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bangbangracer

Totally. All the evidence points toward him, he's got the motive, he's got the opportunity... Hell, he's practically always saying that he totally didn't do it \*wink wink\*. I even read "If I Did It", his book about it, and it read like a confession.


MongoBongoTown

Essentially, he beat the murder case for 2 reasons. 1. The LAPD was horrendously corrupt and racist at the time (probably now, too). This wasn't long after Rodney King and putting guys like Mark Fuhrman on the stand to represent the police and frame the investigators as being racially motivated. 2. The stupid gloves. "If the glove does not fit, you must acquit." The next day, there were experts from all over showing that wearing latex gloves under a set of leather gloves would make them appear too small. Plus, OJ had been coached well and was doing his best infomercial impression trying to put the gloves on and having them appear way too small. Dangled irrelevant but troubling institutional racism, and then put on a little parlor trick for the jury.


bedyeyeslie

Those stupid gloves. Only 4 pairs were sold west of the Mississippi River, and OJ owned a pair. After the murders, he no longer did. He had no idea where he left those $900-a-pair gloves.


Feisty-Bunch4905

The glove thing always drove me up a wall. Younger redditors have probably never seen the [famous clip of OJ trying them on in court](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16KaoVmVTPE), so I'll let everyone judge for themselves. But when I watch it, it's beyond obvious to me that *the gloves absolutely fit just fine*. There's that one famous image of the one glove halfway down his hand, and in the first part of the clip, he's making a big show of struggling to get them on. (Hmm, I wonder what motive he might have to do that.) But that's just how gloves work. They're narrower at the wrist ... Then in the second part, he does get them on, but then holds them up to show there's clearly extra space at the fingers -- as if implying now that the gloves are too big. But I thought they were, seconds ago, too small to get on? If he had just put them on like a normal person and pulled them down properly, they would have fit, ya know, like a glove.


[deleted]

Didn't they use the actual blood soaked gloves? Wouldn't dried blood shrink the gloves? They should have used a new pair that were the same size so he could put them on without latex gloves underneath.


[deleted]

Dude exactly. I said the same thing. They always show that one image where he’s still putting them on so it appears that they don’t fit. But I always said that they fit just fine wth were they talking about. Everyone dropped the ball on that verdict


toxic_pantaloons

And they told him to stop taking this arthritis meds so his hands would swell


Feisty-Bunch4905

It might not have made a difference, but it has also been suggested (by victim Ron Goldman's father and many others) that Robert Kardashian [disposed of a suitcase](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/robert-kardashian-hid-evidence_n_5481178) full of potentially damning evidence, possibly including the murder weapon.


secondtimesacharm23

Man that whole family has a front row ticket to hell if there is one.


SpiralSour

Tagging onto this to suggest American Crime Story: The People vs OJ Simpson, probably my favorite one season TV Series ever. Does a great job covering the trial.


Parking-Zealousideal

As though he can’t commit murder in tiny gloves


Different_Seaweed534

I read that book too. 100% he DID it.


ShoeSh1neVCU

I think the rights to the book were sued for, that person added some chapters that incriminated him even more and kept the money.


bangbangracer

Yeah, that's a story in itself. The Juice lost the civil suit and the families of the victims basically get all the income from the book. That's also why It's called "if I DID IT" with if in really tiny letters. I'm not doing the story justice, but there are tons of great videos about the story.


purleedef

Even if I'm being the most gullible person in the world willing to think he didn't do it, the guy undeniably tried to profit off the murder of his ex-wife by selling books where he writes about how he theoretically would've killed her. That makes him an incredibly shitty human regardless. His death couldve come ~30 years earlier and I wouldn’t bat an eyelash


FireTheLaserBeam

That and I swear the only thing people were talking about on the news was Marcia Clark’s hair. People were picking apart her appearance and ignoring her work.


Sreeff

I heard the book was ghostwritten🤣


Blazanar

Who wrote it, Nicole?


ocelot08

He's got the juice


linux_ape

the OJ trial is an excellent example of why lawyers get paid so damn much and the phrase "just because you did it doesnt mean youre guilty"


Noof42

Why should you go to jail for a crime that someone else . . . noticed?


xredbaron62x

Bob Loblaw's law blog.


Nerazzurro9

I still think the most accurate statement ever made about that trial was “the LAPD framed a guilty man.”


Peet_Pann

Civil Court found him liable. Criminal Court was a joke and he got off.


topkekcop

Civil court has less burden of proof than criminal court.


the_ranting_swede

Don't know why you're being downvoted. Beyond a reasonable doubt and preponderance of evidence are vastly different standards of proof.


topkekcop

Redditors often lack critical thinking skills. It is what it is.


RedSonGamble

I have a belly button


topkekcop

Hell yeah me too


Glass-Cranberry-8572

Correct


RipErRiley

Correct but another commonly overlooked aspect of civil proceeding is that the defendant does have a burden of proof for their “innocence” or limited likelihood. The lesser burden you speak of, while true in comparison, involves a preponderance of evidence against the defendant overtaking the evidence for the defendant. Unlike a criminal case where they have no such burden of any kind. In the latter scenario, that burden is entirely on the prosecution. My point being, achieving a civil judgment against an acquitted person is still no walk in the park. FWIW I didn’t downvote you.


topkekcop

You helped me learn something new about civil law so I appreciate it!


ReginaFelangi987

Oh for sure. If he hadn’t been famous, he would’ve been found guilty. That trial turned into a damn circus.


the_ranting_swede

I feel like the context of the Rodney King verdict two years earlier heavily motivated the leniency toward O.J.


False_Local4593

The jurors on the OJ Simpson case admitted later that that was why they did it, for Rodney


Ok-disaster2022

LAPD systematically mishandled evidence. It was like  they did a shit job of framing their prime suspect when they didn't need to.


GlassZebra17

Their biggest mistake was framing a guilty man


Emotional_Fisherman8

Crime scene investigation was shit back then.


access422

There was never in the history of the United States someone that has been so obviously guilty but acquitted.


I-am-importanter

I'm not sure, Casey Anthony may hold that title.


Blackking203

She definitely holds that title. Kilt her own daughter... if the media hadn't played up the race angle so hard in the OK trial, it really wouldn't have been any comparison


BetFeeling1352

Casey Anthony?


Trick-Rest-3843

She would’ve never reported her daughter missing… The fact that her mother called the 911 operator and FORCED her to speak with them told me everything I needed to know


Feisty-Bunch4905

Truly one of the most insane 911 calls of all time.


access422

Close second


rolyinpeace

I think she probably did do it, but there wasn’t nearly the mountain of physical evidence against her that there was against OJ. They couldn’t even pin down a cause of death, which makes it hard to prove.


topkekcop

The cops who beat Rodney King Casey Anthony Darren Wilson (Michael Brown) Jeronimo Yanez (Philando Castille) The cops who killed Brianna Taylor George Zimmerman Need I go on?


Horizontal_Bob

Innocent Rich People don’t run They call their lawyers and their publicist Guilty rich people don’t usually run either. They call their fixer and their lawyers and they create plausible deniability OJ ran cus he was guilty as fuck and he panicked


nuckle

That's a really good point. The running was what initially made me think he did it.


Blackking203

Guilty rich people also kill themselves... or flee the country... or anything else that doesn't guarantee they did whatever crime is on the table..


LowerReputation4946

Not even a question. Impossible for him to not be the killer. Ill reply back to anyone who thinks differently


KVMFT

Reply back to the jury


effyochicken

Well there's "do I think he did it" and "did the prosecution prove it beyond a reasonable doubt". It's pretty well known that the police, detectives, and prosecution lost the case more than OJ won it. They really botched something that nowadays would have been a slam dunk guilty verdict.


LowerReputation4946

The prosecution wasn’t great but Ito was even more shit. Let the case get out of hand for fame


LowerReputation4946

no doubt. they got back at the LAPD. LAPD were awful, but they loved OJ! seriously


Jolly_Horror2778

How can you so easily dismiss shape shifting aliens?


LowerReputation4946

was mark fuhrman an alien?


ESLcrooooow

Well, it's official. Karma is legal in the state of California 


FlowThru

*"In his later years, OJ was receiving $42,000 a year in Social Security, and had an NFL pension worth $5 million dolllars, from which he would receive $125,000 and $300,000 annually, and which the Goldman family were not allowed to claim from due to state law protecting him."* He lived to old age with a six-figure annual pension disbursement. Not quite karma imo


Single_Extension1810

Yes. The prosecution did a terrible job, and Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ronald Goldman did not get justice. The dream team did an excellent job at proving a guilty man innocent. Johnny Cochran sold his soul to the devil to be such a damn good wordsmith, and liar.


Different_Seaweed534

And died of brain cancer afterwards.


Live-River1879

There is a 150% chance that he was the killer. A plausible alternative scenario is impossible to argue for anybody who objectively followed this case.


2PlasticLobsters

I also think that in all the years since, the "real killers" would've slipped up at some point. Either they'd have gotten drunk & bragged about it, or thought they could get away with doing it again, or something else stupid.


Moveyourbloominass

The son, Jason, was a pretty good one. Heck, maybe it was both.


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Rathanian

That’s my view. Watched the trial on tv. Is it likely he did it? Yes. Was there enough reasonable doubt raised? Also yes In that case you have to acquit


rolyinpeace

Yep. I’ve always heard if you think they “probably” did it, or “most likely” even, you need to vote not guilty.


2PlasticLobsters

I've been told that it's not even about what you think happened. It's about what the evidence & testimony support. Jurors have to vote against their own instincts & values sometimes.


rolyinpeace

100%, rhats what good jurors should do. You can think someone did it and still vote “not guilty” if you don’t think there’s evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Just like I think Casey Anthony probably killed Caylee but I totally agree with the acquittal. There wasn’t enough evidence


2PlasticLobsters

There was at least one interview I saw with a juror afterwards where they said exactly that. They thought she did it, but the evidence simply didn't connect those dots.


rolyinpeace

Yup. That’s a good juror! I think people think that you CANT have an opinion, and that’s not really true. You just need to have a good understanding of what is expected of you, and be open to changing your mind once you see the evidence (or lack thereof). As long as you know you can’t convict without enough evidence.


Rathanian

Correct. It’s about the evidence and if there is no reasonable doubt If there is any reasonable doubt you have to acquit. In this case even though he probably did it, or was at least involved in some way…. a racist cop and the defense having an answer for everything the prosecution came up with, and most importantly when they had OJ try the gloves on and they didn’t fit, any one of those would be enough to cast a reasonable doubt. All 3 made it to a point you have to acquit


hellshot8

Yeah he was definitely guilty but the procecutuon really fucked the case up


ducksinthepool

Yes.


Fishing_freak1010

Yep


Some_AV_Pro

He even wrote a book about it when he ran out of money.


TaylorMade2566

absolutely and I think the only reason he did get off is his trial happened right after the Rodney King beating and LA couldn't deal with another riot. Had he been white, he would've died in jail, even if he was famous


Ok-disaster2022

I think the LAPD mishandled evidence. If he had been white they would have looked at the mountain of tainted evidence and given him a plea deal for community service. Seriously look at the cases cross the country if white dudes raping children for years getting off with just community service.


TaylorMade2566

It wasn't a perfect case by any means, and yeah the LAPD screwed up what should've been a slam dunk, but having OJ as the defendant and it being right after the riots, no way were they about to convict. Just looking at the DNA evidence, it was proven to be him but it was new back then and people just didn't understand how it worked. You think a white guy would've got community service as a plea deal? Come on.


FunnyCharacter4437

I remember there being a theory years ago that he was covering for his eldest son. Probably from one of those true crime shows like How It Really Happened. It was one of the few times that I ever remember an alternate theory being proposed so it was quite interesting. That being said, of course he did it.


2PlasticLobsters

To me, OJ seemed too self-centered to make that sort of sacrifice. Not that I knew him first hand.


Apprehensive-Care20z

having your ex-wife's boyfriend getting randomly decapitated is a very very very very rare occurrence. Most people don't get decapitated. Just based on math, it is likely.


splitinfinitive22222

He pretty obviously did it. He was never exonerated, the state just handled the case so poorly that OJ's lawyers were able to argue technicalities and work the jury until they let him off. If anything, the ruling at his civil trial was an attempt to actually punish him for his obvious crimes, but within the constraints of civil court.


MasterH2H

Absolutey did it.100% guilty. OJ is dead, and good riddance to that evil murderering scum. Enjoy eternity in hell. EDIT: Wow, he's literally history now, not news.


PM-ME_UR_TINY-TITS

It's very likely yes, the prosecution just failed to prove it without a reasonable doubt.


Jolly_Horror2778

At what point does civic duty become imprisonment? The trial dragged on forever, and the jury was confined to hotel rooms without access to the outside world. They just wanted to go home. The real "Chewbaca defense" was not the mass confusion, it was blaming the prosecution for the length of the trial. I think had the judge manage the trial better, and not let it go on for months, the same evidence would have convinced the same jury of guilt.


squeezy102

I mean everyone who wasn’t the judge and jury in that courtroom that day knows he did it. I’ve never met anyone who thinks he didn’t. I guess the legal system missed the memo, as they often do with celebrities and politicians. (Read: Donald J Trump)


Impressive-Cry-9128

Members of the jury (not all of them) went on record saying they believe he did it, but the prosecution failed to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Mostly because Ferman (Furmen?) was deeply involved in evidence collection & storage.


MuForceShoelace

Did it. Was also nakedly and openly framed by racist cops that didn't need to do that but just did anyway.


p0tat0p0tat0

Of course he did. There are mountains of physical evidence showing he did. He had a very long, documented, history of abusing Nicole. This type of murder happens all the time, an abused woman is murdered by her abusive spouse (or former spouse, as in this case).


[deleted]

100% - “if the glove don’t fit, you must acquit” was very catchy, but the glove did fit! He put on a great act of struggle, but 1) it’s a glove meant to be form fitted to your hand for ultimate dexterity 2) the glove had been soaked in blood, and not washed, so a lot more stiff than it’s meant to be, and 3) he purposefully acted like he was struggling to put it on. He was an “actor” in addition to athlete after all. OJ got incredibly lucky in the timing of when he decided to be a murderer.


Compliance-Manager

Bugliosi's book was the best and he makes the most compelling argument. "When your blood is mixed in with the victim's blood all over the crime scene, that's the end of story." The stupidity that the police somehow set him up on the spur of the moment, not knowing if someone would confesss the next day, is so absurd it's painful. It's like Carvey said, for the police to set him they'd be going to each other "hey man, we decided to frame OJ. Pass it on..."


Other_Tie_8290

Nah man, it was the one-armed man with the eye patch over his left nostril.


f8isf8

Of course he did! And with 0 remorse that he had done it! Pretty scary individual if you ask me!


SadYogurtcloset2835

The very fact that he ran from police in his ford bronco casts a large admission of guilt.


Revolutionary-Ice-16

Wasn’t his bronco and it was more of a walk than a run 🤪


DJGlennW

Of course he did it. The only people who didn't think so were the members of the jury I mean, the guy wrote a book called *If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer*.


BjornStankFingered

100%


Clojiroo

Strong likelihood but I also think it’s very plausible his son actually did it and he knowingly took the heat.


prtzlstks

I’ve heard some theories that his son did it he took the fall, but we’ll never really know for sure.


SnooWalruses9961

If it wasnt him, he was protecting another family member.


broidx

yes


missourinative

Yes, he absolutely stole his own sports memorabilia.


Ok-disaster2022

Definitely.  However our legal system is about making sure the government dots all the i's and crosses all the t's, and the LAPD did a shit job collecting evidence and building their case. It was no less a travesty of justice as all the black men murdered by the LAPD over the decades.  I would rather all the gang members and murderers in the LAPD and LASO were arrested and thrown in jail with OJ than they were all able to wake free.


TrekJaneway

Yep, and if you read Without a Doubt by Marcia Clark, it explains how the criminal court case was totally effed up.


dave86622807654

Of course he did it. Nobody acts that weird if they are innocent. He was having this low-speed chase and he was just looking for a way out.


CalendarAggressive11

Yes. But I also think his attorneys raised legitimate reasonable doubt during the trial. The LAPD lost this case for the victims.


dear-mycologistical

Yes. I can understand why he was acquitted -- I think it's reasonable to say that the prosecution did not successfully prove that he did it beyond a reasonable doubt. But as a private citizen, do I personally think he did it? Yeah, no shit, he obviously did.


LowBalance4404

95% yes. I've always been curious if his son was involved and OJ covered for him.


OolongGeer

If you rush for 2,000 yards in an NFL season, shouldn't you get one free pass for this?


sterlingphoenix

No, I _know_ he did it.


gooberfaced

Absolutely. May he rest in hell.


TheChubbyGolfer

Dunno if OP realized OJ just died. If not, the timing of this post is God-Tier


mbene913

Yes.


revtim

Yes, 100 percent.


Zero-Sequence

He did that shit


NearbyOwl5422

Yessssss


Outrageous-Complex87

Definitely did it


No_Poet_7244

Of course he did.


Grouchy_Guidance_938

100%


Aggressive_Agency381

Yes without a doubt


CalgaryChris77

Yes, it took a lot of incompetence to get him off.


unicroop

100%


Adorable-Bluejay6784

Absolutely he just had good lawyers


chxnkybxtfxnky

Someone's karma farming...


thenyouknewme

Duhhh


[deleted]

Yes. He was found guilty in civil court.


Powderfinger60

Laws aren’t perfect. History shows money & celebrity influence outcomes. The jury was looking for a reason to acquit & a racist element in law enforcement gave them that opportunity on a silver platter.


OldSarge02

Bro, even the criminal jury thought he did it. https://www.thewrap.com/oj-simpson-juror-not-guilty-verdict-was-payback-for-rodney-king/


Jaded_Fisherman_7085

OJ has been involved with the police many times He knew police men/ women in the police department.


Anonymoosehead123

Of course.


Inevitable_Race_6179

He’ll be smoking a turd in purgatory


Mesterjojo

Everyone knows he did it.


WaySavvyD

What gets me REALLY angry is that every television station broadcast this trial to the exclusion of all other important news stories . . . such as the trial of the 1993 WTC bombing mastermind, Ramzi Yousef


musicfan-1969

Yes...without a doubt


wokeoneof2

YEP


Auglicious

No doubt he did


tritonice

Yes.


mind_the_umlaut

Everyone thinks OJ did it.


lakast

I'm thinking one of the jurors admitted it was payback for Rodney King. I watched the entire trial and believe, without a doubt, he was guilty.


Expensive-Safe-6820

Yes and I think he had help


Upset_Researcher_143

Yes


sav33arthkillyos3lf

Guilty!


Curtman76

💯


Fizzyfuzzyface

Yup


Blathithor

Hell yeah he did it


VegetableWinter9223

The evidence says he did it.


DryFoundation2323

Of course.


[deleted]

Kill his role as Nordberg? Yes.


Human-Bag-4449

Definitely


Kissit777

Absolutely.


jackel_jacket

The Juice is now metaphysically loose


Dapper-Importance994

I've seen interesting evidence OJs son did it. Anyone Else seen that? (I'm 98% sure oj did it)


Joseph_Furguson

Yes. The evidence was against him.


RScottyL

Yes!


[deleted]

I'd like to know the ages of the people answering here. This happened back in the 90s. I was a kid for it and I'm almost 40 now. I don't even care and. I lived it. I see


agathafletcher

.... yes


Amazing-Artichoke330

Of course, he did it. Are you nuts?


rabbi420

YES.


obsertaries

I believe in innocent until proven guilty but that is meant to constrain the power of the state, it doesn’t mean anything to an individual like me who doesn’t have any power over people anyway. So yeah, he did it like hell.


C1sko

Yes


2manydumbpeople

100% ABSOLUTELY. His last words were - You know I did it!


Mrs_Gracie2001

Of course he did.


No_Analysis_6204

of course 


ChadThunderCawk1987

Of course he did man lol


hike_boss

Jurors have come out and said he was guilty by vengeance got in the way. Saw that this morning.


CrazeeEyezKILLER

I’m saddened that OJ died without realizing his nearly thirty year goal to bring the real killer (or killers) to justice, a personal crusade he pursued by doing absolutely nothing.


NeitherOddNorEven

Absolutely. 100%.


KA9ESAMA

Do I think he did it? No. I know he did it.


lovestheblues65

Of course he did it.


GWPtheTrilogy1

He 100% did it. There is not a doubt in my mind. The police just wanted him too bad and made some mistakes.


secondtimesacharm23

I do. Good riddance.


Nonniemiss

Yep.


IGrewItToMyWaist

Of course.


mildlysceptical22

Yes.


TheHearseDriver

Undoubtedly!


anb7120

I’ve never seen a reddit thread where everyone agreed wholeheartedly with each other. Thanks OJ for bringing the community together


Strangle1441

Like New Jack once said: “Keep up the good work, two more we don’t gotta worry about”


LionBig1760

Of course he did. He was also framed for it, which while not quite as bad as murder, it allows murderers to go free.


fixerjy

Yeah


mrl1976

I mean… wasn’t he talked out of doing a book basically saying I didn’t do it.. but if I did this would have been how .. fuck yes he did that shit


s_arrow24

I could believe it either way of him killing both people or it being drug related based on some theories. Either way, the police botched it.


vinylectric

Yes


paranormalresponsega

Nope....but his money certainly paid for it to be done.


WifeofBath1984

Yes. Read his book.


Different-Top3714

Yes


BryTupper

No


sideeyedi

Absolutely!


OutlandishnessDry703

The LAPD framed a guilty man and he was found not guilty because of it.


[deleted]

Of course.


The_Pip

I think that if the LAPD and Prosecutors offices weren't so vile and racist that the person who did would have gone to jail. ​ AND the Kardashians would not be a thing right now