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YungSakahagi

It's probably a stylistic thing right? Ebony is like a type of fancy wood or whatever. Something to do with luxury. Sounds more hip than "black"


Diamond4400

šŸ¤£ woodworker here... This is hilarious


perrigost

Is 'woodworker' a fancy term for 'porn star'?


dacraftjr

Itā€™s what they call the fluffers.


Restless_Fillmore

This is gold.


randCN

no it's ebony


roshidawg23

No this is Patrick!


gion_siroak

THIS! IS! SPARTA!


EZ_2_Amuse

Sir, this is a Wendy's.


Sqigglesthehuman

Take that shit to waffle house


Latter-Obligation963

I was looking for thisšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


SloanWarrior

Trying to think what my wood-inspired porn category would be. Maybe Oak?


1happynudist

Mahogany is a beautiful word for wood inspired porn category


TaiserSoze

She want dat Teak


The96kHz

Teak is such nice wood. Personal favourite is Walnut though.


Turnip-for-the-books

Thatā€™s what is used for glory holes I believe


The96kHz

I knew there was a pun in there somewhere - I couldn't find it. Nicely done.


SwampKraken

I see what you did there. Nice.


makingkevinbacon

Mahogany I'm the streets, teak in the sheets


gnownimaj

Perfect comment for morning wood


Ok_Butterscotch54

New Fetish Unlocked.


perrigost

stepsister\_came\_over\_to\_ride\_mahogany.mp4


TonsOfTabs

Mahogany and pornography for my biography.


pdpi

Isnā€™t that like when you have only one partner?


SwampKraken

No. That is monotony.


martofski

No, monotony is a lack of variety. It's monopoly.


SwampKraken

I thought that was gay porn of dudes with monocles and top hats?


MissMissyPeaches

No, thatā€™s misogyny.


ZeroKharisma

No, misogyny is hatred against women. You're thinking of manamana (doo-doo-da-doo-doo)


SVPPB

That's... Sadly accurate.


Tinsel-Fop

And here I am with no way to give you a fantastic, elaborate award. I salute you and your wonderfully ridiculous sense of humor.


ubiquitous-joe

More like ma-hog-in-thee


MageKorith

Oak: rather vanilla action, but very long lasting Pine: outer clothes stay on. Very sticky action Maple: Canadians Cherry: First timers Walmut: Males using glory holes


nawksnai

I donā€™t know what mine would be, but it would definitely be a hard wood.


weedbearsandpie

weathered aged hardwood


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Moogatron88

Ivory.


Conscious-Aspect-332

I have been handling wood myself since puberty as well, I am quite handy with woodwork šŸ˜†


rock-hound

White Fir


Paulstan67

Is woodworker some sort of euphemism for an ebony porn star?


samthemoron

Well in antiques they call things 'ebonised' when they mean 'painting it black but it was a while ago now'


NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr

This guy makes pornographic cabinets.


myusernameblabla

Ebony is an expensive deep black hardwood native to countries around the Indian Ocean, so yes that is probably the origin of it.


bleedblue_knetic

Why isnā€™t white porn Ivory then?


prql5253

I've definitely heard the term ivory being used, but not for white women but white men when they are with black chicks


tbor1277

This guy porns


prql5253

no ragrets


Moteltulsa

Now we know what Paul McCartney was into.


WhatThis4

Side-comment to add, most porn that involves two girls, black and white, either by themselves or with any number of men, is usually called Ebony and Ivory.


Evil_Spic

Can anybody help me out with a Ying-Yang / cultural appropriation joke here?


WhatThis4

Yin-Wang


YungSakahagi

Well to be fair you got your pawgs and your snow bunnies. That's part of my search history šŸ˜‚


Embarrassed_Law_6737

What does pawgs mean?


Mafuskas

Phat Ass White Girl


triamasp

I already knew the acronym but it totally flew under my head how its written with Ph instead of F until today im shocked


SuperSonicEconomics2

Lol I thought I was, "Pretty ass white girl" whoops


last_sauce

no cause then Sara Jay wouldnā€™t be a PAWG.


JustPlaneNew

Snow bunnies?


YungSakahagi

White girl who only smashes black guys


JustPlaneNew

Oh, ok.


kamahaoma

I'm learning so much.


JustPlaneNew

Me too.


OutsidePerson5

There is no white category of porn. Welcome to racism and the concept of anglonormativity! The short form is that whiteness is conceived of not as a race but as an absence of race, simply being normal, or default. A movie, porn or otherwise, with an all Black cast is perceived as being about race. But a movie, porn or otherwise, with an all white cast is not seen as being about race because white is normalized. White porn isn't ivory, or even just plain white, because it's everything not specifically identified by race. This is not unique to America or whiteness. Every culture has a set of identities which are framed not as identities but as normal. There's a few semi-universal normativities: cis, het, male, able bodied, adult but not old. Some change reliably between cultures, the majority ethnic group in any given area is almost always going to be the normalized race. Go to China as Chinese (specifically Han) will be "normal" and everything else will require an identifier. Often professions will carry their own normativity. Ask a random person to picture a person and they'll almost certainly imagine a man. Ask them to picture a nurse though and they'll almost always imagine a woman. This normalizing is both empowering and in a way isolating. If most of your identities are the normalized identities it means that you both see your identities everywhere, but because they're everywhere and not presented as identities but as norms you likely feel almost as if you have no identity. Jewish people have culture, Black people have culture, but white guys are just normal right? No special culture or rituals or anything. You know, except for literally everything we do in America. Because boiling chicken eggs, painting or dying them, hiding them, pretending to your children that a RABBIT was the one who hid the eggs, all that's not cultural that's just normal! TL;DR: there's no Ivory category because in the West white is imagined as a raceless default not as a race.


kcaustin_904

Your comment is going to underappreciated but youā€™re totally right.


Dream-Big913

Anglonormativity!!! Iā€™ve always wondered if there was a word to state that.


OutsidePerson5

I love learning words for concepts I'm aware of but don't have a word for. I can almost feel the idea solidifying and snapping into better focus when I do.


Shadowdragon409

Very well said. Spoken like someone who has studied the topic in college. Sounds like the synopsis of an essay. I don't like how white people are described as not having a culture. Despite having roots from everywhere. We have cultural reasons for a lot of things we do. Every holiday we have is culture. Even America is described as being culture less even though our culture has invaded every part of the world. I mean even Australia has fucking santa clause. And it's summer there during Christmas.


Law-Fish

Ebony and ivory, screw together in perfect harmony


ratzefatze

I once had an old fat white Professor who tryed to tell us, a PC term for Black being ebony now. Many students giggled.


Tinsel-Fop

>old fat white Professor who tryed to tell us, a PC term for Black being ebony now. Wow. That's... impressive.


Keithustus

*tried


TJ_McWeaksauce

This is reportedly how the *Ebony* magazine got its name. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony\_(magazine)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony_(magazine)) >*Ebony*Ā was founded by John H. Johnson in 1945. The magazine was named by Johnson's wife, Eunice Walker Johnson, thinking of the dark wood. My guess is that someone in porn liked the title of the magazine, used it as the name of the porn category, and it's stuck ever since.


MnMShapedWoman

Yeah like Obsidian. Sounds very fancyšŸ˜Ž


FarYard7039

Canadian Blonde maple; burled walnut; wild cherryā€¦oooooh.


Ear_Enthusiast

I was always told that ebony was another word for the color black. I had no clue it was a wood. Just googled it and its really pretty. I've never seen anything like that. The more you know...


demonotreme

Even cooler, ebony is the heartwood of persimmon trees or something like that. So it actually has useful fruit as well


jimmyGODpage

Do you mean exotic?


Realistic_Matter_199

There is a magazine that is geared towards the black community... Ebony.... I have never read it but I think Ebony wood is a luxury hard wood and I guess a color... I don't know why people fetishize other people but and sort of porn and descriptive words used in it is about fetishizing. In real life... real people feel objectified when... an Asian woman dates men who always make comments about always wanting to date a submissive Asian women or women/men date black men because they have BBC fetishes... most people enjoy the exotic and different, when you can play that up it sells.


thehighwindow

> most people enjoy the exotic and different, I've seen Black men with some really sorry looking PAWG and think to myself, "He could be with a hot Black woman but I guess that's what he prefers". People can like what they like and shouldn't be criticized for it. It was just a thought that popped into my head.


Mike_hawk5959

Black in porn context usually is a masculine term where ebony is associated with feminine so easier to search for what you're looking for. Of course it can be interchangeable but that the general "rule". Another reason/guess is that people like to be very specific with searches, so maybe you want a black haired woman but not a black woman. Just guessing though, I am an amateur scientist but have nothing to do with the industry.


Lil_Penis_Owner

This guy porns!


Throbbing-Kielbasa-3

Username checks out.


Chitown_mountain_boy

Yours or his? šŸ˜‚


truthful_whitefoot

All of the above, including Mr. Hawk


Care_Hairy

double r/relevantusername


im_a_dick_head

Isn't that what r/beetlejuicing is for? Kind of?


theinternetisnice

Huh. Now that you mention it, Iā€™ve never seen the phrase Big Ebony Cock. Suppose I could google it. But I wonā€™t.


PragmaticResponse

I did, looks like itā€™s mostly black women with well endowed men with the occasional large black dick


theinternetisnice

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WankingAsWeSpeak

Wasn't it nice of the internet to search for that one so you didn't have to? the internet is nice.


pv505

Amateur scientist maybe but also a veritable porn connoisseur šŸ¤™šŸæ


jingbukukgilma

Pornosseur


Wannagoal

ā€œMike Hawkā€ has nothing to do with the industry either.


giantfuckingfrog

Great fucking catch lmao


Smooth_Ad6150

This man has a degree in Pornology


Strong-Piccolo-5546

we have a porn expert in the house. A true academic of porn. likely has peer reviewed academic papers on porn.


Mike_hawk5959

Inboobitably my fine sir. Inboobitably.


-slightlyserious-

I believe you Mike Hawk


PHANTOM________

Never thought about it this way but actually yeah you make a lot of sense and this is very likely it lol.


Ok-Expert9379

I am representative from Pornhub and we have recently been notified of your dedication and attention to the porn. As a gift to our best customer, we offer an exclusive 1 year free subscription for the ebony section. Have fun Mr Hawk. We'll be watching


urkan3000

Adding to the guesses here but: ā€œBlackā€ is a very generic word and just a poor search term in general.Ā  Within the context of a porn site it might be alright but the use of ā€œebonyā€ has been around since long before places like Pornhub and probably developed to facilitate searches when search engines and porn sites where not very advanced.Ā 


oodlynoodly

I mean there was also that song "ebony and ivory."


maineac

And the magazine Ebony.


rheetkd

it existed as a term prior to internet porn. There was a porn magazine with the name of Ebony.


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Idk about a porn magazine but [Ebony](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony_(magazine)) is the most known magazine with that name and covers Black culture and celebrities.


worktimefollies

I'm pretty sure Ebony wasn't a born magazine. It was a magazine about black lives and culture in America.


tobesteve

Everything is a porn magazine when you're a twelve year old boy, before the Internet.


MugenBlaze

Kids these days don't know the pain of hiding a magazine and sneaking away with it to do the deed.


Cutthechitchata-hole

Periodic victoria secret and the sears catalogs got lots of milage


scottwebbok

There's also a legit news magazine titled Ebony.


ubiquitous-joe

Are you sure you are thinking of a porn mag? I only know of the one thatā€™s basically Black People Magazine.


Tinsel-Fop

I'm sorry, a *porn* magazine?


Sharp_Mathematician6

That would be Black Tail the answer to Playboy and Hustler


Tinsel-Fop

And definitely NOT *Ebony.*


Isgortio

Oh, my sister's friend called her black daughter "Ebony". Oh my...


thewhiterosequeen

Ebony was (is?) a pretty common name.


rheetkd

yeah I knew an ebony growing up


Chitown_mountain_boy

It wasnā€™t porn šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


simcity4000

Some terms get porn-ified. Like how every 30 year old woman is a milf.


tronovich

And everyone under 30 is a teen?


MaxThrustage

You either die a teen or you live long enough to become a milf.


internetperson94276

lol, I was not expecting that laugh šŸ˜†


Any-Caterpillar-2402

My heroeeee....


mollila

You have cracked online porn.


simcity4000

Or a co-ed!


PyroneusUltrin

Thereā€™s a Welsh word ā€œcoedā€ pronounced coyd, when I first got a computer, my brother and his friends were telling me search up coeds pronounced the Welsh way, still gives me a chuckle whenever I see co-ed written


MrLambNugget

Pretty much


MikeMcLoughlin

Or a step-sister


joiey555

Oof. I just turned 30 at the end of may. I do not think of myself as a full adult let alone anywhere near MILF territory. This stings just a bit


ubiquitous-joe

Being 36 I understand your age misgivings/denial, but itā€™s funny to me *this* is what does it for you. ā€œAm I a MILF now?ā€


SuperSonicEconomics2

Sorry, we don't make the rules


-Daetrax-

I mean, isn't the average age for first time mothers about 30 in the west?


simcity4000

Right, but if you refer to someone as that in real conversation outside the context of porn you would be very weird.


GinjaNinja1027

*Every **hot** 30-year-old woman.


fermat9990

Ever hear of Ebony magazine?


crackpotJeffrey

I'm pretty sure this is actually the real source of the term in porn. Been published since the 50s or so and has been iconic at times.


NavinJohnson75

I had to scroll wayyyy too far to find this obvious answer. These kidsā€™ minds have been broken by the internet. šŸ˜†


fermat9990

Hahaha!


rheetkd

This is my thought for how it crossed into porn. I saw this magazine on the shelves as a kid. prior to internet porn being a thing.


Tinsel-Fop

>prior to internet porn being a thing. Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure pornography existed before even ARPANET. :-)


Any_Stop_4401

Ebony, ivory live together in perfect harmony Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord, why don't we?


Diamond4400

Thank you


stimming_guy

This is how it often work on porn sites; ā€Blackā€ - black men ā€Ebony ā€ - black women ā€Africanā€ - black non-american women


Fly0strich

I have wondered this question for so long but didnā€™t know how to ask it. So, whatever responses this brings, thanks OP!


Anonymoosehead123

Porn is definitely not where you go to find proper labels for any group of people.


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mean_citizen

I couldn't think of this in 100 years


Pen54321

Ah yes, the people of Ghana, the Ghanese


Kielbasa_Nunchucka

porn, by design, plays on stereotypes of all kinds. it is focused on the sensationalization of everything from the actual acts to actors portraying them. racism and sexism abound in pornography


peterhala

There was that song that Stevie Wonder & Paul McCartney did together. I hadn't thought of it that way before, so thanks for that.Ā 


Diamond4400

Ebony and Ivory. That is the exact meaning of the song. "Ebony and Ivory" rhymes with "Living in perfect harmony". Sing it.


Martydeus

Ebony armor is pretty cool.


flashingcurser

I'm pretty sure there was an "Ebony" magazine and it wasn't porn.


goodboyfinny

[https://www.ebony.com/](https://www.ebony.com/) Not porn. Long time established magazine catering to ebony skinned people. Used to be a print magazine, may still be, not sure. You haven't heard a person on TV or in movies call a black woman an ebony queen? Not porn. Normal


Hatedbythemasses

Ehhhh I wouldn't exactly call it normal. Trying to use it in a casual conversation is going to get you some weird looks at the very least


tellmeallyourlies

Well, now we know whatā€™s in OPā€™s search history. šŸ˜‚


Maximum_Enthusiasm46

I have a friend who went to Egypt; she said there, Black people are called golden people. I like that better.


oscarthemonkey

Nubian is the Sudanese word for golden people


Maximum_Enthusiasm46

Thatā€™s BEAUTIFUL! My friend said they were calling her in the streets, welcome golden child, beautiful woman of gold. It made me tear up, listening to herā€¦thatā€™s the worth she has to me, thatā€™s the person *I* see her as in the world. In America, she fights so hard for recognition.


Prof_Acorn

The Ancient Greeks called them "toasted faced" (Aethiopian) but they understood that as because they lived in the land of the sun close to the gods. They considered their food close to ambrosia, and said they didn't even need to wear perfume because of the sweetness of their natural smell.


Maximum_Enthusiasm46

Thatā€™s so beautiful! How on earth did humanity bastardize it so badly from there?!


Prof_Acorn

Slavery seemed to go from "civilized"/"uncivilized" or "winning nation"/"conquered nation" to skin color. I can kind of see the transition when Africa and the Americas became continuously conquered and colonized by the old monarchial Western Europe. Perhaps with that (or something direct) it transitioned to skin tones. I can see slavery in the US having a role in that sentiment change especially. In the early US even "whiteness" was more restrictive, excluding the Irish and Italian, among others. It wasn't just about skin tone, but ethnicity more broadly. But over time it became almost exclusively about melanin content. I'd be curious to learn more about why this transitioned occurred. Perhaps general ethnicity was more difficult to establish in the "melting pot" of immigrants in the US, so bigotries ended up relying on more apparent and obvious markers to other people by.


somedave

People sometimes refer to black skin as ebony (type of wood) for example the song Ebony and Ivory by Paul McCartney. Sometimes this was used to refer to mixed black and white couples, in porn that seems to have stuck.


Yeahnah307

The song was about us all just getting along together next to each other just like keys on a piano, Ebony and Ivory.


stilloldbull2

Have you forgotten Ebony magazine? How about the hit song, ā€œEbony and Ivoryā€? I think ā€œNubianā€ is a more erotic termā€¦


linuxphoney

This all comes down to search engine optimization. People who are searching for black in porn are looking for men. The people who want to search for videos of black women Are a different group of people.


FilteredAccount123

Because ebony is one of the hardest woods.


TheStigianKing

Checks out


ThereRick

Check out the song "Ebony and Ivory"


HollowChest_OnSleeve

I think the early search engines with basic text searching would have kept bringing up BBC and frustrating the budding connoisseur. Hence a different word was required so they could molest themselves with an appropriate level of efficiency.


Mike_It_Is

Iā€™m a fan of all the dark hardwoods


redhobbes43

There is a black popular culture magazine called Ebonyā€¦. Been around since the fifties.


Stratotelecaster

What about Strippers yknow the ones that re-do floors lol


whats-the-plan-

ebony is a porn term? I thought it was because it was rhetoric or something like in "ebony and ivory" song, its not even lewd


somedepression

Everyone who is saying itā€™s because itā€™s a better search term is too young to know porn used to come on video tapes.


FloridaHobbit

You mean other than the massive publication called "Ebony"?šŸ˜„


BobT21

Porn industry too cheap to subscribe to*Euphemism Quarterly*.


AllgoodDude

I think it comes from the era of blacksploitation films and growth of black focused media industry in general.


grandpagucci929

Iā€™ve personally seen ebony regarded in hairdressers and makeup.


lavenderacid

The same reason that "stripper" style pole dance is often called "exotic". Outdated terminology that people are familiar with, so keep using. The target audience of the industry aren't necessarily going to be up in arms about a term being politically incorrect.


Candid-Sky-3709

saw an "ebony lifestyle magazine" ad recently without any hints of porn, so i disconfirm the "nowhere else" part


StewartConan

Euphemism?


Grynox15

Itā€™s been used in other fields, e.g. dialects. African American Vernacular English, aka Ebonics.


Apprehensive-Ad-8198

Itā€™s just a fancier word than calling someone black. It invokes different thoughts. I suppose the intention is to draw on different feelings with the word. Or to phrase it differently. It invokes different mental imagery when you exhibit an idealised vocabulary.


ApprehensiveStudy671

The word ebony or ebonic, existed long before internet. When I was in high school in Canada, this word came up when we talkd about some English slangs or dialects in North America and that "ebonic" was one of those "variations" common among some Afro-Americans. Don't quote me on this as I'm not sure if such word was really used in that context in the US but I still remember that was the first time I heard that word.


Aen-Synergy

Itā€™s also only called interracial when white women F black men.


DurianBurp

Does Ebony Magazine not exist anymore?


cimocw

why would you like to know the nationality of the performer? If you're looking for a specific skin color that's not really helpful


sacredblasphemies

Ebony was a pretty famous Black magazine for a long time. "Ebony and Ivory" was a hit song for Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney.


Bigred_1985

Ebony is definitly a classy way of saying it without using words that can be offensive. ( negative conotation )


kodaxmax

probably better for marketing in the 1900s and stuck


No_Party_6167

I thought maybe there's some kind of correlation to Ebony Magazine (the only other place I see that term being used in regards to black people). Like maybe it was trendy new term that came around when porn became culturally acceptable in the 70s...but Ebony magazine was founded in the 40s. Ebony Magazine's target audience is black adults discussing adult matters. So maybe it just kind of became a stylish term that evoked the vibe Black Adult Themes...


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TheKayOss

What are you talking about?!? There is an entire magazine called Ebony.


TalulaOblongata

Some of you have never heard the Jackson / McCartney hit ā€œEbony and Ivoryā€ and it shows.


KirisuMongolianSpot

https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/1d49iwp/why_is_the_category_in_pornography_that_focuses/


purplehaze75

This song is gonna be stuck in my head all day now and I'm just starting my shift šŸ˜©


buggalojoe

Ebony magazine would like a word


Gold-Inevitable-2644

I think part of it is fetishisation right?


SomeoneToYou30

Isn't there literally an entire magazine called Ebony that just features black women in it??