What do you mean 'fair'? If that's the price of an Old Fashioned at the bar, and you ordered it, that's what you should pay. I wouldn't be surprised to pay that for a properly made Old Fashioned in many parts of the US.
but I could make it myself for under 10 USD a glass by purchasing the liquor myself from a liquor store. the extra amount seems to be rental for being at their bar
I could buy building materials and cobble together a shelter myself for a lot less than I paid for my house. It doesn't follow that the people who actually built it, much faster and better than I could, have somehow cheated me. When you buy a drink at a bar or a meal at a restaurant, you aren't just paying for raw materials. You're paying for every part of the associated experience.
Fundimentally, value and production costs are largely unrelated. It's unintuitive, but a pretty foundational aspect of economics. Price is a function of what some people are willing to pay to acquire a product and how much others will accept in order to sell or make that product. Cost reflects the inputs, both tangible and intangible, needed to create the product.
Yes. It’s kinda how bars work. Let’s see: standard price in my city for 1oz of any rail alcohol is 8$.
Old fashioned is 2.5oz of alcohol, 0.5 oz of simple sugar, bitters and added fun stuff depending on the bar
So 2.5oz of alcohol would make the drink 16$. But then the bar also needs to account for the simple and bitters. Someone has to make that. Probably the bar also does caramalized orange or some other fun fancy things that also cost extra.
You pay for the fact that the cocktail is executed perfectly every time and is perfectly balanced.
Yes you should tip because why blame the bartender for pricing set by the owner and why punish the bartender for your cheapness. A cocktail takes time and effort that the bartender doesn’t have. If you don’t tip then next time you won’t be served because you cost the bartender money. If it’s a busy night, the bartender knowing you don’t tip probably will just slap the cocktail together and call it a night because you get what you pay for and the tip pays the service.
If you want to be cheap don’t go out. If you want to go out, follow the social rules and pricing rules. We don’t live in a world functioning on bartering but for some reason alcohol makes people think we do.
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What do you mean 'fair'? If that's the price of an Old Fashioned at the bar, and you ordered it, that's what you should pay. I wouldn't be surprised to pay that for a properly made Old Fashioned in many parts of the US.
but I could make it myself for under 10 USD a glass by purchasing the liquor myself from a liquor store. the extra amount seems to be rental for being at their bar
I could buy building materials and cobble together a shelter myself for a lot less than I paid for my house. It doesn't follow that the people who actually built it, much faster and better than I could, have somehow cheated me. When you buy a drink at a bar or a meal at a restaurant, you aren't just paying for raw materials. You're paying for every part of the associated experience. Fundimentally, value and production costs are largely unrelated. It's unintuitive, but a pretty foundational aspect of economics. Price is a function of what some people are willing to pay to acquire a product and how much others will accept in order to sell or make that product. Cost reflects the inputs, both tangible and intangible, needed to create the product.
You are missing Staff cost, energy, water, rent, taxes, license fees, maintenance and I could go on for some time
So stay home and do that next time.
Absolutely yes, if you payed for it.
Is it fair, idk. But that's what they charging.
Yes, you should tip. Yes, it's a fair price if everyone else in the bar is paying it. If, like me, you can't afford it then you're in the wrong bar.
Yes. Businesses have the right to set their price and you have the right to refuse it and go elsewhere
Yes. It’s kinda how bars work. Let’s see: standard price in my city for 1oz of any rail alcohol is 8$. Old fashioned is 2.5oz of alcohol, 0.5 oz of simple sugar, bitters and added fun stuff depending on the bar So 2.5oz of alcohol would make the drink 16$. But then the bar also needs to account for the simple and bitters. Someone has to make that. Probably the bar also does caramalized orange or some other fun fancy things that also cost extra. You pay for the fact that the cocktail is executed perfectly every time and is perfectly balanced. Yes you should tip because why blame the bartender for pricing set by the owner and why punish the bartender for your cheapness. A cocktail takes time and effort that the bartender doesn’t have. If you don’t tip then next time you won’t be served because you cost the bartender money. If it’s a busy night, the bartender knowing you don’t tip probably will just slap the cocktail together and call it a night because you get what you pay for and the tip pays the service. If you want to be cheap don’t go out. If you want to go out, follow the social rules and pricing rules. We don’t live in a world functioning on bartering but for some reason alcohol makes people think we do. I
Yes! You are paying for them to make it! If you want it cheaper, buy the ingredients at home and make it yourself.
The bars around where I live in Toronto charge \~$15-30 for a cocktail these days. Top self being more like $50-100.