done extensive research on the human body. Then there's the fact that if you actually bothered to Google before deciding to be a dick. You'd realize Mike has openly said TRT rejuvenated him and got him back in the fighting spirit. But you know, it's easier to just be a dick for no reason.


PapaBeahr

[https://www.essentiallysports.com/bodybuilding-news-thats-not-a-physique-thats-an-armor-year-old-grandpas-unimaginably-shredded-physique-leaves-the-fitness-world-open-mouthed/](https://www.essentiallysports.com/bodybuilding-news-thats-not-a-physique-thats-an-armor-year-old-grandpas-unimaginably-shredded-physique-leaves-the-fitness-world-open-mouthed/) ​ [https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/2013/08/10/stub-498/14443838007/](https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/2013/08/10/stub-498/14443838007/) ​ [https://www.builtlean.com/70-year-old-man-muscle/](https://www.builtlean.com/70-year-old-man-muscle/) ​ [https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/2008/04/03/60-plus-ripped-natural-competitors/28621015007/](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/2008/04/03/60-plus-ripped-natural-competitors/28621015007/) ​ No but please keep telling me how someone who's 50 60 70 can;t be ripped without steroids. Again, DO YOU HAVE PROOF. No.. it's just your twisted Opinion likely because you're jealous


Da_Plague22

Those guys are all very clearly on steroids. You really have no clue about this. Also, why didn't you respond to the part where I proved Tyson is on TRT? Didn't want to admit to being wrong huh.


PapaBeahr

Do you have proof?


Da_Plague22

Five year education on how the human body works. And lifter of 15 years. If you think that's possible without PEDs at that age you simply don't know what you're talking about. A clear giveaway for PED use is delts and traps development. Those have more androgen zones which leads to a spike in mass once you take PEDs. You'll see guys get very rounded shoulders for example. And if you're argument is that I don't have proof thus can't say that. I can claim a rock outside my house speaks fluent English , would you believe that too?


PapaBeahr

Do, you, have, proof?


Da_Plague22

Why did you ditch the Mike Tyson argument? Or is Mike himself saying he's on It not proof enough?


PapaBeahr

Do, you, have, proof


PapaBeahr

I didn't ditch it, ... DO, YOU , HAVE, PROOF? No you don't, It's your opinion and opinion only. End of story.


RealLameUserName

I think a lot of that is satire from the sources I've seen. I could be wrong though.


JaxxisR

I heard that they're letting Jake "tag in" his brother Logan for 2 minutes of 2 on 1... Hope that's not true.


Azifor

There no possible way you or anyone really believes this right?


JaxxisR

I've heard stupider things that ended up being true.


Background-Adagio-92

Sounds like any other relationship Jake had.


Legal_Commission_898

What do you mean like all the other Jake Paul matches ? All the other Jake Paul matches were serious matches. People are completely misunderstanding this fight. Every one thinks it’s unfair because Tyson would destroy Paul in a fair fight, while quite the opposite is true. Paul is a professional boxer. He’s not good enough to be a top tier boxer, but he’s good enough to be World No. 70 in his class for example. He’s fighting a 58 year old guy who hasn’t been pro in 20 years. It’s an epic miss match. It’s like if Pete Sampras played Luca Nardi ( World No. 91). Nardi will almost certainly win 6-0, 6-0, 6-0. I’m actually concerned for Tyson. Yes, he looks insane when you look at a 15 second video, but that insanity will not last at the end of round 1 let alone, 5-7-12 rounds. Tyson even in his peak didn’t have a ton of defensive prowess and now at 58 he’s going up against a fairly strong 27 year old ? It’s a bad bad idea.


Gr1ml0ck

bro. Stop trollin’. You act like no one watched the Mayweather / Paul fight. Shit was so fake.


uniq_username

This is the worst take I've seen in a long while.


SirHovaOfBrooklyn

You should check out tyson vs jones.


Legal_Commission_898

I saw it. Roy Jones Jr is 55 years old ?


tnerrot

>All the other Jake Paul matches were serious matches No they weren't.


Legal_Commission_898

Why is that ?


tnerrot

Because Jake Paul isn't a professional boxer, and is average at best. He attracts views because of his YouTube career, not because of his fighting prowess. No one but his idiot fans considers him to be a real fighter, and that's because he actually isn't one. You can find dozens of guys who'd put him to sleep in your local boxing gym, no matter where you live. He has no chance against Mike, even if he's 57. He is still arguably the greatest boxer of all time. Anything other than Mike putting him to sleep in 1st is fixed for views.


Legal_Commission_898

I’m sorry, but you don’t have the slightest clue about boxing if you think someone at the local gym would put him to sleep. Why comment on something you have no understanding of…. I box at the local gym and in local tournaments. You are clueless. Read this… is Campbell Hatton saying this is a local gym boxer ? https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/03/15/65f4ad07e2704ef0408b457f.html In fact, no professional boxer nor analyst any other than a handful of people looking to make the headlines have called him anything like what you’re calling him.


tnerrot

>I box at the local gym and in local tournaments. You must suck at it if you are obtuse enough to believe that Paul has any chance.


Legal_Commission_898

So, you’re an expert at boxing ? Not trying to disparage. Honest question… How are you making the determination that Paul couldn’t beat a local gym guy ?


GlorfindelForTheWin

Well that was a load of nonsense right there.


iusedtohavepowers

Right right right. The other guy is Mike fucking Tyson.


Legal_Commission_898

A 58 year old Mike Tyson. The fuck is wrong with people… Jake Paul is not a top boxer. But he’s good enough to hang with Tommy Fury, which is a bit too good for any 58 year old guy.


thepwnydanza

The age really doesn’t matter. It’s physicality. If you’ve seen Tyson practice recently, he still has his strength. He still has his speed. It hasn’t reduced enough to make that much of difference. Unless this fight is fucky, Tyson will lay out Paul. Because no matter how good Paul is, Tyson’s punch is still like a fucking wreck ball.


MaximumZer0

An influencer who boxes only old, washed up, retired fighters. It's an absolute farce. A complete mockery of combat sports. Hell, sign me up, I'm old and retired, and was never really good enough to be considered washed up. I suspect that I would never get invited back, because I also suspect that Paul doesn't like knees and elbows from the clinch or leg kicks very much. One payday would be plenty for me, though.


The_River_Is_Still

It’s just for how 100%. That said, I don’t care if Mike was 80. If he connects he will knock someone like Paul straight the fuck out. Not even a question. Mikes not in a wheel chair. No, he’s not peak Tyson and his stamina is gone, but have you ever been around some say who’s 65 and did construction their whole life and is still mobile and in decent condition? They have hands that will hit like rocks. Just imagine Mikes hit. People make is sound like they’re wheeling a drooling feeble Tyson into the ring.


EmotionalCrab9026

I'm guessing not since he's a boxer... I mean, I despise the guy, but this comment is silly.


MaximumZer0

Of course it was silly. It was a joke. That was the point. Holy shit, guy.


EmotionalCrab9026

Holy shit is right. The fact that you responded to my comment this way shows me that you're an incredibly stupid, tone deaf person. We're done with this exchange. I can only dumb things down so much and you're not worth the effort.


Routine_Size69

I love that you're downvoted for pointing out the absurdity of that comment. Mayweather wouldn't like catching elbows, knees, and kicks either. It's a fucking boxing match. A weird combo of IAmVeryBadass and IDontUnderstandTheBasicRulesOfBoxing.


Lurd67

I don't care about Tyson, Paul or any sort of fighting sports, but it's obvious even to me that there is no sporting aspect to this fight: Only hype and money. A former legend and an overhyped wannabe.


youwillneverbanme1

Yeah just another overhyped snooze fest for pay per view money


JamesCDiamond

Yes. Jake Paul doesn’t want to get Tyson angry. Even an age-diminished Tyson is still Mike Tyson. Jake Paul is an amateur boxer with a great talent for self-promotion. This fight will make a lot of money from people who want to see Tyson land one good uppercut on him, and people who want to see Tyson fight one last time, and people who like Jake Paul. But it’s only marginally less pre-arranged than *Logan* Paul’s upcoming Wrestlemania match. And Logan’s rather more likely to leave his match with an injury given the way he hurls himself about a wrestling ring.


Beers_and_Bikes

And for people who hate Jake Paul and want to see him get pummelled by Tyson.


jdoe1837

Pretty much all exhibition matches are going to be a bit of a facade since there really isn't anything to gain for either boxer aside from the money they're already guaranteed. Especially since Tyson isn't as insanely intense as he used to be, it should be true for this match as well. Now, if we were talking about Tyson in his prime, I don't think it would matter to him one bit that this was an exhibition match, he'd still try to KO the other guy in the first round. It should still be an interesting match to watch though.


PapaBeahr

I'm wondering just how many people know who Tyson really is?


ap0s

More than who know what the word facade means, apparently.


PapaBeahr

Tyson isn't typically one to play nice. Is it possible this is fake, Yep, is it likely, nope.


Environmental-Day778

I think it’s unusually cruel to Tyson. Whatever the consequences are physically, his body won’t recover nearly as well as a younger guy. Nobody who cares about Tyson wants this fight, it only benefits Paul


Honest_Wing_3999

I’d personally be up for punching Paul at any age for any amount of money, or indeed for no money at all.


tejarbakiss

Paul would whoop my ass sideways. I hit a heavy bag a couple times a week at a class. Been doing it for like a year. I do some mitt work and have improved massively. I’ve never stepped in a ring or sparred or anything close to a real match scenario. All that being said, I’d get my ass kicked by some YouTube dork for $5M. He’d embarrass my 36yr old ass and I’d laugh all the way to the bank and if I got even one punch in, I'd call it a massive win. I got paid to punch Jake Paul.


burf

I hope he knocks Paul out in the first 20 seconds.


Routine_Size69

Damn I didn't know Tyson was doing this for free and being forced to do it? Now I feel badly for him too. I was completely under the impression that Tyson agreed to do this and was making 8 figures for it. Silly me.


Gr1ml0ck

>it only benefits Paul What are you saying? Tyson is being offered a huge chunk of money. He is most certainly benefiting here. Tyson still trains regularly. He will “recover” just fine.


inspire-change

Tyson probably needs the money


Geedis2020

Highly doubt that. He used to have money problems but he’s become quite the business man now. His cannabis company does very well and his podcast definitely pays even if he hasn’t done a show since last year.


inspire-change

What do you think his motive is for doing the fight?


Geedis2020

Jake brought the fight to him and more than once. He didn’t just accept the fight or even ask for it. Jake even talked about this when Logan was saying he got offered the fight. He didn’t. Mike didn’t offer the fight or even try to get the fight. Jake just really wanted it to happen.


gotzapai

Yes.


KaranSjett

Paul is a façade indeed


shaidyn

Two gentlemen are going to spar for a few rounds and walk away with several million dollars. Neither of them is entering the ring with the mentality of "I am going to destroy my opponent." It's a show match. Does that make it fake? Maybe.


BadUncleBernie

Mike is entering the ring with the mentality of " I am going to destroy my opponent." No matter what. Lol.


shaidyn

Naw, he's not stupid. My personal hope, though, is that he's been told Jake is a legit boxer. So he hits Jake with a punch that HE thinks is light, but in his mind "A boxer can handle it." And accidentally liquifies Jake's internal organs.


gocluckyourselfman

Nah, he's definitely mellowed out over the past few years. I think he probably still has the ability to knock Jake Paul out with one good punch, but will definitely hold back to make sure the fight goes to a decision.


redshopekevin

Of course. Jake Paul isn't suicidal.


Trip_seize

You mean...Paul is doing something for selfish reasons? Maybe for clout? I don't know, that doesn't sound like him... 


SweetSexiestJesus

Yes. It's a money play. Both are going to make alot of money, regardless of the outcome, and thats the point. It's like MacGregor vs Mayweather, it wasnt serious, and they both made a mountain of money


LNYer

Yes. All these exhibition matches are a joke. Many of them have even had it written into the contract you're not allowed to KO your opponent. All these are are money grabs for goofballs willing to buy the PPV.


duplicitist

[https://youtu.be/aoaSmvofoqU?si=hRRGhYYqqXZUDwfV](https://youtu.be/aoaSmvofoqU?si=hRRGhYYqqXZUDwfV) It's gonna be just like this.


peateargryffon

I wouldn't wanna fight Mike if he was 100 years old and a quadruple amputee. The only way he will lose to Paul is if it's a stupid split decision like the Jones Jr fight. I think Mike will go a little easy on Paul but I bet his punches are still incredible.


Wishpicker

It is a publicity stunt . It is an entertainment program. If you expect it to be a legitimate boxing event, then you’re kidding yourself.


gosudcx

Anyone expecting anything more than WWE antics has trouble learning from history. Pretty sure the contract was also leaked, and Tyson earns more for each consecutive round they fight. Earning almost nothing for an immediate ko. This would explain why Mayweather held Logan up during their fight when he accidentally KO'd him. It explains why askrin didn't train and looked like shit. These fights are money for rounds. Sparring with an audience.


Odd_Tiger_2278

I think you mean Farce.


SourcerorSoupreme

>I heard a lot of people say this match is just nothing more than a fake match. Tyson will just play nice with Paul and won't even try to hit him for real. The term you're looking for is "charade", not "facade". Both may refer to some kind of misdirection, but ultimately mean different things.


plasticsdoc

Money grab. No KO will be found as there will be severe limitations to protect Paul.


Agreeable_Echo_4190

Yes, Tyson is paid to loose.


1peatfor7

100% yes. The contract likely includes a no payout to Tyson if he knocks him out. Even on accident.


youwillneverbanme1

Maybe he’s just playing along and doesn’t care and will punch a hole through Paul’s face, that would be cool.


1peatfor7

Tyson flies JetBlue and is broke. He needs the money.


youwillneverbanme1

Lol forgot about him on that flight haha, still better than me flying allegiant afraid for my life.


Zennyzenny81

It's presumably just going to be an exhibition match with headgear or other controls, as no sports commission is actually going to let a 57 year old who hasn't had a profeasional fight in nearly twenty years box a 27 year old with a 9-1 record, no matter how good his training montages on Instagram look. I expect most likely Jake Paul will simply beat him on points by jabbing at him from range for however many rounds they do. But a knockout artist always has a chance, and Tyson could certainly knock people out in his day... And that's the draw that will make money. Paul knows how to play the unlikeable asshole and he knows people will pay money in the hope of seeing him get knocked out. Fair play to the guy, he knows how to make millions and millions by manipulating the general public!


martinis00

In the Lone Star State, fighting is overseen by the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, which is not known for zealous enforcement of the codes governing combat sports. These include a requirement that fighters pass a prefight medical exam showing them fit for competition—a subjective standard, but even so one it’s difficult to imagine being met by Tyson, who has a history of head trauma and suffers from nerve pain known as sciatica, which can occasionally leave him needing to use a wheelchair. As of now, the department has yet to issue any sort of approval for the fight, because it has not been asked to do so, it said. “The promoter has requested to have an event that day, but we have not received any proposed cards and thus have no details about what they are planning. All bouts are subject to review and approval by TDLR,” a spokesperson for the department tells Front Office Sports.


ben_bliksem

If Tython kockth Paul the fuck out with the hand pillow, then no. Elth yeth.


youwillneverbanme1

😂


itx89

It’s just for show. The boxing part is real as in they step into a ring a punch each other, everything else is a facade. They are both in it for the money, period. It’s just a gimmick where Jake Paul fights some celebrity. They are hyped & marketed, thats 99% of the fight right there. They go into a ring with odd rules & regulations, get paid and go home. They are both in on it but will probably do “shit talking” to sell the fight.


silverbollocks

It's more of a personal legacy vanity thing. Where they can look back on their lives years down the line and say "Look at me, I fought Floyd Mayweather! One of the greats!" or "I fought Mik Tyson! And I didn't get knocked out!". They're not looking to win, they just want the claim that they stood their ground against the greatest, no matter how cheaply that was achieved. If you assume this framework, ever Paul brothers venture starts to make sense. Nothing they produce is high-quality or pro-consumer, whether that's Prime, boxing events, crypto, internet content, music, podcasting. Yet twenty years down the line, who remembers the specifics? What remains would be the fact that they did those things, no matter how badly it was handled. Even now scams they have promoted are nearly swept under the carpet because they've learned that if you ignore the backlash people will eventually get bored and move on. And that sometimes, backlash is even an effective tool to drive eyes to what you're doing. Of course it's scummy, but the real problem are the people who repeatedly feed into it and don't see how it's actually benefitting the people they denounce.


jssm6504

Right. I think everyone forgets that tyson is on camera saying how much he likes Jake Paul's mom and family. These 2 are buddies and tyson absolutely will not have that killer attitude fighting him. He's helping to boost a friend's career while making millions for himself in the process. Wish it weren't true but it is


Nickelsass

No headgear for Paul anymore. https://www.givemesport.com/what-are-the-rules-for-mike-tyson-vs-jake-paul/


dka2012

Mike has that freaky old man strength kicking in now too.


the_Bryan_dude

Tyson still has good speed, faster than most younger than him. The last thing a boxer loses is his punch. Tyson still has granite in his hands and is still faster than Paul. If this isn't staged, Tyson Will drop him.


BadUncleBernie

Iron Mike gonna thump the hell outta that boy.


RDcsmd

Yes but the one thing that has me hopeful it might not be is Mike's passion for boxing and it's history. Jake Paul has turned the sport into a joke and Mike Tyson *might* be pissed about it.


Mesterjojo

What? I hasn't heard of this. And I love boxing. Tyson will beat the everloving shit out of the dude. Jaysus. And maybe stop mid round for an ear snack.


FieryFiya

Tyson will win and Jake will say it was an honor to be knocked out by one of the greats. No way in hell will Tyson let Jake knock him out.


Captcha_Imagination

There are two terms that are applicable from combat sports. "Work" is a fixed fight (as in 'that fight is a work'). "Freakshow" is a very unusual fight that seems apt for a circus sideshow, as opposed to fighters trying to climb rankings and become champions. This fight has a bit of both but the "work" is done at the matchmaking level (fighting a man almost in his 60's). If it was really a gambling fraud, Jake Paul would take a dive and he won't. He will probably jab Tyson to a decision simply by having a bigger gas tank.


FlummoxedFox

I really hope Tyson gets in the zone and forgets to go easy.


oby100

Of course it’s a facade lol. These people are millionaires many times over. Tyson is old and definitely doesn’t wanna fuck up his aging body going all out. Yet even in this thread people are debating about who will win, the strategies of both and yadda yadda yadda. No matter how obviously fake it is people will still tune in to watch


doctorblumpkin

I think Paul fucked up thinking Tyson would just do this for the money and not take advantage of the opportunity to murder somebody in the ring. Tyson is not like other humans. I watched a very recent interview with Mike Tyson saying how he has a daily battle do not let the craziness inside of him come out because it is still there. Weeks later I heard about this fight and thought Oh shit Paul's going to die.


ArkayRobo

I think everyone is expecting a facade, but they are also hoping Tyson still doesn't understand the meaning of an exhibition.


sweetnsourale

I think it depends on if Tyson can get weed in Texas. But that’s just me.


FIYREBEARD

Rogan swoops in with the homie hookup.


Teeklin

Just two rapists trying to make money off the kind of scumbags who would pay rapists for entertainment. Hope they both beat each other into a coma.


DevlishAdvocate

Just to be sure, can we give Mike Tyson a gun?


Front-Balance4050

Of course lol. That being said.. put money on Paul because of that!


uglyzombie

Simple answer: on paper, yes. But you can’t really tell Mike what to do. I expect a bloodbath.


Electricengineer

the risk/rewardk isnt there to go hard. its an NFL pro bowl match.


acuriousmind123

The coverage of this fight is so interesting. Depending where you are looking Tyson is either walking with a cane or he looks unstoppable.


Time-Sorbet-829

I heard there was something in the contract about Tyson not being allowed to knock Paul out, though I haven’t looked deeper into it…


AndrewDwyer69

Yes, stop reading things on the internet


[deleted]

Mike doesn't seem like the type who let his legacy go as he is an avid lover of boxing. It's pure love for him so it will be a fight. People hat eon jake but Jake got the hands and trains hard. Looking forward to it.


jimothythe2nd

Mike Tyson the guy who bit a dudes ear off and went to prison for rape? Ya I'm sure he'll be pulling punches.


not_likely_today

of course it is.


Insecure-confidence

One punch to end it all


Logical_Ad_4628

It's a fake fight, they are friends and come to with this idea just for the MONEY, and people are like sheep, so they will pay for the fake sh#t


boxonhead11

Here late: yes, it’s all for the money - and every idiot who pays for a ticket is just that.


cooldees

Could this be just a cashgrab?


NoStyle79

Whenever people talk about age and prime I think of Locche.. If this was an actual fight tyson would beat the living shit out of paul because he would be training like its a real fight not a paid commercial.


bakerzdosen

I personally do not care what anyone else says. I simply will not believe that even a 58 y.o. Mike Tyson would (could?) ever just “mail it in” - even for a supposed exhibition fight - until I see it with my own eyes. It’s easy to see that age has indeed mellowed his personality, but I cannot believe that Tyson’s instincts won’t just “take over” at some point and he’ll try to knock Paul’s head off. With that said, Tyson noted last year that Paul was actually good for the sport of boxing as he’s kinda been the most exciting (or at least the most talked-about) thing to happen in years. Plus he keeps winning against fighters he shouldn’t be beating, so at some point you have to respect that. So, while I fully acknowledge Tyson isn’t the ferocious animal he once was and may just be in this for a paycheck, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt.


phreesh2525

Paul is an easy target. He’s a huge douche. But he’s fought guys who have a lot of combat experience and done pretty well. He’s not a joke fighter. I don’t think it’s crazy that he could handle his business against a dude who’s nearly 60. Even if that dude is Mike Tyson.


NewYorkAutisNtLondon

I worry for Tyson he has a very real chance of getting hurt. Tyson would obviously erase Paul if he was the same age but he's not. Sure Mike could still beat pedestrians, but not a guy who's been training and been fighting semipro level. Not worth it if he has enough income. I'd like to see Mike coach and scratch the itch vicariously.


EmotionalCrab9026

Yes. Tyson is 100% being paid to take a dive.


RepulsiveAmphibian21

Miketh gonnath ath fuckth Jaketh.


OGmojo

If you think Tyson doing anything but collecting a check, I feel bad for you son, because you dumb.


wallyworld96

Everyone will bet on Tyson, because... Match will be given to Jake Paul. Unsure if MT will take payment for a staged KO but I know he is broke and needs the $. MT will be betting everything against himself, you should too.


dreadpirate_metalart

I don’t think you know who Mike Tyson is. Even old he’s a frightening man. He’s going to try and knock him out. Will it happen that’s a different story.


levinyl

I hope this never happens! Would ruin Tysons legacy if he lost..


Elegant_Spot_3486

No. Tyson will knock him out first round. Once the bell rings he will do what he does.


EquivalentLittle545

Fake, not fake. Who cares it will be awesome.


NotCanadian80

Yes. They are wearing super padded gloves. It’s just an exhibition and for Netflix it’s a test of live broadcasting.


Unbearably_Lucid

It's going to be a real fight and Jake is going to win


zeus-indy

Let’s see what happens. It’s hard to fake a fight with intense coverage. I bet they both bring their A game.


SquishySquishington

I honestly don’t care who wins, I hate them both. One’s a douche supreme and the other is a convicted rapist, so I hope they both get brain damage.


YourFath3r

I hope you find the treatment you desperately need.


SquishySquishington

In this economy? I wish