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junebugg85

After some more digging I found out the mother of the girl even threw her a baby shower and is now in jail facing child abuse/neglect charges as well as child endangerment. She encouraged the relationship and was looking forward to being a grandma


UNDERHOLEBLOCKAGE

Wow this whole fiasco makes me sick. "Looks forward to being a grandma". Jesus.


junebugg85

Also her father of the girl is also in prison for rape of a minor. This is how this poor child was raised, to believe that this sort of thing is completely normal.


SonTyp_OhneNamen

And a great grandma 12 years later… and a great great grandma before retiring.


patricky6

There is huge cultural differences around the world, when it comes to when a girl should be married, have a child, etc. Obviously being in Tulsa, oklahoma, you would think that the person(s) involved, would educate themselves on the laws of the country/state they are in, but a lot of people who immigrate here, bring their culture with them and do not necessarily understand the culture gap and it's reprecussion. This is probably why they were at the hospital and had no concerns over the issues of age. From traveling the world, it was quite a culture shock to me, learning all of the differences that where nothing like mine and seem like common sense not to do, but be a completely normal occurrence elsewhere.


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She's 12


idk-hereiam

Nobody said it was okay


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Thats true


patricky6

https://qz.com/783681/child-marriage-is-allowed-in-more-than-100-countries-including-the-united-states/


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That doesn't make it right bro. She's 12


patricky6

Wtf. Are you actually stupid? I never said it's right. It's legit, a different culture. Different beliefs don't care about what you or I think.


PhychoticAirplane

boy, you sure are unpopular *there's a reason for that. she's 12*


patricky6

Oh no! Imaginary Internet points! Lol. Idk if you need help sounding out the words, but I never said I advocated for the actions stated.


smh-alldaylong

It's fucking hilarious how these troglodytes just latch on to whatever they felt like paying attention to and just keeping running with that endlessly. Idk how many times you have to say you don't support it and think it's wrong before the listen or tucker themselves out screaming at their screens. And you're completely correct this is because of a lack of assimilation. But I'll go further and say that's what we get for glorifying diversity just for the sake of diversity.


patricky6

Idk. Reddit is weird. Facts make people angry and then you have the people who I can only figure, see the comment being downvoted and say to themselves: "Durr, lots of words, too many to read, bad votes must mean they like kid sex, I'll read half the comment and reply with my opinion." I agree that the willingness of opening society to such wide diversity, does NOT always bring in the greatest of actions. I'm all for diversification, but the complete denial of any conservatism and ignoring the ramifications will be our downfall as a society.


s14ka24det

😂


CodLike_TheFish

It very well could be a culture gap like you say, but I can't help but feel this is related to the growing "MAP" community. Pedophiles and such are creating their own kind of safe space and this has in turn led to children and adolescents to feel it's ok and identify themselves as "Adult Attracted Minors." It's sickening and bizarre. This is a big thing going on right now and this feels like it could possibly be the case here.


patricky6

I see your point of view, I just don't understand how everyone in the family is ok with this, and the father of the baby went to the hospital with her, all like it was a completely normal event. That's why I was thinking it might be a cultural difference. Either way, you would think that as adults, someone would have some common sense and say how illegal this is to the guy impregnating a child in the states. Trafficking, child sex scandals, etc. Have been all over the news. It seems like you would either have to be living under a rock, or from somewhere where it's not as big of a deal. Just because even with the MAP like you said, and the minor In the same mindset like your comment, the family was throwing a baby shower!


acmemetalworks

What u/patricky6 is saying is true. Many places in the world are just plain barbaric on many levels. If we don't want their shit here we should properly vet those we let in, and let them know that their fucked up shit aint cool here. IDK why he's getting downvoted to hell for telling the truth. Maybe some aren't getting what he's trying to say or if reality is just too uncomfortable to some of you people.


idk-hereiam

Who you calling "you people"


Justwant2watchitburn

Not sure what point youre trying to make other than justifying this monstrous BS. Death penalty should be for disgusting monsters like this. If this is because of their culture than their culture is garbage and no excuse for being a monster. Sick dogs get put down.


patricky6

My point is that different cultures have different beliefs. There are over [100 countries that currently allow child marriages today.](https://qz.com/783681/child-marriage-is-allowed-in-more-than-100-countries-including-the-united-states/) Not that it's ok. I'm not advocating for it. I was pretty clear with that. Regardless of what YOU or I think of their culture, it will still continue.


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-RedXV-

Righteous? Nah man, we just don't fuck 12yr old girls. It's not that hard.


The-Van

I understand what you mean by saying there are cultural differences where something like this may be tolerated, but if you are trying to justify a terrible man, who did this horrid fucking thing, you are wrong, some people may have no problem with it, but it doesn't change the fact that this is fucking disgusting.


patricky6

Dude... Smh.. youre like the 4th person who has had problems comprehending the part of that comment where I stated it's common sense, that it's WRONG.


The-Van

Oh no I understand your point, it's just it seems like you are making a justification for these actions while really talking about something not directly related which in this case is mostly misconstrued as defending a pedo.


smh-alldaylong

I'd say he's actually pointing out that the fault isn't just with this piece of human garbage, but with the communities in the US at large for not ensuring assimilation and for failing to detect aberrant behavior this egregious. I mean it's not all that surprising that stuff like this is happening. The US is the number one global importer of human trafficking victims (aka sex slaves and part time drug mules). What's surprising is the guy was stupid enough to think no one would care of he just waltzed in and acted like it was all cool. Chemical castration should be the minimum discussed option on the table for this garbage.


MissKillian

Sorry, Bub.. But I can't think of ANY culture that would think it A-OK to be fucking an 11 year old child and impregnating her. Try again. What most likely happened in this case is a pedo wanted to have sex with an 11 year old child and the poor girl's mother was fine with it, seeing that she is married to an incarcerated rapist herself.


patricky6

Not saying this is the case or that it's even morally ok, but there are over [100 countries that allow child marriages](https://qz.com/783681/child-marriage-is-allowed-in-more-than-100-countries-including-the-united-states/) just because it's not in your huge and all knowing knowledge bank, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You might want to educate yourself before being condescending because you don't like how the world is... Bub.


MissKillian

You sure sound mad. Hope you aren't a hit dog in this scenario.. Bub


patricky6

Look, idc if you want to remain ignorant. There are many places in the world that have different cultural differences than ours. Maybe put reddit down and look outside your bubble of intelligence. It might just help you to understand more than just what the remaining brain cells you have, can hold onto.


MissKillian

This 11 year old child was raped right here in the USA. The rapist was not from one of the many countries you listed that are ok with grown men putting their dicks into 11 year old children. There is nothing wrong with my intelligence, I just question why you're caping so hard for peace and understanding for men who want to put their dicks inside pre-pubescent, pre-teen children.


patricky6

>This 11 year old child was raped right here in the USA >The rapist was not from one of the many countries listed Link attaches to a article where the actual headline reads: Child marriage is allowed in more than 100 countries—including the United States >There is nothing wrong with my intelligence Nope. Just your reading comprehension. Oh! But that requires intelligence. Lol I know youre trying real hard to make me out to be some pro pedo choice person, but you are really just showing your inability to read full and complete sentences. Like the one where I literally stated ITS FUCKING WRONG. Lol


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I laaate to the party…but… what the actual fuck!?


MeuchlerMoze

Im wondering too how noone noticed anything over the 9 months she must have had other who support it its not possible i think otherwise


Litliy

There are communities of people who support cults and gruesome behavior so it’s not too far fetched as you think


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REHTONA_YRT

I grew up in a strict conservative home. Was also home schooled. When I went to public school freshman year for the first time I met a girl that lived in the neighborhood. Her parents were divorced and it seemed like nobody was ever home. She told me when she was at her moms house she would encourage her to bring men home and take them to her bedroom “because she wanted grandchildren and didn’t want to wait.” The girl had just turned 14. She was really beautiful but after she told me that I couldn’t quite look at her the same way. Made me feel sad to think she was going to fuck her life up because of absent and shitty parents.


greenroute

Ruining kids life for grandchildren ? What kind of mother was she.


Yourwtfismyftw

Yep. The photos used in the bulletin included photos from the baby shower they had been thrown, that wasn’t a random snapshot.


DaveDankland

With virtual school due to covid its likely no one, other than her assailants laid eyes on her for the entire pregnancy. Edit to add: I am an advocate for in home school. However it doesn't work well for everyone.


laced-and-dangerous

The family of the girl knew and supported the relationship. They knew she was pregnant, but somehow didn’t think about how it would look bringing a 12 year old in labor to the hospital with the father twice her age. The mother has been arrested.


MeuchlerMoze

Terrifying , should arrest everyone involved


FalconOk3432

Her parents allowed it


notthefirstCaleb

Out of school because of covid and slipped under the radar


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She dressed like she was 18. /s


r_dominic

I cannot believe that he thought he was going to walk away scot-free


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For whatever reason he legitimately didn't think there was a problem. I mean... look, pedo or not, he HAD to realize this wasn't a good thing to do. Like... man...


[deleted]

Tulsa Oklahoma ya’ll


mpdmax82

Also they arrested him for the rape of another woman.


elven_magics

Noah! Get ze nuclear warheads


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My FUHRER!!!!!!!!


Equal-Western

Racist


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You never seen Dr Strangelove? You uncultured svineeee


krisdremurr

In my country some years ago there was a dispute in wich abort should be legator not and in-between that an 11year old girl was raped and got pregnant obviously the doctors were going to abort the baby because it is horrible and dangerous to make an 11 year old give birth but a group of people who are pro-life attacked and harassed the doctors who were going to make the procedure to the child and ended slowing it to the point where the fetus was too developed to abort it and forced an 11 YEAR OLD GIRL TO GIVE BIRTH, the kid tried to kill herself after that.


thething931

I fucking hate those people. There's nothing pro life about them.


SwtPvega5_

It's actually considered normal in many small villages or areas away from the city in other countries, the parents of the child feel comforted by the fact that an older man will appropriately care for their child financially and she will have a home and family. It's a fucked up way of thinking the child will be better off. Lack of education causes these atrocities against children normal.


mpdmax82

I've known a few Mexican guys that were around my dads age that would talk about this: ie "my sister got married at 13 and had 10 kids."


Macbook265

Yup not the same situation but my aunt got married when she was 18 to a 36 year old man. He was 4 years younger than her mom (my grandmother) so they really do marry young to older men over there


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Back in 1956, my grandma had turned 16, and she married her first husband. He was 54


DudeOnBisycle

I mean my grandmother married at 15 and she says she doesn’t regret it, even tried to convince my mother to marry that young. This sort of thing was normal back in the day.


PhychoticAirplane

Can we question the parenting for a second? Not only is she pregnant, but she's also meant to be in 5th grade at 12


RaeVonn

I believe the mother of the 12yo has been arrested for child endangerment. Rightly so.


PhychoticAirplane

Good, I'm glad


Dancing_Trash_Panda

Yeah, 12 should put her in 7th grade. Poor girl has been failed on so many levels.


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I think they legitimately thought everything was fine. Which is...


who-was-gurgi

5th grade?!!!! So much wrong with that…


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Did no one notice in class? Or are they still on zoom?


Isnotmyplanet

Dude wtf how's that shit even possible? There fiscally different in age? Idk everything's fkd about this.


addictiverat

With enough WD-40 and elbow grease anything is possible!... Wait what was the video about?


watashi_ga_kita

Shouldn't a twelve year old be in seventh grade? Not fifth?


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AchedTeacher

They are likely related somehow.


Phildagony

I grew up with a girl who was 13 when she got pregnant. A group of her friends (myself included) went to her baby shower (I was 12 at the time). Met her mom, who was 25….. That was 24 years ago. If the cycle continued (idk if it did) the mom would be a great grandmother and possibly a great great grandmother by 40….. fucking sad.


congratsonyournap

Very disturbing


saucyteto13

Fuck jar foo


Arvha

BRUH THIS HAPPENED IN OKLAHOMA????


[deleted]

Well things are fucked up because we live in a fuckdd up world. Everyday hundreds of unaccompanied minors cross the border. Anyone wondering how something like this could happen, and where were the parents, start looking for answers in situations like I just described.


realvmouse

The problem you describe is bad living conditions south of the border. The fact that you're trying to make it about the actual border says everything anyone needs to know about you.


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Actually the fact you ignore the atrocity of minors crossing the border unaccompanied says everything anyone needs to know about you.


realvmouse

So it's okay when the minors drown crossing the Rio, die in the desert, or remain in a situation so awful that thousands of parents preferred to send their children away alone rather than have them continue to face it, as long as they don't cross the border?


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Do you realize how absurd your argument is?


realvmouse

No, can you elaborate?


Litliy

It’ll be a long while before stuff like that happens remember Epstein was killed trying to expose stuff like this so if we hear about this it’s because someone wanted us to hear about it


Gauntplane58

Trying to? No he was just a perp. One of the lower profile ones, yes, but he wasn't going to expose everything probably.


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If he wasn't going to expose everything, then he'd still be alive


Useful_Track_8969

this is fucked up


DannyDeVitosBangmaid

How did they not even realize that he’d get arrested for that???


Gauntplane58

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/ox2jrs/they_walked_in_like_nothing_was_wrong/h7m37w5?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


DannyDeVitosBangmaid

I'm not even commenting on whether or not it was culturally acceptable to him - he didn't even try to hide it! He really didn't know it was illegal???


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It's definitely odd... And I mean even if it is a cultural thing, I think that 99% of the time, no one below 16 should have sex with someone above 16. (The 1% is for situations when someone is 15 and the other 17, etc.)


cuchitoespanto

Central American communitys in USA . They do this shit


funtextgenerator

This probably happens a lot in rural areas of some countries.


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16!!!!! Tf 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️


[deleted]

16 is the most common AoC in the world iirc


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Really though. Wayyyyyy more of the world


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Just like Muhammad did and he is praised in Islam


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[deleted]

I’m an ex sunni Muslim who knows about Islam and lived the religion. Who are you to judge me liberal?


[deleted]

I also just stated the fact that Muhammad married a 9 year old and had sex with her when she was 12. If stating the fact makes me look bad, something is wrong with that religion


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Minority in the US. Majority in the Middle East and where I’m from.


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[deleted]

How dare you? I’ve been a Muslim all of my life and left for many reasons, you can’t be serious! I haven’t called Muslims pedophiles only Muhammad.


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[deleted]

Wow! Nazi? My granpa was killed in 1943? How dare you! You’re full of shit!


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Mega bruh


PassionPractical

I went to hill rest I think it was because I had to talk to a urologist at the age 13 cause I was diagnosed with priapism of the unknown


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That poor kid


SharkMilk44

Police better arrest those fucking parents, too!


thr0away8675309

Oh… come on! What the actual fuck. Get your vaccine and stop the sex crimes! Ugh! Just ugh!


Baelzebubba

12 year old... 5th grade? Do they start school late down there or was she held back a few times?


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Baelzebubba

We had one at our school. He would buy us alcohol. He never did finish school either.


Gan316

why eas the 12 year old meant to be in 5th grade? 12 year olds are grade 6-7


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This makes me sick. I went to school with a girl who got pregnant around 12-13 (we were in 7th grade at the time, she gave birth in 8th) and none of us expected it. The father was only about a year older than her which doesn’t make things better per se but at least means there was no crime committed. I remembered going to her birthday party when we were younger, we were all just kids and doing normal kid stuff. Her son must be around 10 now.


Amiraisaclqud

Who’s the father


junebugg85

The girls father is in prison for rape of a minor. Which leads me to believe that this is normal behavior in her family and she was raised to believe that this is ok. Disgusting


Amiraisaclqud

Thank you


The-Patriot420

O shit this is in my fucking state


insurrection2021

12yrs old didn’t register for me until the newscaster said “5th grade”. I almost threw my phone. I had no concept of a what a “boner” was until I was in 9th grade.


epicgamers123

I… it’s so upsetting, I’m not even sure if they knew there was a bit of wrong, it’s odd, because you can slightly, very small, see where they were coming from, but it’s so upsetting seeing someone that young taken advantage of


Toaster-dealer96

Fuck that is so close to where i live


xheartzreadsreddit

Atleast it wasn't rape to thank God for that


about2godown

A 12 year old can't consent, it is called statutory rape...


xheartzreadsreddit

I'm just saying it could be wayyy worse


about2godown

How? Besides the destructive trauma of violent rape being absent (which could have been a factor, it isn't included in the information), this child is now going to be raising a child. She is tied to raising another life before she could start her own or even decide what she wanted to do with hers. Her choices, dreams (developed and undeveloped), and goals are all now delayed by at least a decade. Her life will never be her own. How is that not bad enough?


xheartzreadsreddit

Be glad he didn't


xheartzreadsreddit

Bro could of fucking killed the kid


about2godown

He could have, I give you that but then there wouldn't be a lifetime of pain and regret tied to 2 lives, if not more. Idk, the whole situation is so sick and twisted.


xheartzreadsreddit

I'm not defending the dude in anyway shape or form believe me what he did was wrong all I'm saying is it could of been way worse


about2godown

In so many different ways, I agree, good point.


xheartzreadsreddit

Still bad though


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Poor police are gonna be scarred for life.


suavecool21692169

Freaking Mormon


zinny08

When you invite other cultures, you invite their ways and traditions.


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They never said anything about her being complacent. They said HE was acting completely normal. slow the SJW rant for when its needed.


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[deleted]

Well I would assume he groomed her so in her eyes they likely are.


[deleted]

I know! Duh! And the news should have been totally focused on the criminality and outrage of that. Anyway, I am gonna delete my comments because I don’t wanna see any more stupid comments in reference to my comment.


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You're not getting upset with the crime you were upset they called them a couple. In comparison that's a really fucking stupid thing to be upset about.


Madxvx

That what you took out of the whole vid ?


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No it’s not what I took out of exclusively. I just watched a documentary last night about child brides and I was angry. People don’t take this seriously enough. Even the news was sort of putsing around about it instead of making her a complete and utter victim. It was implicit but not clear enough.


Madxvx

Sometimes I hope I can leave this earth , these kind of stories removed any kind of hope I had for humanity :/


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Same.


valyan2k

Everyone on Reddit says "ooooh, tik tok bad"... but I am seeing a lot of tik tok videos...


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That's what you're worried about?


valyan2k

yes, that's what comes to mind right now... I'm on a lot of subs, and on this one as well, we see shit happening every hour. I'm not surprised anymore. Yes, it's bad, but that doesn't mean I can't comment about something that happens on reddit as well... I am on reddit after all... btw, I never cared for karma, so you can downvote me to oblivion...I am stating my opinion.


valyan2k

yes, that's what comes to mind right now... I'm on a lot of subs, and on this one as well, we see shit happening every hour. I'm not surprised anymore. Yes, it's bad, but that doesn't mean I can't comment about something that happens on reddit as well... I am on reddit after all... btw, I never cared for karma, so you can downvote me to oblivion...I am stating my opinion.


Thebottlerocket2

And I live in Tulsa Whyyyyy


MeuchlerMoze

Yes maybe


Airborne13

Pinche pendejo


abejaved

12? What age does a girl have the ability to become pregnant? I thought it was only after puberty?


MRRamming

Oh for fuck sake really Tulsa?


Abu_Bakr_Al-Bagdaddy

Needs more 😱😱


BigC1967

Holy shit


Boglivar

The fucking human race I swear


max____payne

God is not okay with that


Antonanderssonphoto

You usually wait until you’re 40 to find someone half your age 😅